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I'm disappointed in the legends to be honest. There's too many dragons already. It seems like the legends are just getting recycled. I hoping the other gen 5 pokes are better.
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Uhhh, no. The body physique is quite different. They're both big, both dark, and both in two legs but other than that... Zekrom isn't wearing armor, and he's only one color, not 3. He has one horn, not three. His eyes are more complex. No hair. He's actually pretty organic looking, except for the tail, in my opiniom. |
@ .Gamer, well ur right there is a resemblance between these legendaries and digimon and even some YuGiOh! characters as well, but lets not over kill these legendaries, to be honest they resemble previous pokemon (mostly palkia) much more than they do to non-pokemon characters. If we have to imply this to every pokemon sprite, you would find many resemblances (like pikachu and patamon, like come on, these 2 look almost identical) so i guess lets just wait for more footage and images, its going to take more than a 1 single image of a pokemon to impress anybody.
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Wow, I would easily get both the games.
Best looking legendaries so far out of all the generations. |
Something i just thought of... These legendarys make me 101% sure that theyr will be something about planes, you might even have to get the Legendarys somewhere in the sky...? I mean look at them Reshiram has wings that look like plane winngs (the akward position atleast) and Zekrom has a turbine for a tail. Go ahead and say "no way, Sherlok!" if you like, but this is something pretty huge, for me atleast!
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Honestly, if Zekrom and Reshima are fugly...then how do you describe this guy? :laugh: The body structure is completey different and neither of them have those big ugly dino feet either. yes they may resemble digimon in a way..or at least look like they should be digimon, but if anything they (say Zekrom) bare no resemblance to this. If anything they seem to resemble a few other pokemon rather than Digimon. |
More dragon legendaries? I am underwhelmed by this news. They don't look particularly dragon-like to me.
I have the tiniest sliver of hope that this is misinformation or a mistranslation. I like them slightly less now. Ah, well, there's more to the games than the legendaries. |
I expected them to be dragon, they might be Dragon/psychic(or light if it's made) and Dragon/dark!... the legendaries seem to be one sided again...like Kyogre beats Groudon,Palkia can't beat Dialga...type wise only.
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and Palkia can so beat Dialga (well at least my 3) :D. |
I actually like these two, which is surprising to me since I wasn't to impressed with the starters. I like their designs. Some say that they look too much like Digimon, but I disagree. Overall I like these two.
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Yeah... the argument that Pokemon are starting to look like Digimon is fairly weak, since (no offence to the Digimon's fandom) Digimon came after Pokemon and pretty much used the same premise. I think what Pokemon is doing is simply trying to move away from the idea that they are kiddie games and appeal to a wider audience, particularly those who never gave Pokemon a chance. |
I am so going for Zekrom :D
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I personally love the legendaries! I'm probably getting Black, which is good, since I quite like Reshiram's design--a bit more than Zekrom's. They have this kinda epic feel I can't explain. This made me even more excited!
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I was expecting something more.
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They both look pretty epic. I was gonna wait for the mascots, but since they both look pretty epic, I think I'm gonna have to wait for version exclusives. (:
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I really like both of the new legendaries. :) I'm still not too sure as to which one I like more.
I just wish they weren't part dragon type. But then again, it's not like I'm going to use them once I've caught them, so it's all good. |
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Hmm, true I agree..and honestly if the legendaries are this awesome, and if they're really trying to appeal to an older audience at the same time too then I expect the other gen 5 pokemon to be awesome. |
I find Reshiram interesting, but Zekrom seems to be a bit of over kill. All I see is a bunch of dismembered parts of other Pokemon thrown together and painted black. At this point Black Version is looking a little more appealing. Although it still is a bit to early for that.
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Pretty much was I was expecting.
A demonic and angel like legendary duo. I don't like the white one. But it will grow on me like Palkia and Dialga. |
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Can't wait until I get White so I can have my cool Mecha like dragon demon like Mascot...too bad I don't get it until after I'm almost done with the game... |
This is awesome.This is how i see it.
There are no new types, because they would have been announced before the starters were revealed. The White one= Dragon/Ice FTW!!!!!! The Black one=Dragon/Dark/Giratina's maker FTW!!!! In any case, they both say EPIC for me.I will get my translator ready so I can input it into the Japanese game for everyone to enjoy. |
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Hey cool, they look awesome. Looks like I will be getting Zekrom, I said I would be getting White from the very Beginning, so there you have it, I will admit though, they share a resemblance to Digimon, but hey, Who cares, they are still Pokemon.
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They have some body shape similiarities but they're quite obviously different pokemon. I have to say I'm very pleased with these Legends the only thing I don't like about them is their names but whatever, I'll get used to them. Also I see Dragon/Steel or Dragon/Dark for Zekrom and; Dragon/Normal, Dragon/Flying or Dragon/Steel for Reshiram. Just please game freak, no Psychic legends!! |
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Even then, its still not enough dragon.I think there are more bug types than anything. |
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Gen 2 had Kingdra Gen 3 had the Salamence family, the Flygon family (minus Trapinch) and Altaria Gen 4 had the Garchomp family For Legends Gen 1 had none Gen 2 had none Gen 3 had Rayquaza, Latios and Latias Gen 4 had Dialga, Palkia and Giratina I love Dragon pokemon so I won't complain about them but there have been alot of dragon legends in the past 2 generations. (Not that I disagree with that) As for non legendaries, I think 4 Dragons a generation would suffice, generation 3 had a little much. I only say this because Dragon's are supposed to be the epitemy of Power, if they were walking around everywhere they wouldn't exactly be rare or regarded with the wonder that they are. Which is exactly why Dragon makes a good Legendary Pokemon type!! |
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The black one has a massive jet engine as it's tail, it could possibly be steel type?
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Wonder what the third one will look like and if they will give it a new forme come the third version like they did with gira... or was that a time third version thing... guess we will have to wait until Pokemon Grey version until then... |
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I. NEED. RESHIRAM.
It's beautiful. I'll probably wait until Grey or whatever comes out so I can get both though. I'm so excited nowwww. |
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IMO, Dragon is a good type for Legendaries. However, they shouldn't just stick with that. We have 16 other types, and they haven't even used some of them. I could think up a good Bug right now, more than likely. I'm leaning towards giant beetle.
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Normal/flying Bug Fighting (maybe...we don't have one yet but it'd be sweet if we did) |
Oh man, both look awesome. But I'm gonna choose Zekrom as the better looking one ;D
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These mascots are the best looking mascots since Groudon and Kyogre! Zekrom has markings or lines in it's neck and part of it's face that make it look mecha like plus, I like these marking actually and it's mecha look and I also like Reshiram's natural look... the only part not natural about it is it's tail... I bet their Signature moves will have to do with their tails Reshiram will most likely send a beam of light out from it's tail and Zekrom's signature move will be a drill like move involving it's "wind turbine".
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i might get both as they're both awesome. i still think its weird that the black pokemon is in white and vice versa. i guess it looks nicer on the box.
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They're both so awesome! I love them, I love them, I love them! I can't wait. I don't know which I like better. D:
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Alright, a few things I have noticed.
1. Stop constantly hoping for a new type. We aren't getting one, the game is balanced, deal with it. 2. "Reshiram looks pure flying" or "Zekrom looks Dark/Steel." Fools, both are Dragon-typed. It hasn't been revealed if they are pure or part, but, from what I've observed with previous games, they're most likely going to be pure Dragon with Reshiram having a more Psychic-based movepool and Zekrom having a more Dark-based movepool. Remember, the games are Black and White, not Sky and Earth, so stop hoping for Flying- and Steel-types. 3. Zekrom does look like a monochrome Palkia as someone has stated before, but you have to keep this in mind: a lot of Pokemon look alike. Pikachu, Pachirisu, Plusle, and Minun all look alike. There are thousands upon thousands of pre-drawn Pokemon. One of them is bound to look like another. 4. Zekrom is the legend for White Version, Reshiram is the legend for Black Version. I'm getting both. 5. Zekrom is cooler. :D |
I won't be able to relax until I find out Reshiram's typing... It really does not suit anything but to be honest, Latias and Latios don't either.
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Wait, Zekrom's in the White version? Great, now I can quit forcing myself to like Reshiram more! I actually don't really like Reshiram all that much... I just like bright colors! Still, Game Freak's really playing up this whole Yin Yang thing, to the point that the white Legendary's in the Black version, and the black Legendary's in the White version. It's... Confusing, to say the least. I nice, healthy dose of contrast, but it's still a lot harder to tell which version has which than, say, Diamond and Pearl!
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Diamond and Pearl had nothing to do with Palkia being part water or Dialga being part steel. Honestly, if you were asked back in '06 when they first revealed Dialga and Palkia if you thought they'd be steel/dragon and water/dragon based on their names would you have said yes? Get my drift? The names have nothing to do with what types the legendaries on their boxes will be. :cer_no: 3. I agree w/ you on that one. Quote:
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If a light-type is to be added, then Nintendo will assure it isn't overpowerful and has its weaknesses to others. Reshiram would make a perfect "Light-Type" and keep in mind nintendo can add more types as long as equilibrium is maintained among all Pokemon and this so-called "Balance" doesn't soley depend on type. |
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Lugia uses a Physical Move and presents DEATH to Ho-oh! :D Just kidding. In all HONESTY though, Lugia can take WHATEVER Ho-oh or a VARIETY of other pokemon can dish at it... Ho-oh can't really say the same... Lugia can also be used to beat up MOST legendaries by Type Coverage as most are Dragon Type... Ho-oh can't really say the same, although it works EXCELLENT with Groudon and Sacred Fire is a five letter word that starts with "b"! :D Also, if there IS a Light Type coming out... I predict it will be Super Effective against Ghost and Dark Types (as light illuminates darkness and ghosts only appear in dark places)... Not Very Effective against Grass Types (as plants absorb light for photosynthesis)... Have a complete immunity to or resistant to Dark and/or Ghost as well as resistances to Fire and Electric Types (as both of these create light). And who else believes that these guys are gonna represent Heaven and Hell? |
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I have a feeling Reshii is going to be Fire/Dragon. :O |
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Else, I agree with Haza, if there were a Light Type, main weaknesses could be Poison and Dark ! Maybe not Ghost, but I dunno xD But yeah, I hope the pokedex won't deceive us >_o Also, I wonder if they are gonna keep the Japanese names, or switch again to Englishized Names o: |
I think linkster7 was being sarcastic. >_>
The Jap names are awesome! XD |
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As for the hypocrisy thing, I didn't mean for it to come off like that. Also, whoever said that the game doesn't need the Dark typing is dead wrong. The game NEEDS the Dark type. Ghost couldn't have taken it out because, back then, Ghost attacks did normal damage to Psychic types (or so I remember...) Either way, the Dark- and Steel-types were needed in order to balance the game. |
Oh, so my Light and Day concept was right :P Let's see if my storyline will be similar *pokes siggy*
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I still fail to see how anyone could possibly think that Psychic naturally opposes the Dark type is an idiot. If anything, Psychic is somewhere in between Light and Dark, especially after seeing the way Sabrina was portrayed once... and Reshiram does not look the least bit Psychic.
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New type isn't really gonna happen to me. What's it gonna be though? The current type now is seems fine to me.
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It could be of life and death, much more likely than them representing heaven and hell imo.
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Doesn't really matter as both games are AMAZING and I wish The Pokemon Company would push them another year, much like they did with the originals but alas. And all it takes is a Rock-Type MOVE... Not just a Pokemon. Or an Earthquake, if the player is DUMB enough to use Roost over Recover on Ho-oh. Quote:
Also, the game characters are OLDER! It only makes sense that this game is meant to have a more mature audience! Not that this will stop 10 year olds and the like from playing these games as well it should not but people hear about religion ALL the time, no matter how it may get censored by the media. The more I think about it, Heaven and Hell make PERFECT Sense! It's really the only SENSIBLE way I can see it going. I could be wrong, but that's how I'm calling it right now. |
Dude, you should calm down. The reason why Heaven and Hell are too extreme is obvious, drop it.
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look at the butcher job they did to yugioh 5Ds, one piece (til they lost rights to it) 4Kids still has slight dominion over pokemon, so you know if its life& death, theyll piss& moan til is becomes life & "they went off on a journey" or some lame BS like that |
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Probably also why the main characters in these games are ALSO older than previous ones. We've already had that revealed a while ago. Also, if it does turn out the way I say, you know for sure it will be watered down over here and else where... For example, calling Dialga and Palkia "dieties" instead of "gods"... Or simply just calling them "guardians" will suffice in most cases. Quote:
We can't show guns anymore? Why? Children used to watch westerns all the time back in the day! Try making a western without firearms and see how it works. 4Kids is B>A>D-Bad, and they may be the devil (along with Leo Burnet of course) but the censorship spawns from something much, MUCH, worse. Also, you forgot "the next dimension". lol :D On another note... WHAT?! POKEMON HAS LASTED 14 YEARS?! WOW!!! Awesome! Be thankful we're even getting these things at all. Even the programmers thought it would die out after GSC! ;) |
You don't bring the concept of Heaven and Hell into a children's series is all I'm saying, and Pokemon is already known for having negative feedback from the churches anyway. There is no way in HELL that they'd purposefully bring that upon themselves... and they (Reshiram and Zekrom) don't even really look like that is what they represent...
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And there are PLENTY of different variations of heaven and hell OUTSIDE of Christianity you know. The games are Japanese. We are all pretty much sure that these dragons are gonna be classified as dieties (gods). It's not like Reshiram is God and Zekrom is The Devil. Although, really, Digimon got away with having Angels and Devils and Digimon Adventure (AKA Season 1) was considered a KIDS SHOW. It's already been stated by MANY a person that these Pokemon bear a STRIKING resemblance to Digimon's character artstyle. |
4Kids no longer has any affliation with Pokemon, so why even grin them up? Besides they didn't have any power over GameFreak/Nintendo/etc.
Were dialga and Palkia called deities? Either way deity means god anyway. Oh and digimon was always more 'mature' in that way. And the later series started to get pretty dark too. |
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And while it DOES mean the same thing, to me, it kinda downgrades their status a bit... However, at least they actually call them dieties instead of "beasts"... I'm looking at YOU 4KIDS! (Watch 2000) The main characters is Digimon were ALSO older than Pokemon as well. Also, I hate that I'm gonna hafta wait until at least AUGUST to hear what their Legendary Battle Music sounds like. :( |
The black one is deadly cool.
Teh white one is not much appealing, though, IMO. |
After what Pokebeach posted earlier this morning, I'm quite convinced that there just might be a Light type... the name Reshiram has a direct connection to Light, but relating to the time of day, and Zekron with darkness and night. That, and the fact that they'd reveal the legendary Pokemon without giving us their types...
Also, I feel like these legendary Pokemon are the epitome of Darkness and Light... and Zekron's special move will be called Black Hole, and Reshiram will have White Out |
lolz, that would be interesting attacks.
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It could also just be that it's a White Dragon with Blue-Eyes... :D It is also VERY elegant. I can definitely say that, as far as design goes, while Zekrom DOES look VERY badass... Reshiram's tail looks WAY better... And Doggy-face kinda grows on me as well! X3 |
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Yesyes! Elegant! :D |
My thoughts "oh christ, I'm not buying them. I hope they're on normal DSi etc. though, coz I want an R/S remake".
Seriously, more dragons??? And I can just tell the whole story will be based on them! I prefer how G/S/C/Hg/Ss did it. Not much backstory, but you still meet them. Or even better.....the R/G/B/Y/Fr/Lg way: you don't even have to realise they exist! |
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Sorry, couldn't resist. Honestly... There's something about these new pokemon... The more I look at them, the more I like them. And while at first glance, Zekrom seems like the more badass of the two of 'em... And then I take a closer look at Reshiram... Look at Reshiram's face! It's gaze! SCARY! It has that look of: "You call me 'girly' and you are SO gonna die!" I think that Reshiram will end up surprising A LOT of people out there. |
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Haha, it is funny how we all start saying the same things... I too fell for Zekrom initially but now I am really starting to appreciate Reshiram... it's beautiful and it will be the most unique Dragon Type yet... being non-reptilian like Altaria.
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&&. Yeah it'll be silly if it's an DSi-only game. |
I, too, am warming up to Reshiram more now.
And I'd say there's a different code for DSi-exclusive. |
The one I like about Reshiram is because its unique and I like its Blue Eyes. Zekrom, Its cool with the Black color like a machine especially its Arms and the Foots like Palkia!
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Judging by what was posted on Pokébeach I think I'm getting what will be the storyline of these games; I think Team Generic will try to summon either Zekrom or Reshiram (depending on version) and in White will try to create eternal night and in Black create eternal day. Similar Ruby & Sapphire did with land and sea. Alternatively it could be to do with eclipses.
As long as the legendaries have a decent backstory I'm happy. Even if it isn't explicitly noted in the main story. |
Some of the most original deisgns I've seen for a pokemon. in fact, they almost look like Digimon to be quite frank. But they're really really awesome, I'm happy with the outcome. My only issue is the "White" legendary actually looks quite demonic rather than a pure hearted being.
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Well Reshiram is for Pokemon Black.
Zekrom is for Pokemon White. Reshiram could be the Pokemon of the day. Were as Zekrom could be the pokemon of the night. Both pokemon hold the key to Day/Night. Put them together, you can rule the planets weather, and life source.? I Don't know. :D Yeah, there is some extra content, and speacil stuff for people whoi have the DSi. There could be more to do with the pokemon games. |
Could Zekrom be a man-made Pokemon? Its covered entirely with armour plates and has a jet engine as a tail, and seems pretty bionic and robotic, so it is plausible.
As well, these legends may represent heaven/hell, day/night, angel/demon, good/evil, how knows... but as long as there's a good storyline supporting the theme, the outcome should be epic. |
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For the first time, I'm gonna buy both games from one generation. All thanks to these beautifully designed legendaries.
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