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Zeph. May 16th, 2010 7:37 AM

Let's talk about Gym leaders.
 
This should come as no surprise. 8 new gyms with leaders specializing in a certain type will be introduced with the new region.

What do you think/hope will happen with them? Maybe more challenging puzzles? Maybe just less puzzles and more battles? Fire away.

JAK3 May 16th, 2010 7:43 AM

I think we should finally see a Dark type gym, I would also like something besides a Rock gym as the 1st Gym, even though the Second Generation had Falkner, a flying type leader, Dark is the only one I can think of.

Massai May 16th, 2010 7:47 AM

The Gym Puzzles are ridiculous filler. I'd rather see more Gym Leader storyline involvement and the gyms should evolve beyond mono-type and mix it up a bit.

Arma May 16th, 2010 7:49 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing another ground type gym either. The first gym should be dark or normal, other types are too cool for the first gym XD

Edit: instead of just having them specialize in one type, why not have them be more specialized with certain fighting styles. One gym could be all offensive, while another prefers to inflict status moves.

Hamilton May 16th, 2010 7:50 AM

gym leaders should be more involved with the plot :)
but also- types i want to see (no particular order)
Grass
Flying
Dark
Normal
Fire
Ice
Psychic
Ground (or rock)

Zeph. May 16th, 2010 7:51 AM

I agree with the Dark Gym idea :P It could be the first way you see Zoroark (like Lucario in the Fighting gym for DPPt)

Samme! May 16th, 2010 7:58 AM

I think it's about time that a Dark Type gym is introduced into the Pokemon Universe, as dark types came about in the 2nd Generation, and it's already the 5th.. I'd also like to some gyms that haven't been used a lot, Dragon, Bug, Ground, per say. I really hope that there isn't going to be the obligatory Rock Type gym that comes first, but something spices things up like how things in the 2nd Gen were.
And regarding gym leaders, I definitely think that they need a more prominent role in the plots surrounding their city or town they reside in, which is how things are set in the Anime. This way we could get more plot set into the games while also getting to learn more about the gym leaders and have fun instead of just passing through some type of maze and then battling the leader. And since Gym Leader's are there to help the trainer out along their journeys, it would be cool if they showed up once and a while to give you some random item or tip, per say. I don't know, I just want to see more involvement really XD

ohsnapkid May 16th, 2010 8:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Massai (Post 5803853)
The Gym Puzzles are ridiculous filler. I'd rather see more Gym Leader storyline involvement and the gyms should evolve beyond mono-type and mix it up a bit.

I wholeheartedly agree. The puzzles are completely unnecessary and often an annoyance that drives your attention away from the actual battles. I'd be happy to see them removed altogether, or at worst, reduced to a point where they simply add some atmosphere to the gym (without being overbearing).

Vrai May 16th, 2010 8:13 AM

Dark-type gym would be nice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elarmasecreta (Post 5803859)
I wouldn't mind seeing another ground type gym either. The first gym should be dark or normal, other types are too cool for the first gym XD

Edit: instead of just having them specialize in one type, why not have them be more specialized with certain fighting styles. One gym could be all offensive, while another prefers to inflict status moves.

I thought that status moves was already covered back with Janine/Koga? I mean, the types themselves already have a certain style that they want to be played in so the gym leaders kind of already had a certain battling style. It would be better if that was expanded upon though. :3
Quote:

Originally Posted by Samme! (Post 5803884)
And regarding gym leaders, I definitely think that they need a more prominent role in the plots surrounding their city or town they reside in, which is how things are set in the Anime. This way we could get more plot set into the games while also getting to learn more about the gym leaders and have fun instead of just passing through some type of maze and then battling the leader. And since Gym Leader's are there to help the trainer out along their journeys, it would be cool if they showed up once and a while to give you some random item or tip, per say. I don't know, I just want to see more involvement really XD

A more prominent role for gym leaders would be pretty cool. The only leaders who ever really did anything outside of the box were Giovanni and Claire, really; those were the only ones who you actually really interacted with. The rest just feel like generic characters like the random trainers that fight you all the time. Even a random appearance to help you out or annoy you would give them personality and thus prominence.

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Originally Posted by ohsnapkid (Post 5803895)
I wholeheartedly agree. The puzzles are completely unnecessary and often an annoyance that drives your attention away from the actual battles. I'd be happy to see them removed altogether, or at worst, reduced to a point where they simply add some atmosphere to the gym (without being overbearing).

But there are other people who like the battles less and the puzzle-related aspects more. Nintendo's got to keep the balance between the people who like one aspect of the game and the people who like another; I doubt they'll remove the puzzles ever. Besides, I like those. ):

Massai May 16th, 2010 8:17 AM

If you prefer the puzzles to the battles you are a) playing the wrong game and b) need to invest in some Tetris Time so you can become sharp enough to move on to better puzzles then rotating blocks to get from one ledge to another.

The Cynic May 16th, 2010 8:18 AM

I'm going to go along with the croud here and say please, please, please let there be a Dark-type gym and please, please, please may the first type not be Rock. Rock should come in 5th or 6th to give it a chance to shine because it dosn't necessarily need to be a noobish type. Look at Brock in HG/SS.

I would like more intricate and extravagant gym puzzles and designs like the ones in Platinum and in HG/SS. I think they should stick with monotype as it gives the gym more structure. A mixture would just get monotonous. The gym leaders can still have themes and gimmicks of course (eg. Whitney uses cute pokemon etc.). I do like the idea of gym leaders taking more prominence in the storyline though. I mean, why didn't Sabrina just destroy Team Rocket herself istead of just sitting back while they took over the city?

Timbjerr May 16th, 2010 8:29 AM

Gyms need to keep their type themes, but the leaders don't necessarily need to have monotype teams. Throw in one pokemon of a different type to deal with pokemon that can normally wall the rest of the team. (such as an electric gym leader using a water type to deal with n00bs that think they can wall him with a ground-type, and possibly set up a rain dance/thunder combo or something).

I think we need a Dark-type gym pretty badly, and bug-type, poison-type, ground-type, and dragon-type gyms need to be brought back. :P

BeachBoy May 16th, 2010 8:33 AM

First off I think the gym leaders should incorporate more of a strategy than mindlessly abusing the same type. Like Timbjerr said, throw in one of another time.

I think we need another steel-type gym with something other than Steelix abuse, but that's unlikely. :(

Lord Varion May 16th, 2010 8:57 AM

If there is another
Rock/Water gyms
i will kill myslef

Sweet Smoochum May 16th, 2010 9:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 5803963)
Gyms need to keep their type themes, but the leaders don't necessarily need to have monotype teams. Throw in one pokemon of a different type to deal with pokemon that can normally wall the rest of the team. (such as an electric gym leader using a water type to deal with n00bs that think they can wall him with a ground-type, and possibly set up a rain dance/thunder combo or something).

I think we need a Dark-type gym pretty badly, and bug-type, poison-type, ground-type, and dragon-type gyms need to be brought back. :P

I like your ideas. I agree with you on the type gyms that should be included. I'd also like a Fire Type gym with a red haired female as the gym leader. With the fire type gym, the Pokemon can have electric/grass moves to counteract against water/ground Pokemon. For example, she can use a Vulpix/Ninetales with Energy Ball, Dark Pulse, Safeguard, and Flamethrower.

I'd also like the return of rematches.

Samme! May 16th, 2010 9:23 AM

Looking at what Lily said above, I definitely want the return of Gym Leader Rematches as well. But the thing is, in HG/SS I feel that the whole process of re-battling a Gym Leader was too complex and confusing, even if it did provide some sort of challenge. I liked the simplicity of the Trainer Café in Platinum and how each leader came in randomly. So I hope something like that will be implemented.

I wouldn't mind if we could re-battle them in their own gym, as well.

sampika08 May 16th, 2010 9:27 AM

Okay :-
Rock/Ground
Fire
Water/Ice
Electric
Flying
Psychic/Ghost
Grass/Poison/Bug
Dragon
Dark
Steel
Fighting
So 8 of those *although they always combine types for gyms.
1st- Rock
2nd- Flying
3rd-Fighting/Ground
4th-Dark/Psychic
5th- Water
6th- Grass/Bug/Poison
7th- Electric
8th- I quite like - like Gary - a mixture of them all.

Charmageddon May 16th, 2010 9:39 AM

Let's see, these are the number of gyms that each type has:

Rock: 3 (Pewter, Rustboro, Oreburgh)
Fighting: 3 (Cianwood, Dewford, Veilstone)
Electric: 3 (Vermillion, Mauville, Sunnyshore)
Water: 3 (Cerulean, Sootopolis, Pastoria)

Grass: 2 (Celadon, Eterna)
Fire: 2 (Cinnabar, Lavaridge)
Ghost: 2 (Eurecteak, Hearthome)
Psychic: 2 (Saffron, Mossdeep)
Ice: 2 (Mahogany, Snowpoint)
Steel: 2 (Olivine, Canaclave)
Flying: 2 (Violet, Fortree)
Normal: 2 (Goldenrod, Petalburg)

Bug: 1 (Azalea)
Dragon: 1 (Blackthorn)
Ground: 1 (Viridian)
Poison: 1 (Fuschia)

Dark: 0

I think that Dark is a definite, GF would have to be brain-dead to leave it out again. It'll probably be a late gym as Dark-types are generally quite strong and a Dark-type leader is likely to use complex tactics, though it could work as an early gym. I think we are very likely to see Bug, Dragon, Ground and Poison as we've only had one of each, and none in the last two generations. I'd like to see a late Bug gym and an early Dragon gym, that would be interesting, people would think Bug=weak and Dragon=strong, but a gym leader with Heracross, Scizor and the like would shut them up. Although we did just have a Bug E4 member, so maybe a middle gym is more likely for Bug.

We're unlikely to see any of the gyms that already have 3 to their name, that would be overkill. So we have the 8 with 2, competing for 3 spaces. It could be any of them, but logic hopes that we won't see any of the same gyms we saw in the last generation, therefore it'll be 3 of Fire, Psychic, Flying and Normal. Now Psychic has been overdone all around, with 2 E4 members to its name, but I suspect we might well see a Flying and/or Normal-type E4 member, as they, along with Grass, are the only types not yet represented in the E4, and so are unlikely to have a gym as well.

Of course, this is all assuming that they keep to the monotyped gym formula. It's likely that they will, but this generation does seem to be different from the others in many ways, and we keep getting the message that these games will be different from any other game before, so anything is possible.

This is also assuming that GF have a shred of logic to their name, which is debatable.

So, my top three wishes:

1) Dark-type gym, 'nuff said.
2) No Fighting-type gym leader OR E4 member please. So far we've had 2 E4 members and 3 and a half gyms. That's quite enough, thank you.
3) Please, god please, no Rock gym. And if there is what, can it not be the first gym? We've done it three times already, any more would be simply ridiculous. It's boring, repetitive and uninspired, and we've had enough of it.

blue May 16th, 2010 9:58 AM

I'd like it to be COMPLETELY different i.e

Psychic
Fire
Dragon
Steel
Water
Grass
Bug
Dark

I really want a Dark type gym leader

tvoza2 May 16th, 2010 10:04 AM

i think we'll definatly see a dark type gym, but there's a strong possibility for a new type. probably a space type, because who really belives the gaurdians of time and space should be steel (even though dialga's my favorite ledgend) and water combos?

Waffle-San May 16th, 2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Charmageddon (Post 5804194)
Let's see, these are the number of gyms that each type has:

Rock: 3 (Pewter, Rustboro, Oreburgh)
Fighting: 3 (Cianwood, Dewford, Veilstone)
Electric: 3 (Vermillion, Mauville, Sunnyshore)
Water: 3 (Cerulean, Sootopolis, Pastoria)

Grass: 2 (Celadon, Eterna)
Fire: 2 (Cinnabar, Lavaridge)
Ghost: 2 (Eurecteak, Hearthome)
Psychic: 2 (Saffron, Mossdeep)
Ice: 2 (Mahogany, Snowpoint)
Steel: 2 (Olivine, Canaclave)
Flying: 2 (Violet, Fortree)
Normal: 2 (Goldenrod, Petalburg)

Bug: 1 (Azalea)
Dragon: 1 (Blackthorn)
Ground: 1 (Viridian)
Poison: 1 (Fuschia)

Dark: 0

I think that Dark is a definite, GF would have to be brain-dead to leave it out again. It'll probably be a late gym as Dark-types are generally quite strong and a Dark-type leader is likely to use complex tactics, though it could work as an early gym. I think we are very likely to see Bug, Dragon, Ground and Poison as we've only had one of each, and none in the last two generations. I'd like to see a late Bug gym and an early Dragon gym, that would be interesting, people would think Bug=weak and Dragon=strong, but a gym leader with Heracross, Scizor and the like would shut them up. Although we did just have a Bug E4 member, so maybe a middle gym is more likely for Bug.

We're unlikely to see any of the gyms that already have 3 to their name, that would be overkill. So we have the 8 with 2, competing for 3 spaces. It could be any of them, but logic hopes that we won't see any of the same gyms we saw in the last generation, therefore it'll be 3 of Fire, Psychic, Flying and Normal. Now Psychic has been overdone all around, with 2 E4 members to its name, but I suspect we might well see a Flying and/or Normal-type E4 member, as they, along with Grass, are the only types not yet represented in the E4, and so are unlikely to have a gym as well.

Of course, this is all assuming that they keep to the monotyped gym formula. It's likely that they will, but this generation does seem to be different from the others in many ways, and we keep getting the message that these games will be different from any other game before, so anything is possible.

This is also assuming that GF have a shred of logic to their name, which is debatable.

So, my top three wishes:

1) Dark-type gym, 'nuff said.
2) No Fighting-type gym leader OR E4 member please. So far we've had 2 E4 members and 3 and a half gyms. That's quite enough, thank you.
3) Please, god please, no Rock gym. And if there is what, can it not be the first gym? We've done it three times already, any more would be simply ridiculous. It's boring, repetitive and uninspired, and we've had enough of it.

You covered it quite nicely. :P Generally I think the puzzles in the gym are well justified and should remain, you're getting a gym badge, be prepared to work for it.

I too am hoping for a Dark gym and no first time around rock gym.

My other idea was to make gyms part of the terrain, so instead of having to enter a building you have to climb a mountain!! Wild pokemon battle included!! That way you could even return to the gym to train!!

Hantsuki May 16th, 2010 10:48 AM

I kind of want something completely different. Not just another elemental type gym leader specialty, but actually a gym leader who has a team of another type. For example, how Falkner specialized in bird types (which is obviously flying), but I would like to have what I think would be called a "species" leader. For example, like that bird idea, they could have a canine leader (Pokemon that resemble dogs) or a feline leader (Pokemon that resemble cats) and maybe some others, a turtle leader or whatever.

Not like they would do something like that, but it would be nice to see something a little bit different.

Nick May 16th, 2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 5804266)
I'd like it to be COMPLETELY different i.e

Psychic
Fire
Dragon
Steel
Water
Grass
Bug
Dark

I really want a Dark type gym leader

I would really like to see these types be the ones chosen for gym leaders. Maybe not in that order, since I would really prefer Psychic and Dragon to be used later (psychic probably Gym #6 and Dragon Gym #5) but it would really be nice to drift away from the typical rock, electric, fighting, water that you basically find in nearly every single region. But I'm really excited to see the gym leaders more than what type's they'll be specializing in. It'd also be interesting to see something like the fighting dojo be reintroduced in this region and have some mini-gyms for experience purposes.

Charmageddon May 16th, 2010 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 5804390)
My other idea was to make gyms part of the terrain, so instead of having to enter a building you have to climb a mountain!! Wild pokemon battle included!! That way you could even return to the gym to train!!

That would be epic. To fight a Water-type leader you have to swim to the bottom of the ocean, to find the Bug leader you must make your way deep into a forest... that would make an incredible game. There would have to be a Pokemon Centre near the leader though.

Bay May 16th, 2010 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 5803963)
Gyms need to keep their type themes, but the leaders don't necessarily need to have monotype teams. Throw in one pokemon of a different type to deal with pokemon that can normally wall the rest of the team. (such as an electric gym leader using a water type to deal with n00bs that think they can wall him with a ground-type, and possibly set up a rain dance/thunder combo or something).

I think we need a Dark-type gym pretty badly, and bug-type, poison-type, ground-type, and dragon-type gyms need to be brought back. :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeachBoy (Post 5803981)
First off I think the gym leaders should incorporate more of a strategy than mindlessly abusing the same type. Like Timbjerr said, throw in one of another time.

I think we need another steel-type gym with something other than Steelix abuse, but that's unlikely. :(

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Originally Posted by Sweet Smoochum (Post 5804127)
I like your ideas. I agree with you on the type gyms that should be included. I'd also like a Fire Type gym with a red haired female as the gym leader. With the fire type gym, the Pokemon can have electric/grass moves to counteract against water/ground Pokemon. For example, she can use a Vulpix/Ninetales with Energy Ball, Dark Pulse, Safeguard, and Flamethrower.

I'd also like the return of rematches.

Actually, in Diamond/Pearl Candice and Volkner did something like that before their team got overhauled in Platinum. Candice had a Medicham because it can learn Ice Punch and Volkner had both Ambipom and Octillery because they learned a couple electric attacks. But yeah, maybe something with a bit more tact like you guys mentioned could be something interesting to spice things up.

And Sweet Smoochum, there's already a Fire Type gym with a red haired female: Flannery from the R/S/E games. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Flannery. Of course, she's pretty easy to beat. :x

Ayselipera May 16th, 2010 12:02 PM

I think just about everyone has probably already said this before me, but I'm guessing we'll finally see the introduction of a dark type gym. Am I jumping for joy? No not really, I mean it will be nice to finally see a dark gym, but I'm not overly excited for it. I am hoping it will house Pokemon like Umbreon and Houndour, not just all the newer dark types.

The one thing I will say though is that I really hope the first gym is not a rock type gym. In fact I would like it if there wasn't even a rock gym leader throughout the whole game. Brock was nostalgic, Roxanne was forgettable, and Roark is annoying. I don't need another rock gym leader to stare at especially if they end up being the first gym leader.

Sweet Smoochum May 16th, 2010 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Alexison (Post 5804645)
Actually, in Diamond/Pearl Candice and Volkner did something like that before their team got overhauled in Platinum. Candice had a Medicham because it can learn Ice Punch and Volkner had both Ambipom and Octillery because they learned a couple electric attacks. But yeah, maybe something with a bit more tact like you guys mentioned could be something interesting to spice things up.

And Sweet Smoochum, there's already a Fire Type gym with a red haired female: Flannery from the R/S/E games. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Flannery. Of course, she's pretty easy to beat. :x

I know about Flannery, but why can't there be another red haired female fire type gym leader with better Pokemon? She could have an evolution of the fire pig starter or something. I pretty much don't care about the type as long as there's a red haired gym leader (or E4 member or champ) in this game that looks a little bit like me. XD

Bay May 16th, 2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayselipera (Post 5804676)
I think just about everyone has probably already said this before me, but I'm guessing we'll finally see the introduction of a dark type gym. Am I jumping for joy? No not really, I mean it will be nice to finally see a dark gym, but I'm not overly excited for it. I am hoping it will house Pokemon like Umbreon and Houndour, not just all the newer dark types.

The one thing I will say though is that I really hope the first gym is not a rock type gym. In fact I would like it if there wasn't even a rock gym leader throughout the whole game. Brock was nostalgic, Roxanne was forgettable, and Roark is annoying. I don't need another rock gym leader to stare at especially if they end up being the first gym leader.

Hm, I wouldn't mind too much if only the newer dark types are housed if they're good. For sure Zorua/Zoroark will be used. Depends maybe where the dark gym will be placed, so it could be a chance some of the older dark types will come into play. I"m hoping Absol might be used in the gym. XD *gets shot for being an Absol fan*

Esper May 16th, 2010 12:20 PM

If they're going to have gyms and badges I want there to be new ways to challenge them and get them thar badges.

I'd like to see you team up with a gym leader to battle off some foes and save the day. They can give you a badge for that rather than for beating them in a battle. Of course it's not as much fun if you can't battle them so they can work that into the story as a fun battle between friends once the crisis is averted. I want to see the gym leaders integrated heavily into the story as friends of the characters, relatives, or even enemies/rivals/opponents/whatever.

Ayselipera May 16th, 2010 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Alexison (Post 5804714)
Hm, I wouldn't mind too much if only the newer dark types are housed if they're good. For sure Zorua/Zoroark will be used. Depends maybe where the dark gym will be placed, so it could be a chance some of the older dark types will come into play. I"m hoping Absol might be used in the gym. XD *gets shot for being an Absol fan*

Well don't get me wrong I'm not totally against seeing new and newer dark types in a dark type gym, I just don't want the older dark types to be ignored. Since they never really got their debut to begin with. Unless you want to count Karen of the Johto Elite Four, but still.

Charmageddon May 16th, 2010 1:58 PM

If we do get a Dark-type gym I can see Zoroark being the signature Pokemon (like Lucario was).

chaos11011 May 16th, 2010 2:08 PM

The gyms shouldn't be based on type it should be based on strategy,like A Trick Room Gyms with Slow pokemon for the trainers and the Leader has A bunch of pokemon who utilizes Trick Room Well.(then gives out Trick Room)Or maybe a Baton Pass team.Trainers uses Stat boosting move and the leader uses a chain Baton Pass team and gives out Swords Dance as the TM

Zeph. May 16th, 2010 2:15 PM

I'd like to see Bug get a bit more respect too. Bugsy's Scyther wasn't the worst, but they could still go one up with Scizor or Vespiquen or any new bug types in Gen V.

cobraman228 May 16th, 2010 2:26 PM

All I want is

- No gym buildings, instead you go through a cave or a forest or an ocean to find not a gym leader, but a "Badge Bearer", a person who gives you a badge once you defeat them.

-No ROCK TYPE, they're too easy

-Dark Type all the way

JAK3 May 16th, 2010 2:36 PM

I would like to see the puzzles kept in these games, I enjoyed the puzzles in all the generation games, so why not keep the tradition running?

Raichupacabra May 16th, 2010 2:40 PM

they seriously need to make a dark type gym
good team
zoroark
absol
spritomb
?????
5th gen dark type

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Originally Posted by chaos11011 (Post 5805049)
The gyms shouldn't be based on type it should be based on strategy,like A Trick Room Gyms with Slow pokemon for the trainers and the Leader has A bunch of pokemon who utilizes Trick Room Well.(then gives out Trick Room)Or maybe a Baton Pass team.Trainers uses Stat boosting move and the leader uses a chain Baton Pass team and gives out Swords Dance as the TM

well they did use stat boosting moves in rse in norman's gym

GlitchCity May 16th, 2010 3:09 PM

Well I do believe that gym leaders are supposed to protect their cities, I just want them to play a major role in the story (besides just defeating them)

chaos11011 May 16th, 2010 3:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raichupacabra (Post 5805117)
they seriously need to make a dark type gym
good team
zoroark
absol
spritomb
?????
5th gen dark type



well they did use stat boosting moves in rse in norman's gym

Yes but it was a normal based gym,Norman didn't set up on his opponents

Tyrantrum May 16th, 2010 4:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 5803963)
I think we need a Dark-type gym pretty badly, and bug-type, poison-type, ground-type, and dragon-type gyms need to be brought back. :P

^ this right here ^

Maybe something like this:
  • Bug
  • Normal
  • Ground
  • Poison
  • Dark
  • Dragon
  • Fire
  • Ice

Maybe a different order. The ones bolded are the ones Timbjerr said and also the ones that we do actually need brought back. The other three are possible ones that I would like to see put in there. Maybe there could be a Steel-type gym in the game, too?

Bay May 16th, 2010 4:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Smoochum (Post 5804698)
I know about Flannery, but why can't there be another red haired female fire type gym leader with better Pokemon? She could have an evolution of the fire pig starter or something. I pretty much don't care about the type as long as there's a red haired gym leader (or E4 member or champ) in this game that looks a little bit like me. XD

Heh, already mentioned Flannery is quite easy. XD

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Originally Posted by Ayselipera (Post 5804819)
Well don't get me wrong I'm not totally against seeing new and newer dark types in a dark type gym, I just don't want the older dark types to be ignored. Since they never really got their debut to begin with. Unless you want to count Karen of the Johto Elite Four, but still.

Yeah, I get what you're saying. Maybe they'll mix in second and third gen dark types, though I see the third gen ones will be used more because the second gen dark types have appeared quite a bit in Platinum (though not anyone being a Dark type trainer).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarf (Post 5804729)
If they're going to have gyms and badges I want there to be new ways to challenge them and get them thar badges.

I'd like to see you team up with a gym leader to battle off some foes and save the day. They can give you a badge for that rather than for beating them in a battle. Of course it's not as much fun if you can't battle them so they can work that into the story as a fun battle between friends once the crisis is averted. I want to see the gym leaders integrated heavily into the story as friends of the characters, relatives, or even enemies/rivals/opponents/whatever.

Hm, I quite like the idea of seeing more gym leaders being integrated heavily into the storyline one way or another. Now, I say more because there are a few instances where they have been integrated like Giovanni your enemy actually, Clair won't give you the badge until you get through the Dragon's Den, and Norman your father (although that isn't expanded that much). However, more than likely you'll still have to battle them for a badge, sad to say. D:

Volroc May 16th, 2010 4:31 PM

i tihnk we should have this:

Ghost
Fire
Water
Grass
Dragon
Dark
Mixed
Mixed

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Also no gym puzzles, just fill it up with trainers you have to fight :P
i personally want the gym leaders, and e4 to be involved more into the storyline
i loved platinum for that :3 (platinum is only 2nd to Johto Region Games :P )

Mew396 May 24th, 2010 2:39 PM

I would have to agree would a lot of people and say a dark type gym because it's the only type we haven't seen so far.

Karen of the Johto E4 uses dark types but she doesn't count because she's not a gym leader.

Angelroid May 24th, 2010 2:47 PM

I would like to see.

Fighting
Dark
Steel
Psychic
Poison
Dragon
Fire
Flying

pieguy259 May 24th, 2010 2:48 PM

Perhaps this:

Rock (it's tradition, that makes it OK)
Bug
Poison
Dark
Ground
Electric (with a female Gym Leader this time)
Ghost
Dragon

Bluemoon May 24th, 2010 3:25 PM

Well from what i heard there will be another new type called "Light"... they probabaly make a GYM for that one....

Bloothump May 24th, 2010 4:07 PM

One thing I dislike about how gyms are set up is in many towns, you could just roll up, kick gym butt, and roll out, spare maybe a small encounter. In every city, there needs to be some sort of dilemma solved before you can fight the gym leader in every town. In most cases, the problem should involve said leader, thus adding at least a bit more involvement with their characters. Say the gym leader wants to quit, and refuses to go back into his gym. Say another hhas been kidnapped, or missing for the past few days. I think if Team Generic has some kind of plot involving gym leaders, that could also help keep them out of their gyms. And face it, it doesn't quite stack up that Team Generic isn't scared of the all mighty gym leaders busting their balls, and likewise the gym leaders stay out of Team Generic's affairs.

Sacr3d Fire May 24th, 2010 4:11 PM

I think gyms will be the same like in the other games but i agree with the idea of dark gym,they never made one before and a dragon gym will be awsome.

Porygon-Z May 24th, 2010 4:21 PM

I would like to see this combo:
  1. Psychic (Pokémon like Raltz, Drowzee, Starmie)
  2. Poison (Pokémon like Venonat, Nidorino, Nidorina, Nidoking)
  3. Fire (Pokémon like Growlithe, Houndour, Magmar, Houndoom)
  4. Dark (Pokémon like Murkrow, Sabeleye, Honchkrow, Absol)
  5. Bug (Pinsir, Scyther, Beedrill, Venemoth, Scizor)
  6. Ground (Sandslash, Claydol, Donphan, Flygon)
  7. Flying (Dodrio, Jumpluff, Drifblim, Gliscor, Gyarados)
  8. Normal (Ambipom, Togekiss, Snorlax, Swellow ,Slaking, Porygon-Z
With an Elite Four of:

  1. Rock (Cradilly, Armaldo, Aerodactly, Rampardos, Kabutops)
  2. Grass (Parasect, Tropius,Exeggutor, Ludicolo, Shiftry)
  3. Water (Tentacruel, Crawdaunt, Gastrodon, Poliwrath, Kingdra)
  4. Electric (Electrode, Lanturn, Magnezone, Jolteon, Electivire)

Stew_The_Jew May 24th, 2010 4:50 PM

well that was volker(cant spell) from sunnyshore in 4th gen. he has an octillery to deal with ground types

PiPVoda May 24th, 2010 5:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlitchCity (Post 5805217)
Well I do believe that gym leaders are supposed to protect their cities, I just want them to play a major role in the story (besides just defeating them)

Love that idea! It would have made perfect sense use this scenario in gen 4. Like each city with a gym had a piece of the Adamant/Lustrous orbs and once you've collected all it should have led to fighting Team Galactic for the orb, them getting away, blah blah blah you know the rest.

Wonder how they could implement that in b&w but I'm sure they'd find a way.

Anyways, the gym leaders I think should be in this order:

Normal or Normal/Fighting
----Pkmn: Bidoof, Tyrogue, two gen 5 normals
Electric
----Pkmn: Gen 5 electrics, maybe a luxio or pikachu
Steel
----Pkmn: Scizor, two gen 5 steel types, skarmory or metang
Psychic
---Pkmn: Raltz! or Espeon, the rest gen 5
Fire
---Pkmn: ALL GEN 5 FIRE TYPES, so at least 3
Water
---Pkmn: Gen 5 water types, maybe a wailmer added in too cuz I love 'em
Dragon
---Pkmn: Garchomp or Flygon, gen 5 dragons
Dark
---Pkmn: Zoroark, Absol, Honchcrow, 2 other gen 5 dark types

. Rock has been the first gym for too many gens, and honestly I feel that having rock be 3rd would mean stronger rock types and not just make rock gyms known as the 'easy ones' anymore. We haven't had psychic since what Kanto (if I'm right) so it should be brought back. Fire deserves to be strong, but at the same time I'm not in favor of make it one of the last 3. I added water because more than likely there will be a ton of new water types, and they're like a cornerstone of pokemon games so not having a water gym wouldn't make since. Dark should be last to show its true power and Dragon 7th.

Mortalis May 24th, 2010 6:39 PM

We need a good Dark Type Gym. That would be lovely; I could see the gym leader using Zorua or Zoroark. Heh heh heh. [/devious]

I would also love a nice normal type gym ... a powerful one, because normal types are fun to go against. They have a lot of health and strategies that lend a good challenge.

Another fighting gym would be nice ... but a thing they need to update is the puzzles in the gyms to get to the gym leaders / advance further into the gym. Fantina's gym had the right idea, but they were too easy. An actual challenging puzzle would be awesome.

Azzurra May 24th, 2010 10:28 PM

I'm hoping for a tough first and last leader. The last installment of the Pokemon franchise disappointed me with their last choices for levels and Pokemon for the party, ect. I honestly wouldn't mind a challenge.

Ger Japa May 28th, 2010 7:30 AM

I'm looking forward to this:

1st: grass - root badge
2nd: water - whirl badge
3rd: electric - lightning badge
4th: poison - fog badge
5th: ice - icy-eye badge
6th: psychic - sound badge
7th: dragon - tornado badge
8th: fire - firesoul badge

:P

Adley June 5th, 2010 1:52 PM

Gym Types You Expect to See in Pokemon Black & White?
 
Assuming there are 8 gyms in this region, as with the past, what 8 types do you expect to be found within the Isshu region? (Didn't see a thread on this)

I expect a rock-type gym, since it has been in the past three of four regions. I also expect a dark-type gym, considering there hasn't been one as of yet.

So, what types are you expecting? How about with the Elite Four and Champion?

Thorns June 5th, 2010 1:53 PM

Dark type since we've yet to have one and it's the only type that doesn't have it's own gym.

Maybe Psychic and Flying too.

blue June 5th, 2010 1:56 PM

Yeah, for Four Generations now, we haven't yet seen a Dark type gym and I think it's about time we do see one, i'd also like to see a flying type gym.

Totaldile June 5th, 2010 1:59 PM

I'd like a dark one, fire, water, grass, ground, a multiple type gym leader, maybe steel, another normal type gym.

Shiny Shaymin June 5th, 2010 2:07 PM

Poison, maybe. We haven’t had one of those in a while. =S

Adley June 5th, 2010 2:08 PM

Kanto's gym leader Koga or something like that

cyan. June 5th, 2010 2:08 PM

I think it's time for a flying gym.

seal June 5th, 2010 2:11 PM

I think Poison, Dark, Bug, Flying, Dragon, Fighting, Ground and Psychic Gyms would be nice.

Shiny Shaymin June 5th, 2010 2:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adley (Post 5856687)
Kanto's gym leader Koga or something like that


Oh yeah, I forgot. Haha. xP

Masterge77 June 5th, 2010 2:31 PM

Gym 1: Rock (You know it will be)
Gym 2: Bug (we have not had one since Gen 2)
Gym 3: Fire
Gym 4: Ghost
Gym 5: Water (Don't we always have a water gym?)
Gym 6: Poison (we have not had one since Gen 1)
Gym 7: Ice (Don't we always have an ice gym too?)
Gym 8: Dark (we need one badly)

Elite 1: Ground
Elite 2: Psychic
Elite 3: Flying
Elite 4: Steel

Champion: Variety (Monotype Champions are too easy)

cystar June 5th, 2010 3:17 PM

Gym 1: Rock
Gym 2: Flying
Gym 3: Dark
Gym 4: Steel
Gym 5: Elecrtirc
Gym 6: Water
Gym 7:Poisen
Gym 8: Fire

Elite 4
1: Fighting
2:Fire
3:Ice
4:Psycic
Champion: Normal

Oh, The Places You'll Go. June 5th, 2010 3:44 PM

I would expect to battle against:
Water
Fire
Grass
Flying
Electric
Dark
Psychic
Ground
Not in any particular order, just listed as they came to mind.

Darkest Shade of Light June 5th, 2010 3:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyan. (Post 5856688)
I think it's time for a flying gym.

Winona from Hoenn? She's flying

Adley June 5th, 2010 4:35 PM

And Flying was the first gym in Jhoto as well. As to the suggestion of a normal type champion, thats far too easy

spike6958 June 5th, 2010 4:38 PM

I personally think they should up the amount of badges to 17(or more if new types are added) and have a Gym for each type, 8 badges always seemed low after G/S/C.

Adley June 5th, 2010 4:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike6958 (Post 5856993)
I personally think they should up the amount of badges to 17(or more if new types are added) and have a Gym for each type, 8 badges always seemed low after G/S/C.

But if there was a gym for every type, would't that make the Elite Four a little redundant? Since they each have their own type as well?

spike6958 June 5th, 2010 5:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adley (Post 5857042)
But if there was a gym for every type, would't that make the Elite Four a little redundant? Since they each have their own type as well?

Well IMO the E4 have always been redundant, there really just glorified Gym Leaders anyway, I would much prefer to have them replaced with actual Gym Leaders, so we have more places to explore, train and catch are Pokemon, instead of just 4 rooms with a trainer in the middle, and besides they don't have to make the E4 focus on one Pokemon type each, giving them different types of Pokemon would help make them more of a challenge.

Sakura Rain June 5th, 2010 5:52 PM

Like everyone else, Dark type gym plz.

I'd also like a Fire type gym and a Psychic type gym just because I love those types.

I don't care what the other gym's types are, but I would like to have something other than Rock first.

Elise June 5th, 2010 6:04 PM

I think it would be very cool if the game aged as we have. I don't know if there are others like me, but I've been playing this game for 13 years. Maybe switching it up, like adding more gyms/ or making it so the E4 has more than just a monotype team would be awesome.

But, other than that: Dark or Poison as gyms for sure. And Dragon seems to be a main staple of the E4 (:

SparklingMistral June 5th, 2010 6:09 PM

Multitype gyms would be nice. I'm getting kinda tired of the monotype gyms. :/ But that's just me.

It'd be nice if the entire E4 was monotype as well instead of just the champion.

Dillon_68 June 5th, 2010 6:30 PM

Normal: Whitney and Norman. Since there was a generation gap, maybe.
Fire: Blaine, Flannery. Possibly a Fire gym this gen, to keep the pattern going, lol.
Water: Misty, Wallace/Juan, Wake. No Water this gen.
Grass: Erika, Gardenia. No Grass this gen since we had one the Gen before.
Electric: Volkner came last gen, and we've also had Surge and Wattson. No.
Ground: Giovanni was the only Ground, we need another one.
Rock: 3 Rock Gyms before (Brock, Roxanne, and Roark). No.
Ice: Pryce and Candice, even though the latter was last gen, Ice is in the minority, so that's a maybe.
Fighting: Chuck, Brawly, and Maylene. No.
Psychic: Sabrina, Tate & Liza. Why not, keep the same pattern that Fire had going with Psychic as well.
Dark: No Dark Gym? Definite yes.
Ghost: Morty and Fantina. It's in the minority, so maybe.
Steel: Bryon and Jasmine. Yes.
Dragon: Clair was the only one, so yeah.
Poison: Koga and Janine, who were both for Kanto. WAY PAST DUE.
Bug: Only Bugsy, and that was 3 gens ago, yes.
Flying: Winona and Falkner. Hmm...Generation gap, sure.

Normal, Fire, Ground, Ice, Dark, Ghost, Flying, Bug, Poison, Dragon are all possibilities.

batmon June 5th, 2010 6:31 PM

I want to see a Normal gym, both Whitney and Norman were the hardest gym leaders I've ever faced.

Timbjerr June 5th, 2010 7:15 PM

I'm feeling like:
- Ground
- Bug
- Flying
- Psychic
- Fire
- Grass
- Poison
- Dark

Followed by this E4:
- Rock/Steel
- Water/Ice
- Ghost/Poison
- Dragon/Flying
- Normal

GrifSpark June 6th, 2010 2:54 AM

Well, here are a couple of ideas for the Gyms;

1st. Rock. Roland
Makes sense, since all the first Gym's (Excluding Johto's) were Rock type.

2nd. Ice. Lisa
Could be possible if the Gym was near a cave or mountain range of some sort. (Like current Ice Gym's)

3rd. Dark. Tyson
There hasn't been a Dark Gym yet... . That could spice things up a bit.

4th. Flying. Ariel
The Flying Gym in Johto wasn't great because of the lack of available Flying types. But the one in Hoenn (Wiona) was awesome.

5th. Bug. Molly
They can be awesome. Srsy...

6th. Psychic. Wally
(Anyone who's played R/S/E will know who he is)
I found the Psychic Gym in Saffron city to be one hell of a fight. I think there should be more Psychic Gym's. And I think Wally from R/S/E should have a bigger part.

7th. Normal. Paul
The Normal Gym in Hoenn was one hell of a fight (Damn Slaking...)

8th. Dragon. Samantha
Possibly the most difficult Gym type by having a resistance to the four main types.

For the more "Eagle Eyed" reader, you may have noticed I missed out all four main types (Water, Grass, Fire, Electricity). Which is why I chose these E4 leaders

1st. Grass. Oliver

2nd. Water. Louisa

3rd. Fire. Ted

4th. Electricity. Amphin

Having those types as E4 leaders would make it one hell of a challenge, because combined there's only a few Type's that don't have a weakness to them.

Hybrid Trainer June 6th, 2010 3:19 AM

Well i would like:
1: Bug
2: Ghost
3: Dark
4: Dragon
5: Poison
6: Grass
7: Dragon
8: Ground

The reason why i picked these is because om still hoping for a return to Hoen :P

Gramisaur June 6th, 2010 3:35 AM

I'm thinking something along the lines of:

01. Poison
02. Ground
03. Bug
04. Psychic
05. Grass
06. Ghost
07. Dark
08. Dragon

------------

01. Normal
02. Electric
03. Fire
04. Water

Champion - Misc.

No fighting as they've featured every gen in some capacity or other and I just find them really irritating :/ Same for Rock.

cystar June 6th, 2010 4:10 AM

17 gyms one of every type ancd the elite 4 are not type speciffic

Shining Meganium June 6th, 2010 10:30 AM

I think they should get rid of monotype gyms and have other various themes.

here are some ideas-
various weather gyms.
a baton passer.
a scary one with dark, ghost and poison.
tough one consisting of rock, steel, ground and fighting.

markboyable June 6th, 2010 2:47 PM

i would love an all rounder gym

BridZworld June 6th, 2010 3:43 PM

I would like to see a dark type gym and a bug type gym early on in the game, or even a psychic early on, I am fed up of rock type gyms all together now lol.. Also I agree with a few others here that the gym leaders should have more prominent roles in the game. It is pretty boring that you go in the gym battle the leader and thats that.

A Pixy June 6th, 2010 3:59 PM

I want the last Gym Leader to be Rock. His/her Pokemon would have incredible Defense. That would be cool. :D

Rehanlarc June 6th, 2010 5:50 PM

I think that almost all the games are great, but I wish they would incorporate a dark gym, and maybe make a new type, but that would be hard... I agree that they should have multiple types in a gym or make one gym offensive or defensive or something. I also wish that they would have the gym leaders more incorporated in the plot, like how the elite four master normally is. I overall think that it will be exciting to know new information, and also I was wondering if anyone would tell me where to get most of the information...

PiPVoda June 6th, 2010 5:53 PM

Spoiler:
[QUOTE=Sweet Smoochum;5857313]I agree with all of those.


What genders each gym leader could be:
Poison: Guy
Dark: Girl
Bug: Girl (Girls can like bugs, too.) Her name can be Ariana and her hair could be in pigtails.
Flying: Male or female (since we've already had one of each.)
Dragon: Male (we already had a female one, so male)
Fighting: A guy (Chuck & Maylene, Maylene was previous gen, so a guy this time)
Ground: Girl
Psychic: Guy

Maybe an E4 member could use Electric pokemon. She could be a guitarist. ^_^



I also agree with Dillon_68

who said:

Possible genders for the types you listed:

Normal: Girl (Whitney & Norman)
Fire: Guy (Pokabu evo)
Ground: Girl (can have Donphan)
Ice: Guy
Dark: Girl
Ghost: Guy (Morty & Fantina)
Flying: Guy (Falkner & Winona, guy this time)
Bug: Girl --Ariana
Poison: Guy (Koga & Janine)
Dragon: Guy (Clair was the only one, so guy this time.)[/
[QUOTE]


No water? :'( Though it's been used in every generation water is an important part of the world, and the pokemon world. With so many water types (and possibly even more new ones) shouldn't we have one? The ice gym leader could be water/ice.

Good list, but I think that a girl should be fire ever since I battled the awesomeness that is Flannery.

Yamikarasu June 6th, 2010 6:04 PM

As long as the first gym isn't Rock or Ground. It should be something that all the starters are neutral towards, but honestly I just want something new. And maybe a Dragon gym that could be early on.

Or maybe they could just put in 17 (18?) Gyms, one for each type, since I get the feeling they'll do at least something to change up the formula a bit.

Waki Tobaye June 6th, 2010 6:08 PM

I do not want Gym Leaders. I know it's, like, 90% assured that Gym Leaders and E4 will return; but, I dunno, Game Freak said we'd be seeing a "whole new thing" that even we would say: "Is this really Pokémon?"; so I'd like to see a new thing. A new system.

Now, if gyms return, I'd love it if they are not monotyped. I hate it when just with my Machop I could defeat Whitney's Miltank and Clefairy pretty easily.
I want variety, kinda like the McDonalds wannabe E4 on Diamond or Blue, I said "kinda" because it'd be cool if they were based on a theme. Cute Pokémon, baby pokémon, starter pokémon, jungle Pokémon, desert Pokémon, urban Pokémon... there are lots of things that could be made!

Edit: Ah! I got another idea. Maybe, you know, have a gym for all the types; and then you would get to a roulette or something and randomly get to challange a gym! It'd be cool.

Volroc June 6th, 2010 8:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THAT WONDERFUL PIXY GUY! (Post 5859649)
I want the last Gym Leader to be Rock. His/her Pokemon would have incredible Defense. That would be cool. :D

this, but with an entire team of fossil pokemon ^_^

Thunderhead June 6th, 2010 8:32 PM

Well, I'm looking at some of the screens for B/W.

If you look at the current areas on serebii for black and white, you can get a better idea of what I'm thinking of.
(I can't post links yet, because I'm a n00b, lol)

Hiun City - I think that this place could hold a flying or water gym. I say this because of the bridges name thats nearby(flying), water(that its a harbor)
Town 2 - Ground type.
City 1 - If Hiun isn't water, this has a high chance of holding a water type gym due to the canals.
Factory - The town near the factory can hold normal, poison, or electric Pokemon. Most Pokemon in shady urban areas are these types.
Forest - Town near this forest can hold bug or grass. However, like in R/S/E, this could just be a forest....
Electric Cave - Town near this could hold electric...

So its Flying, Water, Ground, Posion, Normal, Electric, Bug and Grass.

I also see Dark being thrown in there somewhere as well, as its one of the only types that doesn't have a gym coverage.

For the Elite Four, I would like to see duel types for each E4, kinda similar to what they did in Jhoto.

1.Bug/Grass
2.Psychic/Ghost or Dark
3.Rock/Ground/Steal
4.Water/Ice

5.Let this be like Gary. Have three different fights depending on your starter. I would like to see this champ hold a fight.

Also, let the champion have the ability to be seen around the region for random battles, and let his/her team switch around each fight, but a level increase until you have a team stronger than reds!

JakeG June 6th, 2010 10:49 PM

Eh puzzles, I don't mind them unless there the annoying Ice ones.

As for Gym types, I would love to see another one like Norman's in Gen III, you choose the type of trainer style you battle as you progress through to him, I also like his balanced fighting style.

lionrt60 June 7th, 2010 2:30 AM

NO 1st ROCK GYM!!!

right, now:

1. Flying (there is nothing else that i havent put later on)
2. Fighting
3. Fire
4. Poison
5. Ground
6. Bug
7. Dark
8. Normal

Elites:

1. Ghost
2. Electric
3. Rock
4. Grass

though i can see why most early gyms were rock/grass/bug/normal because there are basically no other types you find earlygame except the starters

Calder June 18th, 2010 5:26 PM

I just thought of something...What if instead of a type of gym (Dark, Fire, etc) you have a species Gym?

Monkey Gym: Primape Family, Hihidaruma Family, Infernape Family, etc.

That might explain the Honeycomb map in the game... Bee Gym: Vespiquen as the main Pokemon...Maybe the first gym would be Combee & Vespiquen and maybe another Bee Pokemon like Beedrill...

WriteThemWrong June 18th, 2010 5:41 PM

i think a rock or steel gym is in desperate need. brock and olivia didn't have much to work with in their respective version but now that they've been updated and there's more rock and steel types, they could cause some damage

Legend_X June 18th, 2010 6:41 PM

If anything, I'd like for there to be more than 8 gyms(like 14 or more) in the Isshu region so that way players can pick and choose which gyms they want to battle instead of having to battle the standard eight available. Though you would still only need 8 badges to get to the elite four.

I also completely agree with the dark gym leader addition and the terrain gym areas idea. ;D

yaya0 June 18th, 2010 7:20 PM

There won't be a dark type gym. You can quote me on that.

[email protected]! June 18th, 2010 8:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend_X (Post 5892885)
If anything, I'd like for there to be more than 8 gyms(like 14 or more) in the Isshu region so that way players can pick and choose which gyms they want to battle instead of having to battle the standard eight available. Though you would still only need 8 badges to get to the elite four.

I also completely agree with the dark gym leader addition and the terrain gym areas idea. ;D

I'm really liking that idea! Although, it would kind of botch up rematches of the gym leaders. I would love to pick and choose the leaders, which order i battle them in. Maybe even tiers of gym leaders. Say, first 3 require no badges, second few require a badge, next few require 2 badges, etc... you know?

Dark type.. PLEASE. Karen's all alone in her little world of only 2 Dark type Pokemon, and she doesn't even get to give a badge. If she's the 4th member of the elite 4, she's got to be powerful no? So why not put in another Dark member! Just so she's not alone at the Gym Leader Conferences...

Calder June 19th, 2010 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yaya0 (Post 5892956)
There won't be a dark type gym. You can quote me on that.

Quoted...I hope you are WRONG!!! or WRONG!!!

I STILL VOTE FOR SPECIES GYMS....MONKEY GYM LEADERS UNTIE!!! lol Unite...(It was a joke)

seeker June 19th, 2010 4:17 AM

I'd like to see Gym Leaders with more of a back story like in the anime or a little like Claire had in GSC. I'd like to learn more about them leading up to the battle and possibly see them a little more after the battle itself. Speaking on the topic of types though, I think that there will be a Dark type gym which may possibly tie in with the Zoro's. The only Dark type leader of sorts, was Karen in the E4 again back in GSC. So it'll be interesting to see how the leaders pan out this time around.

Numbers June 19th, 2010 6:43 AM

I'd like to see the leaders incorporated into storylines as well and I too would like to see a dark Gym. I would NOT however like to see the dark Gym Leader have Zoroark.


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