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ilikeluigi May 7th, 2010 11:53 PM

Gold > Ethan
 
I just curious, What is your thoughts on Game freak changing Gold's name to Ethan?

ultimatedood May 8th, 2010 12:44 AM

If you don't mind swearing (its not that bad): http://i42.tinypic.com/2w2ooba.jpg

Gold is better

Crobat May 8th, 2010 12:56 AM

ethan is better, i don't even know why they named ash: red or gary: blue, those are colors not names

Toxicroak May 8th, 2010 1:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ultimatedood (Post 5781710)
If you don't mind swearing (its not that bad): http://i42.tinypic.com/2w2ooba.jpg

Gold is better

i agree 100% with this picture

Gold is a bad ass and Ethan looks like a panzy

Swolligator May 8th, 2010 1:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Crobat (Post 5781718)
ethan is better, i don't even know why they named ash: red or gary: blue, those are colors not names

In Japan, Red and Green(Gary's real name, its not blue.) sounded like cool names to have since they were english, its quite hard to explain but also they go along with the titles of the games. It is like of instance, Kiba Inuzuka off of Naruto, his dog is called "Akamaru" which is pretty much means "Red". To english people this sounds better than calling it "Red", simply because its in a different language. Its the other way around here, instead of giving Red and Green normal names, they make them sound foreign by using Red and Green. (sorry if you dont understand, its hard to explain.) the same goes for Gold, Silver Crystal, etc.....

LethalTexture May 8th, 2010 2:08 AM

Ethan is still Gold to me, I named my character in HG as Gold. In my eyes, they're still the same character.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crobat (Post 5781718)
ethan is better, i don't even know why they named ash: red or gary: blue, those are colors not names

Following on from what the poster above me said, Ash is based on Red, the playable character from the original games, and gary is named after Blue, the name of your rival from those games. Sure, you could give your own name to yourself and Rival, but they were the official character names.

The anime was based on the games, and thus came after, and NOT the other way around. This is a basic piece of knowledge about the franchise that most people do not seem to understand. Likewise, the various mangas are based upon the games, too.

The games were the original media text for the Pokémon franchise, and it's something that you should not forget with regards to characters.

AliceBlaze May 8th, 2010 2:45 AM

I noticed that all of Golds English names suck; Ethan and Jimmy (Anime counterpart). I will always call him either Gold or Kenta (Jap anime counterpart).

Crystal-Heart May 8th, 2010 3:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Crobat (Post 5781718)
ethan is better, i don't even know why they named ash: red or gary: blue, those are colors not names

Red is a real name though, haven't you have heard of Red Skelton the comedian or Red Forman, the fictional dad on That 70's Show. Oh, and would you rather be named Red or Ashley, which is what Ash is probably short for since, despite popular belief, is a duel gender name.

Honestly, I think Gold sounds cooler, since I like color based names. Red and Crystal however, are real names that both sound good. Silver might be too, I'd have to check.

Cyndahog May 8th, 2010 3:23 AM

Ethan is just ewww..

Gold is an amazing name. Like Red.

Lati-Fan95 May 8th, 2010 3:35 AM

I don't understand why they renamed him. Gold always sounded fine and awesome to me!^^ Ethan... I somehow don't like it... Maybe that's because I grew up with Gold and not with Ethan but I still think Gold is WAY better than Ethan.

Oh, and: At least Ethan sounds better than Klarin, his german name! That was the worst thing they could do to Gold ever! Klarin somehow sounds pretty girlish, don't you think?^^ Luckily, I named my Gold Gold! xD

loliwin May 8th, 2010 3:40 AM

I dont care. You have the power of nicknaming!!! XD

Timbjerr May 8th, 2010 3:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ultimatedood (Post 5781710)
If you don't mind swearing (its not that bad): http://i42.tinypic.com/2w2ooba.jpg

Gold is better


epic. :D

It's all the same to me though. It's just a name after all, and it's not like he ever got any characterization in the game canon back in GenII. =/

Sneeze May 8th, 2010 10:13 AM

Design? Gold by a long way, Name? Ethan. Ethan is just a cool sounding name anyway imo. :P

Gary Oak FTW May 8th, 2010 10:17 AM

Ethan>Gold cause it's my name.

The Original Darkwiz787 May 8th, 2010 10:18 AM

I dont watch the Anime, I only read the Manga, so in my eyes, they all still have names like Silver, Gold, Red, Green etc.

pokemongarnet May 8th, 2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Crystal-Heart (Post 5781842)
Red is a real name though, haven't you have heard of Red Skelton the comedian or Red Forman, the fictional dad on That 70's Show. Oh, and would you rather be named Red or Ashley, which is what Ash is probably short for since, despite popular belief, is a duel gender name.

Honestly, I think Gold sounds cooler, since I like color based names. Red and Crystal however, are real names that both sound good. Silver might be too, I'd have to check.

Red is often times short for Jarrod/ Jared though.

Izanagi May 8th, 2010 10:20 AM

Gold is much better. The only two heroes that can get away with normal names is Brendan and Lucas.

Shiari Xero May 8th, 2010 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Crobat (Post 5781718)
ethan is better, i don't even know why they named ash: red or gary: blue, those are colors not names

Ok First of all, Red =/= Ash
See Spoiler for more:
Spoiler:
Red is NOT ash. Red is in the game world, which came BEFORE the anime world. The creators THEMSELVES say that Ash is based LOOSELY off of Red. Which in other words means Ash is a knock off of Red. Actually the only connection between Red and "Ash" is Pokemon Yellow. Which creators say is loosely based on the anime, infact, the only reason we have Pokemon Yellow version is because Pokemon Gold and Silver were taking so long to make, that they made Pokemon Yellow to keep people happy. So lets review
Red does not equal Ash
Green(Blue) does not equal Gary
Gold(Ethan) does not equal Jimmy (from Legend of Thunder)
and so on and so forth. All of the characters (red, green, gold, crystal, Lucas, Dawn, May, Brennan, and the rivals) have "Anime Counterparts" which are anime only characters whos design are based off the in game characters that have come first. It even says it in Bulbapedia, heres a quote from Ethans Page:
"Jimmy from the special episode The Legend of Thunder, seems to be based on Ethan in the most basic sense, much more than Ash was based off his counterpart, Red. However, like Ash and Red aren't interchangeable, neither are Jimmy and Ethan, nor Marina and Kris or anime Lyra and game Lyra."

I apologize for the rant, this kinda thing though is just a pet peeve of mine.


Now,on topic, i personally liked "Gold" better as a name, it fit the naming scheme they had going. And its one of my favorite colors :3 But in truth, and i quote from bulbapedia:
"Ethan (Japanese: ヒビキ Hibiki) is the main playable character in Pokémon Gold and Silver and is the male choice in Pokémon Crystal, Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver. In Crystal, his female counterpart is Kris, while in HeartGold and SoulSilver his female counterpart is Lyra.
He is a caring young boy who lives with his mother in New Bark Town. He had no official name in Generation II, but was unofficially known by fans as Gold (ゴールド Gold)."

So, they didnt technically change his name, as he wasnt officially named, unlike red and green from the generation before. I dont know why they didnt officially name him, but they did now, and its Ethan.

Bluerang1 May 8th, 2010 11:04 AM

I prefer Ethan. He's cooler, better name, Gold scares me. Like Dennis the Mennance. I want Ethan's outfit!

RTHookers May 8th, 2010 11:11 AM

Kris > Lyra.
Gold > Ethan
GSC > HGSS
You pretty much get the point?

DXrobots May 8th, 2010 11:28 AM

well I don't mind the name changes I think leaving them gold silver, red, green, etc. is just lazy

Jolene May 8th, 2010 11:37 AM

Ethan is the better name. You only like the name "Gold" because you're used to it.

Crobat May 8th, 2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jolene (Post 5782901)
Ethan is the better name. You only like the name "Gold" because you're used to it.

truer words havent been spoken

Quote:

Originally Posted by 雷影 イチロ (Post 5781762)


In Japan, Red and Green(Gary's real name, its not blue.) sounded like cool names to have since they were english, its quite hard to explain but also they go along with the titles of the games. It is like of instance, Kiba Inuzuka off of Naruto, his dog is called "Akamaru" which is pretty much means "Red". To english people this sounds better than calling it "Red", simply because its in a different language. Its the other way around here, instead of giving Red and Green normal names, they make them sound foreign by using Red and Green. (sorry if you dont understand, its hard to explain.) the same goes for Gold, Silver Crystal, etc.....

ええ、私は大学で日本語を習ったから、それがもうわかりましたよ。 でも、名前なら、レッドがまだバカね。 そうして、エタンは名前がすごいほうがいいよ。 日本語を知らなかったら、じゃ、すみません。

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Originally Posted by Crystal-Heart (Post 5781842)
Red is a real name though, haven't you have heard of Red Skelton the comedian or Red Forman, the fictional dad on That 70's Show. Oh, and would you rather be named Red or Ashley, which is what Ash is probably short for since, despite popular belief, is a duel gender name.

Honestly, I think Gold sounds cooler, since I like color based names. Red and Crystal however, are real names that both sound good. Silver might be too, I'd have to check.

i have a cousin named ash, short for ashraf, its an arab name.

LethalTexture May 8th, 2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sneeze (Post 5782692)
Design? Gold by a long way, Name? Ethan. Ethan is just a cool sounding name anyway imo. :P

Whenever I hear the name I just think Mission:Impossible. D:

Jack Kentnon May 8th, 2010 12:19 PM

Personally, I don't care. I prefer Gold's design a little more because he does not look like a girl. But that's as far as my consern goes, as you can name them your self.


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