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MistahDude May 18th, 2010 8:23 PM

Disappointments with the 5th Gen Thus Far?
 
Even though there are crazy new things they are introducing, there are some things I dislike.

I dislike that they kept the battle backgrounds bland. I was hoping for more than just a bunch of colors in a smudged line again. They have done that for many of the past games.

So far that is my only problem, but I am assuming all of you people out there dislike different things than me.

Tell me what you dislike, and why.

The Jewel of Life May 18th, 2010 8:46 PM

My disappointment is that in all of the screenshots there was no pokemon walking around behind the trainer. What gives? I liked having my pokmeon with me in Heartgold and Soulsilver. \./

Redrup May 18th, 2010 9:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jewel of Life (Post 5811391)
My disappointment is that in all of the screenshots there was no pokemon walking around behind the trainer. What gives? I liked having my pokmeon with me in Heartgold and Soulsilver. \./

Yeah, I'd be quite surprised if they scrapped that concept, especially since it was added into HG/SS despite not featuring in the original G/S/C series.

It made me think that perhaps this was the approach they would be taking in all future versions of the game. Maybe they are planning to add the feature later on, as it's still early in the development stage yet.

>Feelings< May 18th, 2010 10:03 PM

I have small disappointments over it. Not much. But those small do add up for being a bit big.
For example, I think Pokabu could be designed much better.

alisaie May 18th, 2010 10:07 PM

Unless it's just the screenshot's quality, the battle system looks cool, but then again it looks a bit pixely as well. I don't like the starters' sprites either; I like the bigger sprites of Gen IV, why are they shrinking 'em again? Could just be the screenshot and it's quantity though. :x

Other than that, I'm finding Black and White to be better than I thought it was going to be... so far.

Safetyfirst May 18th, 2010 10:12 PM

In the pictures that have come out about the pokemon center in the big skyscraper, I dont like that. I think it looks stupid, and I like the old alternative where its not in a city, and it actually has the feel of an adventure

loliwin May 19th, 2010 12:00 AM

I knew Nica would complain

Disappointments so far? I'd just fix the gauge meter a little. :)

Other than that, B/W is looking FANTASTIC so far. :D

R3D May 19th, 2010 12:02 AM

How could you have disappointments with a game that's not even out yet, I don't even know..

Thunderpunch May 19th, 2010 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by R3D (Post 5811702)
How could you have disappointments with a game that's not even out yet, I don't even know..

You're posting in a black and white forums, and you expect people not to have opinions on black and white?




I'm disappointed in the starters, the 3D-ness, and the fact that they seem to be doing the same old "new region, new pokemon" things. I think we have enough pokemon

Zeph. May 19th, 2010 3:21 AM

What's wrong with you people? :P Why are you being so negative about these games that - as R3D stated - are still half a year away? I for one can't wait for Black and White because it's something different, yet familiar at the same time.

Mind you, it looks like they kept the same battle animations (the actual attacks like Leaf Storm etc)

A Pixy May 19th, 2010 3:38 AM

None yet. Or at least, nothing I really cared about that much.

Guy May 19th, 2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunderpunch (Post 5811724)
I'm disappointed in the starters, the 3D-ness, and the fact that they seem to be doing the same old "new region, new pokemon" things. I think we have enough pokemon

I don't get what you mean by them doing the same old "new region, new Pokémon" thing, but if they didn't then every new game they made would pretty much be a different alliteration from the original. So instead of getting something new, we really would be getting back something old, except changed around a bit. Having said that, I don't see that to be something to complain about considering it's to be expected.

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Originally Posted by THAT WONDERFUL PIXY GUY! (Post 5811909)
None yet. Or at least, nothing I really cared about that much.

This is basically how I feel. I don't see anything to complain about as yet, and honestly I doubt I would have much to complain about by the finishing product either. :\

EJ May 19th, 2010 11:05 AM

As Hiiro says, I really haven't found anything to complain about. It all seems pretty good right now.

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Originally Posted by Safetyfirst (Post 5811490)
In the pictures that have come out about the pokemon center in the big skyscraper, I dont like that. I think it looks stupid, and I like the old alternative where its not in a city, and it actually has the feel of an adventure

I disagree; exploring a gigantic city seems like an adventure to me....and there are other cities that have yet to be revealed.

PiPVoda May 19th, 2010 11:19 AM

No complaints whatsoever. I liked having my pokemon behind me too, but if it's not in the game so-be-it. I see it as a small trade for huge ones: animated pkmn in battles, 3D!!, older protagonists, etc.

-Jake May 19th, 2010 11:28 AM

The sprites for the main characters looked sucky. >.> They need to let you CUSTOMIZE your character for once. Also the graphics looked very crummy. I heard someone on a different forum say they reminded him of early PS2 3D games.

Esper May 19th, 2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 5811685)
3D.

Go back to 2D, plz.

I sort of agree. It's not something I'm disappointed in since I haven't really seen it in action, but I don't know why they went 3D other than that they could. I don't see what it brings to the games. The 2.5D we had in recent games is enough to give me the taste of 3D.

Rokusasu May 19th, 2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by -Jake (Post 5812795)
The sprites for the main characters looked sucky. >.> They need to let you CUSTOMIZE your character for once. Also the graphics looked very crummy. I heard someone on a different forum say they reminded him of early PS2 3D games.

I agree with this... I love the new female character's design, but her sprite isn't so awesome. >: Customisation would be awesome- we saw our characters in HG/SS play around as a Rocket for a little while; surely they could give a few alternate outfits for the trainers at the start of the games?

Kon~ May 19th, 2010 12:19 PM

I, too, am annoyed at the 3D-ness. Pokémon was one of the few 2D games I enjoyed playing, and now it's been upgraded, and not necessarily improved.

Also, the protagonist sprites were dissapointingly generic.

Thorns May 19th, 2010 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jewel of Life (Post 5811391)
My disappointment is that in all of the screenshots there was no pokemon walking around behind the trainer. What gives? I liked having my pokmeon with me in Heartgold and Soulsilver. \./

Totally agree with you. It will be ehart breaking (at least to me) if they take out a feature that actually let you bond with your lead Pokemon. It also personified the Pokemon too, to make it less like a fighter, and more like a friend.

This feature is so important, that if Black/White doesn't have it, it may make me not buy it.

Tyrantrum May 19th, 2010 12:26 PM

I can only complain about the Pokémon following you feature being left out. I like that feature in HG/SS, it's too bad it's not in B/W as far as we know. Hopefully they might do something about that...

Aureol May 19th, 2010 12:27 PM

I'm extremely disappointed with the starters. I didn't like Gen. 4's design overall, but with Zorua and Zoroark I got my hopes up again. The grass starter is fine, but the other two don't look promising (ESPECIALLY the otter).

Kon~ May 19th, 2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorns (Post 5812925)
Totally agree with you. It will be ehart breaking (at least to me) if they take out a feature that actually let you bond with your lead Pokemon. It also personified the Pokemon too, to make it less like a fighter, and more like a friend.

This feature is so important, that if Black/White doesn't have it, it may make me not buy it.

Something you have to think about there is that they have to make walking sprites for every single Pokémon there is, which would take a while to sprite and program, and they also wouldn't want to accidentally reveal Pokémon in early videos. My money is on the idea that there will be Walking Pokémon. We just haven't seen them yet.

EJ May 19th, 2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Aureol (Post 5812932)
I'm extremely disappointed with the starters. I didn't like Gen. 4's design overall, but with Zorua and Zoroark I got my hopes up again. The grass starter is fine, but the other two don't look promising (ESPECIALLY the otter).

They grow on you bro. I felt the same way when I first saw them but I guess I got used to them and now I can tolerate them.

JP May 19th, 2010 1:02 PM

Only disappointed thus far in how pixelated the back sprites are in battle. I can see that annoying me quite a bit. Hopefully this will either look better on a DS screen that's in front of my hands, or they do a better job with the actual pixel work.

I think everything else so far looks fantastic though.

vietazn654 May 19th, 2010 2:09 PM

That they don't have the Follow-me Feature :( loved that

Norisom May 19th, 2010 2:14 PM

I think the games look pretty good but I still can't get over how there are no Pokemon following the main character in the screenshots and gameplay :(

juanhbk1 May 19th, 2010 2:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderpunch (Post 5811724)
I'm disappointed in the starters, the 3D-ness, and the fact that they seem
to be doing the same old "new region, new pokemon" things. I think we have enough pokemon

Oh yea, all in favour of a remake of Kanto!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or maybe Sinnoh....

These are good ideas!!!!!!

And also revert back to 2D and the starters should be Torchic, Squirtle and Chikorita

(Sarcasm)

X75flames May 19th, 2010 3:09 PM

Snow ball head, fire pig? Its come down to this... -_-

mikey May 19th, 2010 3:14 PM

Nothing bothers me about this upcoming generation, except how the screen shots we have seen so far don't feature the Follow Me feature as in HGSS. I really hope that comes back, even if its optional.

Chaos Rush May 19th, 2010 3:15 PM

Only disappointment so far is that it's on the DS, because by now, the DS has pretty much reached the end of it's life-span. I'll be fine with it if they do it like Generation II, where Gold/Silver is designed for GBC, but can be played on GB, while Crystal is GBC only. Maybe they'll do something like have Black & White designed for DSi/3DS, while it can be played on DS, and then have later versions (remakes/3rd version) be DSi/3DS only.

I guess it doesn't really matter, since I won't be getting Black & White. I see no point, since the 3rd version is going to be much better. I NEVER play my Diamond version anymore, and I feel like it was a waste of $35 bucks because of Platinum. Platinum far exceeds D/P, and so with the 3rd version to Black & White.

pokemongarnet May 19th, 2010 3:28 PM

Mijamaru...... he is the worst water starter period>.

lbirrueta May 19th, 2010 3:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jewel of Life (Post 5811391)
My disappointment is that in all of the screenshots there was no pokemon walking around behind the trainer. What gives? I liked having my pokmeon with me in Heartgold and Soulsilver. \./

The didn't show the pokemon walking because the did not want to reveal the new pokemon. it seem pretty obvious...

countryemo May 19th, 2010 4:02 PM

I have no complaints im pretty happy.
If follow-you was in there it should be optional i never liked it much ^.^

MistahDude May 19th, 2010 5:24 PM

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Originally Posted by X75flames (Post 5813415)
Snow ball head, fire pig? Its come down to this... -_-

Mijumaru has a white head because its a sea otter.

Waki Tobaye May 19th, 2010 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Butterfree-Charizard (Post 5813072)
I hope we don't get a bunch of new evos this time.

I do hope we get a bunch of new evos this time. But useful ones *coughcoughDusknoircoughcoughRhypheriorcoughcough*

Oh, I hate pixelated sprites. I will also be pretty frustrated if they remove the Partner Pokémon. C'mon, they made 493 sprites, why don't make just 150 (aproximately) new?

Missingno.7-4468 May 19th, 2010 6:11 PM

Only thing I am disappointed in is the color of the Water starter. I love the design, bu the color is just...ugh...

Waki Tobaye May 19th, 2010 6:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Missingno.7-4468 (Post 5813857)
Only thing I am disappointed in is the color of the Water starter. I love the design, bu the color is just...ugh...

I agree; I actually expected it to be the best of the starters when the shadows were leaked but... It turned being the worst one.
And... why is it white? Why white? I thought it was an otter, not a snowman D:

adhdguitar May 19th, 2010 6:28 PM

I know I'm just repeating what was already said, but I am very disappointed in the lack of Pokemon following you.

MistahDude May 19th, 2010 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by adhdguitar (Post 5813884)
I know I'm just repeating what was already said, but I am very disappointed in the lack of Pokemon following you.

you can most likely turn it off, or it looked weird with the 3D

Ashe~ May 19th, 2010 6:56 PM

I dont like the way the new pokemon look and the 3D :|

jbs829 May 19th, 2010 7:34 PM

im not that impressed overall with the starters, i just hope their evolutions are cooler. i love the new battle system, i was speechless when i first saw the clip, made me want to play now.

Kirbychu May 19th, 2010 7:46 PM

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Originally Posted by adhdguitar (Post 5813884)
I know I'm just repeating what was already said, but I am very disappointed in the lack of Pokemon following you.

This. I'm still not giving up hope though.

Lightning Sage™ May 19th, 2010 8:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kon~ (Post 5812934)
Something you have to think about there is that they have to make walking sprites for every single Pokémon there is, which would take a while to sprite and program, and they also wouldn't want to accidentally reveal Pokémon in early videos. My money is on the idea that there will be Walking Pokémon. We just haven't seen them yet.

This quote somes it up. So stop complaining about this k?

I realy don't have any dissapointments (yet) I mean the game has yet to even be fully revealed who knows whats in store

vibratingcat May 20th, 2010 1:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightning Sage™ (Post 5814171)
This quote somes it up. So stop complaining about this k?

I realy don't have any dissapointments (yet) I mean the game has yet to even be fully revealed who knows whats in store

... i feel like i've repeated myself a bit too many. but anyway... they probs wont put the walking feature in, as its a ds. it cant take everything. u cant keep on stuffing stuff into it. with the adition of new graphics, more sprites for battle as they are moving now, there aint any room for the walking feature, especially when their is going to be more pokemon and the graphics have changed.
my complaint is that i felt they rushed this generation. i mean in the year they first released the new pokemon, they have the games? its cool but i wished they waited a bit longer so that it could come out on the next gen handheld. as somebody said earlier, the ds is coming to its end of its life-span.

Swift! May 20th, 2010 8:42 AM

I don't think there is anything wrong with the 5th Gen so far. All the screenies have shown nothing but improvement since past games. I for one love the currently revealed Pokemon, the more in depth 3D, the two protagonists, the fact that Pokemon aren't static during battles and the battles in general. I believe that Black and White are going to be just as big milestones in the Pokemon franchise as any other game has been so far.

Eurydice May 20th, 2010 8:51 AM

i really only have one complaint because i havent really seen enough of the games to know what i like and dont like. the only thing i dont like from the few screenshots we have got is that there are no pokemon following you. i have waited since yellow and they finally bring it back and now it looks like its gone again :( oh well the rest of the game looks amazing.

Haza May 20th, 2010 12:10 PM

Thus far, the only disappointment I have is that a Pokemon has not been shown following the trainer, even though it is not 100% confirmed... the feature made the games feel less lonely and more personal.

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE May 20th, 2010 1:14 PM

I don't like the look of the water or fire starter, but that's about it. Their evolutions will probably be better anyways :)

Bluerang1 May 20th, 2010 1:36 PM

Follow Me feature not being confirmed yet. Though, I'll understand if they don't have it. Besides that, Mijuramu. Seriously T__T

Kingler5 May 20th, 2010 4:11 PM

honestly, i just hope they don't make any annoying ones like that Piplup.

that martyr is a bad nuisance to children and should be thrown in prison for being created!

*Let's Cross our claws and hope for the best.*

livelyhans May 20th, 2010 5:24 PM

i'm really bad-surprised... with the next 5th gen...appeared... they didn't make us satisfied...with this generation...i'm disappointed especially with the da back sprites in battle..... and the all the starters...... u know what.. when Zoroa and Zoroark published.. i really love it...i think the starters will be perfect as Zoroark...but i hate instead of happy...that's the negative point.. and about the positive point.. hmm.. i like when the character walkin' around the city.... i watch it via youtube.. it's cool.. okay.. i thnk overall is 60.....

15ares May 20th, 2010 6:44 PM

whats up with the pokemon designs? they look like they were designed by six year olds, like many pokemon from gen 4 (bidoof XD). i like zoroarks design, the 3d, and a new region to explore. i also like the feeling of anticipation for these games coming up =D

shookie May 20th, 2010 6:57 PM

Man, so much hatin' on the starters. :( I actually think they're all pretty cute.

I'm not going to pass judgment on a game that's barely been released, and I highly doubt there's a lot they could do that would make me go "This is a terrible terrible premise" short of, uh, getting rid of the whole...Pokémon part of Pokémon.
Whether or not they implement the Follow Me feature isn't exactly game-breaking imo. Sure, it's cute, but it's not like it added a whole new aspect to the game that made it so much more interesting.

Safetyfirst May 20th, 2010 7:03 PM

Yeah, I like the starters too! :) But the water one looks like Piplup :P

0m3GA ARS3NAL May 21st, 2010 1:28 AM

I am terribly disappointed in 2 of 3 of the starter sprites.
I like the grass one, unbearably cute IMO.

Though I'll get over it like I got over the look of Turtwig, Prinplup and *shutters* ugh... Carnivine...


Though I would only truly be disappointed in this game if the main points of the game were LARGE CITIES.

I like forests and routes and mountains and quiet villages as much as teh next person.
AS WELL as I absolutely love cityscapes, but if it's all cities, no... middle of nowhere scenarios... I'll be sad.

Danikamakaze May 21st, 2010 1:47 AM

IMO Pokabu and Mijumaru are retarded.
I know who I'll be starting out with >.<;;

Maybe their final evolution will make me think again about how silly their designs are.


But that's just my opinion, not hating on others people love for
the otter with a flacid penis on it's tummy Mijumaru and Pokabu.

0m3GA ARS3NAL May 21st, 2010 1:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Danikamakaze (Post 5817054)
the otter with a flacid penis on it's tummy

We have kids on this site thank you very much.
Though me quoting it in big red letters probably doesn't help that much...

I thought of another thing that would be disappointing...
Guys...

guys

Guys.

Guys listen.

I have the worst ide

guys listen

I have the worst idea ever

guys
What if they'll put WINGS


guys

wings

What if they'll put WINGS
guys listen here

What if they'll put WINGS... on their BACK legs.

Can you imagine it, a flying type with wings on the back legs...
Imagine a reverse Gligar...
*shutters*

Arma May 21st, 2010 2:02 AM

I don't really got complaints but I don't like the way they've merged the pokecenter in a huge skyscraper, It kinda looks lame and unrealistic.

0m3GA ARS3NAL May 21st, 2010 2:13 AM

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Originally Posted by elarmasecreta (Post 5817074)
I don't really got complaints but I don't like the way they've merged the pokecenter in a huge skyscraper, It kinda looks lame and unrealistic.

What about the Pokemon Center's in real life?
They look totally out of place and unrealistic, but hey, they are noticeable and easy to spot from a distance, making it easy to heal up before a battle.

(That and in real cities, you'll see restaurants and stores on the bottom floors of huge skyscrapers, they look totally out of place and unrealistic, but that's real life...)

I guess that is what pokemon is doing now though... trying to be more realistic...
They've even started trying to appeal to an older crowd, by making the protagonists look like teens.

WHERE IS THE ACNE, I WANNA SEE SOME ACNE ON THOSE TEENYBOPPERS!!!

In any case, Pokemon seems to be on a downhill slope, but who knows, maybe in a year and a half when this game hits the US I'll be one of those crazed fans willing to break into a gamestop just to steal a copy before release...
>__>
<__<

TheNewRocketMovement May 21st, 2010 2:32 AM

I can't stand any of the starters.

They're probably gonna make far too many legends again. (I think there are now over 30 legendaries, they might come close to doubling that number in Gen 5)

Surely they could have called them something better than Black and White, I think Ebony and Ivory would be nicer choices.

Why... WHY IS THERE A POKEMON CENTRE ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR OF A HUGE SKYSCRAPER? Have somewhere to heal your Pokemon inside if neccecary, but they didn't have to ruin the design of the building by putting in a tiny out of place Pokemon center.

Also, Team Rocket probably won't be making a comeback for this generation, and even if they did they'd probably be pushovers again...

Remember when cacthing 150 Pokemon seemed like a HUGE task? It looks like those days are gone forever...

0m3GA ARS3NAL May 21st, 2010 2:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheNewRocketMovement (Post 5817085)
Why... WHY IS THERE A POKEMON CENTRE ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR OF A HUGE SKYSCRAPER? Have somewhere to heal your Pokemon inside if neccecary, but they didn't have to ruin the design of the building by putting in a tiny out of place Pokemon center.

Because when a company buys out a section of a building (As most big buildings aren't owned by one single person, but have many companies inside) they can make them look like whatever they want.
Mind you we have a McDonalds here and it rests at the very bottom of a gigantic skyscraper.
The thing looks WAY out of place, aesthetically distasteful, BUT, it draws attention, and it is NOT a normal sight.
A pretty good marketing ploy.... BUT... this is pokemon, Pokemon Centers are FREE, why would they need to attract attention?
Because a small red building would in fact probably look more out of place by itself than with a big building on top of it.
All those tall buildings towering over this small little Pokemon Center...
It also makes it seem like there is more uses for those oh so plentiful blank buildings that serve no purpose other than scenery in the pokemon world.

Like I said, heading downhill... lol

~Wind~ May 21st, 2010 11:10 AM

my only problem is a tiny tiny small one, tsutajas sprite is a bit...
strange? what with the pointy nose, other than that its looking great, zoroark made me so happy!
he reminds me of 3rd gen, my favourite gen, great enviroments, great pokes, great extras (like the animation of kyogre, groudon and rayquaza at the end of the storyline) and great characters!

Wind

Okami Chi May 21st, 2010 11:27 AM

So far there is not one thing I can find that I don't like. Maybe the Starters changed a bit but that's it. Good job Nintendo. :D

Esmas May 21st, 2010 11:38 AM

Mainly, I'm disappointed that they hadn't created new sprites for the old Pokémon (like Entei and Raikou are both the same), and I especially hate the moving backsprites...ugh...Street Fighter all over again!

Though nothing is bad enough for me to throw the games at the wall yet, I'm just disappointed with the fact that they haven't released more!

Yingxue May 21st, 2010 11:45 AM

My disappointment is that people can't wait for the official release of the game to judge things like battle backgrounds/music/etc; and completely fail to take into account that the screenshots/video are likely beta versions of what's to come. -,-

~Azure- May 21st, 2010 1:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jewel of Life (Post 5811391)
My disappointment is that in all of the screenshots there was no pokemon walking around behind the trainer. What gives? I liked having my pokmeon with me in Heartgold and Soulsilver. \./

Agreed. 4th Gen will still be most epic gen because of the pokemons walking behind trainer.

Esmas May 21st, 2010 2:34 PM

That too ^ That was the greatest feature of any game, as it felt like a more personal game.

Oh, and I'm also wondering about the heroine's hair...what is that thing? O___o

LikeUberHackFan May 21st, 2010 3:43 PM

The Girl needs a major hair change imo..

Xanatos13 May 21st, 2010 4:06 PM

I think it's looking awesome thus far. ^_^ I've enjoyed following them from the R/B days, and they just get better with time. (Except R/S... They were "Eh.") Like the Grass starter. XD

Illustration May 21st, 2010 5:03 PM

So far, I'm quite disappointed with the designs of the protagonists. They look generic, unlike the other playable characters in Pokemon.

I'm not sure if they're supposed to look generic, but surely, I could just walk around my neighborhood and find anybody that would be dressed like them.

rockman0 May 21st, 2010 5:18 PM

I don't have any problems with the game so far. I love everything about it including the 3D, the starters, the fact that the trainers are older and how they based the region on another country. We've already seen some revolutionary content with the little information we have now.

~Azure- May 21st, 2010 8:36 PM

Oh another thing that I completely forgot about before. I don't like the theme to it :S With the new region being more Industrial or w/e. I liked the 'poor' theme lol. Can't always get want we want can we :\

electimortar May 21st, 2010 9:25 PM

Ahem, I hope you guys do know that the sprites are animated.

yaywalter May 21st, 2010 11:19 PM

My two complaints: The starter Pokemon are horrible, and the battle backgrounds are dull.

Everything else looks awesome though.

Timbjerr May 22nd, 2010 3:42 AM

The only real disappointing thing is that the game isn't in my hands yet. XD

If you want me to nitpick though, I think putting it on the DS as opposed to the 3DS is a huge mistake. With how ambitious this game is, I can imagine space limitations being a huge factor, such as perhaps being the culprit behind the loss of the pokemon following you feature, and may hinder other aspects including the number of new pokemon, the number of new attacks, etc...

Also, if you stop complaining about pokemon designs, they will grow on you. I hated Turtwig and Piplup when they were revealed, but I've come to like them more than Chimchar, who I expected to be my favorite. Same applies to over half of the new evolutions added in GenIV.

Vrai May 22nd, 2010 5:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 5819408)
The only real disappointing thing is that the game isn't in my hands yet. XD

If you want me to nitpick though, I think putting it on the DS as opposed to the 3DS is a huge mistake. With how ambitious this game is, I can imagine space limitations being a huge factor, such as perhaps being the culprit behind the loss of the pokemon following you feature, and may hinder other aspects including the number of new pokemon, the number of new attacks, etc...

Also, if you stop complaining about pokemon designs, they will grow on you. I hated Turtwig and Piplup when they were revealed, but I've come to like them more than Chimchar, who I expected to be my favorite. Same applies to over half of the new evolutions added in GenIV.

I've already had Mijumaru and Pokabu grow on me. Both are like contending for my pick, and that was previously only a job for Tsujata. ;;

Ataraxia May 22nd, 2010 5:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 5819408)
Also, if you stop complaining about pokemon designs, they will grow on you.

True, but I really, really, really, really, really, REALLY wish Nintendo would STOP MAKING POKEMON OUT OF ANIMALS?!?! Seriously!! If you have no more ideas; STOP.

Esmas May 22nd, 2010 6:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ataraxia (Post 5819597)
True, but I really, really, really, really, really, REALLY wish Nintendo would STOP MAKING POKEMON OUT OF ANIMALS?!?! Seriously!! If you have no more ideas; STOP.

Well, what are you supposed to make them out of? Inanimate objects?
Rotom says hi.

Sammuthegreat May 22nd, 2010 6:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 5819408)

Also, if you stop complaining about pokemon designs, they will grow on you. I hated Turtwig and Piplup when they were revealed, but I've come to like them more than Chimchar, who I expected to be my favorite. Same applies to over half of the new evolutions added in GenIV.

Indeed; I expected to like Chimchar best before I saw the starters' final evolutions, although I quite liked Turtwig and Piplup too. But when I saw their final stages, Infernape was easily my least favourite... Luckily I traded to start with all three, but otherwise my tradition of using the Fire-type starter would have been under threat.

Yingxue May 22nd, 2010 6:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ataraxia (Post 5819597)
True, but I really, really, really, really, really, REALLY wish Nintendo would STOP MAKING POKEMON OUT OF ANIMALS?!?! Seriously!! If you have no more ideas; STOP.

A lot of them are based on abstract concepts, like the pixie trio of gen IV.

Most of them have some basis in Eastern mythology (IE Arceus is based on the Qilin, a mythical hoofed creature that shaped the universe). Even Dunsparce, it's based on a mythological animal in Japanese folklore.

I think, though, other than legends/folklore, what else is there to base Pokemon off of besides animals?

Mew~ May 22nd, 2010 7:01 AM

I don't really think im dissapointed with anything so far to be honest :D I am a bit sad about the follow me feature being scraped though :(

pikapip26 May 22nd, 2010 9:25 AM

there's no follow me feature T_T

Timbjerr May 22nd, 2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ataraxia (Post 5819597)
True, but I really, really, really, really, really, REALLY wish Nintendo would STOP MAKING POKEMON OUT OF ANIMALS?!?! Seriously!! If you have no more ideas; STOP.

CAPSLOCK = SRS BSNSS MIRITE?

Well, what else do you expect pokemon to be based on? even back in the glory days of RBY, the vast majority of pokemon were animalistic in nature. Nothing wrong with that...just a way of making the Pokemon world analogous to the real world.

Besides, we only have five known genV pokemon. There could still be many more artificial and inorganic pokemon introduced.

PiPVoda May 22nd, 2010 1:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbjerr (Post 5819408)
The only real disappointing thing is that the game isn't in my hands yet. XD

If you want me to nitpick though, I think putting it on the DS as opposed to the 3DS is a huge mistake. With how ambitious this game is, I can imagine space limitations being a huge factor, such as perhaps being the culprit behind the loss of the pokemon following you feature, and may hinder other aspects including the number of new pokemon, the number of new attacks, etc...

Also, if you stop complaining about pokemon designs, they will grow on you. I hated Turtwig and Piplup when they were revealed, but I've come to like them more than Chimchar, who I expected to be my favorite. Same applies to over half of the new evolutions added in GenIV.

You know that is exactly what I was thinking but then some people were like "putting it on the 3DS would be a stupid idea since most people probably wouldn't buy the system anyways." I don't mind it being on the DS. Still I can't wait for the 3DS and would love it if Gen 5 is on it. I figure it's too late to put it on the 3DS now, and it seems like an incredibly stupid idea to introduce a new system then put one of the best selling video game series on its predecessor. Maybe Nintendo just has something in store for us regarding that. I mean it may not be too late to make the platform switch or offer the games on both the DS and 3DS.

Hybrid Trainer May 22nd, 2010 1:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 0m3GA ARS3NAL (Post 5817098)
Because when a company buys out a section of a building (As most big buildings aren't owned by one single person, but have many companies inside) they can make them look like whatever they want.
Mind you we have a McDonalds here and it rests at the very bottom of a gigantic skyscraper.
The thing looks WAY out of place, aesthetically distasteful, BUT, it draws attention, and it is NOT a normal sight.
A pretty good marketing ploy.... BUT... this is pokemon, Pokemon Centers are FREE, why would they need to attract attention?
Because a small red building would in fact probably look more out of place by itself than with a big building on top of it.
All those tall buildings towering over this small little Pokemon Center...
It also makes it seem like there is more uses for those oh so plentiful blank buildings that serve no purpose other than scenery in the pokemon world.


i think your forgeting that pokemarts are going to be inside pokemon centers now.

Timbjerr May 22nd, 2010 1:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PiPVoda (Post 5820547)
You know that is exactly what I was thinking but then some people were like "putting it on the 3DS would be a stupid idea since most people probably wouldn't buy the system anyways." I don't mind it being on the DS. Still I can't wait for the 3DS and would love it if Gen 5 is on it. I figure it's too late to put it on the 3DS now, and it seems like an incredibly stupid idea to introduce a new system then put one of the best selling video game series on its predecessor. Maybe Nintendo just has something in store for us regarding that. I mean it may not be too late to make the platform switch or offer the games on both the DS and 3DS.

True...this brings to mind what happened with Twilight Princess. Nintendo was adamant in reminding everyone that it was developed for the GameCube, but eventually made it multi-platform for the Wii after its first delay. Though I highly doubt that this will be the case here, it is possible. :P

RocketAdmin. May 22nd, 2010 2:34 PM

The general surroundings suck, to be honest. You can see where the tiles join, the walls are blocky, etc. Let's just hope it's a prototype! :)

rockman0 May 23rd, 2010 12:48 PM

Well, yea, it is a prototype, isn't it? I mean, if it wasn't and the game was completed fully, wouldn't we know more about it than we do now? But I actually like the industrial theme. I hope one of those skyscrapers is a division of the Silph Co. or Devon Co. that we can visit.

Harmony May 23rd, 2010 1:54 PM

I don't have any major complaints, but I don't really like the way the new main charachters look. The girl looks like she's in dire need of some hairspray and the boy... I can't really find anything to say about him.. I just don't like him much. haha

Azzurra May 24th, 2010 10:58 PM

I can't really say I've found anything disappointing about Black/White yet. But, it is only early days after all and I may just change my mind.

Droidz May 24th, 2010 11:49 PM

The only thing i find a little weird is the battleing but i don't hate it.

Azzurra May 25th, 2010 2:52 AM

The new interface does seem a bit different, but I'm sure in time everyone will adapt like the previous versions. I mean, besides. It's not that different, really.

fenyx4 May 25th, 2010 9:55 AM

I hope that the Pokemon-following-you feature returns from HGSS as an option that you can turn on and off at your will. I wouldn't mind if the HGSS overworld Pokemon sprites were reused, because it seems kind of daunting to create such sprites for the previously released 493 Pokemon again, plus the who-knows-how-many Pokemon being introduced in Generation V. As long as they made new overworld sprite for the new Generation V Pokemon and add those to the 493 overworld Pokemon, I would be content. I'm surprised that Nintendo went through the trouble to make shiny overworld Pokemon variants as well. With that much effort invested for just 2 games, I hardly think that this particular feature is going to be axed in BW after all that work...

Other than that, no complaints so far! I'm kind of hoping that the "third version" (Gray?) comes out on the Nintendo 3DS to permit for even more expansive features...

blue May 25th, 2010 10:08 AM

I hope theres an option for the 'Follow Me' to be turned off or on, else from what we can see, there is NO follow me feature :(

Vecransyh May 25th, 2010 5:54 PM

IMO the starters are the stupidest looking ever. No they are not cute, the green one looks so smug I want to punch it in the face.

Anyway yeah...what everyone else has said, 3d was a bad idea, too many pokemans.

Serin May 25th, 2010 6:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 5813054)
Only disappointed thus far in how pixelated the back sprites are in battle. I can see that annoying me quite a bit. Hopefully this will either look better on a DS screen that's in front of my hands, or they do a better job with the actual pixel work.

I think everything else so far looks fantastic though.

Your one of a few people that said this. I think it could have just been the pictures.

Battle scene. The outline pixels do look a bit large because of how the backsprite is so close to you, but I think it would be easily look passed because of the quality of the sprites and animations.
h t t p://w w w.youtube.c o m/watch?v=XBIv2Ql2W5s&feature=related (no spaces)

My only complaint is the starters. So far the Grass Snake thing has grown on me and I've taken a liking to it, but the other two are just butt ugly.

Bloothump May 25th, 2010 7:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jewel of Life (Post 5811391)
My disappointment is that in all of the screenshots there was no pokemon walking around behind the trainer. What gives? I liked having my pokmeon with me in Heartgold and Soulsilver. \./

You know, I'm pretty glad they kept out the sprites. Sure, when I first started HG it was pretty cool to be trailed by a buddy all the time. But as it progressed, it lost it's appeal for me, and after realizing that 80% of the OW sprites were horrendously malformed, I just kind of wanted an off button. That being said, I was glad it was implemented into the remake, because, being a remake, HGSS needed some extra appeal. However, I think the new generation can and should go without the sprites, because with a new region to explore, new pokemon to catch, and a (slightly) new storyline, I personally will forget all about the following pokes. Besides, I prefer enhanced graphics and moving sprites over ugly stalkermons.

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Originally Posted by TheNewRocketMovement (Post 5817085)
I can't stand any of the starters.

Maybe if you quit thinking negatively and give each one a good long look, and think of their good features, you'll realize they're not so bad.

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They're probably gonna make far too many legends again. (I think there are now over 30 legendaries, they might come close to doubling that number in Gen 5)
W-what? Where did you even get this assumption? Seriously? Not one legendary has been released, and you're complaining that there are too many? I just don't understand.

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Surely they could have called them something better than Black and White, I think Ebony and Ivory would be nicer choices.
I think they were going for the whole "standard colors" deal from first gen.

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Why... WHY IS THERE A POKEMON CENTRE ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR OF A HUGE SKYSCRAPER? Have somewhere to heal your Pokemon inside if neccecary, but they didn't have to ruin the design of the building by putting in a tiny out of place Pokemon center.
I agree, the should have placed the center near the docks or something, a little far from the actual city. But it's just one pokemon center, so, meh.

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Also, Team Rocket probably won't be making a comeback for this generation, and even if they did they'd probably be pushovers again...
Quoth foreign rocket member from HGSS: "I will go to home country and rebuild Team Rocket!" ...or something like that. Not saying they will be there but it's possible...

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Remember
when cacthing 150 Pokemon seemed like a HUGE task? It looks like those days are gone forever...
Well, make catching the 150 pokes of the Standard Dex your goal?

PiPVoda May 25th, 2010 8:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pokemongarnet (Post 5813474)
Mijamaru...... he is the worst water starter period>.

hmm, wonder why I didn't see this comment when I was browsing through the other posts.

here we go with more complaining. Honestly I don't see how you could say Miju is the worst water starter when you don't even know it's moves, stats, or evolutions yet. Don't let appearance fool you. I'm gonna lmao if Mijumaru evolves into some kick ass evo and proves comments like these wrong. As a water lover I don't think there is one water starter that is the worst of the bunch. They all have their own flaws.

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Originally Posted by Waki Tobaye (Post 5813861)
I agree; I actually expected it to be the best of the starters when the shadows were leaked but... It turned being the worst one.
And... why is it white? Why white? I thought it was an otter, not a snowman D:

Sea otters have round heads, and some have white fur as well which explains why Miju's head is white. They also have freckles and maybe with all of that combined it just appears as if Miju is a clown instead of a sea otter (they could have used diff. colors but it grows on you). In addition to that sea otters have the thickest fur of all mammals and underneath they store air in it for warmth (which may be why Miju has that patch of fur beneath its neck). I honestly think people would understand Mijumaru more if they took the time to look up facts about sea otters..oh and they're labeled as endangered species so Miju should be receiving more love :D.

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Originally Posted by elarmasecreta (Post 5817074)
I don't really got complaints but I don't like the way they've merged the pokecenter in a huge skyscraper, It kinda looks lame and unrealistic.

Unrealistic? Have you seen some of the skylines in this world? They go from flat to 45-60 floor high rises in a sec in some areas. A perfect example to back up my claims, but just on a larger scale would be the supertall Toky Sky Tree http://www.japantrends.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/skytree.jpg

If you ask me, the pokemon center may look a tad bit off but it still fits in well.

SinisterEternity May 26th, 2010 12:44 AM

Uuh...Imo, I'd say...Yes >.>
Some Disappointments on the starters :

-Tsutaja actually reminds me of a mix between Treecko and Cindaquil Cx
-I also found the pokemons are looking more and more circular (but maybe it's just me XD)
-The crowd : it's almost always the same men and girls we're seeing who run Cx Always the same man with the same luggage, and the way they run is weird (detail, I know x3)
-And I'd rather play a 2.5D game like HG or SS then a weird 3D one
-Also, I didn't like the starters at all...So what are the new pokemons going to be like ? Cx
-I'd have prefered a "real" world to discover than just a city, too
- The fact Sprites are animated is a good thing, would have been better if not too pixelated, in my opinion :[

Overall, I'm not sure weither I'll buy it or not, depends on what news we're getting in the coming days and weeks C:

Ger Japa May 28th, 2010 6:42 AM

I don't like any of the starters. They look stupid!!!


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