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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 5978135)
All this is amazing. the guy in the video came with so much proof, that you would have to have gotten out of the mental institution to denie this.

Yeah that is true, the bridge proves it :P

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5977973)
Don't worry I won't gloat for being right :D
Yeah that pigeon does look a lot like the blue one we saw!

Isn't that exactly what you're doing right now?

NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING IS CONFIRMED.
DO NOT STATE SPECULATION AS A FACT.


Can you guys maybe tell what my pet peeve is?
Yes, with the Sky Arrow Bridge resembling Nanpu? bridge, Shanghai has a lot going for it, and yes, I do personally think that it has a high chance of hosting the Isshu region. However, it may not. It. is. not. con. firmed. Honestly, when is it going to get into your heads that you are not correct if the information hasn't been released?

Also, the pokemon that live in the region don't support its origins at all. Are beavers, giraffes, elephants, scorpions, and armadillos native to Japan? No, they aren't. We have a bald eagle in Isshu. For those who say that doesn't mean it's New York, well, your pigeon doesn't mean it's Shanghai. Again, say it with me, this is all speculation, and not fact. It is not fact. Don't treat it like fact. Don't state it as fact.

Besides, if that blue bird is a Mamepoto evolution, to me that seems like the perfect link between Mamepoto and Woogoru.

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978179)

Yeah that is true, the bridge proves it :P

You just love to fill me with murderous rage, don't you?

that's a joke, by the way...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978259)
Isn't that exactly what you're doing right now?

NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING IS CONFIRMED.
DO NOT STATE SPECULATION AS A FACT.


Can you guys maybe tell what my pet peeve is?
Yes, with the Sky Arrow Bridge resembling Nanpu? bridge, Shanghai has a lot going for it, and yes, I do personally think that it has a high chance of hosting the Isshu region. However, it may not. It. is. not. con. firmed. Honestly, when is it going to get into your heads that you are not correct if the information hasn't been released?

Also, the pokemon that live in the region don't support its origins at all. Are beavers, giraffes, elephants, scorpions, and armadillos native to Japan? No, they aren't. We have a bald eagle in Isshu. For those who say that doesn't mean it's New York, well, your pigeon doesn't mean it's Shanghai. Again, say it with me, this is all speculation, and not fact. It is not fact. Don't treat it like fact. Don't state it as fact.

Besides, if that blue bird is a Mamepoto evolution, to me that seems like the perfect link between Mamepoto and Woogoru.

No I'm not gloating, I can gloat a lot more than that...
Also no one has actually confirmed the other 4 regions either being based in Japan, it's only a fan theory that is very convincing, more convincing than some scientific theories in my eyes :P

dieter57 July 17th, 2010 12:23 PM

i still think it's NEW YORK CITY!
the city so nice, they named it twice.
but it really could be either or.
i mean pigeon pokemon? along side a bald eagle pokemon?
it screams red, white and blue!
and central park is like, right there. (central park=pal park? i hope not)

i'm sticking with it until game freak says otherwise.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:24 PM

Well GF never tells us what the regions are based on :P

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978277)
No I'm not gloating, I can gloat a lot more than that...
Also no one has actually confirmed the other 4 regions either being based in Japan, it's only a fan theory that is very convincing, more convincing than some scientific theories in my eyes :P

Considering you haven't played the game, you don't know any of the dialog, you haven't seen all the characters, or places yet, you have absolutely NO IDEA. We haven't seen any of the culture. No, you can't state it as fact, because you've only seen 8% of the game anyway.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978300)
Considering you haven't played the game, you don't know any of the dialog, you haven't seen all the characters, or places yet, you have absolutely NO IDEA. We haven't seen any of the culture. No, you can't state it as fact, because you've only seen 8% of the game anyway.

Yeah that's true, I'm only basing it on the Geography...

dieter57 July 17th, 2010 12:33 PM

in all complete honesty.................i dont care where it's located.
as long as it's fun to play, and has a bunch of cool features, im good.

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978306)

Yeah that's true, I'm only basing it on the Geography...

And it's not just you. It's countless people over countless threads over countless different topics. The way I was taught in school was that you needed solid proof is you're going to say something. So when that doesn't happen, I get really pissed off. I try really hard to make my point and have solid evidence to back it up, and when others just throw around statements willy-nilly (wow, who says that? I swear I am the oldest 15 year old alive... >.>) I just get frustrated.
Besides, I like to see respect and kindness in these threads and "NO YOU'RE WRONG AND I'M RIGHT" just isn't very respectful.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978325)
And it's not just you. It's countless people over countless threads over countless different topics. The way I was taught in school was that you needed solid proof is you're going to say something. So when that doesn't happen, I get really pissed off. I try really hard to make my point and have solid evidence to back it up, and when others just throw around statements willy-nilly (wow, who says that? I swear I am the oldest 15 year old alive... >.>) I just get frustrated.
Besides, I like to see respect and kindness in these threads and "NO YOU'RE WRONG AND I'M RIGHT" just isn't very respectful.

Yeah I don't tell people that they were wrong directly as that's mean :(.
Well the other regions use Geography as well, though I do want to see more proof to back up the Shanghai theory and more proof from the NYC side other than pokemon origins :)

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978362)

Yeah I don't tell people that they were wrong directly as that's mean :(.
Well the other regions use Geography as well, though I do want to see more proof to back up the Shanghai theory and more proof from the NYC side other than pokemon origins :)

Well by stating "I'm right" it's the exact same as saying "you're wrong".
Also, as I said in the route thread, dialog could change this. What if someone were to refer to Hiun as "the big apple"? That changes things. Also, it's harder to determine this time around because all the previous regions were in Japan. They only needed to look to Japan to find the region. This time, we have the other 98% of the world in question.

Zackraa July 17th, 2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 5977432)
But then Pigeons in China:
http://silentlistening.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/takeoff.jpg

Looks like that Mamepato evo we saw, the Blue thing.

and here is a chinese eagle
http://i32.*.com/2nm1jp.jpg
looks just like Wooguru

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:58 PM

I hope Isshu has many fun places to go to, I am interested in the water fall by the mountain:)

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 2:13 PM

Isshu is based of Nigeria :laugh:No but seriously, it has a Delta with two rivers and a huge long Bridge and desert... It uses the track rail system. One's right outside my house there :cheeky:

Anyway, Isshu can't just be based on one City, it should be a country... Oh wait, it's the cities/towns themselves that are based on different places.

The thing is, one person said New York, everyone agrees and then it sticks. When the possibility that it's Shanghai comes up, it's hard to adjust o that. Personally, I want it to be Shanghai because Americans will gloat bad and that won't be as expected as New York would be. Though, the Protagonists point to New York, Cheren and Beru point to Asia (Shanghai).

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 3:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 5978425)
Isshu is based of Nigeria :laugh:No but seriously, it has a Delta with two rivers and a huge long Bridge and desert... It uses the track rail system. One's right outside my house there :cheeky:

Anyway, Isshu can't just be based on one City, it should be a country... Oh wait, it's the cities/towns themselves that are based on different places.

The thing is, one person said New York, everyone agrees and then it sticks. When the possibility that it's Shanghai comes up, it's hard to adjust o that. Personally, I want it to be Shanghai because Americans will gloat bad and that won't be as expected as New York would be. Though, the Protagonists point to New York, Cheren and Beru point to Asia (Shanghai).

Nigeria, for reals show us a map of where :P
I don't see how the characters point to NY or Shanghai is it their clothing? Or looks?

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 3:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978560)

Nigeria, for reals show us a map of where :P
I don't see how the characters point to NY or Shanghai is it their clothing? Or looks?

Black and White look like American kids, maybe just White. Cheren definitely has an Asian feel to him, so does Beru. N also. And Prof. As Assistant. Prof. A does look American though.

EDIT:
http://www.wordtravels.com/images/map/Nigeria_map.jpg
That's the whole country, Nigeria xD

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 3:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 5978568)
Black and White look like American kids, maybe just White. Cheren definitely has an Asian feel to him, so does Beru. N also. And Prof. As Assistant. Prof. A does look American though.

EDIT:
http://www.wordtravels.com/images/map/Nigeria_map.jpg
That's the whole country, Nigeria xD

Oh I found the delta that could be Isshu :P
Really? they don't look any more American than Red,Crystal/Lyra, Brendan or Dawn to me:\

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 3:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978582)
Oh I found the delta that could be Isshu :P
Really? they don't look any more American than Red,Crystal/Lyra, Brendan or Dawn to me:\

Nah, they all looked Asian, yeah, all of them, to me. :\

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 5978596)
Nah, they all looked Asian, yeah, all of them, to me. :\

Huh, I found Red the most "American" out of all the characters as of yet:\

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978673)
Huh, I found Red the most "American" out of all the characters as of yet:\

Oh yeah, him. And Gold I guess. But not Ethan.. oh I dunno xD

Dawn, Leaf, May, Brendan, Lucas, White, Cheren - All seem very Asian to me.

Ninja Caterpie July 17th, 2010 4:24 PM

Oh come on? Was my whole THIS LOOKS LIKE SYDNEY idea completely ignored?

IT HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE SYDNEY AS IT DOES TO BE NEW YORK OR AMERICA OR WHEREVER ELSE ;-; SYDNEY HAS THE RIGHT TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH NO OTHER AREA STATED HAS SO FAR.

Silver25 July 17th, 2010 4:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5978826)
Oh come on? Was my whole THIS LOOKS LIKE SYDNEY idea completely ignored?

IT HAS JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE SYDNEY AS IT DOES TO BE NEW YORK OR AMERICA OR WHEREVER ELSE ;-; SYDNEY HAS THE RIGHT TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH NO OTHER AREA STATED HAS SO FAR.

Dude chill out. No need to get frustrated over this stuff. Anyways, how does Sydney have the right topography? I just looked thorough Google Earth and I disagree.

I will say that now Shanghai is on MY list of possible areas Isshu is based off of. (U.S, Shanghai, Hiroshima area) But then again we'll just need to wait and see.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 4:52 PM

The Hiroshima area is close to Johto and it Japan though (makes confused face)

Silver25 July 17th, 2010 4:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978884)
The Hiroshima area is close to Johto and it Japan though (makes confused face)

I posted some information on it a few pages back. Take a look at it.

Yeah it is part of Japan but like many have said on here we don't know how all the regions are placed in the pokemon world. Isshu could be based off of it and be placed away from the other regions, we just don't know...

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 5:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zackraa (Post 5978390)
and here is a chinese eagle
http://i32.*.com/2nm1jp.jpg
looks just like Wooguru

It really doesn't. Wooguru has an Indian headdress. Wooguru has white feathers on it's face and some on it's head, supporting bald eagle theory. I really don't see how one can deny that.


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