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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 5978135)
All this is amazing. the guy in the video came with so much proof, that you would have to have gotten out of the mental institution to denie this.

Yeah that is true, the bridge proves it :P

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5977973)
Don't worry I won't gloat for being right :D
Yeah that pigeon does look a lot like the blue one we saw!

Isn't that exactly what you're doing right now?

NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING IS CONFIRMED.
DO NOT STATE SPECULATION AS A FACT.


Can you guys maybe tell what my pet peeve is?
Yes, with the Sky Arrow Bridge resembling Nanpu? bridge, Shanghai has a lot going for it, and yes, I do personally think that it has a high chance of hosting the Isshu region. However, it may not. It. is. not. con. firmed. Honestly, when is it going to get into your heads that you are not correct if the information hasn't been released?

Also, the pokemon that live in the region don't support its origins at all. Are beavers, giraffes, elephants, scorpions, and armadillos native to Japan? No, they aren't. We have a bald eagle in Isshu. For those who say that doesn't mean it's New York, well, your pigeon doesn't mean it's Shanghai. Again, say it with me, this is all speculation, and not fact. It is not fact. Don't treat it like fact. Don't state it as fact.

Besides, if that blue bird is a Mamepoto evolution, to me that seems like the perfect link between Mamepoto and Woogoru.

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978179)

Yeah that is true, the bridge proves it :P

You just love to fill me with murderous rage, don't you?

that's a joke, by the way...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978259)
Isn't that exactly what you're doing right now?

NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING IS CONFIRMED.
DO NOT STATE SPECULATION AS A FACT.


Can you guys maybe tell what my pet peeve is?
Yes, with the Sky Arrow Bridge resembling Nanpu? bridge, Shanghai has a lot going for it, and yes, I do personally think that it has a high chance of hosting the Isshu region. However, it may not. It. is. not. con. firmed. Honestly, when is it going to get into your heads that you are not correct if the information hasn't been released?

Also, the pokemon that live in the region don't support its origins at all. Are beavers, giraffes, elephants, scorpions, and armadillos native to Japan? No, they aren't. We have a bald eagle in Isshu. For those who say that doesn't mean it's New York, well, your pigeon doesn't mean it's Shanghai. Again, say it with me, this is all speculation, and not fact. It is not fact. Don't treat it like fact. Don't state it as fact.

Besides, if that blue bird is a Mamepoto evolution, to me that seems like the perfect link between Mamepoto and Woogoru.

No I'm not gloating, I can gloat a lot more than that...
Also no one has actually confirmed the other 4 regions either being based in Japan, it's only a fan theory that is very convincing, more convincing than some scientific theories in my eyes :P

dieter57 July 17th, 2010 12:23 PM

i still think it's NEW YORK CITY!
the city so nice, they named it twice.
but it really could be either or.
i mean pigeon pokemon? along side a bald eagle pokemon?
it screams red, white and blue!
and central park is like, right there. (central park=pal park? i hope not)

i'm sticking with it until game freak says otherwise.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:24 PM

Well GF never tells us what the regions are based on :P

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978277)
No I'm not gloating, I can gloat a lot more than that...
Also no one has actually confirmed the other 4 regions either being based in Japan, it's only a fan theory that is very convincing, more convincing than some scientific theories in my eyes :P

Considering you haven't played the game, you don't know any of the dialog, you haven't seen all the characters, or places yet, you have absolutely NO IDEA. We haven't seen any of the culture. No, you can't state it as fact, because you've only seen 8% of the game anyway.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978300)
Considering you haven't played the game, you don't know any of the dialog, you haven't seen all the characters, or places yet, you have absolutely NO IDEA. We haven't seen any of the culture. No, you can't state it as fact, because you've only seen 8% of the game anyway.

Yeah that's true, I'm only basing it on the Geography...

dieter57 July 17th, 2010 12:33 PM

in all complete honesty.................i dont care where it's located.
as long as it's fun to play, and has a bunch of cool features, im good.

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978306)

Yeah that's true, I'm only basing it on the Geography...

And it's not just you. It's countless people over countless threads over countless different topics. The way I was taught in school was that you needed solid proof is you're going to say something. So when that doesn't happen, I get really pissed off. I try really hard to make my point and have solid evidence to back it up, and when others just throw around statements willy-nilly (wow, who says that? I swear I am the oldest 15 year old alive... >.>) I just get frustrated.
Besides, I like to see respect and kindness in these threads and "NO YOU'RE WRONG AND I'M RIGHT" just isn't very respectful.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978325)
And it's not just you. It's countless people over countless threads over countless different topics. The way I was taught in school was that you needed solid proof is you're going to say something. So when that doesn't happen, I get really pissed off. I try really hard to make my point and have solid evidence to back it up, and when others just throw around statements willy-nilly (wow, who says that? I swear I am the oldest 15 year old alive... >.>) I just get frustrated.
Besides, I like to see respect and kindness in these threads and "NO YOU'RE WRONG AND I'M RIGHT" just isn't very respectful.

Yeah I don't tell people that they were wrong directly as that's mean :(.
Well the other regions use Geography as well, though I do want to see more proof to back up the Shanghai theory and more proof from the NYC side other than pokemon origins :)

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978362)

Yeah I don't tell people that they were wrong directly as that's mean :(.
Well the other regions use Geography as well, though I do want to see more proof to back up the Shanghai theory and more proof from the NYC side other than pokemon origins :)

Well by stating "I'm right" it's the exact same as saying "you're wrong".
Also, as I said in the route thread, dialog could change this. What if someone were to refer to Hiun as "the big apple"? That changes things. Also, it's harder to determine this time around because all the previous regions were in Japan. They only needed to look to Japan to find the region. This time, we have the other 98% of the world in question.

Zackraa July 17th, 2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 5977432)
But then Pigeons in China:
http://silentlistening.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/takeoff.jpg

Looks like that Mamepato evo we saw, the Blue thing.

and here is a chinese eagle
http://i32.*.com/2nm1jp.jpg
looks just like Wooguru

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:58 PM

I hope Isshu has many fun places to go to, I am interested in the water fall by the mountain:)

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 2:13 PM

Isshu is based of Nigeria :laugh:No but seriously, it has a Delta with two rivers and a huge long Bridge and desert... It uses the track rail system. One's right outside my house there :cheeky:

Anyway, Isshu can't just be based on one City, it should be a country... Oh wait, it's the cities/towns themselves that are based on different places.

The thing is, one person said New York, everyone agrees and then it sticks. When the possibility that it's Shanghai comes up, it's hard to adjust o that. Personally, I want it to be Shanghai because Americans will gloat bad and that won't be as expected as New York would be. Though, the Protagonists point to New York, Cheren and Beru point to Asia (Shanghai).

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 3:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 5978425)
Isshu is based of Nigeria :laugh:No but seriously, it has a Delta with two rivers and a huge long Bridge and desert... It uses the track rail system. One's right outside my house there :cheeky:

Anyway, Isshu can't just be based on one City, it should be a country... Oh wait, it's the cities/towns themselves that are based on different places.

The thing is, one person said New York, everyone agrees and then it sticks. When the possibility that it's Shanghai comes up, it's hard to adjust o that. Personally, I want it to be Shanghai because Americans will gloat bad and that won't be as expected as New York would be. Though, the Protagonists point to New York, Cheren and Beru point to Asia (Shanghai).

Nigeria, for reals show us a map of where :P
I don't see how the characters point to NY or Shanghai is it their clothing? Or looks?

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 3:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978560)

Nigeria, for reals show us a map of where :P
I don't see how the characters point to NY or Shanghai is it their clothing? Or looks?

Black and White look like American kids, maybe just White. Cheren definitely has an Asian feel to him, so does Beru. N also. And Prof. As Assistant. Prof. A does look American though.

EDIT:
http://www.wordtravels.com/images/map/Nigeria_map.jpg
That's the whole country, Nigeria xD

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 3:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 5978568)
Black and White look like American kids, maybe just White. Cheren definitely has an Asian feel to him, so does Beru. N also. And Prof. As Assistant. Prof. A does look American though.

EDIT:
http://www.wordtravels.com/images/map/Nigeria_map.jpg
That's the whole country, Nigeria xD

Oh I found the delta that could be Isshu :P
Really? they don't look any more American than Red,Crystal/Lyra, Brendan or Dawn to me:\

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 3:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978582)
Oh I found the delta that could be Isshu :P
Really? they don't look any more American than Red,Crystal/Lyra, Brendan or Dawn to me:\

Nah, they all looked Asian, yeah, all of them, to me. :\

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 5978596)
Nah, they all looked Asian, yeah, all of them, to me. :\

Huh, I found Red the most "American" out of all the characters as of yet:\

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978673)
Huh, I found Red the most "American" out of all the characters as of yet:\

Oh yeah, him. And Gold I guess. But not Ethan.. oh I dunno xD

Dawn, Leaf, May, Brendan, Lucas, White, Cheren - All seem very Asian to me.

Ninja Caterpie July 17th, 2010 4:24 PM

Oh come on? Was my whole THIS LOOKS LIKE SYDNEY idea completely ignored?

IT HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE SYDNEY AS IT DOES TO BE NEW YORK OR AMERICA OR WHEREVER ELSE ;-; SYDNEY HAS THE RIGHT TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH NO OTHER AREA STATED HAS SO FAR.

Silver25 July 17th, 2010 4:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5978826)
Oh come on? Was my whole THIS LOOKS LIKE SYDNEY idea completely ignored?

IT HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE SYDNEY AS IT DOES TO BE NEW YORK OR AMERICA OR WHEREVER ELSE ;-; SYDNEY HAS THE RIGHT TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH NO OTHER AREA STATED HAS SO FAR.

Dude chill out. No need to get frustrated over this stuff. Anyways, how does Sydney have the right topography? I just looked thorough Google Earth and I disagree.

I will say that now Shanghai is on MY list of possible areas Isshu is based off of. (U.S, Shanghai, Hiroshima area) But then again we'll just need to wait and see.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 4:52 PM

The Hiroshima area is close to Johto and it Japan though (makes confused face)

Silver25 July 17th, 2010 4:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978884)
The Hiroshima area is close to Johto and it Japan though (makes confused face)

I posted some information on it a few pages back. Take a look at it.

Yeah it is part of Japan but like many have said on here we don't know how all the regions are placed in the pokemon world. Isshu could be based off of it and be placed away from the other regions, we just don't know...

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 5:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zackraa (Post 5978390)
and here is a chinese eagle
http://i32.*.com/2nm1jp.jpg
looks just like Wooguru

It really doesn't. Wooguru has an Indian headdress. Wooguru has white feathers on it's face and some on it's head, supporting bald eagle theory. I really don't see how one can deny that.

MistahDude July 17th, 2010 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978991)
It really doesn't. Wooguru has an Indian headdress. Wooguru has white feathers on it's face and some on it's head, supporting bald eagle theory. I really don't see how one can deny that.

No one calls Indians by that anymore, their proper name is Native American. Non Americans might get confused if you say Indian.

And Wooguru is obviously a bald eagle as you said.

Ho-Oh July 17th, 2010 6:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978386)
Also, as I said in the route thread, dialog could change this. What if someone were to refer to Hiun as "the big apple"? That changes things.

I'm not sure whether that's likely, since Pokemon seems to be more...subtle, rather than anything.

orange discontent July 17th, 2010 6:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 5979118)

I'm not sure whether that's likely, since Pokemon seems to be more...subtle, rather than anything.

Perhaps they will refer to Hiun City as "The Big Orange"?

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Originally Posted by [B
Ninja Caterpie[/B]]Oh come on? Was my whole THIS LOOKS LIKE SYDNEY idea completely ignored?

IT HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE SYDNEY AS IT DOES TO BE NEW YORK OR AMERICA OR WHEREVER ELSE ;-; SYDNEY HAS THE RIGHT TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH NO OTHER AREA STATED HAS SO FAR.

Because Australia's lame :P Isshu is clearly Nunavut. Don't push your luck.

Ho-Oh July 17th, 2010 6:26 PM

...Surprisingly that's what I thought. XD;

Though I don't think the city in-game looks like an orange which could confuse children D:

Heart's Soul July 17th, 2010 6:54 PM

Nunavut... and how is it high-tech?

Ninja Caterpie July 17th, 2010 8:12 PM

Image proof then.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/351/sydney.png

As you can see by the picture I've just posted, there are two main rivers, and, get this, look at the stuff at the top, left and right sides of the image. MOUNTAINS. Closer to Isshu than New York City, I think. Also, you might notice there's a funny blue splot thing in the middle of the map. That's Prospect Reservoir, in the exact same place as Pokeball Lake in Isshu. I'll admit, the shape of the area between the Parramatta and Georges Rivers is shaped a bit more like a hammer than a rectangle, but the area's shape is always altered when turned into a Pokemon region.

So, how's it with the evidence for Sydney = Isshu? New York has the shape, Shanghai has the city size and landmarks, Sydney has the topography. I've absolutely no idea where that Nunavut argument came from.

I was only kidding around at first, when I said Sydney, but now, I'm quite serious. You could say that I've been convinced by my own evidence.

So, how many is that now? New York, Shanghai, Hiroshima, Sydney, Nunavat.

Myles July 17th, 2010 8:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5979314)
Image proof then.



As you can see by the picture I've just posted, there are two main rivers, and, get this, look at the stuff at the top, left and right sides of the image. MOUNTAINS. Closer to Isshu than New York City, I think. Also, you might notice there's a funny blue splot thing in the middle of the map. That's Prospect Reservoir, in the exact same place as Pokeball Lake in Isshu. I'll admit, the shape of the area between the Parramatta and Georges Rivers is shaped a bit more like a hammer than a rectangle, but the area's shape is always altered when turned into a Pokemon region.

So, how's it with the evidence for Sydney = Isshu? New York has the shape, Shanghai has the city size and landmarks, Sydney has the topography. I've absolutely no idea where that Nunavut argument came from.

I was only kidding around at first, when I said Sydney, but now, I'm quite serious. You could say that I've been convinced by my own evidence.

So, how many is that now? New York, Shanghai, Hiroshima, Sydney, Nunavat.

I think you're just joking, but anyway: Sydney isn't built up as much as Huin City. And I can't even see what part of that map you're talking about...

Ninja Caterpie July 17th, 2010 9:04 PM

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8971/sydneys.png

Mountains are circled in red, Prospect Reservoir in yellow, rivers in green.

Esper July 17th, 2010 9:24 PM

I'm not sure what all the fuss about that bridge in Shanghai is. Lots of bridges have spiral ends, like this one:


I admit I thought Isshu was based on NYC when I first saw it because Hiun City is placed right where the big skyscrapers would be and the similar shapes. It can see how it could be based on Shanghai, though the map looks a bit like both. The only thing that gets me is that in terms of geography the last two regions (Hoenn and Sinnoh) don't just resemble the places they're based on, they're close to identical. Shanghai is on a triangular piece of land and I don't have any reason to think that the game creators are going to pick this moment to so drastically change the shape of the real-world place that's the basis for this region. They might, but it would be a break from what they've done in the past.

Silver25 July 24th, 2010 5:48 PM

I just wanted to point out that a "possible" Isshu = US hint is the Liberty Ticket that will be obtained through Wi-Fi in order to obtain the new legendary Victini on Black and White. I'm not saying anything major, it could just be a subtle hint though.

dieter57 July 24th, 2010 6:16 PM

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for all the non believers out there

isshu has two small islands to the bottom left of the screen and several others to the bottom right.

in the new york picture there are two islands to the left and liberty island to the right.

it's not an exact match but hey, neither are the rest of the regions.
plus the new liberty ticket event was just announced.
liberty ticket=boat ride to liberty island????

now does shanghai have islands in the same location?
no, i didn't think so.

Zet July 24th, 2010 6:19 PM

Maybe Isshu is based on both NYC and Shanghai, that possibility hasn't been ruled out.

Swolligator July 24th, 2010 6:21 PM

On the liberty ticket, there is a picture of a lighthouse. although i dont care where it is, it could lead to "Liberty Island", another hint at NYC.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 24th, 2010 6:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 雷影 イチロ (Post 6000369)
On the liberty ticket, there is a picture of a lighthouse. although i dont care where it is, it could lead to "Liberty Island", another hint at NYC.

yeah it's a hint for NYC :)...

Swolligator July 24th, 2010 6:27 PM

Bikutini is shown using the peace sign (two fingers in the shape of a 'V'), V was broadcast in morse code from the liberty statue on D-Day and at the end of WW2. - it is a big coincidence.
but note also that the peace sign is a common gesture in Japan.

dieter57 July 24th, 2010 6:31 PM

i think it's just a coincidence. pokemon, is after all, Japanese. so i just thinkthe 'V' with his ears is just a coincidence. besides, lots of pkemon have three spikes on the top of their heads.
does that mean pokemon is under the study of wumbology?
(recently saw spongebob)

rocky505 July 24th, 2010 6:31 PM

When was there Hippie's in Japan?

Zet July 25th, 2010 5:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rocky505 (Post 6000413)
When was there Hippie's in Japan?

Clearly none, because hippies only live in America.

orange discontent July 25th, 2010 8:14 AM

Since when where there hippies in BW?

Calder July 25th, 2010 9:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5979400)


Mountains are circled in red, Prospect Reservoir in yellow, rivers in green.

Oh I see IT MUST BE SYNDEY NOW LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

It looks almost nothing like that the Mountains look small, no islands nearby, rivers too close together and the only thing that matches is the lake thing shaped like a circle...

DarKnighT_0_9 July 25th, 2010 11:30 AM

I didn't read all 19 pages but I don't think anyone has said this yet. After Victini was revealed yesterday I got to thinking. The item you need in order to get him/her is called the "Liberty Ticket" and liberty, as far as I know, is really only associated with the United States. More so than it is with any other real life place anyway. Also New York city has the original Statue of Liberty. I know there are others around the world but New York has the biggest and the original one. I say this is one more point for those who think it is New York/United States.

Calder July 25th, 2010 1:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DarKnighT_0_9 (Post 6002259)
I didn't read all 19 pages but I don't think anyone has said this yet. After Victini was revealed yesterday I got to thinking. The item you need in order to get him/her is called the "Liberty Ticket" and liberty, as far as I know, is really only associated with the United States. More so than it is with any other real life place anyway. Also New York city has the original Statue of Liberty. I know there are others around the world but New York has the biggest and the original one. I say this is one more point for those who think it is New York/United States.

As I said before... We mentioned this already <.<

latios123 July 26th, 2010 9:17 AM

i hope the battle frontier is there again. it was fun in the previous games!

dieter57 July 26th, 2010 11:59 AM

new generation means:
new gyms/ gym leaders
new elite four
new champion
and new battle frontier/ frontier brains.

but the battle tower will still be there but it will just have a new brain.

MistahDude July 30th, 2010 2:41 AM

Isshu Region Map Revealed
 
The Isshu map was shown during the July 30th Oha Suta Trailer:


It shows the Isshu map with 14 Towns or other major landmarks and 19 small green dots indicating other smaller areas.

MistahDude July 30th, 2010 2:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 6017873)
The region looks kinda small to be honest. D:

I guess I need to emphasize the "19 green dots indicating other small areas". This region is actually huge if you keep the small areas in mind.

Haza July 30th, 2010 2:53 AM

umm yeah its huge... can't wait to embark on a completely new Pokemon journey...

MistahDude July 30th, 2010 3:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6017886)
umm yeah its huge... can't wait to embark on a completely new Pokemon journey...

It might actually be just like the Giratina route. Until you get on the route it is hidden on your map. The actual paths to the green dots arent shown until you take them!

Either that or they want you to explore more.

Pokestick, good times. July 30th, 2010 3:16 AM

I thought it looked quite weird at first, actually.
The art looked quite.. plastic almost, and it also looked like there wouldn't be much to see there, just a few towns and things placed in an unnatural circle.

I look forward to this now, though :3
As long as the graphics stays as good as it hints. :P

Zet July 30th, 2010 3:22 AM

When I first saw that image, I thought it was fake, but at a second glance, the black taskbar with the buttons doesn't really fit in well and I wonder if those arrows means to navigate from town to town or.... different areas of Isshu.

Ninja Caterpie July 30th, 2010 4:44 AM

I'm sorry, but the first thing I thought of when I saw that was "HAH! New York's right landmass thing isn't so thin! Shanghai's, however..." and then I realised that was already on the map we had before. This argument is getting to my head.

But it looks cool. (b'-')b

loliwin July 30th, 2010 5:00 AM

Looks like a worm holding a diamond.. :O
or its just my imagination lol

GFA July 30th, 2010 6:51 AM

You know, it doesnt really look like anything? I was thinking it could be moddled after France because of Jaun and Fatina, but France lacks a desert ...

Zackraa July 30th, 2010 7:06 AM

I was hoping for shanghai

but after seeing the liberty ticket I could go either way then I saw the footballer now its new york without a doubt no other country in the world wears that gear for sports

I are sad faced its not shanghai

RedFan July 30th, 2010 8:11 AM

i dont know but i could be new york

Yams July 30th, 2010 1:56 PM

I say the subway further helps in making it like New York. Also there one of the screen shots looks similar to Grand Central Station.

orange discontent July 30th, 2010 2:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 6017867)
The Isshu map was shown during the July 30th Oha Suta Trailer:


It shows the Isshu map with 14 Towns or other major landmarks and 19 small green dots indicating other smaller areas.

I thought that was the High Link map since the character sprite isn't one of the PCs.

dragon0fangz July 30th, 2010 3:36 PM

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Originally Posted by orange discontent (Post 6019787)
I thought that was the High Link map since the character sprite isn't one of the PCs.

:O you are an genius.

Also, they mentioned once, high link is only available in the upper part of isshu.
which means...
MORE BELOW?!

Swolligator July 30th, 2010 4:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dragon0fangz (Post 6020034)


:O you are an genius.

Also, they mentioned once, high link is only available in the upper part of isshu.
which means...
MORE BELOW?!

there is nothing below isshu, just water cause the starting town is the bottom most big dot. also the up arrow thing is lighter than the down arrow, is there more to the north of Isshu?

MistahDude July 31st, 2010 4:46 AM

- America is the only country that plays American Football, thus the gear we wear for this sport is only here in America.

- Game Freak picked now to make an American Pokemon. Wooguru/Wargle is Red, White, and Blue and is a Bald Eagle. Both are symbols of America. He is also wearing a Native American Headdress, which points to the heritage of the country of America.

- Victini's name is a cross between Tini and Victory. He is found by using the Liberty Ticket. He is also showing the peace scene, also known as the victory sign.

- When Pokemon Sunday showed off the starters the three people doing it were dressed in special outfits. They were dressed like old New York paperboys.


- America is farther away than Shanghai in comparison to Japan.

- Three new pokemon were shown all at the same time and they had something relatively strange in common. They were all disney-like. We got Alvin, Bambi and a Disney Swan. You may deny it but Disney is a big part of the American culture.

- America has been referenced in games before and part of America has been used for the Orre region (Arizona). I am pretty sure China hasn't been a base for any regions yet.

- China is communist and would freak out if Game Freak didn't represent them as positively as possible. Any negativity would get the games banned.

- There is a Royal/Medieval theme going on for the plots of Black and White. This means that an evil team is trying to institute a Royal system on the people of Isshu. This is most likely a reference to when Great Britain tried to do the same to the people of America a hundred or so years ago.

- Having Black people in the games sort of helps the New York theory because there are almost no Black people in Japan.

- Shanghai is Triangular shaped. New York is not and neither is Isshu.

- New York fits on to Isshu more so than Shanghai.

Zet July 31st, 2010 5:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Yams (Post 6019670)
I say the subway further helps in making it like New York. Also there one of the screen shots looks similar to Grand Central Station.

You do know that a lot of countries have subways?

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 6021400)
- America is the only country that plays American Football, thus the gear we wear for this sport is only here in America.

- Game Freak picked now to make an American Pokemon. Wooguru/Wargle is Red, White, and Blue and is a Bald Eagle. Both are symbols of America. He is also wearing a Native American Headdress, which points to the heritage of the country of America.

- Victini's name is a cross between Tini and Victory. He is found by using the Liberty Ticket. He is also showing the peace scene, also known as the victory sign.

- When Pokemon Sunday showed off the starters the three people doing it were dressed in special outfits. They were dressed like old New York paperboys.


- America is farther away than Shanghai in comparison to Japan.

- Three new pokemon were shown all at the same time and they had something relatively strange in common. They were all disney-like. We got Alvin, Bambi and a Disney Swan. You may deny it but Disney is a big part of the American culture.

- America has been referenced in games before and part of America has been used for the Orre region (Arizona). I am pretty sure China hasn't been a base for any regions yet.

- China is communist and would freak out if Game Freak didn't represent them as positively as possible. Any negativity would get the games banned.

- There is a Royal/Medieval theme going on for the plots of Black and White. This means that an evil team is trying to institute a Royal system on the people of Isshu. This is most likely a reference to when Great Britain tried to do the same to the people of America a hundred or so years ago.

- Having Black people in the games sort of helps the New York theory because there are almost no Black people in Japan.

- Shanghai is Triangular shaped. New York is not and neither is Isshu.

- New York fits on to Isshu more so than Shanghai.

Just because something shows a "V" sign does not mean it is American. And Disney like you say? You do know that Disney animals are based off real life animals? Besides, those "Disney like" animals also live in a few different countries around the world.

MistahDude July 31st, 2010 7:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Zet (Post 6021456)
You do know that a lot of countries have subways?



Just because something shows a "V" sign does not mean it is American. And Disney like you say? You do know that Disney animals are based off real life animals? Besides, those "Disney like" animals also live in a few different countries around the world.

They are drawn like Disney characters.

Yingxue August 14th, 2010 4:25 PM

Honestly, whether people like it or not, Isshu's looking more and more like it's based off NYC, not Shanghai. I was sold when they revealed the Liberty Island thing.

King Gumball August 14th, 2010 4:43 PM

I can't wait what the battle frontier is! I hope it is even better than the previous ones. I still think the Emerald battle frontier is the one to beat.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 14th, 2010 4:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 6021739)
They are drawn like Disney characters.

Not really our deer doesn't have long legs like Bambi, and it has diffrent color schemes. The "chipmunk" looks more like a Meerkat than a chipmunk,even if it was more chipmunk like it doesn't look like Alvin...

dieter57 August 14th, 2010 4:58 PM

i think the Disney thing is just a coincidence.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 14th, 2010 4:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 6071402)
i think the Disney thing is just a coincidence.

Yeah I think so too, I don't think a Pokemon's design should be used to find where a region is based on.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot to say this, Sinnoh was kind of French in culture so culture can be misleading as well, good thing the first four regions we had Geography to help us :)

PiPVoda August 14th, 2010 5:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GFA (Post 6018421)
You know, it doesnt really look like anything? I was thinking it could be moddled after France because of Jaun and Fatina, but France lacks a desert ...

what if this desert is larger than all of France? :D

Swolligator August 14th, 2010 8:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 6021400)
- America is the only country that plays American Football, thus the gear we wear for this sport is only here in America.

- Having Black people in the games sort of helps the New York theory because there are almost no Black people in Japan.


Im sorry dude, this made me laugh. There are many black people in japan, at least where i live. My friend is black too. I see black people here all the time.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 14th, 2010 9:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 雷影 イチロ (Post 6072068)



Im sorry dude, this made me laugh. There are many black people in japan, at least where i live. My friend is black too. I see black people here all the time.

I thought that was the case :), There are people with dark skin almost anywhere in the world now in days :)

Ho-Oh August 14th, 2010 10:07 PM

Just a note, if you'd like to discuss where Isshu is based on, do it here, otherwise carry on with other Isshu discussions :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 14th, 2010 10:51 PM

Opps I misread the thread...
Well I wonder if the Isshu map changes every season?

Livewire August 14th, 2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6072405)
Opps I misread the thread...
Well I wonder if the Isshu map changes every season?

like what do you mean? well if there are seasons in the game, im guessing certains routes/towns/whatever will look different in different seasons.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 14th, 2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6072420)
like what do you mean? well if there are seasons in the game, im guessing certains routes/towns/whatever will look different in different seasons.

Yeah like that, I mean will the map show snow routes in winter ?

MistahDude August 14th, 2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6072436)

Yeah like that, I mean will the map show snow routes in winter ?

I thought you meant that if there would be optional routes that changed based on the season.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 14th, 2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 6072439)
I thought you meant that if there would be optional routes that changed based on the season.

nope I just wanted to know if the way the routes turn white when there is snow on them :P

Angelroid August 15th, 2010 12:52 AM

We won't know till the games are out.

Resultz August 15th, 2010 4:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelroid (Post 6072551)
We won't know till the games are out.

I like posting constructive comments aswell ¬¬


Id like it to change with the seasons.
Id also like to see a full region map like the one ingame.
Then we'd be able to speculate a lot more..

However i like the look of the bridges and the carnival thing etc, aswell as the desert.

Dragonika August 15th, 2010 1:34 PM

This region looks huge !

Also the various areas look awesome such as Black city , White forest , Hiun city bay and the bridges look amazing <3

Although I don't like the idea of there being no berry's :(

dieter57 August 15th, 2010 7:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonika (Post 6074158)
This region looks huge !

Also the various areas look awesome such as Black city , White forest , Hiun city bay and the bridges look amazing <3

Although I don't like the idea of there being no berry's :(

no berries? what?
since when?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 15th, 2010 7:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 6075142)
no berries? what?
since when?

Yeah we can't grow berries in Isshu :(, only in the Dream world.

austy14 August 15th, 2010 8:48 PM

So what, berries have been proven to not exist and only appear in dreams!?!? Lol jk, I know what ya mean. But with season's I think it would be interesting if some routes opened up/closed for seasons. Like a water route being able to walk upon in winter, closed in spring (for all the excess water in case you don't know why it would be), then a peaceful river in Summer and fall. A sidenote, I would like for YOU to be able to swim, at least a little in some places. And I also wonder... if you climbed a snow bank to a cliff during winter, was inactive till "summer," would you be stuck till winter again? Or would there be an alternate way off? Not including fly.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 15th, 2010 9:23 PM

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Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6075331)
So what, berries have been proven to not exist and only appear in dreams!?!? Lol jk, I know what ya mean. But with season's I think it would be interesting if some routes opened up/closed for seasons. Like a water route being able to walk upon in winter, closed in spring (for all the excess water in case you don't know why it would be), then a peaceful river in Summer and fall. A sidenote, I would like for YOU to be able to swim, at least a little in some places. And I also wonder... if you climbed a snow bank to a cliff during winter, was inactive till "summer," would you be stuck till winter again? Or would there be an alternate way off? Not including fly.

I'm thinking that you might be dropped down to the ground below the bank, it's the most likely thing to happen or it's going to be like the trees that could be cut in gen 1...where you are on top of a tree! Oh so I read in Bulbapedia ( about the tree thing).

austy14 August 15th, 2010 9:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6075385)
I'm thinking that you might be dropped down to the ground below the bank, it's the most likely thing to happen or it's going to be like the trees that could be cut in gen 1...where you are on top of a tree! Oh so I read in Bulbapedia ( about the tree thing).

The tree thing works. I figured out in Yellow I saved next to one and then my Pikachu was on it, so I saved with me on it. Nothing special, just a tree behind you and when you step off everything's normal. But I hope there is some way (that looks cool, not a series of hop along ledges) to get off cus I once saved behind a Pokemon Center desk after using my friends AR and forgot I did so when he left, game crashed and I was stuck for a couple months.

Red1530 August 16th, 2010 4:29 PM

More then likely there will be a way off the season exclusive areas otherwise a lot of fans will not be happy.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 16th, 2010 7:48 PM

Are we getting off topic by talking about seasons, shouldn't we use the Season thread for that :/?
Well Isshu seems pretty cool, I hope it's funner than Sinnoh was :)

Sora's Nobody August 16th, 2010 9:44 PM

Well it does look alot of fun. With the amusement park e.g but the region d´those seem awfully small.

coolnick37 August 17th, 2010 7:02 AM

Isshu map, more than it seems?
 
Soo guys, take a look at this ingame pic on Isshu:

http://i35.*.com/2cp6tqr.jpg

Do you see the arrows near the bottom that go up and down, could this mean that Isshu has more land up, or do we see more land on the north in the next edition?

Ho-Oh August 17th, 2010 7:05 AM

Merged with the Isshu Region thread :)

~Wind~ August 17th, 2010 7:28 AM

Hmm...
Thats some nice spotting there, coolnick, maybe that airportish thing we saw at the side of the map takes us over a mountain range to the second part of isshu.
and isshu does seem kinda small.
I'm gonna say, yes; I do think theres more of isshu!

Wind

King Gumball August 17th, 2010 1:31 PM

An airport? Cool!

I must say I like the shaping of the map! The cluster of buildings looks really cool too.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 3:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolnick37 (Post 6079868)
Soo guys, take a look at this ingame pic on Isshu:

http://i35.*.com/2cp6tqr.jpg

Do you see the arrows near the bottom that go up and down, could this mean that Isshu has more land up, or do we see more land on the north in the next edition?

Could be, I hope so too, it would be awesome if there was more to see :)

Silver25 August 17th, 2010 3:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6081146)

Could be, I hope so too, it would be awesome if there was more to see :)

It could also be different versions of the map. Like one version is with High Link spots, then another like the town map, etc...

austy14 August 17th, 2010 4:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolnick37 (Post 6079868)
Soo guys, take a look at this ingame pic on Isshu:

http://i35.*.com/2cp6tqr.jpg

Do you see the arrows near the bottom that go up and down, could this mean that Isshu has more land up, or do we see more land on the north in the next edition?

I hope there's more. I love the Map, but tight now it looks a little empty. All the other region maps showed every city, and pretty much every house, which isn't the case here. So I'm guessing it's obviously bigger than the other regions (as it shows more land), but I wanna see the game map/how cities lay out.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 4:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver25 (Post 6081268)
It could also be different versions of the map. Like one version is with High Link spots, then another like the town map, etc...

Could be...
It seems like we can get to go to some island or something (another abandoned boat perhaps ;) ) in the sea :)


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