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Tips / Gratuities
All right. This is from my current job. We aren't allowed to accept tips; if we do, we need to put them in a cup where all of the tip "profits" go straight to Perry, the off-site boss.
I was under the impression tips are offered to the employee for good service, not as an add-on to the price of the product. Hrm. I don't mind if we put it in the cup and split it between all 15 employees, but to actually be denied access and payment by the tips we receive is retarded. Why should the employer, who does nothing, receive money that is given to employees freely for providing good service? He didn't earn that money; we did. All he does is sit in a real estate office and orders the product. S'all. Why should he earn 100% of the tips the employees make? This happened to my mother in a clothing store, too. The employer took 1/2 of the tips, didn't work at all inside the store itself, and split the other 50% among all employees. They weren't lousy tips, either. It would sometimes rack up to 800$ in one day. Why does the employer deserve 400$ for doing nothing? He/she didn't earn that money. Should employers who do not actually work on-location have rights to any of the tips given freely by customers to employees? |
This is pretty bad if you ask me, makes you wonder how many other places that accept tips do the same tricks, makes you think twice about actually giving them if they aren't directly going into the waiters pocket like they should.
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Well you might want to quickly point that out to your customers so that their goodwill isn't misplaced.
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If there is a no-tip policy, it should be indicated in some manner to customers. If they insist of giving you a tip, I can't fathom why your boss would be entitled to it.
Splitting the tips wouldn't be uncommon, but I think sending it off to someone else is. |
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I think that your boss has the right to. You are always free to go find another job.
Ok, technical stuff aside, this is idiotic. Like you said, customers tip to reward the employee, not the business. I hate McDonald's, but if I happen to really like the service one employee gave to me, I certainly don't want to reward McDonald's, whom I loathe, for the excellence of one person. I want to make it better for that person. This is just another idiotic way to score an extra buck >_< |
Thats sad...
He didn't work for it. Like you said, he sits in a real estate office. He doesn't pay you normal wage, and saves $1/hr per employee. That should be enough money, not to mention that he gets to sit all the time... one suggestion to your boss: LET YOUR EMPLOYEES HAVE THEIR TIPS. YOU ARE BEING GREEDY. |
My last job homogenized the tips as well, which was both a good and a bad thing.
It was good because the place was open during the winter, and as an ice cream parlor in the Northeast, it's hard to tell whether it would be a blizzard one day or nice out the next. If somebody happened to only work an hour or two and get a ton of customers one day, but somebody had to work the next day for ~7 hours with only one or two customers, they would both get the same added on to the pay check. It was bad because I had a few coworkers that, on double shifts, refused to do the bulk of the work. They didn't want to make shakes, work on cakes, clean anything, and in some cases didn't want to make sundaes, which was basically the entire job. So it sucked for the person doing all of the work to get close to $80 in tips on a long day to see that split up and given to the person that sat on their butt and texted during their entire shift. As for the original question though, I think it's something that varies for each job. One of my previous summer jobs was to get up at 7 AM and drive a van full of pressure pots and coffee goods to a farmer's market, where I set everything up and sat in the sun until noon. That same company did large-scale fairs as well, which required a larger team of people and a lot of work from everybody. If my "boss"(es) wanted to hold on to the tips, I wouldn't object. They were the ones that contacted the roasters, handled production, showed people how to do everything, and did most of the heavy lifting from point A to point B. So, while they weren't right there on location with me during the summer, they still did the bulk of the work, and deserve part of the profits. It still varies with whatever the job is, though. |
I serve ice cream. The job entails:
- Serving ice cream - Carrying 10lb tubs of ice cream - Cleaning the entire place with vinegar + water - Sweeping & mopping - Sweeping the outside and dusting down cobwebs from the unit - Serving floats / milkshakes - Washing dishes - Clean the freezers, hot dog machine, and fridge - Restock pop and water - Serve hot dogs - Writing down everything that we're out of / almost out of - Arriving 10min beforehand to set everything up, clean up, mop, count money, etc. - Staying approximately 20min after work, non-paid, to close down - Staying overtime on eratic shifts which he changes at the last minute He trains the employees for two hours each (or, one weekend from 09:00-17:00). He orders what we've written down that we need and he delivers it. That's all he does. He doesn't help serve ice cream, carry the 10lb tubs, etc. He just trains for one weekend and delivers random things, while making eratic shifts (some weeks, it's 3h/day. Others, it's 8h one day, 8h another, etc. He also cancels shifts and gives them to other people for no apparent reason :|) Adults 18+ are paid 10.25$/h in Ontario. Students under 18 who work less than 28h/week are paid 9.60$/h. All tips go to the guy who only visits to deliver the stock he needs to make his initial cash. If he actually did some of the work, I'd understand; he'd be an "employee" then. He doesn't do any of the work, though. He literally sits in an office all day, or shows off houses - things that aren't connected to the tips earned at the beach-side ice cream parlour at all. I just think he's a douche. |
Thats crazy....changing overtime shifts..at the last minunte!?!
He sounds like a douche. :cer_nod: |
Like I never had a job, but to me splitting tips is a little odd. If some tips YOU they tip YOU not the other employees so I really think splitting tips is a horrible idea.
Your situation adds to the concept further. Why should someone who doesn't work get part of the tips? No, better yet, why is he still at the job and still getting paid like all the other employees who work themselves to the bone. That's highly unfair. He doesn't deserve those tips, he doesn't deserve the money he makes period. Laziness amounts to a pay of nothing in my book. |
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I'd post a picture of my boss, since he's a real estate agent and has a website, but I don't feel like it XD That'd be too mean, showing his crooked smile to everyone. |
You guys split tips? That must suck in Montreal.
I have never heard that even happen here in Michigan. |
I'm in Ontario atm.
And it happens all across Canada where tips can be split amongst all employees. Tim Hortons does it, among other fast-food restaurants. It probably happens in Montreal, too, but people over there riot about their worker rights all of the time so employers don't get away with it. In Ontario, we're laid-back, so we get trampled on a bit lol |
When asked for tips, I usually give some lame piece of advice.
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We're talking about people giving tips for good service without being asked, and then your boss (who does nothing on-location) takes all of that earned tip money from you. A bit different. |
Seriously, I have never heard of splitting tips before. Yes, there would be a cup near the cashier, but wow. Maybe get a different waitressing job at a place where there ARE separate tips for waitresses if it exists in Canada? Or even get an internship if you know what career you want (which is what I'm doing now).
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In the last year of high school.
Also, it's technically not "waitressing." It's customer service. There's no sit-down place or anything; it's kinda like an ice cream chip truck, but it's a really small building. Dunno if I explained that right. Anyway, I'm not going to leave since it took me nine months to get this job (bad boss or not), but I have emailed him and expressed my concern about it. Rather than saying "U STOLE MY TIPZ J00 BAD BOSS!" I said "I'm curious where that money goes." >> And a lot of places are tips-per-person; some are split tips, and others are the crappy Employer50%/100% and the rest split amongst employees. There's just no one hiring so :| |
Nine months? That's a long time. Maybe find a tips-per-person job to go along with it during the summer?
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The problem is my employer has really eratic shifts. It's not Monday-Wednesday 10-16:00. It's random every week, so I can't find another stable job to go with.
Not to mention, I'll be doing 25h/week volunteer service to earn school credits over the summer (catching up on a year missed.) Not much I can do lol I'm handing out resumes to other places, though. |
Ew, I hate random schedules. At least mine is normal, with my boss occasionally needing me for extra hours (again, it's an internship, but I'm getting six college credits for it and there's a decent chance that I'll be able to work part-time there).
Good luck with those volunteer weeks, haha. |
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We're not supposed to keep tips, but nobody listens.
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