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Åzurε May 28th, 2010 8:42 AM

Victini, Zekrom and Reshiram Discussion Thread
 
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This thread is for discussion of only Victini, Zekrom and Reshiram, discussion of other legendaries belongs here, because they were released at a later date.
For clarification:
Reshiram is only obtainable in Black Version, whereas Zekrom is only obtainable in White Version.

That oughta do it.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/6/60/494Victini.png/481px-494Victini.png
http://i46.*.com/10ptu2e.png

What'cha think? The white one is Reshiram, and the black is Zekrom. The black one reminds me of a monochrome Palkia...

UPDATES:

I've added Rukario's pictures of the individual Pokemon to thumbnails.
Both Pokemon are apparently Dragon-type. No word on if they'll have another type or what it would be.
Zekrom may possibly be part Electric type, but as of yet it's still unconfirmed.
Zekrom is definitely Elec/Dragon, and Reshiram is now confirmed as Fire/Dragon.
For the last time, Zekrom=White, Reshiram=Black!

dieter57 May 28th, 2010 8:45 AM

yes! epic win! but now i don't know which game to bye. maybe i'll just get both.

Sylveon May 28th, 2010 8:46 AM

Cool. I agree with you the black one also reminds me of Palkia..

Åzurε May 28th, 2010 8:47 AM

Right now, I'm going for whichever one has the black one (So White? [No, Black {Nope, White}]). I like the mother-of-pearl type thing going on with Reshi's bands.

shot571 May 28th, 2010 8:48 AM

zekrom for the win. these arent too bad

Okami Chi May 28th, 2010 8:49 AM

This is 100% real?! They look so awesome! Didn't get to check the update today, so if it is real: 10/10! :D

SolarAbusoru May 28th, 2010 8:50 AM

I instantly fell in love with them

dieter57 May 28th, 2010 8:50 AM

new games = new type???
 
does anyone else here think with the new legends that they are gona make any new types?

i'm hoping for a light type. badly.

Agent Clank May 28th, 2010 8:51 AM

I am getting Reshiram.
There both so Awesome!
I cant wait to see what kind of Special Attacks they can do :)

The Doctor May 28th, 2010 8:53 AM

Whoah they look awesome.

The white guy looks like Epicness in a bowl

Blue_Drifblim May 28th, 2010 8:53 AM

You can also go to the US Pokemon site to see them.

Sage Harpuia May 28th, 2010 8:53 AM

They are very cool... but I think I prefer I like more the white one, even if it has the arms fused with the wings...it's a bit weird.

WindBlows May 28th, 2010 8:55 AM

I'm choosing Zekrom. It's an epic win.

dieter57 May 28th, 2010 8:56 AM

i can't wait to see how they incorporate them into the story line!
what are there meaning?
what is there types?
why them?

Rich Boy Rob May 28th, 2010 8:58 AM

:O they are so sexy. I've no idea which one I like better, though I'm thinking possibly Zekrom (despite the jet turbine it appears to have on it's tail XD). They're just both so damned awesome!

EDIT: What typings do you think they'll be? I'm thinking either Psychic/Dragon, Flying/Dragon or Psychic/Flying for Reshiram and either Dark/Dragon, Steel/Dragon or Dark/Steel.

Pyrax May 28th, 2010 9:00 AM

But what's with the their tales? O.o
They DO resemble digimon a bit.

The Doctor May 28th, 2010 9:00 AM

A sound type would be cool.

WindBlows May 28th, 2010 9:01 AM

In japanese site, there are 4 videos. 3 videos of the starters, and one of the city. Those videos are new.

Okami Chi May 28th, 2010 9:01 AM

Doesn't the black one look like a Gundam Wing mixed with Palkia?! Really it does!

Åzurε May 28th, 2010 9:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyrax (Post 5836112)
But what's with the their tales? O.o
They DO resemble digimon a bit.

Feh, a little bit. But then, they all do these days, don't they? <_<

The tail on Zekrom kind of says "Slowbro".

Lanturnista May 28th, 2010 9:02 AM

The black one... ugh. Just ugh. Sorry, but it looks ugly to me.

The white one, however, is AWESOME. <3 I may have a new favorite Legendary pretty soon.

Lanturnista May 28th, 2010 9:04 AM

I think it would be nice to have a Light-type. But seeing as Gens III and IV had no new types, I doubt it.

Zeph. May 28th, 2010 9:04 AM

Holy crap! :O I think I just jizzed!

Zekrom looks like Dark/Steel to me. Hopefully Reshiram is the first pure flying type. :D

The Doctor May 28th, 2010 9:05 AM

I think one or maybe two types will be brought out. Pokemon really have covered most.

Light - A Light Eeveelution
Sound - Whismur

Åzurε May 28th, 2010 9:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeph. (Post 5836127)
Holy crap! :O I think I just jizzed!

Zekrom looks like Dark/Steel to me. Hopefully Reshiram is the first pure flying type. :D

I'd search "Made of win" on Google images for you, but I'm not up to it. Pure flying, Pure flying, Pure flying...

Swift! May 28th, 2010 9:06 AM

Ok, I've made my decision. I'm going to get White version. Zekrom FTW!

Okami Chi May 28th, 2010 9:07 AM

Dark Steel would get pwned. Even though I do have to agree with the type. The other looks Normal Flying. Maybe psychic flying. Also reminds me of Lugia. Could be a Spec. Deff/Deff Wall. or Spec. Attacker. The other one looks like Attack Speed or Attack Deff.

Usagi-Chan~ May 28th, 2010 9:08 AM

I'm getting both, and it's already been dated for America in spring 2010:

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=125108

EDIT: On topic though, I love them both!!! x3

dieter57 May 28th, 2010 9:08 AM

it would be awesome if reshiram was light type and zekrom was dark.

Kenshin5 May 28th, 2010 9:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Boy Rob (Post 5836108)
:O they are so sexy. I've no idea which one I like better, though I'm thinking possibly Zekrom (despite the jet turbine it appears to have on it's tail XD). They're just both so damned awesome!

EDIT: What typings do you think they'll be? I'm thinking either Psychic/Dragon, Flying/Dragon or Psychic/Flying for Reshiram and either Dark/Dragon, Steel/Dragon or Dark/Steel.

This is what I thought as well the tails looks like jet engines. Maybe they will have a new type "Light" type and the white pokemon will represent that type. I kind of doubt that though.

Kai Yamato May 28th, 2010 9:09 AM

They look like Yu-Gi-Oh monsters. o_O

Sage Harpuia May 28th, 2010 9:11 AM

Two things: there is already a thread like this: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=218894
second: light type is covered by psychic (and the white legend look like a psychic type to me);
sound "exist": some moves have the sound factor, and for this the ability of wishmur stops them.

Ryden May 28th, 2010 9:14 AM

I think I like the White one more, there something about it that makes me think "pretty" The black one look like it has a Slowbro tail >_>

Lanturnista May 28th, 2010 9:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryden (Post 5836158)
I think I like the White one more, there something about it that makes me think "pretty"

Exactly what I thought, the second I saw it. It's very pretty. <3 I have a feeling it'll end up being female.

dieter57 May 28th, 2010 9:20 AM

but we wood like to actually have a "sound and light type" not factors of each.

Masterge77 May 28th, 2010 9:20 AM

Personally, they look way too Digimon like (especially with season 6 coming next month, seriously, the black one looks like freaking BlackWarGreymon mixed with Palkia), and Dragon mascots again, we can't have two dragon trios, we already have Dialga/Palkia/Giratina. Also they revealed their english names on the english site first, when it's Japan that announces the new Pokemon first, not the States, if these are the engish names, then they should have revealed the english names for the already known Gen V Pokemon, Zorua and Zoroark will, like most movie centered Pokemon, likely have the same names in english, the starters however..... well, did you know that Piplup was originally going to keep it's Japanese name for the english versions of Diamond and Pearl, seriously, I'm not lying at all, they actually planned this in the early stages of the games translation ("Piplup" is an ugly name anyways, I like "Pochama" better, seriously, doesn't "Piplup" sound gay to you.....), so as long as they give the starters decent names

Now just watch, they proabably will show these two at the end of this weeks Pokemon Sunday, and then in next months CoroCoro (possibly with other gen 5 Pokemon, I doubt it really, unless Pokemon Sunday reveals shilloutes this week as well)

They're nothing of what I expected, I was expecting along the lines of a Kitsune and a Tanuki, with a Nekomata (Twin tailed Cat) for the third version, now I will have to recolor my concepts and add them to my fangame in progress......

Liraxus May 28th, 2010 9:21 AM

To start off, i fell in love with these things from the start, and i cannot wait till the official sprites are revealed, but still, i think Pokemon is running out of ideas, still, you NEVER know, Pokemon might surprise us yet with the minor Legends.

Sage Harpuia May 28th, 2010 9:22 AM

Looking carefully at them I guess:
-for reshiram: psychic, psychic-dragon, psychic-flying, psychic-steel
-for zekrom: dark, dark-dragon, dark-flying, dark-steel :)

Elise May 28th, 2010 9:26 AM

Reshiram all the way for me! I love how he has the spikes but also a flowing ... uh.. thing coming from the head. And I think white is really cool, very plain but the did spice it up with the shinys on the rings around his neck. I like him a lot. ^_^ I'm even more excited for B/W to come out now!!!

Dillon_68 May 28th, 2010 9:30 AM

LOVE the legendaries! I like how the white legendary is in Black Version and vice-versa, nice change of pace. Not to mention that white on white and black on black look weird.

Ian Watkins May 28th, 2010 9:32 AM

I think I have to get the game with that sexy looking White one now. God, they lok pretty awesome.

giorgos May 28th, 2010 9:33 AM

i think that the legendarie will be like that Reshiram for (Pokémon Black Version) and Zekrom for (Pokémon White Version)

Timbjerr May 28th, 2010 9:36 AM

How amusing.

When Zoroark was revealed a couple months back, the reaction was very mixed, and when the starters were revealed earlier this month, the reaction was mostly negative. But with these two, the reaction is almost unanimously positive. I'm wondering why. From where I'm sitting, there's barely any difference in quality between the seven known GenV pokemon (I personally think they're all pretty cool), yet the reaction si different every time there's an unveiling. XD

Rukario May 28th, 2010 9:36 AM

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here are the legendaries in a clean, bigger image:

Nick May 28th, 2010 9:41 AM

Reshiram is nice looking... but Zekrom, what in the world is that?

institutions May 28th, 2010 9:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Usagi-Chan~ (Post 5836137)
I'm getting both, and it's already been dated for America in spring 2010:

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=125108

EDIT: On topic though, I love them both!!! x3

Arghhh. Damn your typo.
I read 'Spring 2010' and got VERY excited.
Then I clicked on the link and saw Spring 2011.
FDFGSSDF.

These guys look amazing. Definitely getting Black version.

Lanturnista May 28th, 2010 9:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rukario (Post 5836220)
here are the legendaries in a clean, bigger image:

Thank you. I was looking for something like that.
*saves Reshiram picture* <3

HunterX101 May 28th, 2010 9:45 AM

AMazing...those are just amazing.. Cant wait definitly getting White now. Thid finalized it..

Diabolico May 28th, 2010 9:47 AM

OMG, Are these two new legendaries for real? Where in the world did Rukario find them? =o

Myles May 28th, 2010 9:48 AM

I was leaning towards White, but thought I'd have to wait for the legendaries to decide. And Zekrom is so cool, so I guess White after all.

Although the Black legendary on the White version is a bit weird, I mean what's white about the game then? I guess we'll find out eventually.

giorgos May 28th, 2010 9:48 AM

Reshiram for black and Zekrom for white.so i am gonna buy white :D

Lanturnista May 28th, 2010 9:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kazzumX10 (Post 5836253)
Thanks for that post I learnt alot

You're welcome. I'm glad you did.

Also, can someone tell me why Reshiram is the Black mascot and the other one is the White mascot? It makes no sense to me. o-o

POKEMONMASTER260 May 28th, 2010 9:51 AM

ReshiRAM! ZekROM!
 
Computers, anyone? Hmm...

EDIT: Also, Reshi = Rashi; Ezekiel = Zek

Nina May 28th, 2010 9:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kai Yamato (Post 5836145)
They look like Yu-Gi-Oh monsters. o_O

Blue Eyes White Dragon, Red Eyes Black Dragon? xD;

I like the White one. : )
The only thing I don't like about big crazy legendaries is the face they must always be off on a rampage about something. But they wouldn't be big legendary beasts unless they were feared. Mah.

Åzurε May 28th, 2010 9:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myles (Post 5836261)
Although the Black legendary on the White version is a bit weird, I mean what's White about the game then? I guess we'll find out eventually.

That's just it. It's a contrast. Not only in the actual color, but a metaphorical contrast to the themed naming and mascots of the rest of the series! Brilliance!

Ryden May 28th, 2010 9:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanturnista (Post 5836174)
Exactly what I thought, the second I saw it. It's very pretty. <3 I have a feeling it'll end up being female.

I am too actually lol, and even if its not I will be naming as if it were one anyways

Rich Boy Rob May 28th, 2010 9:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterge77 (Post 5836176)
Personally, they look way too Digimon like (especially with season 6 coming next month, seriously, the black one looks like freaking BlackWarGreymon mixed with Palkia), and Dragon mascots again, we can't have two dragon trios, we already have Dialga/Palkia/Giratina. Also they revealed their english names on the english site first, when it's Japan that announces the new Pokemon first, not the States, if these are the engish names, then they should have revealed the english names for the already known Gen V Pokemon, Zorua and Zoroark will, like most movie centered Pokemon, likely have the same names in english, the starters however..... well, did you know that Piplup was originally going to keep it's Japanese name for the english versions of Diamond and Pearl, seriously, I'm not lying at all, they actually planned this in the early stages of the games translation ("Piplup" is an ugly name anyways, I like "Pochama" better, seriously, doesn't "Piplup" sound gay to you.....), so as long as they give the starters decent names

Just so you know, I'm pretty sure every legendary (apart from I think Heatran) has the same name in Japanese as in every other language.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazzumX10 (Post 5836253)
Thanks for that post I learnt alot

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Originally Posted by spelnate (Post 5836166)
Thanks for that post I learnt alot

As did I from you.

PiPVoda May 28th, 2010 9:55 AM

Definitely know Im sticking with black version now! If this is real then Zekrom looks amazing! I guess it's dark/steel?

Timbjerr May 28th, 2010 9:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Boy Rob (Post 5836273)
Just so you know, I'm pretty sure every legendary (apart from I think Heatran) has the same name in Japanese as in every other language.

Heatran's Japanese name was Hiidoran, so it's basically the same name, just a more Americanized spelling.

Also, Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf are the only legendaries to have changed named in different regions. :P

Myles May 28th, 2010 9:58 AM

@Azure: But the only thing they're contrasting with is the colour on the box, unless there's something white in-game. Normally the legendaries are pretty much the only connection to the version name, so there's now no connection at all (that we know of).

PiPVoda May 28th, 2010 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterge77 (Post 5836176)
Personally, they look way too Digimon like (especially with season 6 coming next month, seriously, the black one looks like freaking BlackWarGreymon mixed with Palkia), and Dragon mascots again, we can't have two dragon trios, we already have Dialga/Palkia/Giratina. Also they revealed their english names on the english site first, when it's Japan that announces the new Pokemon first, not the States, if these are the engish names, then they should have revealed the english names for the already known Gen V Pokemon, Zorua and Zoroark will, like most movie centered Pokemon, likely have the same names in english, the starters however..... well, did you know that Piplup was originally going to keep it's Japanese name for the english versions of Diamond and Pearl, seriously, I'm not lying at all, they actually planned this in the early stages of the games translation ("Piplup" is an ugly name anyways, I like "Pochama" better, seriously, doesn't "Piplup" sound gay to you.....), so as long as they give the starters decent names

Now just watch, they proabably will show these two at the end of this weeks Pokemon Sunday, and then in next months CoroCoro (possibly with other gen 5 Pokemon, I doubt it really, unless Pokemon Sunday reveals shilloutes this week as well)

They're nothing of what I expected, I was expecting along the lines of a Kitsune and a Tanuki, with a Nekomata (Twin tailed Cat) for the third version, now I will have to recolor my concepts and add them to my fangame in progress......

Ummm, well yes something along the lines of Kitsune and Tanuki would have been cool but these are fine too. A twin-tailed cat...ehhhh...I don't know what to thikn of that. Zekrom sort of resembles a digimon but come on, you gotta give them props for the design (it's not too bad on either of them if you ask me).

Hmm, I don't see why you're making a big commotion about the names. Yes Japanese names usually come before English, yada yada but who is to say that these names won't be the ones that are shared in both Japan and the English-speaking world? I mean they don't have the change the names all the time.

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Originally Posted by Sage Harpuia (Post 5836180)
Looking carefully at them I guess:
-for reshiram: psychic, psychic-dragon, psychic-flying, psychic-steel
-for zekrom: dark, dark-dragon, dark-flying, dark-steel :)

I like those combos. Dark/dragon and dark/steel would work best for Zekrom and Psychic/Dragon and maybe Psychic/Steel for Reshiram.

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Originally Posted by lynds (Post 5836076)
Cool. I agree with you the black one also reminds me of Palkia..


Yeah with it's posture, but other than that I really don't see a resemblance. If you just looked at Reshima from its head and disregarded everything else it looks like a wolf IMO.

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Originally Posted by Lanturnista (Post 5836121)
The black one... ugh. Just ugh. Sorry, but it looks ugly to me.

The white one, however, is AWESOME. <3 I may have a new favorite Legendary pretty soon.

Though I don't agree with you I went back up to look at them and thought...hmm, the white one seems to be the 'good-er' of the two while Zekrom appears to be some type of demon that could rival Arceus.

shengar May 28th, 2010 10:08 AM

More type means more difficulty to balance them. Even with some current type is too weak and some is too strong. I think change some Pokemon type instead of creating a new type is way better.

Zebeedoo May 28th, 2010 10:10 AM

I love Reshiram! It's so elegant and purty. <3

shengar May 28th, 2010 10:11 AM

Their design is more a digimon than a pokemon. Its look cool, but somehow it also lose the charm that usually a pokemon have.
I'm kind of disappointed, since i'm expecting a bug type legendary

Late May 28th, 2010 10:21 AM

Better first look than with the starters (but I like them too).
Dunno yet which one I'm getting.

PiPVoda May 28th, 2010 10:21 AM

I just went to PokeBeach..and it appears what I said above 'about Zekrom being in pkmn black' isn't true! Reshiram is in black and Zekrom is in white...dumb me :/


Quote:

Contrary to their color schemes, Reshiram is Pokemon Black's mascot while Zekrom is White's. The Japanese site also revealed that the games will be released in September whereas the English website stated we will see their release in Spring 2011 for America. Those are some awesome-lookin' legendaries - they kind of look like angels.


http://pokebeach.com/

Oh well, Reshiram is still cool (starting to look better than Zekrom to me :D) and I'm still getting black version.

Edit: Does anyone wonder why they chose Reshiram for black and Zekrom for white? Maybe it has something to do with the story?

Madam Cheezy May 28th, 2010 10:24 AM

I agree completely ('ecpt for the bug legendary) with shengar.

Imo, they're too digimon-esque, and seem to be lacking the charm and originality of previous games. It almost seems like they're catering only to the male audience too...I know females are a small percent of who plays, but still. And, as per usual, one will probably be psychic.....'cause, of course, we cant get away from that for too long. :\

I hope the game itself makes up for these two, and for the grass starter....>.<

PiPVoda May 28th, 2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madam Cheezy (Post 5836337)
I agree completely ('ecpt for the bug legendary) with shengar.

Imo, they're too digimon-esque, and seem to be lacking the charm and originality of previous games. It almost seems like they're catering only to the male audience too...I know females are a small percent of who plays, but still. And, as per usual, one will probably be psychic.....'cause, of course, we cant get away from that for too long. :\

I hope the game itself makes up for these two, and for the grass starter....>.<

Ahhh they'll grow on you. I find a lot of people have a lot of criticism for them--while still loving them of course--but after awhile that all goes away. Like when I first saw Palkia and Dialga I thought they were.....weird. Still loved them though and stared at 'em almost every day until the games came out in the US if I remembered to :D.

shot571 May 28th, 2010 10:32 AM

Ive gotten hope now that the starters may be better now. Looking at these guys apart from the white ones hands are pretty much flawless imo. I really like these two. the black one is on par with mewtwo in terms of my favourite. Maybe theyve but the black one in white to show harmony or someething? :s

Liraxus May 28th, 2010 10:32 AM

Hmm...

The White one looks like a fusion of Lugia,Ninetails,Palkia, and Slowbro when ya look at it, anyone agree?

GoldvsRed May 28th, 2010 10:33 AM

Okay, now I'm not so sure which version I'm getting! I planned on getting White, but Zekrom looks awesome... Because it looks like a ROBOT. Reshiram has a really angelic appearance, which goes great with the helix-shaped tail. Maybe I'll just save up enough money to get both... Or maybe Game Freak will finally let you catch both Legendaries in the same game, ala Gold and Silver. Good luck with that...

Myles May 28th, 2010 10:34 AM

They could be Light/Flying and dark/Flying. Or if that bothers you/otherwise they might be Normal/Flying and dark/Flying.

And I think the only reason they look 'like digimon' is because they are unfamilar. I mean the Gen IV legendaries really looked like digimon originally.

RyanGT May 28th, 2010 10:34 AM

Zekrom looks like an absolute beast! I'll be getting the Black version for sure.

Thanks for posting these.

DXrobots May 28th, 2010 10:35 AM

they look like Lugia and palkia I'll be getting the Dark one I guess

Myles May 28th, 2010 10:37 AM

Guys:

Zekrom = White Version
Reshiram = Black Version

Maybe you could mention that in the first post Azure, to avoid the confusion.

WindBlows May 28th, 2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mewtwo. (Post 5836353)
Zekrom looks like an absolute beast! I'll be getting the Black version for sure.

Thanks for posting these.

Ehem, Zekrom will be White Version.

Xephyr May 28th, 2010 10:38 AM

I SERIOUSLY hope the white one isn't just another psychic type legend. The psychic type is getting old on legendary Pokemon <_<

shengar May 28th, 2010 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiPVoda (Post 5836339)
Ahhh they'll grow on you. I find a lot of people have a lot of criticism for them--while still loving them of course--but after awhile that all goes away. Like when I first saw Palkia and Dialga I thought they were.....weird. Still loved them though and stared at 'em almost every day until the games came out in the US if I remembered to :D.

Maybe they'll grow on me somehow(like the Dragon Trio and Arceus. thanks to Pokemon Adventure manga to grow it on me), but that doesn't mean Pokemon have to lose their unique charm. What must i do if Pokemon in latter generation somehow become indistinguishable to Digimon? just like I said its cool for the eyes but not enough charm

Rich Boy Rob May 28th, 2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PiPVoda (Post 5836335)
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Oh well, Reshiram is still cool (starting to look better than Zekrom to me :D) and I'm still getting black version.

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I have to admit, Reshiram is definitely growing on me aswell :D. Though I'll probably still get White as I had originally intended. Oh well I still have plenty of time to change my mind.

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Originally Posted by PiPVoda (Post 5836335)
[COLOR=royalblue]Edit: Does anyone wonder why they chose Reshiram for black and Zekrom for white? Maybe it has something to do with the story?
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It's could just to make them contrast the background more, as a white Pokémon on a white box wouldn't be the greatest art choice.

Also to those that are saying they look a little too much like Digimon, is that really such a bad thing?

billi1000 May 28th, 2010 10:40 AM

WOWWW!!! i would kill for a dragon/dark type right now :D, anyways the looks of this brings back a very recurring topic in mind that is "is there going to be a light type?" which is haunting me everytime i look at reshiram, so its zekrom 4 now, and btw many are confusing which mascott is in which game, zekrom is in white and reshiram is in black (right?:P)

Eruption May 28th, 2010 10:41 AM

I was going to buy the one with the better legendary.

Don't have a clue what to do now.

PiPVoda May 28th, 2010 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shot571 (Post 5836344)
Ive gotten hope now that the starters may be better now. Looking at these guys apart from the white ones hands are pretty much flawless imo. I really like these two. the black one is on par with mewtwo in terms of my favourite. Maybe theyve but the black one in white to show harmony or someething? :s

I think it has something to do with yin & yang. If so then black and white's storyline will definitely be the most interesting we've had since the beginning of pokemon.

Madam Cheezy May 28th, 2010 10:43 AM

The gen 4 legendaries still havent grown on me yet. I'm waiting for the right trade to get rid of them.

The white one might actually be sort of buggy now that I look at it......it's butt looks like an ant's rear end.

Edit: I meant the one on the white box, not the white pokemon itself. -.-

PiPVoda May 28th, 2010 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilite Darkrai (Post 5836359)
Ehem, Zekrom will be White Version.

Because of this do you thikn people will move in favor of white version now? Like it seemed like black was gonna be the top dog this gen, but with Zekrom on white that might change.
What do you guys think of the box art? I love the simplicity of them:
http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/#/product

Quote:

Originally Posted by shengar (Post 5836361)
Maybe they'll grow on me somehow(like the Dragon Trio and Arceus. thanks to Pokemon Adventure manga to grow it on me), but that doesn't mean Pokemon have to lose their unique charm. What must i do if Pokemon in latter generation somehow become indistinguishable to Digimon? just like I said its cool for the eyes but not enough charm

Hmm, well you have a point and yes they somewhat resemble digimon (Zekrom more than Reshiram to an extent) but I'm sure once the games come out and we know their moves, the stories behind them, and their stats their 'resemblance' to digimon will start to fade in most of our minds. They appear to be sort of Angelic pokemon which may be a reason to why they resemble Digimon (or have influences from Angemon?) Pokemon losing its charm imo seems to be an opinion that varies from person to person.

shot571 May 28th, 2010 10:50 AM

i preffered ones with more art. like Hg. I hope they improve it.

Madam Cheezy May 28th, 2010 10:55 AM

Maybe it's like Romulus and Remus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romulus_and_Remus

shengar May 28th, 2010 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PiPVoda (Post 5836375)
Hmm, well you have a point and yes they somewhat resemble digimon (Zekrom more than Reshiram to an extent) but I'm sure once the games come out and we know their moves, the stories behind them, and their stats their 'resemblance' to digimon will start to fade in most of our minds. They appear to be sort of Angelic pokemon which may be a reason to why they resemble Digimon (or have influences from Angemon?) Pokemon losing its charm imo seems to be an opinion that varies from person to person.

Maybe that because i'm heavily influenced by both Generation I, II. It just recently that Pokemon got more and more man shaped Pokemon and material/thing based Pokemon(which many digimon does). I'm in that hope Ken Sugimori got his touch back from generation I, II, III.

abood321 May 28th, 2010 11:14 AM

I think the black one is dragon/dark type and the white one psychic/flying.
They both look cool, but I will choose the white version.

solaris knight May 28th, 2010 11:25 AM

YES! The Legendaries are both Epic in design! I am definitely getting the version with Zekrom in it. It seems they're based around Light and Darkness.

Zekrom's could be Dark/Dragon or Dark/Steel or Fighting/Dragon.
As for Reshiram...Most likely part flying due to its feathers, maybe Psychic, though we already have a Psychic/Flying Legend as a version mascot, so maybe not...Other possibilites for either of its types are Normal or Ice. Not much else could fit...
Ghost has a small possibility for either, though.

Edit: Took a while, but it finally hit me that they could be based around Angels and Demons.

Dr. Faustus May 28th, 2010 11:27 AM

Ugh, seriously? Sure, they look cool, but they're probably going to be Dragon type. More Draconic Legendaries? No thanks. My Weavile doesn't need more work/

SpawnHyuuga May 28th, 2010 11:29 AM

Well assuming Zekrom is the black one, and that the black one will be in Pokemon Black. and also considering that Black is my favorite color....I think it's obvious which game I will be getting...Pokemon White! jkjk - no seriously, Pokemon Black ftw! XD

Shvibzik May 28th, 2010 11:30 AM

Wooow the white one looks uber awesome, it's just amazing...It should be an ice type, because Ice is epic n.n

webemperor May 28th, 2010 11:32 AM

They are Awesome.I'm sure I will buy them both XD

PokemonLeagueChamp May 28th, 2010 11:33 AM

Has this been confirmed? Cause they look sorta fake, especially the Black Palkia-looking one.

EDIT: NVM this is on Serebii. It's real, alright.

PiPVoda May 28th, 2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by abood321 (Post 5836426)
I think the black one is dragon/dark type and the white one psychic/flying.
They both look cool, but I will choose the white version.


The dark should be dark/steel (dark/dragon okay..but not as good). If Zekrom is Dark/steel then I predict it will have higher atk/def Reshiram will more than likely have a higher speed/sp.atk/sp.def if psychic/flying. Basically just like in D&P one will have higher atk/def than the other and the other higher sp.atk/sp.def.

Sidenote: Reshiram being psychic/flying would be ideal but for some reason I see psychic/dragon or if lucky a pure flying type or psychic/steel more appealing.

Mongo May 28th, 2010 11:35 AM

The white one isn't horrible, but the black one is ugly. Don't care for either of them.

560cool. May 28th, 2010 11:35 AM

These are weird and complicated ...
But, I still like 'em ! :)
These are two Pokemon of a design we've never seen before ! I'm most definetly looking forward to the next updates !
Also, it's quite odd : www.pokemon.com , the american site, already announced the games ... lol, isn't it a little bit too early ?

PiPVoda May 28th, 2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SpawnHyuuga (Post 5836464)
Well assuming Zekrom is the black one, and that the black one will be in Pokemon Black. and also considering that Black is my favorite color....I think it's obvious which game I will be getting...Pokemon White! jkjk - no seriously, Pokemon Black ftw! XD

Zekrom will be the mascot for pokemon white and Reshiram pokemon black. http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/#/product

I think you meant you're getting white now huh? D:

LethalTexture May 28th, 2010 11:37 AM

Look too similar to palkia to me. I refreshed Serebii earlier and thought that as soon as I saw them.

Still, I guess they'll grow on me. Having said that, I loved the Gen IV box art legendaries straight away. =/

umbreon_4_life May 28th, 2010 11:37 AM

I'm getting Black Version for sure! I really love the white Pokemon, but I'm not so crazy about the black one... XD Spring 2011...


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