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MistahDude May 17th, 2010 7:26 PM

Version name change for America?
 
Knowing how up tight Nintendo of America's lawyers are I would assume that they would not let Black and White slide as acceptable names. Unlike Japan, we have a lot of black people here and lawsuits could come up from stupid people who don't understand what racism means.

I personally think they could come up with better names than Black, White and possibly Gray. I would love for the names to be changed, and they might here in America.

What do you think?

StrickeN May 17th, 2010 7:28 PM

Why should we change the name because a bunch of people think the name is offensive. The name suits it's title. No indians or asians complained at pokemon yellow, so america can get over it.

MistahDude May 17th, 2010 7:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrickeN (Post 5808474)
Why should we change the name because a bunch of people think the name is offensive. The name suits it's title. No indians or asians complained at pokemon yellow, so america can get over it.

I am not talking about the American public, I am talking about some of the most uptight lawyers ever.

Kirbychu May 17th, 2010 7:32 PM

I think it's possible, but it probably won't happen. We'll just have to see how people respond. I wonder what the alternate names could be...

Vrai May 17th, 2010 7:34 PM

Black and White are absolutely gorgeous names and if they change the names I will not buy the games. Seriously.

Whoever thinks that naming the games "Black" and "White" will be racist or is racist is an ignorant jackass. We refer to old-school television as black and white, so why the hell would naming games in that manner make any sort of difference?

Natester May 17th, 2010 7:41 PM

I certainly hope they don't change the names of the games. It's just like when they changed the name Tin tower to Bell tower because of *cough*9/11*cough*. Hooray for censorship...NOT!

EDIT: I almost forgot about the European Union canning the slots in video games. European Union = butthurt.

Wings Don't Cry May 17th, 2010 7:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5808478)
I am not talking about the American public, I am talking about some of the most uptight lawyers ever.

Do you even know what a lawyer does?

X75flames May 17th, 2010 7:59 PM

They made a black and white. Its not like they made white the thrid of this serese. I'm white, and will be getting black beacuse I think it will lokk really awesome on the title screen. Thats what I do with most pokemon games XD

MistahDude May 17th, 2010 8:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wings Don't Cry (Post 5808515)
Do you even know what a lawyer does?

they protect a company from losing money from lawsuits right?

Wings Don't Cry May 17th, 2010 8:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5808528)
they protect a company from losing money from lawsuits right?

That's one thing they do. They pretty much deal with anything to do with the law. You need a lawyer for pretty much everything even for things like buying a house. Wikipedia will give you the gist of what a lawyer does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawyer

Timbjerr May 17th, 2010 8:12 PM

I think America as a whole is well beyond associating colors with anything racial. I don't see why it'd have to change if the African American public has yet to speak out about it. >_>

Guy May 17th, 2010 8:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5808528)
they protect a company from losing money from lawsuits right?

That amongst other many various cases, yes. With that said though, they would have no power to say whether or not he game titles are racist to people or not. That final decision would be left upon the government and Nintendo would find a way around it. Such case happened with Game Corner and their slot machines.

Anyway, I doubt the American version of these games would be changed. The titles are perfectly fine, and in no way reflect upon racism. It's just a color like Red, Blue, Yellow, and Green. Only those who actually think of it that way, would complain about it - which sadly there are quite a handful of them. D: I don't think something as simple as a game title would have to be changed though. If it did, that would be kind of disappointing to see.

I mean the slot machines in the Game Corner was one thing, but this is another.

Alexeon May 17th, 2010 8:40 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the people who aren't in the know with regards to Pokémon probably wouldn't see black/white versions of a game being much different than having the choice between a black or a white version of a T-shirt. Or maybe black and white should just never be available as choices for anything. =/

I dunno, I just can't see why there should be any issue...And I think any attempts to change the names to something more "PC" could end up butchering the games greatly. Not to mention I love the names as they already are...

Her May 17th, 2010 9:14 PM

It's a shame that people even notion these ideas, to be blunt.

Volroc May 17th, 2010 10:12 PM

if they did, which they wont (unless african americans, or those religious nutjob white americans start anything) itll proably be changed into stones of similar colour:
such as zerconium for white & onyx for black
and grey would be left alone, im sure americans can handle grey :P

loliwin May 17th, 2010 10:15 PM

I hope they dont change it, the title are awesome! Plus, if dudes think its offensive, it aint, and its their fault for thinking its offensive. XDDDDDDDDDD

DXrobots May 17th, 2010 11:57 PM

I don't think its racist I just think the names black and white seem really boring even for pokemon games. It went from colors to metal to minerals and then jewels and now were going back to colors? I'd like to keep moving on maybe to light and darkness?

xDaisuke0 May 18th, 2010 12:07 AM

No just No...
Asians frikin made Yellow, and that was acceptable eh?
Nothing wrong with Black and White, they aren't referring to Skin Color at all! They are two opposites, that's all. I don't think anyone would feel offended, and if they are then there's really no reason to be.. o.o

Kikaito plush May 18th, 2010 12:16 AM

Can't just leave thing alone..they ruinned all my child hood favorites songs because of someone might get upset. It is STUPID!

Nick May 18th, 2010 12:16 AM

Anyone who connects the game titles with race and then demands the names of the games to be changed really need to find something better to do with their time. You'd think after so many years that we as a society have grown from that closed mind thinking where every single color or thing done relating to colors had a double meaning behind them. Alexeon makes a good point, and reading it, I really don't think many people will make a huge commotion over it, though I'm sure idiots today will cause there to be some controversy over the names. Black and white are just two extremely expressive colors, in my opinion. This just goes back to something I think of when I think of white and black; the iPhone. It's personal choice. Not getting one color doesn't mean your racist towards that color, it just means aesthetically you prefer that specific color for that specific piece of merchandise. At least that's how I see it.

Zeph. May 18th, 2010 12:34 AM

I don't think many people will associate Black and White with anything racial until someone brings it up.

Besides, what about games like Black and White 1 and 2 for the PC? Their names were fine...

Impo May 18th, 2010 1:20 AM

there's nothing racial about pokemon,
don't get offensive.
when people insult italians i admit i do get a little
annoyed, but not enough to try and bash their head in
or go to court.
and i thought black/white could refer to ying/yang ?

NatureKeeper May 18th, 2010 2:44 AM

I am thinking that there is no racism in the game. At all. There is nothing related to racism. And, names changed, for example. That happened in Red and Green. There is not a single law about naming after colours, especially that is just summing up to a print of #000000 and #FFFFFF, not people. So, no. Nobody can do anything about it, Nintendo won't break a law. =3

TrilbyMenetti May 18th, 2010 2:55 AM

I have no problem with either Black or White as titles and think they should remain for their eventual release, once translated and released everywhere after Japan.

The Cynic May 18th, 2010 2:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patchisou Yutohru (Post 5808883)
Anyone who connects the game titles with race and then demands the names of the games to be changed really need to find something better to do with their time. You'd think after so many years that we as a society have grown from that closed mind thinking where every single color or thing done relating to colors had a double meaning behind them. Alexeon makes a good point, and reading it, I really don't think many people will make a huge commotion over it, though I'm sure idiots today will cause there to be some controversy over the names. Black and white are just two extremely expressive colors, in my opinion. This just goes back to something I think of when I think of white and black; the iPhone. It's personal choice. Not getting one color doesn't mean your racist towards that color, it just means aesthetically you prefer that specific color for that specific piece of merchandise. At least that's how I see it.


Hooray for logic!

The young folks of today have been raised in a way that makes them think black and white are racist. THEY ARE COLOURS!!! Pokemon Blue wasn't racist to smurfs was it? No! Something is racist when it implies that a certain race is superior or inferior to others. Colours like black, white, blue, purple, magenta and heliotrope are not racist.

This thread is pointless.


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