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Brandon17 August 2nd, 2010 2:10 PM

Dragon Pokemon, lots of them. I would want Salamence to be in it :D

Itstoppedatumbreon August 2nd, 2010 3:12 PM

doubt about pidgey or poliwag, but i wouldnt count out bidoof just yet
have you seen that new eagle pokemon? will wipe the floor with a pigeot(probs!)
amd that new fire pokemon looks awsum anyways! not even weak to water!!!!!!
serebii.net for info

Haza August 2nd, 2010 3:44 PM

I could see the Budew family fitting in really well, and of course maybe Feebas or Scyther.

I Tried Voodoo Once August 2nd, 2010 3:55 PM

i dont know about you guys but i wanna see Zangoose and seviper in these games, seviper is so underrated but such an amazing pokemon!
those 2 could use an evolution if anything too.
ummm i hope to see those 2 plus growlithe/arcanine.

I still think that they're going overboard with all this stuff though

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 2nd, 2010 6:16 PM

All the electric roddents ;)

raidenx2008 August 3rd, 2010 4:07 AM

1) PIKACHU!!!! The legendary pokemon!!! (jk)
2) Tropius, I like it
3) Deoxys, COOL!
4) JIRACHI!!!!
5) Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza (I know it`ll never happen =.=)

Amore August 3rd, 2010 4:33 AM

Code:

- Trapinch/Vibrava/Flygon - There's a huge desert out there. This family just should be there. It'd also give them a break from being overshadowed by Salamence, and to a lesser extent Altaria, in their home region.

- Magnemite/Magneton/Magnezone - I like them, they're the only pokemon to be available in every game I own that I like, but never use. Magnezone also needs to be evolvable outside of Gen IV


Yeah, those are the main two.

MistahDude August 3rd, 2010 10:24 AM

http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/?p=255

This blog post by Game Freak's director basically states that the Isshu Dex will contain no old pokemon in it, that means no old pokemon until the national dex.

Smitje August 3rd, 2010 1:00 PM

I hope mostly the normal beginpokemon will we in the begin of the game like Johto, and not like Diamond, with only Starly, Bidoof, Shinx.

Corruptodile August 3rd, 2010 1:07 PM

None. Zilch. Nada. Unless they are cool pre Gen V pokemon, like Arcanine for example :)

Zelda August 3rd, 2010 2:14 PM

Well looks like we won't be able to see any of the older pokémon until after the national pokédex. The Game Freak director stated it in a blog here. The writing is in total japanese but what he states is that none of the other pokémon will be in the Isshu pokédex until afterwords with the Pokéshifter.

But if anything, I'd totally like to see Pikachu. :3

Smitje August 3rd, 2010 2:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 6032787)
Well looks like we won't be able to see any of the older pokémon until after the national pokédex. The Game Freak director stated it in a blog here. The writing is in total japanese but what he states is that none of the other pokémon will be in the Isshu pokédex until afterwords with the Pokéshifter.

But if anything, I'd totally like to see Pikachu. :3

That's to bad but hey if I can cacht that bug the game will be fine XD

Gardenia101 August 3rd, 2010 3:20 PM

Oh, I really never want to see Zubat or Geodude EVER again......

YAY! 100th post!

dieter57 August 3rd, 2010 3:23 PM

i hope there is.

me want pikachu.


Gardenia101 August 3rd, 2010 3:45 PM

I REALLY want them to go, really REALLY!
http://www.gifninja.com/Workspace/053951af-6b72-4f1d-8a3d-3dfcefe15542/output.gif

G3RM August 3rd, 2010 4:19 PM

None, and from what i've read there won't be...

Kirbychu August 3rd, 2010 4:32 PM

How are they going to incorporate the evos without the pre-evos?

G3RM August 3rd, 2010 5:25 PM

i'm not sure, but the Gamefreak director said it wasn't going to include them, and that you would get pokemon out of the dream world
so thats where you might get the pre

ShinyFufu August 3rd, 2010 5:49 PM

I think it would be ball stompingly cool if Vulpix/Ninetales, Growlithe/Arcanine, Zigzagoon/Linoone, Poochyena/Mightyena, Riolu/Lucario and Chingling/Chimecho were in it.

Swampertrulz August 3rd, 2010 7:09 PM

Yeah considerong Isshu is so far away Im hoping that there will be fewer past gen pokemon. I mean, theres a new dopey bat flying around. Thats gotta be a sign. Although, I hope that there will be Evolutions exclusive to Isshu, kinda like you can only get a Magnezone in Sinnoh, it would be cool if some old Poke's got their second or third stage *coughcoughPinsirMiltankcoughcough* or at least some thing that could spruce up the competitive scene while still keeping its roots, like an evolution for Persian or something that that would bump it up to OU.

Charizardomination August 3rd, 2010 7:27 PM

I hope theres a good mix of kanto and johto pokemon. There needs to be balance.. Maybe a couple hoenns

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 3rd, 2010 8:55 PM

I would want at least two families from each of the past regions :)

Livewire August 3rd, 2010 9:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swampertrulz (Post 6033681)
Yeah considerong Isshu is so far away Im hoping that there will be fewer past gen pokemon. I mean, theres a new dopey bat flying around. Thats gotta be a sign. Although, I hope that there will be Evolutions exclusive to Isshu, kinda like you can only get a Magnezone in Sinnoh, it would be cool if some old Poke's got their second or third stage *coughcoughPinsirMiltankcoughcough* or at least some thing that could spruce up the competitive scene while still keeping its roots, like an evolution for Persian or something that that would bump it up to OU.

^ I completely agree with this. I think there will still be a few old gen pokes from Hoenn, Sinnoh, etc running around, because we need a variety of available species and types to keep everything in balance. Also, regional evolutions FTW, its a great idea i think. *yay persian evo* :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 3rd, 2010 10:07 PM

I want to see Snorunt come and both of it's evolutions make a return again :)

Bluerang1 August 4th, 2010 2:28 AM

NONE! Honest to goodness I want a fresh start!

Ho-Oh August 4th, 2010 6:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gardenia101 (Post 6033030)

My Koromori is cuter :(

Then again that image is sad, since I do sort of like Zubat too. XD;

Spirit Albarn♫ August 4th, 2010 6:54 AM

Hmm, i wouldnt mind seeing the elekid evo-line again

Masterge77 August 4th, 2010 7:09 AM

I'm afraid I have some bad news boys, we're in space apparently, they said that there will be no previous Pokemon in the Isshu dex, only the new ones:

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_and_White_to_feature_only_Gen_V_Pok%C3%A9mon_pre-National_Dex

Kirbychu August 4th, 2010 7:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterge77 (Post 6034923)
I'm afraid I have some bad news boys, we're in space apparently, they said that there will be no previous Pokemon in the Isshu dex, only the new ones:

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_and_White_to_feature_only_Gen_V_Pok%C3%A9mon_pre-National_Dex

Really? What a bad move. You'd think they'd spice up the gym system, or change the starter types but this is what they decide to revamp? I really hope we gain access to the dream world early on in the game. Fail Pokemon just aren't my cup of tea.

Masterge77 August 4th, 2010 8:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbychu (Post 6034979)
Really? What a bad move. You'd think they'd spice up the gym system, or change the starter types but this is what they decide to revamp? I really hope we gain access to the dream world early on in the game. Fail Pokemon just aren't my cup of tea.

Yeah, seriously, a Pokemon game without Pikachu in it, that's just wrong on so many levels, and they're all really basic levels too (LOL 8 Bit Theatre reference), but seriously Game Freak, it's not like you're writing off Ash or anything

Can't you just have ONE evolution line from the previous games, and what does that make of evolutions and pre-evolutions of Pokemon from the previous generations, I'm not waiting after the league just to catch a Pikachu, let alone a Pichu, it's like switching the first gen with the 5th gen Pokemon, it's insane!

GFA August 4th, 2010 9:39 AM

Looks like I was right. THANK GOD. I knew being far awayy would do that. The question is ... How does Ash bring Pikachu to Isshu? Pikachu's always been in the Pokedex before

Hatenko August 4th, 2010 9:51 AM

No Pikachu in the Isshu dex? PRAISE THE DEVELOPERS

Amore August 4th, 2010 10:08 AM

OMG I'm actually buying this now.

I get fed up of being distracted by old pokemon that I love so much. This way, I'll be playing as if it were my first game again! (almost). Brilliant.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 4th, 2010 11:17 AM

So I still expect Ash to have Pikachu despite not being in the dex...like how Jessie had Seviper...
I can't believe that they took out Pika after four gens (I'm not sad, it's truly surprising)...

JAK3 August 4th, 2010 11:21 AM

Yay! Goin' back to basics, keeping only ISSHU Pokemon in the ISSHU Pokedex.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 4th, 2010 11:33 AM

Well we need a new Pikachu...wonder who it will be...

Volroc August 4th, 2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6035670)
So I still expect Ash to have Pikachu despite not being in the dex...like how Jessie had Seviper...
I can't believe that they took out Pika after four gens (I'm not sad, it's truly surprising)...

im glad its gone, its over used, over merchandised,i think its better without pikachu being the only electric type available, i liked pachirisu& will be sad to see it left in the dust like plusle&minun,but im up for new pokemon :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 4th, 2010 1:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6035858)
im glad its gone, its over used, over merchandised,i think its better without pikachu being the only electric type available, i liked pachirisu& will be sad to see it left in the dust like plusle&minun,but im up for new pokemon :)

Well it's only gone in the Isshu dex, I expect it to keep appearing in the anime and continue to be over merchandised -_-...

GFA August 4th, 2010 1:58 PM

Yeah, it''ll still be over merchandized, he'll still bring it to Isshu, cant expect a completely new start. Theyd have to get rid of Ash.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 4th, 2010 2:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFA (Post 6036208)
Yeah, it''ll still be over merchandized, he'll still bring it to Isshu, cant expect a completely new start. Theyd have to get rid of Ash.

They didn't get rid of him this generation, so I doubt they ever will -_-...

Smitje August 4th, 2010 2:27 PM

Nice but I really hope that after the E4 I can trade from SS I can't live without Blissey Xd

EagleVision1999 August 4th, 2010 5:28 PM

Excellent! This will make the new generations very interesting!
The only sad thing is that I can't take my favourite Pokémon with me from the beginning xD. On the plus side, it means I won't be tempted to trade strong Pokémon early on to use them to back out of battles easily.

Red1530 August 4th, 2010 6:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6035858)
im glad its gone, its over used, over merchandised,i think its better without pikachu being the only electric type available, i liked pachirisu& will be sad to see it left in the dust like plusle&minun,but im up for new pokemon :)

How do you know it is not available after getting the National Pokédex? I find it interesting that there will only be Generation V Pokémon in the Regional Pokédex. I hope the Generation V Pokémon are up to the task replacing their traditional counterparts.

MrGnawty August 4th, 2010 10:28 PM

I am glad to see a whole new start. It puts to rest the evo/pre-evo BS I had been reading.

Myzou August 4th, 2010 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrGnawty (Post 6037587)
I am glad to see a whole new start. It puts to rest the evo/pre-evo BS I had been reading.

Uh, in what way?

It's quite possible to simply make SOME Gen 5 pokemon available after the national dex. They did it in Sinnoh.

And if that fish we saw isn't a Luvdisc evolution, I'll eat my shoes.

MrGnawty August 4th, 2010 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myzou (Post 6037630)
Uh, in what way?

It's quite possible to simply make SOME Gen 5 pokemon available after the national dex. They did it in Sinnoh.

And if that fish we saw isn't a Luvdisc evolution, I'll eat my shoes.

B/W is a lot like R/S in the whole new Pokedex aspect. The only prevo we saw then was Azurill. The sunfish Pokemon is most likely an evo to Luvdisc, but I don't see obtaining Luvdisc without the National Dex and/or some sort or Sea Incense/Breeding type deal.

Dark Rukario August 4th, 2010 11:39 PM

I like the idea of a fresh start, I always thought the Pokemon world had to be bigger and with this region much further away from the others it makes sense that the Pokemon living there should be more isolated too.

However this does make it look like there's less chance for new evos/pre-evos, since there's no pre-gen 5's in the Isshu dex. Hopefully there'll be a couple in the National Dex, as there were in DPP :)

Gardenia101 August 5th, 2010 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Rukario (Post 6037676)
I like the idea of a fresh start, I always thought the Pokemon world had to be bigger and with this region much further away from the others it makes sense that the Pokemon living there should be more isolated too.

However this does make it look like there's less chance for new evos/pre-evos, since there's no pre-gen 5's in the Isshu dex. Hopefully there'll be a couple in the National Dex, as there were in DPP :)

Yeah, I know; you should see some of the evolutions fans made up..
Like Perpostrous
and Tentawave

wobbadude1 August 5th, 2010 1:15 AM

Is it true none of the original 493 (with possibly the exception of Luvdisc) is in 5th gen cos Isshu is set in USA whereas the first four were set in Japan. It would be weird not to see some Pokemon though like Magikarp, Geodude, Zubat, Abra and Pikachu!!

Anyway to answer the question I think they should at least have Pikachu and Marill's evolution chain and Luvdisc if he is going to evolve. Possibly Eevee with two more eeveelutions!

coolnick37 August 5th, 2010 10:16 AM

Isshu isnt set in USA -.- as far as we know (though it might be, but unlikely)
I think that any old pokes in b/w are gonna be available only after national dex, since the region should only contain new pokemon

linkinpark187 August 5th, 2010 10:29 AM

I am ecstatic about having a whole new Pokédex. I was kind of getting sick of all these "add-on" Pokémon. No longer having new evolutions or new pre-evolutions will breathe life back into the games. Would it be nice to have some more when you get the National Dex? Maybe. Would I be heartbroken if they didn't? Not at all.

PKMN Trainer Silver August 5th, 2010 10:36 AM

I'm actually a fan of using just Gen 5 until unlocking the National Dex. Make it feel kinda like R/B/G/Y where it's a new start and just that Generation. If they make evolutions for per Gen 5 it'll have to be like the Sinnioh region where they were added an obtainable after the Nation Dex. I approve!

Dawn August 5th, 2010 11:39 AM

I would like to see the Gen 5 isolated at first, but after you beat the game you can go to an "older" region like in G/S/C/HG/SS.

Good feature was good.


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