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Umbreon_ May 8th, 2010 6:10 AM

Plastic Surgery
 
Do you agree to the fact that plastic surgeries makes you/someone/ proud? What do you think?

Discuss. x.x

Bluerang1 May 8th, 2010 7:37 AM

I don't know. I need to ask my Church people to make a decision whether it's right or wrong :P I want my nose fixed, nostrils are too big D: But I do think it's good for some, like on Extreme Makeover and that, it gives them the confidence they didn't have before.

Oblivíon May 8th, 2010 7:53 AM

Plastic surgery is revolting. People should just be happy with who they are and how they look.
I've nothing against Michael Jackson, but plastic surgery completely messed up his look.

OokamiShipper May 8th, 2010 8:25 AM

There are some people who really do need it (and not because they think they're ugly, people who need it because that certain flaw is giving them problems, or something like that), but all in all, I don't think plastic surgery is really necessary. Because, number 1, it's like saying you're not enough for yourself, it's like putting yourself down, number 2, it hurts, number 3, it's expensive. :/

Spinor May 8th, 2010 8:41 AM

Really, who needs plastic surgery when you've got cosmetics? :D

...People that suffer fires. I think only them are people that should think about plastic surgery. Nobody wants burn scars forever. It's pretty sad, you know. :(

Legobricks May 8th, 2010 9:01 AM

Reconstructive surgery is good, or something that's otherwise necessary for one's health, but if all one wants is per example a bigger pair of breasts then I'm not really seeing the point.

Sneeze May 8th, 2010 10:40 AM

I have no issue with it, if it's some really huge problem that's affecting a persons life, be it directly or indirectly then I have no problem, even if it is a bit vain and all about appearance, if its boosts their confidence or otherwise improves a person's life, why not?

It only really becomes a problem when people get to obsessive, decreasing the size of your ears by 3 millimetres or whatever. Even then its your body and your money do as you please, just don't expect sympathy from me when your lips look like they transplanted from a horse.

Weatherman, Kiyoshi May 8th, 2010 10:51 AM

If you can't accept your looks as is, you have low confidence in yourself. :/

But reconstructive surgery is alright. I mean, some people get messed up by things and don't want to go around with half a face. That's understandable.

Rich Boy Rob May 8th, 2010 11:57 AM

It's your body right? Why shouldn't you be allowed to make yourself look better? If you have a huge nose and want reduced, great. If you want bigger boobs, I'm happy for you (and your boy/girlfriend ;)).

Timbjerr May 8th, 2010 12:12 PM

For the people that get cosmetic surgery responsibly, it's more of a confidence thing than a vanity thing, and that's all fine and well. It's the stereotyped valley girl wannabes that do it just to be as vain as possible that irk me. >_>

SIN1488 May 8th, 2010 12:42 PM

I think if someone has some serious things like something that happened to their face during an accident, a fire, or are born that way, then plastic surgery is ok. But if someone wants to get plastic surgery because they think it will make them more "beautiful", the need to get plastic surgery from plastic explosives or something........ Okay, maybe not that extreme but it's ridiculous.

Somewhat young people don't need plastic surgery because they already look fine, and old people don't need plastic surgery because they are supposed to look gross and old, that's how you know they are wise. :D

Every one of those 60%+ plastic celebrities look so disgusting, why would they do that?

And on a similar subject, implants, don't even get me started on those.... XD

The Cynic May 8th, 2010 12:51 PM

Yes if it gives people the confidence they wouldn't have had before. Can you honestly say there isn't something about yourself you'd change if you could? It's just a shame that people place so much emphasis on looks when it comes to self-esteem. But it's a raw animal instinct we cannot fight.

Esper May 8th, 2010 9:34 PM

It's something that anyone considering it should think long and hard about, like when getting a tattoo or getting married. Obviously when you haven't thought much about it it will show. I've seen a couple of bad tattoos and bad marriages and I could tell there hadn't been as much planning as there should have been. Still, it's a personal choice.

People who look down on others for getting plastic surgery without knowing the reasons they get it are just as vain as their image of the people they're criticizing.

Also, think a moment of people who are transgendered before making sweeping comments.

RuRuBell May 8th, 2010 9:37 PM

I don't see a problem with it. It's their body. If it makes them feel good, that's great for them. For some people, confidence comes naturally. Others need to have fake boobs to feel good. Whatever works for them.

Honestly, I don't think it's worth the money, though.

Aureol May 8th, 2010 9:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Weatherman, Kiyoshi (Post 5782794)
If you can't accept your looks as is, you have low confidence in yourself. :/

But reconstructive surgery is alright. I mean, some people get messed up by things and don't want to go around with half a face. That's understandable.

I agree completely. I'm pretty put off by people who take plastic surgery just because they thought they didn't look good in the first place (then again, I'm not shallow, so others might care about looks more), but it's pretty unrealistic to expect someone to go through life with half your chest or something.

Amaruuk May 9th, 2010 5:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OokamiShipper (Post 5782395)
There are some people who really do need it (and not because they think they're ugly, people who need it because that certain flaw is giving them problems, or something like that), but all in all, I don't think plastic surgery is really necessary. Because, number 1, it's like saying you're not enough for yourself, it's like putting yourself down, number 2, it hurts, number 3, it's expensive. :/

I agree 100%.

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Originally Posted by AdvancedK47 (Post 5782435)
Really, who needs plastic surgery when you've got cosmetics? :D

Frankly I think cosmetics are pretty much the same thing in my book, minus the pain and the expense (although it's still a waste of money). Really it's the same with any other "give us your money and we'll make you 'look better'" service like tanning salons. Bunch of extraneous BS if you ask me. Why don't more people just be their natural selves?

Druid May 9th, 2010 3:48 PM

It's not about how someone looks, it's about who they are. Of course, that doesn't work for everyone. A lot of people judge others on how they look, and if someone doesn't like the way they're being judged and bought plastic surgery I'm happy that they found confidence somewhere else. In my opinion, it doesn't make someone "proud" at all, or at least not "proud" in the definition you meant. I wouldn't get it myself, but that's because I agree with the first sentence. XP

On the subject of reconstructive surgery, I actually think it should be provided by most insurance and health care plans. Again, though, as long as the damage isn't too severe, I'd live my life with a scar.

Saltare. May 9th, 2010 4:32 PM

I agree with getting plastic surgery because of a facial deoformity or something like that.

But I really don't get why you need to get plastic surgery to make someone else happy...

Yusshin May 9th, 2010 6:57 PM

Only if something bad happened, like a full-face burn or something. Otherwise, it's revolting, disgusting, and abnormal. Fake boobs, noses, etc. is just showing that you're self-conscious, and overall, ridiculous and stupid.

^ That's what I think.

Melody May 9th, 2010 7:22 PM

I agree with Yu-chan.

Only people who are super self-conscious elect to have this kind of surgery. Now if it's a serious deformity, then it's perfectly fine...otherwise, it should be strongly discouraged.

I'm not against breast reduction, but breast enhancements ought to be banned. x3

Tinhead Bruce May 9th, 2010 7:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RuRuBell (Post 5784747)
I don't see a problem with it. It's their body. If it makes them feel good, that's great for them. For some people, confidence comes naturally. Others need to have fake boobs to feel good. Whatever works for them.

I agree. It's their money, and it's their problem if they don't like the result. It's not my responsibility to care if they feel bad about their looks, and it's not my job to feel sorry for them if something goes awry. If you really care about how someone else looks, someone who you may not be interacting with day to day, or even if you are, someone other than maybe your spouse, you need to get over yourself. Worry about yourself (I would say worry about yourself first, but frankly it's not your job to worry about others' looks period). Maybe I'm just tired of people actually caring about things that they have no right to care about.

Guillermo May 9th, 2010 8:53 PM

Yeah, I really see no problem with plastic surgery. Who are we to judge someone else for doing something to their body? It doesn't affect us in any way at all. If you want it to make yourself look prettier, I really don't see the point in that to begin with, though. I mean, we're all going to grow old and decay at some point, so why delay the inevitable?

Cherrim May 10th, 2010 6:21 AM

I'm actually very surprised at the amount of comments saying "it's their money, they can do what they want with it [and I won't judge]". I expected to be in the vast minority with my post. :|

But anyway, I don't have a strong opinion on plastic surgery. I think I used to but now I don't see it as any different than buying a ton of makeup to cover areas that "need improvement". If someone has the money and will to "fix" something permanently, go for it. :/ It's still money being spent on the economy. And honestly? Not everyone who gets plastic surgery does it frivolously.

And to all those saying "people should feel good in their natural bodies because it's wrong to change that". Yeah, well, they don't. If they did feel good, they wouldn't get plastic surgery. :/ I do feel that other options should be explored first buuuut if it's just the one thing, they have the means to do it, and it fixes some huge self-esteem issue, I don't personally have a problem. It's their life, their body, and their money and their decision to make. I wouldn't judge someone for deciding to eat at McDonald's over going to a health food store. :/ May not be physically best for them in the end but it's their decision and it honestly has nothing to do with me.

(Of course, things like breast reduction or facial reconstruction for those who need it for obvious medical reasons goes without saying--that should be fine and without social stigma no matter what. o_O)

Amaruuk May 10th, 2010 8:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightning (Post 5788899)
And to all those saying "people should feel good in their natural bodies because it's wrong to change that". Yeah, well, they don't.

I just want to point out that my earlier statement about people 'being their natural selves' wasn't meant as 'it's wrong to change it and no one should ever do that'. People will do what people will do, but I'm simply of the opinion that all that stuff is kinda silly.

There's a difference between simply disagreeing with something and thinking of it as something that's 'wrong' or 'unacceptable'.

Cherrim May 10th, 2010 8:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kinarii (Post 5789084)
I just want to point out that my earlier statement about people 'being their natural selves' wasn't meant as 'it's wrong to change it and no one should ever do that'. People will do what people will do, but I'm simply of the opinion that all that stuff is kinda silly.

There's a difference between simply disagreeing with something and thinking of it as something that's 'wrong' or 'unacceptable'.

Ah, that part wasn't directed at you (or anyone specifically). D: (Though I can see how it seems it might've been.) I actually liked your post because you stuck by your opinion that altering the body shouldn't be done rather than (imo, hypocritcally) saying that it's okay to temporarily alter your looks with makeup but it's bad to do permanent changes. :|

I'm kind of pointing my reply more toward the people who outright say that others who have plastic surgery are stupid/silly. I'm fine with those who merely disagree but judging/condemning others for their personal choices (relating to THEIR body/money?)... that ticks me off. :/ What they do can be silly (in one's opinion) but that doesn't outright mean that they ARE silly or that their reasons for doing it are entirely superficial, vapid, or stupid. And that's the vibe I get from a lot of people when this sort of thing comes up.


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