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crimsonstorm May 29th, 2010 10:16 AM

I'm disappointed in the legends to be honest. There's too many dragons already. It seems like the legends are just getting recycled. I hoping the other gen 5 pokes are better.

Bloothump May 29th, 2010 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by .Gamer (Post 5839292)


Also, am I the only one who feels like these pokemon don't even FEEL like pokemon anymore? They look fugly to me.


http://download.lavadomefive.com/members/BigClawz/Digimon-BlackWarGreymon.jpg

Also, a STRIKING resemblance to digimon. These new legendaries make me a sad panda.


Uhhh, no. The body physique is quite different. They're both big, both dark, and both in two legs but other than that... Zekrom isn't wearing armor, and he's only one color, not 3. He has one horn, not three. His eyes are more complex. No hair. He's actually pretty organic looking, except for the tail, in my opiniom.

billi1000 May 29th, 2010 10:27 AM

@ .Gamer, well ur right there is a resemblance between these legendaries and digimon and even some YuGiOh! characters as well, but lets not over kill these legendaries, to be honest they resemble previous pokemon (mostly palkia) much more than they do to non-pokemon characters. If we have to imply this to every pokemon sprite, you would find many resemblances (like pikachu and patamon, like come on, these 2 look almost identical) so i guess lets just wait for more footage and images, its going to take more than a 1 single image of a pokemon to impress anybody.

Myles May 29th, 2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by .Gamer (Post 5839292)
http://download.lavadomefive.com/members/BigClawz/Digimon-BlackWarGreymon.jpg


Also, a STRIKING resemblance to digimon. These new legendaries make me a sad panda.

On a scale of Pokemon 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 digimon, they rank 2-4. And the particular digimon you chose to post just showed that even more. It's way more detailed and... bionic than them.

Serin May 29th, 2010 10:49 AM

Wow, I would easily get both the games.

Best looking legendaries so far out of all the generations.

Sora's Nobody May 29th, 2010 10:58 AM

Something i just thought of... These legendarys make me 101% sure that theyr will be something about planes, you might even have to get the Legendarys somewhere in the sky...? I mean look at them Reshiram has wings that look like plane winngs (the akward position atleast) and Zekrom has a turbine for a tail. Go ahead and say "no way, Sherlok!" if you like, but this is something pretty huge, for me atleast!

PiPVoda May 29th, 2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 5839369)
Something i just thought of... These legendarys make me 101% sure that theyr will be something about planes, you might even have to get the Legendarys somewhere in the sky...? I mean look at them Reshiram has wings that look like plane winngs (the akward position atleast) and Zekrom has a turbine for a tail. Go ahead and say "no way, Sherlok!" if you like, but this is something pretty huge, for me atleast!

You know what that is what ran by my mind awhile back too. Maybe it was made like that by coincidence or it has something to do with the story I suppose. I wonder if they will be able to fly though..Reshiram looks like it possibly could...Zekrom..not so much.

Spoiler:

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Gamer (Post 5839292)

Clearly you haven't looked at Palkia long enough....


Also, am I the only one who feels like these pokemon don't even FEEL like pokemon anymore? They look fugly to me.


http://download.lavadomefive.com/members/BigClawz/Digimon-BlackWarGreymon.jpg

Also, a STRIKING resemblance to digimon. These new legendaries make me a sad panda.



Honestly, if Zekrom and Reshima are fugly...then how do you describe this guy? :laugh:

The body structure is completey different and neither of them have those big ugly dino feet either. yes they may resemble digimon in a way..or at least look like they should be digimon, but if anything they (say Zekrom) bare no resemblance to this. If anything they seem to resemble a few other pokemon rather than Digimon.

Esper May 29th, 2010 11:06 AM

More dragon legendaries? I am underwhelmed by this news. They don't look particularly dragon-like to me.

I have the tiniest sliver of hope that this is misinformation or a mistranslation. I like them slightly less now. Ah, well, there's more to the games than the legendaries.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 29th, 2010 11:14 AM

I expected them to be dragon, they might be Dragon/psychic(or light if it's made) and Dragon/dark!... the legendaries seem to be one sided again...like Kyogre beats Groudon,Palkia can't beat Dialga...type wise only.

PiPVoda May 29th, 2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5839394)
I expected them to be dragon, they might be Dragon/psychic(or light if it's made) and Dragon/dark!... the legendaries seem to be one sided again...like Kyogre beats Groudon,Palkia can't beat Dialga...type wise only.

I don't think they will be one-sided unless Reshiram is like psychic/dragon and Zekrom is dark/dragon. If Reshiram is say a new type light/dragon then light&dark could both be SE against one another.

and Palkia can so beat Dialga (well at least my 3) :D.

mikey May 29th, 2010 11:24 AM

I actually like these two, which is surprising to me since I wasn't to impressed with the starters. I like their designs. Some say that they look too much like Digimon, but I disagree. Overall I like these two.

Yamikarasu May 29th, 2010 11:40 AM

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/agumon.jpgvshttp://s.bebo.com/app-image/7925056065/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/03/21/charmander.jpg

Yeah... the argument that Pokemon are starting to look like Digimon is fairly weak, since (no offence to the Digimon's fandom) Digimon came after Pokemon and pretty much used the same premise. I think what Pokemon is doing is simply trying to move away from the idea that they are kiddie games and appeal to a wider audience, particularly those who never gave Pokemon a chance.

nielsnijhof May 29th, 2010 12:34 PM

I am so going for Zekrom :D

Rumi May 29th, 2010 12:45 PM

I personally love the legendaries! I'm probably getting Black, which is good, since I quite like Reshiram's design--a bit more than Zekrom's. They have this kinda epic feel I can't explain. This made me even more excited!

Dubstep May 29th, 2010 1:17 PM

I was expecting something more.

SparklingMistral May 29th, 2010 1:22 PM

They both look pretty epic. I was gonna wait for the mascots, but since they both look pretty epic, I think I'm gonna have to wait for version exclusives. (:

Rain May 29th, 2010 1:35 PM

I really like both of the new legendaries. :) I'm still not too sure as to which one I like more.
I just wish they weren't part dragon type.
But then again, it's not like I'm going to use them once I've caught them, so it's all good.

PiPVoda May 29th, 2010 3:32 PM

Spoiler:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamikarasu (Post 5839444)
http://floatzel.net/pokemon/agumon.jpgvshttp://s.bebo.com/app-image/7925056065/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/03/21/charmander.jpg

Yeah... the argument that Pokemon are starting to look like Digimon is fairly weak, since (no offence to the Digimon's fandom) Digimon came after Pokemon and pretty much used the same premise. I think what Pokemon is doing is simply trying to move away from the idea that they are kiddie games and appeal to a wider audience, particularly those who never gave Pokemon a chance.



Hmm, true I agree..and honestly if the legendaries are this awesome, and if they're really trying to appeal to an older audience at the same time too then I expect the other gen 5 pokemon to be awesome.

Ayselipera May 29th, 2010 3:43 PM

I find Reshiram interesting, but Zekrom seems to be a bit of over kill. All I see is a bunch of dismembered parts of other Pokemon thrown together and painted black. At this point Black Version is looking a little more appealing. Although it still is a bit to early for that.

mew² May 29th, 2010 3:56 PM

Pretty much was I was expecting.
A demonic and angel like legendary duo.
I don't like the white one. But it will grow on me like Palkia and Dialga.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 29th, 2010 4:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PiPVoda (Post 5839406)
I don't think they will be one-sided unless Reshiram is like psychic/dragon and Zekrom is dark/dragon. If Reshiram is say a new type light/dragon then light&dark could both be SE against one another.

and Palkia can so beat Dialga (well at least my 3) :D.

..I mean't type advantage...wise... That's why I think we need a light type or we would see the one sidedness again like we did in gen 1,3,4...wait this is part of a tradition isn't it... only gen 2 broke this...
Can't wait until I get White so I can have my cool Mecha like dragon demon like Mascot...too bad I don't get it until after I'm almost done with the game...

Karel_Kazuki May 29th, 2010 4:06 PM

This is awesome.This is how i see it.

There are no new types, because they would have been announced before the starters were revealed.

The White one= Dragon/Ice FTW!!!!!!
The Black one=Dragon/Dark/Giratina's maker FTW!!!!

In any case, they both say EPIC for me.I will get my translator ready so I can input it into the Japanese game for everyone to enjoy.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 29th, 2010 4:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 5839880)
This is awesome.This is how i see it.

There are no new types, because they would have been announced before the starters were revealed.

The White one= Dragon/Ice FTW!!!!!!
The Black one=Dragon/Dark/Giratina's maker FTW!!!!

In any case, they both say EPIC for me.I will get my translator ready so I can input it into the Japanese game for everyone to enjoy.

...I don't think it's Dragon/Ice to me it's more Dragon/psychic, the other one is 75% going to be Dragon/dark... Your joking on Giratina's maker right as Giratina was created by Arceus... I can't tell if you joking or not...

JAK3 May 29th, 2010 4:15 PM

Hey cool, they look awesome. Looks like I will be getting Zekrom, I said I would be getting White from the very Beginning, so there you have it, I will admit though, they share a resemblance to Digimon, but hey, Who cares, they are still Pokemon.

Karel_Kazuki May 29th, 2010 4:15 PM

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Originally Posted by crimsonstorm (Post 5839293)
I'm disappointed in the legends to be honest. There's too many dragons already. It seems like the legends are just getting recycled. I hoping the other gen 5 pokes are better.

BIGGEST LOAD OF CRAP I HEARD!

Has anyone even noticed that in every generation, except 2(you would probably consider Tyranitar a dragon.) that there was only one set of Dragons?

Dragonite fam
Salamance fam
Garchomp fam
Flygon fam

Legendaries
Sinnoh 3
Rayquaza

Seriously?There arent ENOUGH dragons.

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5839890)

...I don't think it's Dragon/Ice to me it's more Dragon/psychic, the other one is 75% going to be Dragon/dark... Your joking on Giratina's maker right as Giratina was created by Arceus... I can't tell if you joking or not...

I agree about the Psychic too.And I didnt mean it like that i mean Giratina easily gets PWNED.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 29th, 2010 4:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JAK3 (Post 5839905)
Hey cool, they look awesome. Looks like I will be getting Zekrom, I said I would be getting White from the very Beginning, so there you have it, I will admit though, they share a resemblance to Digimon, but hey, Who cares, they are still Pokemon.

I agree with you, I was also going to get white from the beginning and still am...i hate it how people who said they were going to get Black have all of a sudden shift towards white after this reveal! Serebii said something about the games having more differences between them other than the traditional differences...wonder what they are...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 5839911)
BIGGEST LOAD OF CRAP I HEARD!

Has anyone even noticed that in every generation, except 2(you would probably consider Tyranitar a dragon.) that there was only one set of Dragons?

Dragonite fam
Salamance fam
Garchomp fam
Flygon fam

Legendaries
Sinnoh 3
Rayquaza

Seriously?There arent ENOUGH dragons.


I agree about the Psychic too.And I didnt mean it like that i mean Giratina easily gets PWNED.

Lol I thought you mean't that but wasn't sure... of course it would pawn Gira if it's Dragon/dark, plus it's design already pawns Gira...You forgot to put Latios and latias in you list...this is the second Yin-yang pair that is part dragon after the Latis!

Waffle-San May 29th, 2010 4:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rilence (Post 5838191)
Can I cancel Dragon out of Weakness?
Since Ice resists Dragons :D
It'll be much like Dialga whom can resist dragon cos' of it's steel too.

I wish, but Ice sadly only resists Ice. But I'd love if it did resist Dragon as well.

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Originally Posted by >Feelings< (Post 5838563)
No. Pure Dragon types only have a 2X weakness to Ice, just for the record.

This time, a lot of things might be different, as from what it sound like when they said there will be more differences.
It's also something to think about when the Pokemon of one colour is the version mascot for the opposite colour. Maybe it has something to do too?

Based purely on looks, I like both of them a lot, but I like Reshiram even more, with its awesome angelic elegance and holy-like feeling.
It has a slight resemblance to Sphinx, maybe?
Reshiram would be even more awesome to me if its hand and arm was separate from its wings.
Zekrom's tail isn't that good, but works.

I know my wish means nothing now, but I really wished they would not be dragon types, even if they did look like dragon types to me.
That's because there has been too many dragon type Legendary Pokemon lately.
I would rather have a Light/Flying type for Reshiram, and Dark/Steel or Dark/Flying type for Zekrom.
But given the latest news, I'm newly hoping for them to be Light/Dragon and Dark/Dragon type respectively, with the 'Levitate' ability.
And I don't care if the typing doesn't sound good or anything, because it feels like they should be of this type to me.

Dark/Dragon only has 3 2X weakness, but 6 2X resistances and one immunity. That's actually good.
Light/Dragon... Who know about that? Light may be weak to Dark and Dark may also be weak to Light.

I don't know whether to be happy or not about their name being the same in English.
I don't like the idea of another Dragon trio, since it's kind of obvious that a third one will pop out in a while.
Finally, the designs may look Digimon-like at first sight, but I like Reshiram a whole lot still for now, and I like Zekrom too.

It'd have 4 2X weaknesses, Dragon has a 2X Weakness to both Ice and Dragon.
And am I the only one who feels they don't have to have "opposite" typings to oppose eachother?

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Originally Posted by Yamikarasu (Post 5839027)
What? No. No offense, but that just doesn't seem likely at all. Although I'm sure they do look through a lot of fanart they are sent or that is posted on the internet for ideas.

I'm going to give Gamefreak a break for making these part Dragon type. Dragon has traditionally been the "most powerful" type (let's forget about Psychic, kthx) and I think it at least makes sense that they are part Dragon, just so long as they are also part Light and part Dark, respectively.



Penis? Look at Palkia. Now look at Palkia again, this time noticing its circular, almost balls-esque shoulder plates, and its long neck and rounded head. Yeah. I don't think the internet is going to mind much about this tuft of feathers.

I agree with you completely here, I mean here's a picture of Zekrom and Palkia. (They're big...)



They have some body shape similiarities but they're quite obviously different pokemon.


I have to say I'm very pleased with these Legends the only thing I don't like about them is their names but whatever, I'll get used to them. Also I see Dragon/Steel or Dragon/Dark for Zekrom and;
Dragon/Normal, Dragon/Flying or Dragon/Steel for Reshiram. Just please game freak, no Psychic legends!!

Karel_Kazuki May 29th, 2010 4:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5839918)
I agree with you, I was also going to get white from the beginning and still am...i hate it how people who said they were going to get Black have all of a sudden shift towards white after this reveal! Serebii said something about the games having more differences between them other than the traditional differences...wonder what they are...


Lol I thought you mean't that but wasn't sure... of course it would pawn Gira if it's Dragon/dark, plus it's design already pawns Gira...You forgot to put Latios and latias in you list...this is the second Yin-yang pair that is part dragon after the Latis!

I forgot about them.But then again, they reminded me too much of Lugia and by first glance you would say they're dragons but theyre just Birds.

Even then, its still not enough dragon.I think there are more bug types than anything.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 29th, 2010 4:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 5839933)
I forgot about them.But then again, they reminded me too much of Lugia and by first glance you would say they're dragons but theyre just Birds.

Even then, its still not enough dragon.I think there are more bug types than anything.

..the Latis are Dragon type... not flying... The white one will have the same type combo as the Latis actually Dragon/psychic...if light type isn't made... I like the names also, they sound cool much better than Dialga and Palkia,Lugia and Ho-oh!

Waffle-San May 29th, 2010 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 5839911)
BIGGEST LOAD OF CRAP I HEARD!

Has anyone even noticed that in every generation, except 2(you would probably consider Tyranitar a dragon.) that there was only one set of Dragons?

Dragonite fam
Salamance fam
Garchomp fam
Flygon fam

Legendaries
Sinnoh 3
Rayquaza

Seriously?There arent ENOUGH dragons.

Gen 1 had Dragonite family
Gen 2 had Kingdra
Gen 3 had the Salamence family, the Flygon family (minus Trapinch) and Altaria
Gen 4 had the Garchomp family

For Legends

Gen 1 had none
Gen 2 had none
Gen 3 had Rayquaza, Latios and Latias
Gen 4 had Dialga, Palkia and Giratina

I love Dragon pokemon so I won't complain about them but there have been alot of dragon legends in the past 2 generations. (Not that I disagree with that)

As for non legendaries, I think 4 Dragons a generation would suffice, generation 3 had a little much. I only say this because Dragon's are supposed to be the epitemy of Power, if they were walking around everywhere they wouldn't exactly be rare or regarded with the wonder that they are. Which is exactly why Dragon makes a good Legendary Pokemon type!!

Karel_Kazuki May 29th, 2010 4:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5839947)
..the Latis are Dragon type... not flying... The white one will have the same type combo as the Latis actually Dragon/psychic...if light type isn't made... I like the names also, they sound cool much better than Dialga and Palkia,Lugia and Ho-oh!

Yeah but Dialga and Palkia were only named so because of the name of the games and what it took to get them.I dont know about Lugia or Ho-oh though.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 29th, 2010 4:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 5839951)
Gen 1 had Dragonite family
Gen 2 had Kingdra
Gen 3 had the Salamence family, the Flygon family (minus Trapinch) and Altaria
Gen 4 had the Garchomp family

For Legends

Gen 1 had none
Gen 2 had none
Gen 3 had Rayquaza, Latios and Latias
Gen 4 had Dialga, Palkia and Giratina

I love Dragon pokemon so I won't complain about them but there have been alot of dragon legends in the past 2 generations. (Not that I disagree with that)

As for non legendaries, I think 4 Dragons a generation would suffice, generation 3 had a little much. I only say this because Dragon's are supposed to be the epitemy of Power, if they were walking around everywhere they wouldn't exactly be rare or regarded with the wonder that they are. Which is exactly why Dragon makes a good Legendary Pokemon type!!

yup they do make a good Legendary type all dragons with the exceptions of Flygon, Alteria, and Kingdra are Psuedo legendary or legendary!

Karel_Kazuki May 29th, 2010 4:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 5839951)
Gen 1 had Dragonite family
Gen 2 had Kingdra
Gen 3 had the Salamence family, the Flygon family (minus Trapinch) and Altaria
Gen 4 had the Garchomp family

For Legends

Gen 1 had none
Gen 2 had none
Gen 3 had Rayquaza, Latios and Latias
Gen 4 had Dialga, Palkia and Giratina

I love Dragon pokemon so I won't complain about them but there have been alot of dragon legends in the past 2 generations. (Not that I disagree with that)

As for non legendaries, I think 4 Dragons a generation would suffice, generation 3 had a little much. I only say this because Dragon's are supposed to be the epitemy of Power, if they were walking around everywhere they wouldn't exactly be rare or regarded with the wonder that they are. Which is exactly why Dragon makes a good Legendary Pokemon type!!

Yep I realized that by the end of Generation 3.Bugs are the shortest to evolve, easiest to find and I believe has the most weaknesses? While Dragons are the longest to evolve, harder to find, and has only two weaknesses(One for Palkia).But they have the strength to match the time it takes, while I , personally, get sick of bugs by level 15.

Waffle-San May 29th, 2010 4:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5839955)

yup they do make a good Legendary type all dragons with the exceptions of Flygon, Alteria, and Kingdra are Psuedo legendary or legendary!

And Altaria is the only Dragon whose not in OU/Uber.

/Circa May 29th, 2010 4:44 PM

The black one has a massive jet engine as it's tail, it could possibly be steel type?

shot571 May 29th, 2010 4:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5839879)
..I mean't type advantage...wise... That's why I think we need a light type or we would see the one sidedness again like we did in gen 1,3,4...wait this is part of a tradition isn't it... only gen 2 broke this...
Can't wait until I get White so I can have my cool Mecha like dragon demon like Mascot...too bad I don't get it until after I'm almost done with the game...

Gen 2 had it as well didnt it. Lugia>Ho-oh ? :s

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 29th, 2010 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 5839966)
And Altaria is the only Dragon whose not in OU/Uber.

so true...actually one of the reason I think Altaria needs a evo...
Wonder what the third one will look like and if they will give it a new forme come the third version like they did with gira... or was that a time third version thing... guess we will have to wait until Pokemon Grey version until then...

Mattysaurus May 29th, 2010 4:48 PM

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Originally Posted by /Circa (Post 5839976)
The black one has a massive jet engine as it's tail, it could possibly be steel type?

I though it had a more 'Slowbro' type thing. But, maybe?

SIN1488 May 29th, 2010 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattysaurus (Post 5839988)


I though it had a more 'Slowbro' type thing. But, maybe?

lol, I knew I couldn't be the only one to notice that.

dozo May 29th, 2010 5:53 PM

I. NEED. RESHIRAM.
It's beautiful. I'll probably wait until Grey or whatever comes out so I can get both though. I'm so excited nowwww.

GoldvsRed May 29th, 2010 6:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shot571 (Post 5839978)
Gen 2 had it as well didnt it. Lugia>Ho-oh ? :s

Lugia isn't a Water-Type... It's Psychic/Flying-Type. Of course, it might as well have been a Water-Type, and the recent TCG cards of it show it as such... And it even learns Hydro pump by Level-Up. So, yeah... As much as I love that awesome rainbow-fire-sunshine-golden-god-chicken, Lugia would kick its feathered ass in battle.

PiPVoda May 29th, 2010 7:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 5839951)
Gen 1 had Dragonite family
Gen 2 had Kingdra
Gen 3 had the Salamence family, the Flygon family (minus Trapinch) and Altaria
Gen 4 had the Garchomp family

For Legends

Gen 1 had none
Gen 2 had none
Gen 3 had Rayquaza, Latios and Latias
Gen 4 had Dialga, Palkia and Giratina

I love Dragon pokemon so I won't complain about them but there have been alot of dragon legends in the past 2 generations. (Not that I disagree with that)

As for non legendaries, I think 4 Dragons a generation would suffice, generation 3 had a little much. I only say this because Dragon's are supposed to be the epitemy of Power, if they were walking around everywhere they wouldn't exactly be rare or regarded with the wonder that they are. Which is exactly why Dragon makes a good Legendary Pokemon type!!

True true. 4 Dragons a gen not including legendaries? Hmmm, I think we should be given two dragon families and maybe a dragon that doesn't evolve? We haven't had that yet. Though I imagine it would be pretty strong considering it would have no evos.

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Originally Posted by GoldvsRed (Post 5840166)
Lugia isn't a Water-Type... It's Psychic/Flying-Type. Of course, it might as well have been a Water-Type, and the recent TCG cards of it show it as such... And it even learns Hydro pump by Level-Up. So, yeah... As much as I love that awesome rainbow-fire-sunshine-golden-god-chicken, Lugia would kick its feathered ass in battle.

Nuh-oh..just depends on how you raise yours :D.

Åzurε May 29th, 2010 7:06 PM

IMO, Dragon is a good type for Legendaries. However, they shouldn't just stick with that. We have 16 other types, and they haven't even used some of them. I could think up a good Bug right now, more than likely. I'm leaning towards giant beetle.

GoldvsRed May 29th, 2010 7:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PiPVoda (Post 5840218)
Nuh-oh..just depends on how you raise yours :D.

Yeah, Ho-Oh with Punishment is awesome against Psychic-Types.

PiPVoda May 29th, 2010 7:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Åzurε (Post 5840224)
IMO, Dragon is a good type for Legendaries. However, they shouldn't just stick with that. We have 16 other types, and they haven't even used some of them. I could think up a good Bug right now, more than likely. I'm leaning towards giant beetle.

The types that I predict will definitely not get much action, unfortunately, in the legendary pkmn category are:

Normal/flying
Bug
Fighting (maybe...we don't have one yet but it'd be sweet if we did)

Arc May 29th, 2010 7:15 PM

Oh man, both look awesome. But I'm gonna choose Zekrom as the better looking one ;D

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 29th, 2010 8:37 PM

These mascots are the best looking mascots since Groudon and Kyogre! Zekrom has markings or lines in it's neck and part of it's face that make it look mecha like plus, I like these marking actually and it's mecha look and I also like Reshiram's natural look... the only part not natural about it is it's tail... I bet their Signature moves will have to do with their tails Reshiram will most likely send a beam of light out from it's tail and Zekrom's signature move will be a drill like move involving it's "wind turbine".

Hibaru May 29th, 2010 8:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Barrage (Post 5840237)
Oh man, both look awesome. But I'm gonna choose Zekrom as the better looking one ;D

Me too. I like both, But not much for Reshiram!

vibratingcat May 29th, 2010 8:53 PM

i might get both as they're both awesome. i still think its weird that the black pokemon is in white and vice versa. i guess it looks nicer on the box.

PiPVoda May 29th, 2010 8:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5840374)
These mascots are the best looking mascots since Groudon and Kyogre! Zekrom has markings or lines in it's neck and part of it's face that make it look mecha like plus, I like these marking actually and it's mecha look and I also like Reshiram's natural look... the only part not natural about it is it's tail... I bet their Signature moves will have to do with their tails Reshiram will most likely send a beam of light out from it's tail and Zekrom's signature move will be a drill like move involving it's "wind turbine".

Yeah I wonder what they're sigs will be, can't wait to find out when the games come out.

Mortalis May 29th, 2010 9:01 PM

They're both so awesome! I love them, I love them, I love them! I can't wait. I don't know which I like better. D:

Ωmega May 29th, 2010 9:21 PM

Alright, a few things I have noticed.

1. Stop constantly hoping for a new type. We aren't getting one, the game is balanced, deal with it.

2. "Reshiram looks pure flying" or "Zekrom looks Dark/Steel." Fools, both are Dragon-typed. It hasn't been revealed if they are pure or part, but, from what I've observed with previous games, they're most likely going to be pure Dragon with Reshiram having a more Psychic-based movepool and Zekrom having a more Dark-based movepool. Remember, the games are Black and White, not Sky and Earth, so stop hoping for Flying- and Steel-types.

3. Zekrom does look like a monochrome Palkia as someone has stated before, but you have to keep this in mind: a lot of Pokemon look alike. Pikachu, Pachirisu, Plusle, and Minun all look alike. There are thousands upon thousands of pre-drawn Pokemon. One of them is bound to look like another.

4. Zekrom is the legend for White Version, Reshiram is the legend for Black Version. I'm getting both.

5. Zekrom is cooler. :D

Haza May 29th, 2010 9:57 PM

I won't be able to relax until I find out Reshiram's typing... It really does not suit anything but to be honest, Latias and Latios don't either.

Myles May 29th, 2010 9:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ωmega (Post 5840435)
1. Stop constantly hoping for a new type. We aren't getting one, the game is balanced, deal with it.

When did someone say the game wasn't balanced?

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Originally Posted by Ωmega (Post 5840435)
2. "Reshiram looks pure flying" or "Zekrom looks Dark/Steel." Fools, both are Dragon-typed. It hasn't been revealed if they are pure or part, but, from what I've observed with previous games, they're most likely going to be pure Dragon with Reshiram having a more Psychic-based movepool and Zekrom having a more Dark-based movepool. Remember, the games are Black and White, not Sky and Earth, so stop hoping for Flying- and Steel-types.

I don't think anyone has speculated pure-flying since that tidbit was revealed (if it truly was revealed, it could be just their species name after all), but I could be wrong.

shengar May 29th, 2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Myles (Post 5840481)
When did someone say the game wasn't balanced?

Adding more type just make it worse.

GoldvsRed May 29th, 2010 10:24 PM

Wait, Zekrom's in the White version? Great, now I can quit forcing myself to like Reshiram more! I actually don't really like Reshiram all that much... I just like bright colors! Still, Game Freak's really playing up this whole Yin Yang thing, to the point that the white Legendary's in the Black version, and the black Legendary's in the White version. It's... Confusing, to say the least. I nice, healthy dose of contrast, but it's still a lot harder to tell which version has which than, say, Diamond and Pearl!

DXrobots May 29th, 2010 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ωmega (Post 5840435)
1. Stop constantly hoping for a new type. We aren't getting one, the game is balanced, deal with it.

We didn't really need dark types. The Ghost type could have easily replaced it.

PiPVoda May 29th, 2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ωmega (Post 5840435)
Alright, a few things I have noticed.

1. Stop constantly hoping for a new type. We aren't getting one, the game is balanced, deal with it

Did you read anywhere for people constantly hoping for new types? Yes it was brought up a few times, but constantly...you're exaggerating xD. And the games may be balanced but that doesn't mean that they always will have to be. I'm sure pokemon will go on after gen 5 so you never know what game freak will do to keep it going.

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2. "Reshiram looks pure flying" or "Zekrom looks Dark/Steel." Fools, both are Dragon-typed. It hasn't been revealed if they are pure or part, but, from what I've observed with previous games, they're most likely going to be pure Dragon with Reshiram having a more Psychic-based movepool and Zekrom having a more Dark-based movepool. Remember, the games are Black and White, not Sky and Earth, so stop hoping for Flying- and Steel-types.
Well yes they're dragon-typed as we already know. You thinking Reshima will have more psychic-based movepool (though I sort of agree) and Zekrom having a dark-based isn't any better than what others were saying with 'reshiram looks pure flying type" and yada yada. I smell hypocrisy.

Diamond and Pearl had nothing to do with Palkia being part water or Dialga being part steel. Honestly, if you were asked back in '06 when they first revealed Dialga and Palkia if you thought they'd be steel/dragon and water/dragon based on their names would you have said yes? Get my drift? The names have nothing to do with what types the legendaries on their boxes will be. :cer_no:

3. I agree w/ you on that one.

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5. Zekrom is cooler. :D
You're really pushing my buttons tonight. I can accept the other stuff you said..but this...this is just askin' for war :pink_pissed:

billi1000 May 29th, 2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ωmega (Post 5840435)
1. Stop constantly hoping for a new type. We aren't getting one, the game is balanced, deal with it.

Who said Nintendo can't add newer types wuthout causing an imbalance? Nintendo is not going to add a new type if that type is going to be obsenely powerful. Does anybody remember psychic types back in the days of RBG, if you had a psychic type you would be ustoppable, even all ghost types were poison types as well so phychic would whipe them out as well. To balance that, Nintendo added dark types to the next generation that can own psychics easily since these attacks don't effect them. So Nintendo is not willing for this happen again, not to any Pokemon, that's why Darkrai isn't a Dark/Ghost or it would have been unbeatable.

If a light-type is to be added, then Nintendo will assure it isn't overpowerful and has its weaknesses to others. Reshiram would make a perfect "Light-Type" and keep in mind nintendo can add more types as long as equilibrium is maintained among all Pokemon and this so-called "Balance" doesn't soley depend on type.

Setosama May 29th, 2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldvsRed (Post 5840231)
Yeah, Ho-Oh with Punishment is awesome against Psychic-Types.

Lugia goes first, via SUPERIOR Speed.

Lugia uses a Physical Move and presents DEATH to Ho-oh! :D

Just kidding.

In all HONESTY though, Lugia can take WHATEVER Ho-oh or a VARIETY of other pokemon can dish at it... Ho-oh can't really say the same... Lugia can also be used to beat up MOST legendaries by Type Coverage as most are Dragon Type... Ho-oh can't really say the same, although it works EXCELLENT with Groudon and Sacred Fire is a five letter word that starts with "b"! :D

Also, if there IS a Light Type coming out... I predict it will be Super Effective against Ghost and Dark Types (as light illuminates darkness and ghosts only appear in dark places)... Not Very Effective against Grass Types (as plants absorb light for photosynthesis)... Have a complete immunity to or resistant to Dark and/or Ghost as well as resistances to Fire and Electric Types (as both of these create light).

And who else believes that these guys are gonna represent Heaven and Hell?

GoldvsRed May 29th, 2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Setosama (Post 5840562)
Lugia goes first, via SUPERIOR Speed.

Lugia uses a Physical Move and presents DEATH to Ho-oh! :D

Just kidding.

In all HONESTY though, Lugia can take WHATEVER Ho-oh or a VARIETY of other pokemon can dish at it... Ho-oh can't really say the same... Lugia can also be used to beat up MOST legendaries by Type Coverage as most are Dragon Type... Ho-oh can't really say the same, although it works EXCELLENT with Groudon and Sacred Fire is a five letter word that starts with "b"! :D

Yes, my Ho-Oh is as good as dead so long as there is a Rock-Type on my opponent's team. It does have a better back-story, though... Luckily, they added to Lugia's plot for SoulSilver, what with the whole war, and island-splitting thing...

Haza May 29th, 2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Setosama (Post 5840562)
And who else believes that these guys are gonna represent Heaven and Hell?

That's an idea, but it'd be a little too extreme for young Pokemon fans...

also, since I think of the Light-Type as an embodiment of purity, I think it would be weak against Poison.

loliwin May 29th, 2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by linkster7 (Post 5839005)
OMG THE BLACK ONE WAS MY DESIGN THAT I SENT THEM!!!!!!!! OMG I SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lmfao! XD

I have a feeling Reshii is going to be Fire/Dragon. :O

SinisterEternity May 29th, 2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by linkster7 (Post 5839005)
OMG THE BLACK ONE WAS MY DESIGN THAT I SENT THEM!!!!!!!! OMG I SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like yeah, but writting it in caps like this makes me want to not believe you. Well, as the others stated, do you have original sketches ? Though it's easy to just take a look at what a pro designer made, use it as reference then make fake-original-sketches. You'd have probably/or not gotten credits for it, I guess, or at least some "feedback". But I don't think you made it... C'x

Else, I agree with Haza, if there were a Light Type, main weaknesses could be Poison and Dark ! Maybe not Ghost, but I dunno xD
But yeah, I hope the pokedex won't deceive us >_o

Also, I wonder if they are gonna keep the Japanese names, or switch again to Englishized Names o:

loliwin May 29th, 2010 11:17 PM

I think linkster7 was being sarcastic. >_>
The Jap names are awesome! XD

GoldvsRed May 29th, 2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by loliwin (Post 5840644)
I think linkster7 was being sarcastic. >_>

...Or an attention w***e. Whichever floats ya' boat!

Ωmega May 29th, 2010 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PiPVoda (Post 5840531)
You're really pushing my buttons tonight. I can accept the other stuff you said..but this...this is just askin' for war :pink_pissed:

Bring it, home boy. XD

As for the hypocrisy thing, I didn't mean for it to come off like that.

Also, whoever said that the game doesn't need the Dark typing is dead wrong. The game NEEDS the Dark type. Ghost couldn't have taken it out because, back then, Ghost attacks did normal damage to Psychic types (or so I remember...) Either way, the Dark- and Steel-types were needed in order to balance the game.

Bluerang1 May 29th, 2010 11:54 PM

Oh, so my Light and Day concept was right :P Let's see if my storyline will be similar *pokes siggy*

Haza May 29th, 2010 11:57 PM

I still fail to see how anyone could possibly think that Psychic naturally opposes the Dark type is an idiot. If anything, Psychic is somewhere in between Light and Dark, especially after seeing the way Sabrina was portrayed once... and Reshiram does not look the least bit Psychic.

Hibaru May 30th, 2010 12:09 AM

New type isn't really gonna happen to me. What's it gonna be though? The current type now is seems fine to me.

Setosama May 30th, 2010 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5840593)

That's an idea, but it'd be a little too extreme for young Pokemon fans...

also, since I think of the Light-Type as an embodiment of purity, I think it would be weak against Poison.

That's a thought...


Oh, and BTW, the characters for these games are Teenagers at the VERY least! They're not 10 anymore!

And like using a pokemon(s) to change the shape of the world or very fabric of the universe is NOT too extreme? lol

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5840695)
I still fail to see how anyone could possibly think that Psychic naturally opposes the Dark type is an idiot. If anything, Psychic is somewhere in between Light and Dark, especially after seeing the way Sabrina was portrayed once... and Reshiram does not look the least bit Psychic.

Indeed, Dark was made to COMPLETELY COUNTER Psychic! They also made Ghost super effective against it.

Myles May 30th, 2010 12:35 AM

It could be of life and death, much more likely than them representing heaven and hell imo.

Although, I still think it will be day and night or light and dark at the moment.

Setosama May 30th, 2010 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Myles (Post 5840754)
It could be of life and death, much more likely than them representing heaven and hell imo.

Although, I still think it will be day and night or light and dark at the moment.

Why are heaven and hell unlikely?

Myles May 30th, 2010 12:40 AM

Same thing as Haza said really.

Setosama May 30th, 2010 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldvsRed (Post 5840579)
Yes, my Ho-Oh is as good as dead so long as there is a Rock-Type on my opponent's team. It does have a better back-story, though... Luckily, they added to Lugia's plot for SoulSilver, what with the whole war, and island-splitting thing...

Yes I did rather like the whole back-story with Lugia in SoulSilver. Although, in accordance to the anime, HeartGold makes a little more sense.

Doesn't really matter as both games are AMAZING and I wish The Pokemon Company would push them another year, much like they did with the originals but alas.

And all it takes is a Rock-Type MOVE... Not just a Pokemon. Or an Earthquake, if the player is DUMB enough to use Roost over Recover on Ho-oh.

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Originally Posted by Myles (Post 5840763)
Same thing as Haza said really.

And changing the volume of land and sea or distorting reality are NOT too extreme for children?! lol There is DEATH in EVERY SINGLE Disney Movie and most of those (if not all of them) are considered child friendly! HELL, MOST ARE G-RATED!!!

Also, the game characters are OLDER! It only makes sense that this game is meant to have a more mature audience! Not that this will stop 10 year olds and the like from playing these games as well it should not but people hear about religion ALL the time, no matter how it may get censored by the media. The more I think about it, Heaven and Hell make PERFECT Sense! It's really the only SENSIBLE way I can see it going.

I could be wrong, but that's how I'm calling it right now.

Haza May 30th, 2010 12:57 AM

Dude, you should calm down. The reason why Heaven and Hell are too extreme is obvious, drop it.

Volroc May 30th, 2010 1:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Setosama (Post 5840765)
Yes I did rather like the whole back-story with Lugia in SoulSilver. Although, in accordance to the anime, HeartGold makes a little more sense.

Doesn't really matter as both games are AMAZING and I wish The Pokemon Company would push them another year, much like they did with the originals but alas.

And all it takes is a Rock-Type MOVE... Not just a Pokemon. Or an Earthquake, if the player is DUMB enough to use Roost over Recover on Ho-oh.



And changing the volume of land and sea or distorting reality are NOT too extreme for children?! lol There is DEATH in EVERY SINGLE Disney Movie and most of those (if not all of them) are considered child friendly! HELL, MOST ARE G-RATED!!!

Also, the game characters are OLDER! It only makes sense that this game is meant to have a more mature audience! Not that this will stop 10 year olds and the like from playing these games as well it should not but people hear about religion ALL the time, no matter how it may get censored by the media. The more I think about it, Heaven and Hell make PERFECT Sense! It's really the only SENSIBLE way I can see it going.

I could be wrong, but that's how I'm calling it right now.

you do know 4kids ****s everything up right?
look at the butcher job they did to yugioh 5Ds, one piece (til they lost rights to it) 4Kids still has slight dominion over pokemon, so you know if its life& death, theyll piss& moan til is becomes life & "they went off on a journey" or some lame BS like that

Setosama May 30th, 2010 1:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5840777)
Dude, you should calm down. The reason why Heaven and Hell are too extreme is obvious, drop it.

It is NOT too extreme! It is, however, too awesome of an idea to NOT pass it up. The game has matured and evolved over the last 13 years. (14 if you go by the release date of the original Red and Green Versions in Japan.) That's right folks, Pokemon is 14 Years Old now!

Probably also why the main characters in these games are ALSO older than previous ones. We've already had that revealed a while ago. Also, if it does turn out the way I say, you know for sure it will be watered down over here and else where... For example, calling Dialga and Palkia "dieties" instead of "gods"... Or simply just calling them "guardians" will suffice in most cases.

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 5840784)
you do know 4kids ****s everything up right?
look at the butcher job they did to yugioh 5Ds, one piece (til they lost rights to it) 4Kids still has slight dominion over pokemon, so you know if its life& death, theyll piss& moan til is becomes life & "they went off on a journey" or some lame BS like that

Yes, I refuse to watch the english dub for 5D's and anything else they get their hands on. And, really, they don't. If they did, the VAs would probably not have been changed. It's REALLY the "Freakin' FCC" and humanity going through that whole touchy phase again.

We can't show guns anymore? Why? Children used to watch westerns all the time back in the day! Try making a western without firearms and see how it works. 4Kids is B>A>D-Bad, and they may be the devil (along with Leo Burnet of course) but the censorship spawns from something much, MUCH, worse.

Also, you forgot "the next dimension". lol :D

On another note... WHAT?! POKEMON HAS LASTED 14 YEARS?! WOW!!! Awesome! Be thankful we're even getting these things at all. Even the programmers thought it would die out after GSC! ;)

Haza May 30th, 2010 1:23 AM

You don't bring the concept of Heaven and Hell into a children's series is all I'm saying, and Pokemon is already known for having negative feedback from the churches anyway. There is no way in HELL that they'd purposefully bring that upon themselves... and they (Reshiram and Zekrom) don't even really look like that is what they represent...

Setosama May 30th, 2010 1:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5840800)
You don't bring the concept of Heaven and Hell into a children's series is all I'm saying, and Pokemon is already known for having negative feedback from the churches anyway. There is no way in HELL that they'd purposefully bring that upon themselves... and they (Reshiram and Zekrom) don't even really look like that is what they represent...

Really? Because I remember hearing a while back that the pope said pokemon was perfectly fine.

And there are PLENTY of different variations of heaven and hell OUTSIDE of Christianity you know. The games are Japanese. We are all pretty much sure that these dragons are gonna be classified as dieties (gods). It's not like Reshiram is God and Zekrom is The Devil. Although, really, Digimon got away with having Angels and Devils and Digimon Adventure (AKA Season 1) was considered a KIDS SHOW. It's already been stated by MANY a person that these Pokemon bear a STRIKING resemblance to Digimon's character artstyle.

Myles May 30th, 2010 1:32 AM

4Kids no longer has any affliation with Pokemon, so why even grin them up? Besides they didn't have any power over GameFreak/Nintendo/etc.

Were dialga and Palkia called deities? Either way deity means god anyway.

Oh and digimon was always more 'mature' in that way. And the later series started to get pretty dark too.

Setosama May 30th, 2010 1:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Myles (Post 5840813)
4Kids no longer has any affliation with Pokemon, so why even grin them up? Besides they didn't have any power over GameFreak/Nintendo/etc.

Were dialga and Palkia called deities? Either way deity means god anyway.

Watch the English Dub for Movie 10: "The Rise of Darkrai".

And while it DOES mean the same thing, to me, it kinda downgrades their status a bit...

However, at least they actually call them dieties instead of "beasts"... I'm looking at YOU 4KIDS! (Watch 2000)

The main characters is Digimon were ALSO older than Pokemon as well.

Also, I hate that I'm gonna hafta wait until at least AUGUST to hear what their Legendary Battle Music sounds like. :(

Alkaide May 30th, 2010 2:19 AM

The black one is deadly cool.

Teh white one is not much appealing, though, IMO.

Haza May 30th, 2010 2:33 AM

After what Pokebeach posted earlier this morning, I'm quite convinced that there just might be a Light type... the name Reshiram has a direct connection to Light, but relating to the time of day, and Zekron with darkness and night. That, and the fact that they'd reveal the legendary Pokemon without giving us their types...

Also, I feel like these legendary Pokemon are the epitome of Darkness and Light... and Zekron's special move will be called Black Hole, and Reshiram will have White Out

Setosama May 30th, 2010 2:43 AM

lolz, that would be interesting attacks.

Anyways, while these games ARE exciting, and I EAGERLY await their arrival, I think I'll be even MORE anxious when the Ruby and Sapphire Re-Makes are announced...

All things considered though... I AM looking forward to THIS generation more than I was for Diamond and Pearl.

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Originally Posted by Alkaide (Post 5840870)
The black one is deadly cool.

Teh white one is not much appealing, though, IMO.

I thought the same, at first... But the more I look AT Reshiram, the more I like it.

It could also just be that it's a White Dragon with Blue-Eyes... :D

It is also VERY elegant.

I can definitely say that, as far as design goes, while Zekrom DOES look VERY badass... Reshiram's tail looks WAY better... And Doggy-face kinda grows on me as well! X3

Rengoku May 30th, 2010 2:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Setosama (Post 5840893)
lolz, that would be interesting attacks.

Anyways, while these games ARE exciting, and I EAGERLY await their arrival, I think I'll be even MORE anxious when the Ruby and Sapphire Re-Makes are announced...

All things considered though... I AM looking forward to THIS generation more than I was for Diamond and Pearl.



I thought the same, at first... But the more I look AT Reshiram, the more I like it.

It could also just be that it's a White Dragon with Blue-Eyes... :D

It is also VERY elegant.

I can definitely say that, as far as design goes, while Zekrom DOES look VERY badass... Reshiram's tail looks WAY better... And Doggy-face kinda grows on me as well! X3

-Tackleglomp-
Yesyes! Elegant! :D

Flare Riqueza May 30th, 2010 2:50 AM

My thoughts "oh christ, I'm not buying them. I hope they're on normal DSi etc. though, coz I want an R/S remake".

Seriously, more dragons???

And I can just tell the whole story will be based on them!

I prefer how G/S/C/Hg/Ss did it. Not much backstory, but you still meet them.

Or even better.....the R/G/B/Y/Fr/Lg way: you don't even have to realise they exist!

Setosama May 30th, 2010 2:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rilence (Post 5840901)
-Tackleglomp-
Yesyes! Elegant! :D

OW! I THINK YOU BROKE MY... Mmmmmmm... Ribs........... lol

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Honestly... There's something about these new pokemon... The more I look at them, the more I like them.

And while at first glance, Zekrom seems like the more badass of the two of 'em... And then I take a closer look at Reshiram...

Look at Reshiram's face! It's gaze! SCARY! It has that look of: "You call me 'girly' and you are SO gonna die!" I think that Reshiram will end up surprising A LOT of people out there.

Rengoku May 30th, 2010 2:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Flare Riqueza (Post 5840903)
My thoughts "oh christ, I'm not buying them. I hope they're on normal DSi etc. though, coz I want an R/S remake".

Seriously, more dragons???

And I can just tell the whole story will be based on them!

I prefer how G/S/C/Hg/Ss did it. Not much backstory, but you still meet them.

Or even better.....the R/G/B/Y/Fr/Lg way: you don't even have to realise they exist!

I just hope it's not only for DSi s:
(I got 2 DSL, seriously)

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Originally Posted by Setosama (Post 5840913)
OW! I THINK YOU BROKE MY... Mmmmmmm... Ribs........... lol

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Honestly... There's something about these new pokemon... The more I look at them, the more I like them.

And while at first glance, Zekrom seems like the more badass of the two of 'em... And then I take a closer look at Reshiram...

Look at Reshiram's face! It's gaze! SCARY! It has that look of: "You call me 'girly' and you are SO gonna die!" I think that Reshiram will end up surprising A LOT of people out there.

*Replace Ribs*
:P

And yeahs, she's just, gorgeously deadly!

Haza May 30th, 2010 3:00 AM

Haha, it is funny how we all start saying the same things... I too fell for Zekrom initially but now I am really starting to appreciate Reshiram... it's beautiful and it will be the most unique Dragon Type yet... being non-reptilian like Altaria.

Setosama May 30th, 2010 3:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rilence (Post 5840914)
I just hope it's not only for DSi s:
(I got 2 DSL, seriously)



*Replace Ribs*
:P

And yeahs, she's just, gorgeously deadly!

One of the reasons I am actually looking FORWARD to this Gen. Maybe I'll be able to play it right away! Doing it for only the DSi and on is STUPID! DSi sucks anyways. I have an old RED DS that I got JUST to play SoulSilver.

And, you know that "SHE" is probably gonna be genderless right?

Unfortunately, even if Reshiram DOES have a gender, you probably won't be able to breed it.

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5840920)
Haha, it is funny how we all start saying the same things... I too fell for Zekrom initially but now I am really starting to appreciate Reshiram... it's beautiful and it will be the most unique Dragon Type yet... being non-reptilian like Altaria.

Yeah, Altaria was a bit of a disappointment stats wise...

Although, it IS the only Dragon that can Perish Song... That counts for something right?

Rengoku May 30th, 2010 3:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Setosama (Post 5840923)
One of the reasons I am actually looking FORWARD to this Gen. Maybe I'll be able to play it right away! Doing it for only the DSi and on is STUPID! DSi sucks anyways. I have an old RED DS that I got JUST to play SoulSilver.

And, you know that "SHE" is probably gonna be genderless right?

Unfortunately, even if Reshiram DOES have a gender, you probably won't be able to breed it.

Yeah, I only call her and her just because she looks more gracefully evil :P

&&. Yeah it'll be silly if it's an DSi-only game.

Myles May 30th, 2010 3:09 AM

I, too, am warming up to Reshiram more now.

And I'd say there's a different code for DSi-exclusive.

Hibaru May 30th, 2010 3:28 AM

The one I like about Reshiram is because its unique and I like its Blue Eyes. Zekrom, Its cool with the Black color like a machine especially its Arms and the Foots like Palkia!

Rich Boy Rob May 30th, 2010 4:38 AM

Judging by what was posted on Pokébeach I think I'm getting what will be the storyline of these games; I think Team Generic will try to summon either Zekrom or Reshiram (depending on version) and in White will try to create eternal night and in Black create eternal day. Similar Ruby & Sapphire did with land and sea. Alternatively it could be to do with eclipses.

As long as the legendaries have a decent backstory I'm happy. Even if it isn't explicitly noted in the main story.

seeker May 30th, 2010 5:51 AM

Some of the most original deisgns I've seen for a pokemon. in fact, they almost look like Digimon to be quite frank. But they're really really awesome, I'm happy with the outcome. My only issue is the "White" legendary actually looks quite demonic rather than a pure hearted being.

x0xave May 30th, 2010 6:15 AM

Well Reshiram is for Pokemon Black.
Zekrom is for Pokemon White.
Reshiram could be the Pokemon of the day.
Were as Zekrom could be the pokemon of the night.
Both pokemon hold the key to Day/Night.
Put them together, you can rule the planets weather, and life source.? I Don't know. :D

Yeah, there is some extra content, and speacil stuff for people whoi have the DSi. There could be more to do with the pokemon games.

billi1000 May 30th, 2010 6:51 AM

Could Zekrom be a man-made Pokemon? Its covered entirely with armour plates and has a jet engine as a tail, and seems pretty bionic and robotic, so it is plausible.
As well, these legends may represent heaven/hell, day/night, angel/demon, good/evil, how knows... but as long as there's a good storyline supporting the theme, the outcome should be epic.

NA3LKER May 30th, 2010 8:07 AM

definately prefer the black one

ComedyQuest May 30th, 2010 8:33 AM

For the first time, I'm gonna buy both games from one generation. All thanks to these beautifully designed legendaries.


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