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Nick May 15th, 2010 7:00 PM

No more legendaries! Please!
 
I'm surprised someone hasn't made this yet. This is one of the things I think about most when I think about what'll happen in this generation.

One of the things I hated the most about Generation IV was the fact that there were so many legionaries that seemed to be acquired mainly through events than anything else. So basically, to the average Pokémon gamer, they were next to impossible to get. Since I know there are very few events in my area that really focus on Pokémon. With that said, one of the things I'm really interested in knowing is how many legendaries are going to be added to this generation. Ever since Generation II, the cover art always focused on the "main" legendary of the game.

So how do you feel legendaries will play out this time around? Do you think there will only be four or five of them like there were in early generations? Or do you feel as though they will continue adding more and more legendaries as the generations progress?

Tyrantrum May 15th, 2010 7:04 PM

There should only be at least five legendaries in this game in my opinion. Two to support the different mascots for the two games, and three others for a new trio. Maybe one event legendary as well, and that's it. But, hopefully they won't make a legendary that is known as a "God." They already did that with Mew, then again with Arceus. They don't need that a third "God" Pokémon. >__>

Thorns May 15th, 2010 7:06 PM

No no no, I like legendaries.

I hated how there weren't a lot in the previous regions.

Wit more legendaries, there's more combinations and friendships to make.

I say bring on more legendaries, even more than generation 4.

Hamilton May 15th, 2010 7:07 PM

at least five? you mean AT THE MOST 5
follow the johto way
2 giant powerful legendaries
3 powerful normal sized legendaries

Mr.Crowley May 15th, 2010 7:09 PM

I think the main Legendaries might play around with a theme of Light and Darkness, maybe a new "Light" type will be introduced D: but since when did the theme of the box ever match the theme of the Legendaries anywho. Hopefully they don't spam the game with like 16 Legendaries again, I hate seeing OU teams spammed with Jirachi, Celebi, Azelf, Suicune and Latias already, I swear I'll quit OU if they add more.

Tyrantrum May 15th, 2010 7:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamilton (Post 5802236)
at least five? you mean AT THE MOST 5

I think I know what I mean. Meaning as in at least five, maybe one or two others.

Waffle-San May 15th, 2010 7:11 PM

Personally I liked Hoenn. I mean the 3 main ones. A supporting cast of 3 and then ideally 2 more Pokemon that had to be acquired by some IN GAME event. I'm tired of living in Canada and knowing if I lived below the 49th I could have a Jirachi or a Mew or whatever. >.< As long as they're creative as to how they're acquired. I mean Heatran was a good idea and all but he was in the wrong game cause we already had to climb a mountain so no one felt like doing it again...twice!!

Kirbychu May 15th, 2010 7:17 PM

I don't care how many legends we have, let's just make sure they're good ones (Design-wise and battle-wise). Let's not have anymore garbage like Shaymin and Phione. Don't forget that pitiful trio we were given. The three were essentially the exact same Pokemon with a different crown.

yomamathecableguy May 15th, 2010 7:19 PM

In my opinion there shouldn't be more than 6-7 legendaries in any generation. There should be 3 games in each generation, so there's 3 legends right there, plus a trio in each one, or 2 couples would be acceptable, and maybe an extra one just to be "mysterious", kind of like Mew for the 1st gen and Celebi for the 2nd. But adding 15 legendaries in the 4th gen? I miss the days where there were a max of 7 per gen..

Guy May 15th, 2010 7:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 5802253)
I mean Heatran was a good idea and all but he was in the wrong game cause we already had to climb a mountain so no one felt like doing it again...twice!!

...and I still haven't caught my Heatran in-game; neither in Diamond or Platinum.

Honestly, if they're going to be going with the version mascots then you can expect at least six legendaries. Two to represent the two versions, three for the game trios, and at least one cute-like Legendary (i.e Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Shaymin). If the pattern continues though, then we can have at least seven, as this next legendary will be the mascot of the third game version.

I personally don't mind having too many legendaries, but of course there needs to be a certain limit where it doesn't get out of control. What we had in DPPt, for me, was okay. HeartGold and SoulSilver just had extra for availability of Third Gen legendaries. Since, DPPt and HG/SS share compatibility with B&W as far as we know, then I wouldn't expect a mass overload of legendaries like we have in the 4th Generation. A moderate amount like we had for the 3rd Gen may be what we get once more, I would think.

Her May 15th, 2010 7:43 PM

In my opinion, they're legendaries. There are not supposed to be many of them, so what is the point of making tens of legends every new generation? It defeats the point of making them 'legends'.

But this is a consumer world, so GameFreak would do as they please.

yomamathecableguy May 15th, 2010 7:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Harlequin (Post 5802393)
In my opinion, they're legendaries. There are not supposed to be many of them, so what is the point of making tens of legends every new generation? It defeats the point of making them 'legends'.

But this is a consumer world, so GameFreak would do as they please.

I COMPLETELY agree. Very well said.

Zeta Sukuna May 15th, 2010 7:59 PM

But other places have other legends. Not all legends are universal. For all we know, people in Isshu don't even know about Mew or Ho-oh, which Kanto and Johto take as legendaries, but worship something else in their place as a legendary. A legendary pokemon is a pokemon with a legend attached to them, or at least that's what it should be. Sure, they're a little more powerful, but to be a legend they have to be, to actually become that legend.

With what I just said, I don't mind legendaries, as long as they don't hide them in wi-fi events. If you have legendaries, then put them in the main game.

While I don't care much about the legendary numbers, this is the ideal amount for me.

Three main legends
A trio of lesser legends
Two side-plot legends

Eight. That's my ideal number.

Timbjerr May 15th, 2010 8:16 PM

I've recently come to have an apathetic attitude about legendaries. I rarely catch them and never put them on my teams because I like the idea of using common pokemon to beat the games with.

They can add as many legendaries as they want this time around. Let the under 10 crowd and the fervent collectors have their fun. I'll be building a team out of pokemon that are actually fun to use. XD

Haza May 15th, 2010 8:21 PM

I want 3 main Legends. 2 for Black and White versions and a 3rd for the 3rd installment. The usual Trio, cute Legendary (Event), one for a random side-quest, and an awesome Event Pokemon (Similar to Deoxys in awesomeness). A total of 9. Events are good for movies, to hold us over (anime wise) until the next generation.

JP May 15th, 2010 8:23 PM

It's true that Sinnoh has lots of Legendaries, but I think that's what the creators were going for when they were working on developing the region. Sinnoh just seems to be that kind of region, a place full of legends and tales.

I think they'll just cut down the amount of Legendaries in this game to something more like the 2nd or 3rd gen. It would be ridiculous to completely remove them though... it wouldn't be a new generation without those unique Legendary Pokemon.

DXrobots May 15th, 2010 8:34 PM

a trio, Two or three mascots, and A super tiny legendary. what I hated about genereation 4 was they were so hard to distinguish:

Trio: Azelf, Mesprit, Uxie
Mascots: Giratina, Dialga, Palkia
Super legendary: Shaymin, Manaphy? Phinoe?
Where does that leave the rest?

I don't mind side quest legendaries but have make the stories decent like WTF was Heatran and Phione's story? They seem pretty useless

Dillon_68 May 15th, 2010 8:37 PM

Just legendaries that support the storyline of the game, no random legends like Cresselia or Heatran.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 15th, 2010 8:39 PM

I want 10 legends in this game, each legend requires a fun task and side quest, and each has it's own legend that revolves around them!

Timbjerr May 15th, 2010 8:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DXrobots (Post 5802568)
a trio, Two or three mascots, and A super tiny legendary. what I hated about genereation 4 was they were so hard to distinguish:


Hit the nail on the head there buddy. I mean, in GenI, we had Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres. Given the pretense that one was Ice-type, one was Electric-type, and one was Fire-type, it's not hard at all to match their appearance to their name and typing. The same with GenII's trio and GenIII's trio. In GenIV though, we had three Psychic-type pixies with little to distinguish them other than their coloration. D:

GoldvsRed May 15th, 2010 9:07 PM

So long as they at least give them back-stories, I'm good. I liked Heatran, but it just didn't seem Legendary enough... Its Pokedex entry made it seem less powerful than a Dragonair, even. It was just a strong Pokemon... We need more like Mewtwo, Ho-Oh, Arceus, and so on. We need to know exactly WHY they're so great to be called "Legendary."

EDIT: I forgot to mention Phione. Dear God, that was a pointless Pokemon. It was just a weaker Manaphy... That was it. C'mon, Game Freak, you could've done way better!

Ai May 15th, 2010 9:13 PM

I agree with there being too many legendaries in the previous generation >_>
Phione was completely unnecessary. Heatran in a volcano, sure... If they had a Darkrai there /had/ to be a Cresselia counterpart as well.

Please, just a legendary trio, two for the versions, one for the 'third' game (Black + White = Grey? xD), and /maybe/ one more but it has to have a story and not a runner or anything. D:

FreaKryptid May 15th, 2010 9:36 PM

Tis the irony of it all, Without legendaries there wouldnt be a game but if they had a whole bunch it would be to overwhelming. I to believe that there should be at least a trio and two others maybe one more but I dont like these events because not to many people ever do them. so just six would be enough.

Massai May 15th, 2010 9:44 PM

I'm putting money on seven legendary pokes. Three to mascot Black/White/Gray, a new Trio, and then the fancy event only poke that mascots the entire generation.

Chocos0 May 15th, 2010 10:12 PM

One trio + 2 event pokemon would be enough. The Sinnoh Region released too many legendaries, which created Ubers. So, 1 trio is good enough

Toxicroak May 15th, 2010 10:22 PM

If there is a legendary it needs to be small and lovable, theres to many uber strong, unlimited wrath pokemon.

loliwin May 15th, 2010 10:32 PM

At least all Sinnoh's legendaries werent considered Uber. That'd be hell! XD

I think they'll need seven legendaries. 4 of them will be considered Uber and the other 3 will be considered overused or borderlined, so they'd be as powerful as Metagross, Scizor, Salamence, Yanmega and the likes.

Rengoku May 15th, 2010 10:46 PM

Everyone's talking about legendaries being mascots, but it's not like it'll def. be 100% a legendary being mascot, yes?

hack1 May 15th, 2010 11:10 PM

Okay. We need:
-Mascot Trio
-Another trio
-Event legendary

That's all.

FloatingClouds May 16th, 2010 12:01 AM

Three main and about two subs, I mean you don't even need the subs, like I would not mind at all if it was only Dialga/Palkia and Giratina in the pearl/diamond and platinum versions, they should defiently make just four legends in this game, I mean what the need for so many?

Danikamakaze May 16th, 2010 12:07 AM

Soon we'll be filling a full PC box full of legendaries Dx

Thunderpunch May 16th, 2010 12:23 AM

There are enough legendaries. I say, put some old previously-unacquirable legendaries, such as Celebi, into Black and White so you don't need to go to events to get them. That way, people can add legendaries to their team that they've never had before, but the number of legendaries doesn't get any higher than it already is.

professor plum May 16th, 2010 12:32 AM

I like Legendary pokemon when they're given story and not ~random~. I like ingame events associated with them, and I like them to be epic and worthwhile.
I liked reading about them in the Canalave library, and I like the myth-ness associated with the Arceus plates. :<

So, yeah. More legends, more plot. n_n

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Soon we'll be filling a full PC box full of legendaries Dx
I already have one XD

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at least five? you mean AT THE MOST 5
follow the johto way
2 giant powerful legendaries
3 powerful normal sized legendaries

W-what?
There were more than that.
In GSC there were:
Ho-oh, Lugia, Suicune, Entei, Raikou, and Celebi.
In HG/SS there were:
Ho-oh, Lugia, Suicune, Entei, Raikou, Mewtwo, Articuno, Moltres, Zapdos, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga/Palkia/Giratina, and with wifi events: Latias/Latios. :[

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There are enough legendaries. I say, put some old previously-unacquirable legendaries, such as Celebi, into Black and White so you don't need to go to events to get them. That way, people can add legendaries to their team that they've never had before, but the number of legendaries doesn't get any higher than it already is.
They're events for a reason. :p
WiFi/Mystery Gift [like Gamestop/TRU/etc] events for all of the Event Only pokemon have or will take place in the near future. :p

Bluerang1 May 16th, 2010 1:09 AM

I was thinking, 3 Game mascots, a Trio and an Extra one for fun :P

But 5 would be good too.

Rich Boy Rob May 16th, 2010 3:08 AM

I think they should seriously cut down on the amount of legendaries. I mean Heatran, what the hell was the legend about that? It was created from lava. Great. Slugma IS lava for god's sake.

I think we should simply have:
1 Main Legendary (not necessarily a game mascot, RGBY had the starters for mascots)
A trio
1 event mini-legendary (AKA Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Shaymin)

And an extra one unavailable in the first 2 games, but the main legendary in the 3rd installment.

Also I think they need to extend the actual legends which makes them legendary. Heatran, Manaphy and Phione barely classed as legendary in my opinion. The Unown surpassed them in legendary status for god's sake.

Flare Riqueza May 16th, 2010 3:10 AM

I think we should have Darkrai and Cresselia, actually.

Then for the 2rd installment....Regigigas?

Sadly, it won't happen, but it'd be cool.

For example, Regigigas could destroy that bridge in Hiun City in the 3rd game...

Percy Thrillington May 16th, 2010 3:51 AM

The Legendaries in generation IV were just disappointing, really. To reiterate what a lot of you have said; there were way too many of them... but also, in comparison to previous generations, the Pokemon themselves; the backstory; the design; all seemed to be incredibly lazy and shallow. Unfulfilled, so to say. I'm praying with Black and White that Pokemon goes back to its roots and realised that five or six Legendaries (with thought put into them) is enough. And please, please realise that event Pokemon are a waste for a lot of people and that they completely screwed up the GTS in Diamond and Pearl. Let us be able to catch most of them in the game itself.

Wishful thinking, huh?

sampika08 May 16th, 2010 4:22 AM

Like in most. Two main, one ultra main, three special.
eg. Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Uxie, Mespirit, Azelf. No need for Cresselia/Heatran really, nor Arceus, Manaphy.

Looking at the above list I agree. Should be able to catch almost all the pokemon... and some of those made it difficult (which I dont mind). Its just the repetitiveness of catching all the pokemon the same way (rather than meeting them after a quest).

Mana May 16th, 2010 4:40 AM

A Legendary used to be that one Pokémon you could catch near the end to help you shoot through the Pokémon league ;)

I agree with most people that there should be a no legends or at least a lot less.

If they include something 'legendary' then we should hear about this legend :\ and from more than just one person! It doesn't really mean anything if a random guy tells you that <blahblah> did <blahblah> long ago...

JAK3 May 16th, 2010 4:44 AM

The only legendaries that would belong in the game, in my opinion, would be the two supporting legendaries. But when you have all these legendaries like Heatran, and Cresselia, and Uxie and all of them, then it makes me dislike Legendaries, even though I never liked them that much, except for the legendary birds and Mewtwo, I like Kyogre too.

LordDarkrai May 16th, 2010 5:12 AM

I think that they should slow down the number of legendary to 3 or 4 for this game.

Porygon Z May 16th, 2010 5:17 AM

Surely there will be a Trio of Legendary Pokèmon like always, the two exclusives of each version, maybe Zorua and Zoroark will be the first ever Male or Female Legendaries Pokèmon.
Also another five-six as usual.

~Wind~ May 16th, 2010 6:22 AM

I say do it Hoenn style, one big awesome trio, one smaller duo and a few minor legendaries dotted about.

Wind

EDIT: just counted the legendaries i n Gen IV: 14, seriously, there are 14 legendaries in Gen IV, WAY too many!

BeachBoy May 16th, 2010 8:49 AM

If they do happen to add a lot of legendaries, I want them to flood us with history behind them. I want to feel more back-story, or plot, to these guys. Not just some one-liners or something. :[

Mew~ May 16th, 2010 9:00 AM

I wouldn't mind really! I enjoy all the events and if you can't get to one thats not game freaks fault! I want at least 2-5 ledgenderies though! This is a new region we are talking about, loads of new pokes and region myths and ledgends n' stuff xD

Vrai May 16th, 2010 9:23 AM

How about we try for none? DPPt had enough legendaries to cover like four generations. I'd much rather have a nostalgia trip back to RBY and see the starters on the cover. I mean, if anything, have a central legendary or two, but that's it. Maybe something related to a plot? :0

The Cynic May 16th, 2010 9:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vrai (Post 5804150)
How about we try for none? DPPt had enough legendaries to cover like four generations. I'd much rather have a nostalgia trip back to RBY and see the starters on the cover. I mean, if anything, have a central legendary or two, but that's it. Maybe something related to a plot? :0


While I agree with you, it is unfortunately a pipe dream. Nintendo have to draw in the people whose idea of fun is Action Replay-ing a shiny Darkrai to level 100 and just rampaging through the story with a motley crew of ubers.

Those who play the game "properly" will still buy it regardless of what is on the cover.

NatureKeeper May 16th, 2010 9:37 AM

More.

More challenges, more fun.

The Cynic May 16th, 2010 9:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NatureKeeper (Post 5804188)
More.

More challenges, more fun.


The obtaining of the likes of Manaphy, Phione, Darkrai, Arceus, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Regigigas, Celebi, Deoxys, Jirachi etc. in Gen IV alone is not a challenge. It's just a pain. You'd get more satisfaction if there was only one legendary. Do you remeber catching your first Mewtwo in RBY? Felt good didn't it? Because you had to wade through that dungeon of high-leveled pokes and also because it was the only legendary (Mew is just frustrating). It isn't a challenge to turn up to a Toys R Us. There should, IMO, only be 1 main legendary catchable per game. Plus, to keep with tradition, a legendary trio (eg. Lake guadrians, legendary birds etc.). That makes the games better. But hey, that's only my two cents.

blue May 16th, 2010 10:11 AM

I think the designs of the Legendaries are getting abit out of hand;




http://sites.google.com/site/rizardonwifi/rizardon-news/pokemondiamondandpearlshayminevent/Shaymin%20Sky%20Forme.png

I think they have enough legendaries already.

coconutberry May 16th, 2010 4:53 PM

I don't mind legendaries, I just hope that there aren't too many. Sinnoh was just ridiculous... 13? Seriously?

In my opinion, there will probably be...

-Three mascots for Black/White and the third game
-A trio
-Two or three "roaming" legendaries like the Beasts or Latios/Latias
-A really cute one like Celebi or Manaphy (which may be combined with one of the previous catagories)
-Some sort of event Pokemon

...Honestly, though, I don't care about legendaries anyway. I prefer to use common Pokemon, thanks.

A Pixy May 16th, 2010 4:55 PM

I never really cared for the legendaries. The Dragon, Bird, Beast, Golem and Weather trios never really interested me.

Agent Clank May 16th, 2010 5:04 PM

ok I want more Legendaries.
and I think they should make a Bug Legendary.
It be a Giant Ant named Antlor of Antlord.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 16th, 2010 5:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Clank (Post 5805676)
ok I want more Legendaries.
and I think they should make a Bug Legendary.
It be a Giant Ant named Antlor of Antlord.

A bug legendary sounds like a excellent Idea it could be a gigantic ancient bug... because believe it or not bugs in the past were humongous that they make us look like bugs:shocked:.

Pikataro May 16th, 2010 5:12 PM

I sure hope they only have about three or four more legendaries. After Sinnoh, I'm sick of so many! Bring on the normal Pokemon, we need more! Besides, I'm not getting Black and White until 2011.....

mikey May 16th, 2010 5:17 PM

I don't have a problem with legendaries, I just hope they keep the amount of legendaries for this generation under control. I think the max amount should be like 4, maybe 5.

Pikataro May 16th, 2010 5:19 PM

I agree, Toshiro. Not like, 15, and all from events.

TheAppleFreak May 16th, 2010 5:52 PM

6 legendaries. One uber for each version of the game (Black, White, and Grey?), and then a trio of OU legendaries like the Golem trio, the Beast trio, and the Lake trio. Everything else, like Heatran and Shaymin and whatnot, would be uber-rare pseudolegendaries.

ANARCHit3cht May 16th, 2010 7:44 PM

I think that they should keep it low, but it mainly matters if the legendary has good back story or not. Also, they make legendaries that don't need be legendaries/shouldn't be. Like... Shaymin. In the Anime, there was field of them or whatever. So.. yeah :/

Vrai May 16th, 2010 8:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcissus Secret (Post 5806230)
I think that they should keep it low, but it mainly matters if the legendary has good back story or not. Also, they make legendaries that don't need be legendaries/shouldn't be. Like... Shaymin. In the Anime, there was field of them or whatever. So.. yeah :/

I would like to correct you by changing your *insert pointless legendary here* to Phione. Nothing is more pointless than that. ):

Candy May 16th, 2010 10:42 PM

For me, we're getting more legendary Pokemon every gen. I would rrather like it if there is at least:

- a trio which has a role in the game [No point with the Regis...]
- a set of 3 as game mascots
- an event legend

If GF is going to go create lots of event legendaries, then prepare for a whooping amount of Pokemon movies

Redrup May 16th, 2010 11:31 PM

Can't say it really bothers me too much. I never use legendaries in my teams. I don't even think I did back on RBY when I was too young for a moral high ground.

~Azure- May 16th, 2010 11:34 PM

I don't want a spam of legendaries again :\.5 Maximum simple as that.

Weber May 17th, 2010 12:07 AM

i hope there arent to many becuase if there are alot does that mean they are really legendary, i mean think about it, if there are 11 legendaries are they really legends or just mythic pokemon? or just really rare, any one get my point?


have 3 legendaries to be different, let the starters be on black and white and let gray or rainbow or what ever they're going to call it have the "uber" legend.

the reason i say rainbow might be the third one is that black is color and white is void of color, and rainbow has everything, idk just saying, when they had red and blue they didnt make purple did they?

Guillermo May 17th, 2010 12:22 AM

Only legendary Pokemon I've ever really liked are Latias, Latios and Suicune. So meh, don't really care how many they make.

xDaisuke0 May 17th, 2010 4:15 AM

This game seems...pure. Dark/Light Black/White so just TWO contrasting Legendaries are perfect here...

Swinoob May 17th, 2010 4:44 AM

Unfortunately, I figure that Game Freak will try to make more and more legendaries every time a new game comes out, like Manaphy and Phione, which were really just sales boosters for the Pokemon Ranger series. Legendaries are supposed to be few and scarce. If they release as many new legendaries as they did in the Fourth Generation, that will no longer be the case.

vibratingcat May 17th, 2010 4:45 AM

dont rly mind about legendaries. make an awesome dark legendary and i'll b happy. (one that doesnt require events, godamit darkrai....)

Porygon Z May 17th, 2010 4:48 AM

Think about this...

I Gen: 5 Legendaries
II Gen: 6 Legendaries
III Gen: 10 Legendaries
IV Gen: 14 Legendaries

For a total of 35 Legendaries.

I hope that V Gen doesn't have more Legendaries than IV.
Just hope that we CAN'T arrive at 50 Legendaries or similar :D

Wings Don't Cry May 17th, 2010 4:50 AM

I'd say the more the merrier then we have more to do in the game but don't make it retarded like the Regis. I actually want some plot and interaction with people when I go after a side quest legendary and I don't want 5 roaming ones in one game either.

Cherrim May 17th, 2010 5:10 AM

I think it'd be weird if they had no legendaries but ugh, not another case of 15 in a game. That is not fun. :/ I got sick of them in Gen 4 because they were all over. It wasn't mysterious or even interesting to catch a Legendary Pokémon anymore--it's more annoying than exciting. The ones that show up in the main plot are fine, and I didn't mind the other ones too much, but then you have Manaphy, Regigigas, Giratina (in D/P), Shaymin, Darkrai, etc. who had no story to go along with them (unless you got the items via Mystery Gift which they didn't do until what, last year?). I just thought it was ridiculous. Also SO MANY ROAMING ONES. Stop artificially extending the game by making me spend hours chasing a Legendary I don't even want. >_>

I'd be fine with the typical group of 3, one "exclusive" for each version, and then one final one they can concentrate on for the inevitable third game in the trio. Anything more will be overkill.

Alas, I expect there'll be as many or more legendaries than gen 4 had, if trends are to be followed. :/

Shiny Quagsire May 17th, 2010 5:49 AM

My answer? NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

Just use old legendaries, or none at all! RGBY Never used pokemon that were legendaries as the main pokemon! Never!
If they decide to use legendaries, use like cresselia and darkrai or croagunk and snorunt!

Shiari Xero May 17th, 2010 7:36 AM

I personally like the legends. They are fun to play with, and collect, and just have. And other than the normal gameplay, i dont use legends anywhere else (such as the metagame, since they ruin it). I dont think they should stop making legends just because some people will cry and quit the metagame cause they are there. Its a game, which Legendary pokemon happen to be a staple of. I love all the back stories to the legends, like Ho-oh and Lugias towers, the legendary beasts getting brought back to life by ho-oh. I also love how deep the story of Sinnohs pokemon was, The dragon trio, the lake trio, and then the legends you get through events.

I say more, just because it adds more to the story line, and it makes the game more enjoyable. Not because some noobs want to use the legends to try and pwn everything in the metagame. Think about the story yo.

Porygon-Z May 17th, 2010 7:47 AM

I was under the impression that they were just recycling the legendary dogs for this game's legendaries.

Sammuthegreat May 17th, 2010 7:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunderpunch (Post 5803112)
There are enough legendaries. I say, put some old previously-unacquirable legendaries, such as Celebi, into Black and White so you don't need to go to events to get them. That way, people can add legendaries to their team that they've never had before, but the number of legendaries doesn't get any higher than it already is.

100% agree. Best suggestion I've seen on this thread. I live in the UK so I've never been able to get hold of event Pokemon, which just seems unfair really. It'd be ok if the Legendaries were really really rare but I still had a mathematical chance, however small, of catching them; but I'm not going to fly to the USA to get one Pokemon, so I'm losing out really, and there's nothing I can do about it.

Also, 14 Legendaries - or however many there were in Sinnoh - is just ridiculous. Weren't there only just over 100 new Pokemon added in Gen IV? That means more than 1 in 10 Gen IV Pokemon was Legendary... Completely devalues their legendary status when they're so numerous.

My two cents: have starters on the box, or two "standard-bearer" Pokemon - like Lucario and Munchlax were for Gen IV. Then have 2 main legendaries and a trio - preferably something new like Bug, Fighting and Rock. Then MAYBE a third main legendary for the Gen V Platinum equivalent.

Rich Boy Rob May 17th, 2010 8:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sammuthegreat (Post 5807168)
My two cents: have starters on the box, or two "standard-bearer" Pokemon - like Lucario and Munchlax were for Gen IV. Then have 2 main legendaries and a trio - preferably something new like Bug, Fighting and Rock. Then MAYBE a third main legendary for the Gen V Platinum equivalent.

Good idea. I don't really think having the starters would work as they have nothing to do with the titles, but perhaps Zoroark & *insert as yet unreleased Psychic type*, as they would be Dark & (effectively) Light type.

Okami Chi May 17th, 2010 8:47 AM

I want legends, but as you stated; not to the point that they are coming out our ears.

dooxer May 17th, 2010 9:46 AM

what would be simples and most original would be to ONLY have the three elemetal things, actually make them powerfull, give them a catch rate of like 3 (rayquaza) and... you can only get one of them per version.

ALWAYS I have devalued the elemental trio since you can get them all, anytime you like. I'm thinking that being able to catch only one element in a game would triple the value of the complete set.
And DONT RECYCLE OLD TRIOS!!!!! I'll bet you can do some timemachine-trade thing again to get all the other legendaries you want. There are enough lol.

GlitchCity May 17th, 2010 12:37 PM

Actually most of the "legendaries" introduced in generation IV werent really classified as legendary :\ I just call them really rare pokemon.

For this generation it should be the sub-trio, the main 2 legendaries, and the 3rd installment of the legendaries. And maybe 1 or 2 event legendaries (hopefully it could unlock something more than just a route, maybe a new sub-region, sevii islands anyone?)

Blubber300 May 17th, 2010 5:34 PM

A good setup for me would be this:
light and dark type legendaries (hopefully available in both games like in HGSS)
a "cute" legendary
3 or 4 movie legendaries over WIFI
a crystal onix for an orange island-related sidequest (fingers crossed)
a monster-like legendary (kind of like darkrai) for the 3rd game to focus on

Kenaku May 17th, 2010 5:38 PM

In Sinnoh you have 'THE CREATER OF THE EFFIN' UNIVERSE'! *cough* Sorry, but seriously, how can you get much more powerful than God, basically?

BW should just have the local legends.

deathrider24 May 17th, 2010 7:10 PM

There should be three main ones and one super mega death one like Deoxys or Mewtwo.

Cyberglass May 17th, 2010 7:37 PM

I'm all for less legendaries, but if the past games are any indication the bare minimum GameFreak would even consider adding is 7: three mascots, the lesser "legendary trio", and at least one cute event pokemon. I hope it stops here, or with maybe one more in-game legend, but there is no way they would ever add any less.

Astinus May 17th, 2010 8:03 PM

I really don't care about the amount, but I do want more back story for whatever ones they do introduce. The ones in Sinnoh weren't too memorable because there was nothing to make them "real", in the sense of the Pokemon world. No amazing stories, like the Legendary Beasts, Ho-Oh, and the Burned Tower. Just a simple throwaway line that didn't even strike those who read it with the Pokemon's power.

And whatever legendaries there are, no more wandering ones. It just took forever to find one, and once you find it and catch it, it's not even one of those great ones anymore. It's more of an annoyance than a challenge. Same with the events.

I do hope that whatever legendaries there are, that there's the basic backbone of previous generations (the trios and the "mascots") and of course the back stories that make them deserving of the legendary title.

Vrai May 17th, 2010 8:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Porygon-Z (Post 5807156)
I was under the impression that they were just recycling the legendary dogs for this game's legendaries.

No, the shiny legendary dogs are received by going to see that one movie or something in Japan. Doubtful that they'd be used as the actual legendaries.

Niprop May 17th, 2010 9:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamilton (Post 5802236)
at least five? you mean AT THE MOST 5
follow the johto way
2 giant powerful legendaries
3 powerful normal sized legendaries


You forgot Celebi.

Anyways, I'd say several at most would balance things out enough, as Pokemon without much of a back-story (looking at you, Heatran) could easily be reused, and Darkrai/Cresselia seem to match the Dark/Light theme as well, though certainly not as the "main" legendaries of the game.

WeissRaben May 18th, 2010 2:39 AM

I miss the good old times in which you found elements of every legendary pokemon all over the game. RBY: the Birds seen from the routes and the whole concept of the Cinnabar Mansion, for example. GSC: the two towers and the Forest Shrine. RSE started slipping a bit: serious background for the main trio, and meh appearances for the others. Same for DPP: but here, 3/14 is quite a low quality rate. The other trio is well named, but as others said...well they are identical.

So yes. Back to old time, 5 legendaries with a solid background plz?

Mudkipzrock May 18th, 2010 7:13 AM

I want 9 legendaries
MAKING SURE THEY HAVE GOOD STORY LINES
NOT LIKE D/P

3 will be a land trio like The dogs
3 will be a sky/air trio like the birds
AND A Super Cool 70 lvs Rayquaze, Kyogre And Groudon types
Like Land, Ocean And Sky
Lithosphere Hydrosphere Atmosphere :)

TheNewRocketMovement May 18th, 2010 7:15 AM

"Now legendary means nothing to me, because one of a kind creatures add up to over thirty"

Lady Weavile May 18th, 2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WeissRaben
I miss the good old times in which you found elements of every legendary pokemon all over the game. RBY: the Birds seen from the routes and the whole concept of the Cinnabar Mansion, for example. GSC: the two towers and the Forest Shrine. RSE started slipping a bit: serious background for the main trio, and meh appearances for the others. Same for DPP: but here, 3/14 is quite a low quality rate. The other trio is well named, but as others said...well they are identical.

Agree. I love legends around Legendary Pokémon. If Game Freak makes Legendaries that don't have a serious role in the games, they seem so pointless. It's only a device to make the new Generation more "cool" as the previous. Commercial.

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Originally Posted by Cyberglass
I'm all for less legendaries, but if the past games are any indication the bare minimum GameFreak would even consider adding is 7: three mascots, the lesser "legendary trio", and at least one cute event pokemon. I hope it stops here, or with maybe one more in-game legend, but there is no way they would ever add any less.

I'm afraid this is the hard reality.

seeker May 18th, 2010 10:57 AM

I always wondered how Arceus was going to be surpassed. I didn't think that there would be any more pokemon after it. It would only make sense that there wouldn't be, but in any case, I'm looking forward to seeing how many will be introduced this time around. I love the fact that there is once again, evolving legendaries in the Zoro's, it in many ways, adds more depth to pokemon. "Are we to believe that pokemon who haven't evolved are perfect beings?" - which was said about legendary pokemon, but the fact that we have Phione and now Zoroak, means that that statement can be contradicted.

For me, I like the stories linked behind the legendary pokemon as much as I do the actual pokemon themselves. The Red Chain involving the trio; Uxie, Azelf and Mespirit, is personally one of my favourite legends. Possibly why I liked Gen.4 so much, I enjoy the myths and stories behind the legendary pokemon rather than just thinking of them as "stronger" pokemon.

I hope to see a handfull of legendaries in B&W, not as much as what were in D/P/P but something to just make the game more interesting. I think they'll really have to step their game up to surpass what D/P/P had in the line of the legendary pokemon and their influence on the plot.

Angelroid May 18th, 2010 11:04 AM

Please, No more then 4 legendaries.

Rich Boy Rob May 18th, 2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Abnegation (Post 5809711)
I love the fact that there is once again, evolving legendaries in the Zoro's, it in many ways, adds more depth to pokemon. "Are we to believe that pokemon who haven't evolved are perfect beings?" - which was said about legendary pokemon, but the fact that we have Phione and now Zoroak, means that that statement can be contradicted.

Why is it everyone seems to think Zoroark is legendary? I mean I thought it was pretty obvious that it was unlikely to be a legendary. It's basically Lucario MK II, introduced early on, starred in a movie and had it's pre-evo announced immediately after.

seeker May 18th, 2010 11:14 AM

I was sure the Zoro's were legendary after hearing of it's appearance in the movie, seems I was ill-informed. Well in that case scratch that.

After seeing the Zoro's though, I have high expectations for the legendary designs if they're only regular pokemon, even if Zoroark does look somewhat like Lucario.

Demigod May 18th, 2010 11:20 AM

I hate legendaries that are not from Gen 1&2.

If only it wasn't about the money, they wouldn't ruin the show with all the crappy new generations.

BleuVII May 18th, 2010 1:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Boy Rob (Post 5809741)
Why is it everyone seems to think Zoroark is legendary? I mean I thought it was pretty obvious that it was unlikely to be a legendary. It's basically Lucario MK II, introduced early on, starred in a movie and had it's pre-evo announced immediately after.

I agree. I don't think that Zoroark is legendary, though I wouldn't mind it being a mascot.

And there is a huge debate over whether or not Heatran is even Legendary. It's allowed into the Battle Tower, for goodness sakes. Also, I thought Cresselia/Darkrai were good ideas, but they just looked... stupid. I would never put them on a box cover.

I agree with what most people have said.
Have 2-3 mascots, one trio, and 1-2 special pokemon.

Samme! May 18th, 2010 1:53 PM

Honestly, as long as aren't any old legends, I wouldn't care how many Legendary Pokemon Game Freak decided to place in Isshu. Legendaries most definitely fuel the plot lines of the games and I feel like if there were only a few legends, let's say 4, there would just be something missing. That said, I'm not an advocator of creating every single kind of legendary possible, I just want there to be numerous and creative legendaries that can have an interesting story line behind them to make a better playing experience. So all in all, I'm fine with legendaries, as long as they aren't being reused from past generations. n3n

Charizard632 May 18th, 2010 3:13 PM

Oh yes. There will be legendaries. However, there will only be 7 legendaries.

Kanto- 5 Legendaries
Johto- 6 Legendaries
Hoenn- 10 Legendaries
Sinnoh- 13 Legendaries

The chart is not constant, but it is growing until now!

5th Generation Region- 7 Legendaries.

The First one can revive things that are already dead. It can even turn meat into an animal!
The Second one can restore items that are either broken or destroyed. However, it can't restore things that are bigger than 1000 cubic feet. (Examples: A Nintendo DS, A Television, A File Cabinet, A computer (It can even restore data!), Wooden Furniture)
The Third one however can restore items that are bigger than 1000 cubic feet. (Examples: A house, A school, A skyscraper)
This trio is responsible for restoring life and posessions after natural disasters occour.

Main Legendaries

The Main Legendary for Pokemon Black Version is a Satan like pokemon.

Type: Fire/Dark

HP: 100
Attack: 170
Defense: 70
Sp. Atk: 130
Sp. Def: 70
Speed: 140

The other legendary, however, is a pokemon just like God, but not Arceus.

HP: 100
Attack: 70
Defense: 130
Sp. Atk: 70
Sp. Def: 170
Speed: 140

The cute legendary looks like Kirlia, only more elegant, smaller, and charming.

Stats are all 100, just like the other cute legendaries

The ultra-uber legendary pokemon is named Arceoxes. Its 2 abilities are Multitype and Energy Restore, an ability where if the PP level drops down to 1, that move's PP is fully restored. It only has 1 move. Judgement.

Stats

HP: 1
Attack: 1
Defense: 1
Sp. Atk: 300
Sp. Def: 1
Speed: 300

It is indestructable, unless you or Arceoxes does this.

1. Arceoxes holds the life orb
2. Arceoxes has a status problem
3. Arceoxes enters an entry hazard like Spikes
4. You use an attack that always goes first (Quick Attack)
5. Arceoxes misses its attack, or fails its attack.
6. Arceoxes didn't wipe out the pokemon completely (This may happen if Arceoxes's attack is not very effective against the opponent and the foe has a great Special Defense and/or HP)
7. A double battle where Arceoxes is teamed up with a slow or weak pokemon (The opponent will always aim for Arceoxes)

WeissRaben May 19th, 2010 6:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Samme! (Post 5810254)
Honestly, as long as aren't any old legends, I wouldn't care how many Legendary Pokemon Game Freak decided to place in Isshu. Legendaries most definitely fuel the plot lines of the games and I feel like if there were only a few legends, let's say 4, there would just be something missing. That said, I'm not an advocator of creating every single kind of legendary possible, I just want there to be numerous and creative legendaries that can have an interesting story line behind them to make a better playing experience. So all in all, I'm fine with legendaries, as long as they aren't being reused from past generations. n3n

Yes...WHEN they fuel the plot. How the Regis do that, though? And Latios and Latias (which, I'll have to admit, are cool nevertheless)? And Cresselia, and Darkrai, and Phione and Manaphy and Deoxis and what do you want?
Legendaries ARE good. But please (and Arceus?), WHY should you catch random legends around that do nothing but wait for you to come and catch them?

DarcyBangBang May 19th, 2010 11:17 AM

There are like no events where I am >.<
And I really hope they dont make MORE legendary pokemon
Like out of 450 pokemon how many of them are "Legendary" >.>
Like maybe 15% of them?


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