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Markus_of_Hoenn May 16th, 2010 11:00 PM

When i was fresh to Pokemon i thought that the next move he learned was better, then it went to all offensive. Now I cant go without apprehending my opponent in some way. Paralyze and confuse, or sleep; I must. Then boost myself.
My Leafeon in Platinum:
-Leaf Blade to complement it's high attack stat, High critical hit ratio too ^,^
-Synthesis Restores HP
-Sword Dance Boosts attack
-Grass Whistle Puts foe to sleep(i just pray it hits)
(Holding Razor Claw for a higher critical hit ratio)

Ninja Caterpie May 16th, 2010 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus_of_Hoenn (Post 5806602)
When i was fresh to Pokemon i thought that the next move he learned was better, then it went to all offensive. Now I cant go without apprehending my opponent in some way. Paralyze and confuse, or sleep; I must. Then boost myself.
My Leafeon in Platinum:
-Leaf Blade to complement it's high attack stat, High critical hit ratio too ^,^
-Synthesis Restores HP
-Sword Dance Boosts attack
-Grass Whistle Puts foe to sleep(i just pray it hits)
(Holding Razor Claw for a higher critical hit ratio)

lolololol, only a grass move? Someone still needs to keep improving. You won't need Synthesis on your sweeping Leafeon...tbh, you don't even need Grass Whistle.

RTHookers May 17th, 2010 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Waki Tobaye (Post 5778189)
Were you one of those persons who put stat-increasing moves on their Pokémon? Or did you just put offensive attacks, thinking that stat-increasing didn't do anything?

I remember thinking that Swords Dance, Agility, Calm Mind, Haze, Focus Energy and those moves didn't do anything; so (in-game) I sold them and bought some other things. But they're really useful in Competitive Battling, Batton Pass + Sword Dance or Calm Mind or something + Suction Cups Pokémon = :D

Oh, but that was a long, long time ago; what about you? Did you make your Pokémon's movepool offensive, defensive or anything goes; or what?

All out attacks.
But I didn't really know English back then =/

Storm Parakaitz May 17th, 2010 1:35 AM

It depended on the move, for me. I used Sand-Attack and Double Team like crazy and I loved Substitute. I also used Growth and Agility. Oh, and anything that induced status I liked.

Moves I didn't use included things that lowered opponent's abilities [and for the most part, I still don't use those] and a few stat-raisers like Meditate. And I hated Bide because it took me years to figure out how it worked.

chaos11011 May 24th, 2010 4:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Waki Tobaye (Post 5792582)
In game, that strategy pretty much sucks. Why would yo spend your time making that strategy when you could be grinding?
In competitive, that strategy is pretty much ruined up, phazers and hazers are everywhere in competitve (especially in Standard) with moves like Taunt(that doesn't let you use boosting moves), Haze(Eliminates stat-changes), Whirlwind & Roar(These are the main problem, you've already [somehow] setted up your mighty 893 Attack and 754 Speed Rampardos with help from your Ninjask, and a Skarmory comes in and uses Whirlwind. Fin.
Unless, of course, you have a Suction Cups Pokémon (Octillery & Cradily); but they're not worth the pass, one is pretty frail (Octillery) and the other ones is killed by STAB Technician Bullet Punch or STAB Ice Beam; pretty common moves (Cradily).

Of course, If you're battling with your noob friend that doesn't know about pseudo-hazing and taunting, then you're lucky. I love killing my friends with things like 999 Attack and 999 Speed Magikarp or Dunsparce xD

I play competitive battling alot I know that it will get completly ruined with Hazers,Psuedo Hazers and Taunters.I dont acctually use a BP Team i just did it for the lols.And the "if your battleing a noob freind who doesn't know psuedo hazing and taunting" thats actually the point because im showing the if they had such moves they could of countered my team.

pieguy259 May 24th, 2010 5:48 PM

I'm big on attacking, not so much on the stats and defence. I don't play competitively, thankfully.

Emlam May 24th, 2010 5:49 PM

I mostly went offensive in Pokemon Red because it's all I needed, BUT I always made sure to have at least one high-HP Pokemon with Flash or similar and one at lv. 30 or higher with a reasonably-accurate Sleep move when it got to the point where I could access the legendary birds. It was the only combo that ever worked reliably for me at low levels.

Rockets Lapras May 25th, 2010 1:19 AM

I focused more on attacking, and still do for the most part. I do love me some Toxic though.

Jesh May 25th, 2010 1:32 AM

In game stats don't matter :x

The Doctor May 25th, 2010 11:52 AM

I use all Offensive moves.
THe way i see it is, the more time u try lowering his stats, the more time he is lowering your health.

Kipher May 25th, 2010 1:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Opera Ghost (Post 5828316)
I use all Offensive moves.
THe way i see it is, the more time u try lowering his stats, the more time he is lowering your health.

Not neccacarily, the sp.defense and defense contribute alot to the HP of your pokemon in terms of resistince, lets say you lower the rivals sp.defense by 4 points, if you do an attack that equals about 89 without doing those points it stays at 89, lower the by 4 and you can multiply that by .4 that equals up to 124.


At least that's how I factored my attacks back then.

Aether May 25th, 2010 1:13 PM

Yeah, I used to neglect stat increase/decrease moves. Now I know better, Swords Dance and Nasty Plot are ridiculously good.

NickofTime May 25th, 2010 2:54 PM

In game i really dont carry any move that do not do damage
potions for healing and status
X-items for stat increases
i mean a four slot moveset is precious especially in game you need all the type coverage you can get
but yeah in competitve play i am a big fan of trappers (scarfzone with hp fire= 1 shot scizor anyone?) and i use late game sweepers like crazy (cursepert and heracross)

Emlam May 25th, 2010 3:42 PM

I know "Gary" (who always gets a girl's name in my game) just keeps using Tail Whip with Squirtle in the first battle until I knock it out with Scratch. :P

Against moron in-game trainers, you might as well just beat 'em up.

TheAppleFreak May 25th, 2010 4:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoroark-Nightmare (Post 5826402)
I'm offense all the way. I think the stat-increase moves are stupid. XD
I hate swords dance and LOVE hyper beam.
XD

I entered a PC Wifi tournament a while ago. After my first win in it (single elimination... I think...), I tried attacking a Choice Scarf Vaporeon and failed horribly (I accidentally used Waterfall on it and it Trick'd the Scarf onto me). Then, after a Baton Passed Mean Look, it began a series of stat-increasing moves (Swords Dance, Nasty Plot, Gastro Acid, etc.) all chained together with Baton Pass which culminated in a Lucario sweeping my entire team. I lost 6-0.

The lesson? Never rely purely on attacking moves. Even the elemental Hyper Beams aren't good enough to take out true strategy.

Swinoob May 25th, 2010 5:19 PM

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Originally Posted by amberrelf (Post 5778232)
XD When I was little, I was all about the offensive moves.
Now I try to have at least one defensive move, or at least one that raises attack when used or something.

Same here. [Darn. my post isn't long enough. That should be enough. Darnit.]

Dr. Faustus May 27th, 2010 9:04 AM

When I was younger, I always used offensive moves, with the exception of Swords Dance. I always thought SD was cool. XD

Elise May 27th, 2010 9:28 AM

Haha, for sure when I was younger I didn't even give a second thought to stat boosting/ lowering moves and got rid of them the first chance I get! And... To be honest, in-game I usually still do that. It's hard for me to pass by heavy hitting moves, trying to see how fast I can defeat an opposing player/NPC. I guess I'm just more of an offensive pokemon trainer. :) I like to kick their butts... what can I say?

Emlam May 27th, 2010 9:49 AM

I didn't like the low-PP moves though, powerful or not. Bite and Slash were probably my faves, if they were HM's I'd have taught them to everything. :P

Kai Yamato May 27th, 2010 9:55 AM

Least these moves does something. Unlike super situational moves like Fling and Natural Gift.

I always keep at least one buff move. I prefer the ones that boosts both stats though.

beca May 27th, 2010 10:01 AM

When I was a kid, I found stat-increasing moves pointless xD
I remember the first time I played Pokemon Blue, it said something like "Charmander's attack fell". At the time, I assumed it meant that the opponent's attack had missed ~___~

Chris337 May 27th, 2010 10:17 AM

I always understood what stat changing moves did for the most part, but I was still about the offensive moves. I kept sleeping/poisoning/paralyzing moves and moves that sharply modified stats though. Today I usually have one or two of those on each pokemon.

Emlam May 27th, 2010 11:04 AM

I was so bummed out when I first realized Thunder Wave didn't do damage. It sounds so powerful. ><

Fernbutter January 11th, 2014 4:21 AM

I would always be like powermoves only, I guess I deemed it unnecessary to have stat stuff.

Sydian January 11th, 2014 8:16 AM

Please don't revive threads that are over a month old...let alone one that's almost four years old. I know 2010 was awesome and all, but still! :P

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