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NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING IS CONFIRMED. DO NOT STATE SPECULATION AS A FACT. Can you guys maybe tell what my pet peeve is? Yes, with the Sky Arrow Bridge resembling Nanpu? bridge, Shanghai has a lot going for it, and yes, I do personally think that it has a high chance of hosting the Isshu region. However, it may not. It. is. not. con. firmed. Honestly, when is it going to get into your heads that you are not correct if the information hasn't been released? Also, the pokemon that live in the region don't support its origins at all. Are beavers, giraffes, elephants, scorpions, and armadillos native to Japan? No, they aren't. We have a bald eagle in Isshu. For those who say that doesn't mean it's New York, well, your pigeon doesn't mean it's Shanghai. Again, say it with me, this is all speculation, and not fact. It is not fact. Don't treat it like fact. Don't state it as fact. Besides, if that blue bird is a Mamepoto evolution, to me that seems like the perfect link between Mamepoto and Woogoru. Quote:
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Also no one has actually confirmed the other 4 regions either being based in Japan, it's only a fan theory that is very convincing, more convincing than some scientific theories in my eyes :P |
i still think it's NEW YORK CITY!
the city so nice, they named it twice. but it really could be either or. i mean pigeon pokemon? along side a bald eagle pokemon? it screams red, white and blue! and central park is like, right there. (central park=pal park? i hope not) i'm sticking with it until game freak says otherwise. |
Well GF never tells us what the regions are based on :P
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in all complete honesty.................i dont care where it's located.
as long as it's fun to play, and has a bunch of cool features, im good. |
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Besides, I like to see respect and kindness in these threads and "NO YOU'RE WRONG AND I'M RIGHT" just isn't very respectful. |
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Well the other regions use Geography as well, though I do want to see more proof to back up the Shanghai theory and more proof from the NYC side other than pokemon origins :) |
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Also, as I said in the route thread, dialog could change this. What if someone were to refer to Hiun as "the big apple"? That changes things. Also, it's harder to determine this time around because all the previous regions were in Japan. They only needed to look to Japan to find the region. This time, we have the other 98% of the world in question. |
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I hope Isshu has many fun places to go to, I am interested in the water fall by the mountain:)
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Isshu is based of Nigeria :laugh:No but seriously, it has a Delta with two rivers and a huge long Bridge and desert... It uses the track rail system. One's right outside my house there :cheeky:
Anyway, Isshu can't just be based on one City, it should be a country... Oh wait, it's the cities/towns themselves that are based on different places. The thing is, one person said New York, everyone agrees and then it sticks. When the possibility that it's Shanghai comes up, it's hard to adjust o that. Personally, I want it to be Shanghai because Americans will gloat bad and that won't be as expected as New York would be. Though, the Protagonists point to New York, Cheren and Beru point to Asia (Shanghai). |
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I don't see how the characters point to NY or Shanghai is it their clothing? Or looks? |
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EDIT: http://www.wordtravels.com/images/map/Nigeria_map.jpg That's the whole country, Nigeria xD |
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Really? they don't look any more American than Red,Crystal/Lyra, Brendan or Dawn to me:\ |
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Dawn, Leaf, May, Brendan, Lucas, White, Cheren - All seem very Asian to me. |
Oh come on? Was my whole THIS LOOKS LIKE SYDNEY idea completely ignored?
IT HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE SYDNEY AS IT DOES TO BE NEW YORK OR AMERICA OR WHEREVER ELSE ;-; SYDNEY HAS THE RIGHT TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH NO OTHER AREA STATED HAS SO FAR. |
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I will say that now Shanghai is on MY list of possible areas Isshu is based off of. (U.S, Shanghai, Hiroshima area) But then again we'll just need to wait and see. |
The Hiroshima area is close to Johto and it Japan though (makes confused face)
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Yeah it is part of Japan but like many have said on here we don't know how all the regions are placed in the pokemon world. Isshu could be based off of it and be placed away from the other regions, we just don't know... |
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And Wooguru is obviously a bald eagle as you said. |
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...Surprisingly that's what I thought. XD;
Though I don't think the city in-game looks like an orange which could confuse children D: |
Nunavut... and how is it high-tech?
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Image proof then.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/351/sydney.png As you can see by the picture I've just posted, there are two main rivers, and, get this, look at the stuff at the top, left and right sides of the image. MOUNTAINS. Closer to Isshu than New York City, I think. Also, you might notice there's a funny blue splot thing in the middle of the map. That's Prospect Reservoir, in the exact same place as Pokeball Lake in Isshu. I'll admit, the shape of the area between the Parramatta and Georges Rivers is shaped a bit more like a hammer than a rectangle, but the area's shape is always altered when turned into a Pokemon region. So, how's it with the evidence for Sydney = Isshu? New York has the shape, Shanghai has the city size and landmarks, Sydney has the topography. I've absolutely no idea where that Nunavut argument came from. I was only kidding around at first, when I said Sydney, but now, I'm quite serious. You could say that I've been convinced by my own evidence. So, how many is that now? New York, Shanghai, Hiroshima, Sydney, Nunavat. |
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I'm not sure what all the fuss about that bridge in Shanghai is. Lots of bridges have spiral ends, like this one:
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I admit I thought Isshu was based on NYC when I first saw it because Hiun City is placed right where the big skyscrapers would be and the similar shapes. It can see how it could be based on Shanghai, though the map looks a bit like both. The only thing that gets me is that in terms of geography the last two regions (Hoenn and Sinnoh) don't just resemble the places they're based on, they're close to identical. Shanghai is on a triangular piece of land and I don't have any reason to think that the game creators are going to pick this moment to so drastically change the shape of the real-world place that's the basis for this region. They might, but it would be a break from what they've done in the past. |
I just wanted to point out that a "possible" Isshu = US hint is the Liberty Ticket that will be obtained through Wi-Fi in order to obtain the new legendary Victini on Black and White. I'm not saying anything major, it could just be a subtle hint though.
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for all the non believers out there
isshu has two small islands to the bottom left of the screen and several others to the bottom right. in the new york picture there are two islands to the left and liberty island to the right. it's not an exact match but hey, neither are the rest of the regions. plus the new liberty ticket event was just announced. liberty ticket=boat ride to liberty island???? now does shanghai have islands in the same location? no, i didn't think so. |
Maybe Isshu is based on both NYC and Shanghai, that possibility hasn't been ruled out.
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On the liberty ticket, there is a picture of a lighthouse. although i dont care where it is, it could lead to "Liberty Island", another hint at NYC.
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Bikutini is shown using the peace sign (two fingers in the shape of a 'V'), V was broadcast in morse code from the liberty statue on D-Day and at the end of WW2. - it is a big coincidence.
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i think it's just a coincidence. pokemon, is after all, Japanese. so i just thinkthe 'V' with his ears is just a coincidence. besides, lots of pkemon have three spikes on the top of their heads.
does that mean pokemon is under the study of wumbology? (recently saw spongebob) |
When was there Hippie's in Japan?
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It looks almost nothing like that the Mountains look small, no islands nearby, rivers too close together and the only thing that matches is the lake thing shaped like a circle... |
I didn't read all 19 pages but I don't think anyone has said this yet. After Victini was revealed yesterday I got to thinking. The item you need in order to get him/her is called the "Liberty Ticket" and liberty, as far as I know, is really only associated with the United States. More so than it is with any other real life place anyway. Also New York city has the original Statue of Liberty. I know there are others around the world but New York has the biggest and the original one. I say this is one more point for those who think it is New York/United States.
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i hope the battle frontier is there again. it was fun in the previous games!
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new generation means:
new gyms/ gym leaders new elite four new champion and new battle frontier/ frontier brains. but the battle tower will still be there but it will just have a new brain. |
Isshu Region Map Revealed
The Isshu map was shown during the July 30th Oha Suta Trailer:
It shows the Isshu map with 14 Towns or other major landmarks and 19 small green dots indicating other smaller areas. |
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umm yeah its huge... can't wait to embark on a completely new Pokemon journey...
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Either that or they want you to explore more. |
I thought it looked quite weird at first, actually.
The art looked quite.. plastic almost, and it also looked like there wouldn't be much to see there, just a few towns and things placed in an unnatural circle. I look forward to this now, though :3 As long as the graphics stays as good as it hints. :P |
When I first saw that image, I thought it was fake, but at a second glance, the black taskbar with the buttons doesn't really fit in well and I wonder if those arrows means to navigate from town to town or.... different areas of Isshu.
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I'm sorry, but the first thing I thought of when I saw that was "HAH! New York's right landmass thing isn't so thin! Shanghai's, however..." and then I realised that was already on the map we had before. This argument is getting to my head.
But it looks cool. (b'-')b |
Looks like a worm holding a diamond.. :O
or its just my imagination lol |
You know, it doesnt really look like anything? I was thinking it could be moddled after France because of Jaun and Fatina, but France lacks a desert ...
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I was hoping for shanghai
but after seeing the liberty ticket I could go either way then I saw the footballer now its new york without a doubt no other country in the world wears that gear for sports I are sad faced its not shanghai |
i dont know but i could be new york
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I say the subway further helps in making it like New York. Also there one of the screen shots looks similar to Grand Central Station.
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Also, they mentioned once, high link is only available in the upper part of isshu. which means... MORE BELOW?! |
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- America is the only country that plays American Football, thus the gear we wear for this sport is only here in America.
- Game Freak picked now to make an American Pokemon. Wooguru/Wargle is Red, White, and Blue and is a Bald Eagle. Both are symbols of America. He is also wearing a Native American Headdress, which points to the heritage of the country of America. - Victini's name is a cross between Tini and Victory. He is found by using the Liberty Ticket. He is also showing the peace scene, also known as the victory sign. - When Pokemon Sunday showed off the starters the three people doing it were dressed in special outfits. They were dressed like old New York paperboys. Spoiler:
- America is farther away than Shanghai in comparison to Japan. - Three new pokemon were shown all at the same time and they had something relatively strange in common. They were all disney-like. We got Alvin, Bambi and a Disney Swan. You may deny it but Disney is a big part of the American culture. - America has been referenced in games before and part of America has been used for the Orre region (Arizona). I am pretty sure China hasn't been a base for any regions yet. - China is communist and would freak out if Game Freak didn't represent them as positively as possible. Any negativity would get the games banned. - There is a Royal/Medieval theme going on for the plots of Black and White. This means that an evil team is trying to institute a Royal system on the people of Isshu. This is most likely a reference to when Great Britain tried to do the same to the people of America a hundred or so years ago. - Having Black people in the games sort of helps the New York theory because there are almost no Black people in Japan. - Shanghai is Triangular shaped. New York is not and neither is Isshu. - New York fits on to Isshu more so than Shanghai. Spoiler:
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Honestly, whether people like it or not, Isshu's looking more and more like it's based off NYC, not Shanghai. I was sold when they revealed the Liberty Island thing.
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I can't wait what the battle frontier is! I hope it is even better than the previous ones. I still think the Emerald battle frontier is the one to beat.
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i think the Disney thing is just a coincidence.
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Edit: Oh yeah I forgot to say this, Sinnoh was kind of French in culture so culture can be misleading as well, good thing the first four regions we had Geography to help us :) |
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Im sorry dude, this made me laugh. There are many black people in japan, at least where i live. My friend is black too. I see black people here all the time. |
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Just a note, if you'd like to discuss where Isshu is based on, do it here, otherwise carry on with other Isshu discussions :)
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Opps I misread the thread...
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Id like it to change with the seasons. Id also like to see a full region map like the one ingame. Then we'd be able to speculate a lot more.. However i like the look of the bridges and the carnival thing etc, aswell as the desert. |
This region looks huge !
Also the various areas look awesome such as Black city , White forest , Hiun city bay and the bridges look amazing <3 Although I don't like the idea of there being no berry's :( |
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So what, berries have been proven to not exist and only appear in dreams!?!? Lol jk, I know what ya mean. But with season's I think it would be interesting if some routes opened up/closed for seasons. Like a water route being able to walk upon in winter, closed in spring (for all the excess water in case you don't know why it would be), then a peaceful river in Summer and fall. A sidenote, I would like for YOU to be able to swim, at least a little in some places. And I also wonder... if you climbed a snow bank to a cliff during winter, was inactive till "summer," would you be stuck till winter again? Or would there be an alternate way off? Not including fly.
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More then likely there will be a way off the season exclusive areas otherwise a lot of fans will not be happy.
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Are we getting off topic by talking about seasons, shouldn't we use the Season thread for that :/?
Well Isshu seems pretty cool, I hope it's funner than Sinnoh was :) |
Well it does look alot of fun. With the amusement park e.g but the region d´those seem awfully small.
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Isshu map, more than it seems?
Soo guys, take a look at this ingame pic on Isshu:
http://i35.*.com/2cp6tqr.jpg Do you see the arrows near the bottom that go up and down, could this mean that Isshu has more land up, or do we see more land on the north in the next edition? |
Merged with the Isshu Region thread :)
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Hmm...
Thats some nice spotting there, coolnick, maybe that airportish thing we saw at the side of the map takes us over a mountain range to the second part of isshu. and isshu does seem kinda small. I'm gonna say, yes; I do think theres more of isshu! Wind |
An airport? Cool!
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It seems like we can get to go to some island or something (another abandoned boat perhaps ;) ) in the sea :) |
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