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The entire point of the following post rests fully on Pokemon designs and no other aspect of the Pokemon game.
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Either way, I understand that people have their opinions and I certainly won't change them just as no one will make me believe that Gen III and Gen IV were terribly designed Pokemon wise. But I get bothered when people state how much they hate latter Pokemon because of their unimaginative design. I mean dislike them because they don't appeal to you personally but not because of a purely nostalgia stated opinion. Or if anything say that GF is getting lazy in their pokemon designs instead of, "they've run out of ideas." I think realistically and Pokemon wise that's pretty much impossible to do at this point. There ends my plee to the Pokemon community. :P |
i think they r running out of ideas. they put 2 much into gen 4. a god! but isshu is very far away. they might give mewtwo a story! its to early 2 pick.
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All pokemon have a specific look to them that makes them Pokemon. Some of the "fakemon" I've seen would never be able to fit into the species of Pokemon. It just doesn't have that feel to it. Look at Hoenn, the designs were completely different compared to Kanto and Johto, yet some resembled the old ones so it would still feel like Pokemon. Do you honestly expect there to be only one kind of butterfly or turtle in the world? There's many different species of animals. Many pokemon are based on animals. What if you like crabs and wanted a crab Pokemon? Do you really want to use a Krabby in every single Pokemon game? No, b/c you'll eventually get bored of it. So, now you have a Corphish that you like a lot better that has a better movepool and in your opinion a more awesome evolution. I mean, some of us get sick of using/seeing the same Pokemon over and over. (For example, Tentacool.) Doesn't anyone want a new jellyfish Pokemon to replace it that could have a much better movepool? Like maybe a Water/Psychic or a Water/Dark jellyfish? Or maybe a new bat to replace Zubat? I think bats are cool, but to be honest, I'm tired of Zubat and I already have an awesome Crobat. What if I wanted a team of bat Pokemon? Some people like Pidgey while others hate it so they use Swellow or Honchrow instead. The reason why some of the 4th gen designs were simple (ex. Bidoof) was because in first gen, many of the designs were simple. Hoenn drifted far away from Kanto/Johto in designs, so Sinnoh brought us back. However, Sinnoh also had some Pokemon that were drastically designed to fit in with Hoenn. Sinnoh gave us an excuse to go back and catch the original Pokemon to evolve them. Personally, I never fully played Red or Blue (hated Red's graphics), so I didn't get the opportunity to use the old Pokemon. My first game was Gold. When I got HGSS, I used the Pokemon that I haven't normally used when I first played Gold and Crystal versions. I think I remember reading that they only have a specific amount of time to come up with ideas (probably for the plot), and then whatever they don't get to use, they save it for the next game. |
I wouldn't say they're running out of ideas. I'm positive when taking a normal concept,they'll evolve it and make the concept more complex. I just hope their plot will change or at least add an extra storyline to make the game more thrilling than the original plot.
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Running out of ideas? Maybe, but I hope not. I do recall hearing a rumor that this could be the last generation though...so who knows. Though if this is just referring to the designs of the new pokemon, well everyone gen has had there share of pokemon..to put it nicely, aren't appealing to the average player. Though alot of those bias people that simply slander the new pokemon because they're new seem do do it because they dislike how bright and cheery they have become. back in first gen, with Red and Blue (and Green) Lots of the Pokemon sprites looked meaner and more dangerous then there modern counter part sprites. This personally doesn't bother me though.
As for lacking originality...well yes, I can kinda agree there. it does seem some newer Pokemon over the ears were release for the sake of releasing more pokemon. All for profit and marketing. As the generations have gone on, I have noticed my liking of the pokemon from each has been a decreasing number, but at the very least I do find some gems within each gen I end up really liking. and the fact I don't care for most the others the newer gens offer it doesn't stop me from playing or enjoying them. The same will probably go for Black and White as well. To be more direct about this thread, out of the five 5th gens that have been revealed... Zorua and Zoroark look like they'll be pretty cool, and as for the starters, the grass one looks alright, the fire has some amusing nicknames that comes to mind..and the water...well lets just say I don't expect it to be too popular Anyways thats my two cent son the matter, aside from I think the idea of fully animated battles to be pretty awesome. |
Some new pokemon in the newer games are very well invented...but
Alot more of the new pokemon arn't that great D: Now I've only seen a few of the new ones for black and white aswell, but it dosen't mean they're running out of ideas. I'm just hoping that this time around they're taking their time with the designs to make us some amazing pokemon. :> But that's what I beleive. |
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I think its not so much 'running out of ideas', as the game design is entering a new generation things are looking far different as would be expected, as does the new scenarios and characters, nothing to diss until we've actually played the games..
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Many of the points here are simply opinions, and opinions that have nothing to do with the question at hand. It's not "is gamefreak getting bad at designing Pokemon", it's "is gamefreak running out of ideas". Ideas, ideas, ideas. There are hundreds of thousands of species of animals or plants on the Earth, many with incredible diversity. There some hundreds of thousands of different species of animals alone. Of course, many might be similar, but you'd find some incredibly special ones in there. There are also thousands of genuses, and 1113 (according to Wiki) families as well. Families are quite different and individual families could well be diverse enough for individual Pokemon evolution lines. Even if many are similar (eg. Seagulls and ducks might be), there is still much room for animal-based Pokemon.
Of course, there must be dragons and mythological creatures; those can count for some 5-10 Pokemon outside of the Legendaries. |
I remember when Sinnoh came around i was like, those starters look weird.
But then when i got to playing the game i liked a lot of the new pokemon. I think people sometimes don't give the new pokes a chance. |
People are going to hate, but the diversity does not come only in their looks. It also comes in their type and their moves.
For instance, I could babble on all day about how weird Togepi looks and he's just a Normal Pokèmon and whatever, but then, surprise! Extrasensory. Just because they don't look that much different doesn't mean they aren't that much different. I think people will be pleasantly surprised. |
I've worried about whether ideas were running out, but I don't think it'll be a concern... Game Freak can always reuse past animals, implement unused ones, and create original concepts. So it'll probably be a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery (times infinity :)) long time before ideas are depleted. And if they ever do run out of ideas, there's always Fakemon. Seriously, have you seen the awesome Fakemon for Pokemon Garnet Version? http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=197142 |
How can anything resemble a digimon, a pokemons design is whatever you make it out to be. If i worked for gamefreak on the design crew and i drew a circle with "stickman" legs and it got approved, it would be a pokemon no matter how much it looks like a blob with lines sticking out of it!
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I don't think they're running out of ideas. o.o
I have to say, I don't really like the starter Pokemon for Black and White, but hey, I don't like how a bunch of other Pokemon look like. I think the only thing that they're "running out" of, is the names for the games. |
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Um, no. I don't think they're running out of ideas. At all.
What we've seen of gen V so far looks, to me, very unique. Pokémon constantly moving, yet still sprites? That epic 3D city? Older characters, one of them looking like a punk girl? Seriously awesome. Also, the Pokémon designs look great so far. |
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Sorry guys I think I got a little too worked up. :nervous: |
I'm sure they've still got some more ideas stored away somewhere. I mean, they're adding new elements to the game we've never even imagined, and I'm sure they're getting letters from special players adding ideas to the game that they considerate. Anything is possible.
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it's kinda obvious that the whole pokemon franchise has already ran out of ideas in general. IMHO the best game so far was emerald:quite fun, decently challenging, but most importantly it was fast paced. pokemon that show up only one a week wtf? the farther the games go the more they become like grinding sessions instead actual of games.
where it comes to pokemon they definitely stopped even trying: who cares? fanboys will eat up just about anything the second you put a pokemon stcker on it |
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You're entirely wrong. They series is far from running out of ideas. Just because you didn't like some features that it has, like Drifloon only showing up once a week doesn't mean that they're running out of ideas. Honestly you seem to have quite a snobbish attitude. The game developers only did that because Drifloon isn't meant to be an easy obtainable pkmn. I'd say that its like a medium-rare :D one. If you think they're running out of ideas why don't you try to make an entirely new game that upgrades on the features/pokemon we already have now and see how easy it is. No need to bash the developers when they've put a lot of effort into pleasing people (and obviously not everyone can be pleased). Still, there is plenty more to bring in it's just not here yet. I could think of plenty of things off the top of my head just don't feel like posting them. May I ask you a question, since you seem to love complaining about pkmn games becoming more like 'grind sessions' why would you still play them? I agree with you on Emerald being a good game though. It wasn't fast-paced IMHO. I don't think there is a specific amount of time to get through pokemon games (emerald or not). One person could zoom through in a few days and others like me just take their sweet time. |
I do. Kind of at least. A lot of the new generation 5 Pokemon remind me of Digimon which I hate with a passion. Let's hope all the new Pokemon are not like that.
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Not in the slightest.
Nostalgia. Also, the fact that they probably designed all of the Pokémon during the same period, or at least had a fair amount of overlap defeats the idea that they could be running out of ideas. I don't get why people seeing something they don't like = "OH MY GOD GAMEFREAK IS RUNNING OUT OF IDEAS POKEMON IS RUINED FOREVER." It's sad that this quote isn't even exaggerating. . . |
Over 500 Pokemon?
Of course they're running out of ideas. This is why they should hire more creative people to think some up. |
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