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Haha, yeah, I also read that on Serebii seconds ago.
I just think she was goofy and it slipped. Like those recent iDevice leaks, accidental stuff that reveal more info to the public. But I'll love him to be Dragon-Electric ! Any new type combo is welcome ! ^^ |
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Either way, there is OBVIOUSLY some reason why they are keeping their second types extremely secret. Personally, I think it's just to piss us all off. :D Also, on a side note. Who here expected Groudon to be a Fire-Type pokemon the first time they saw him? |
I think I figured it out you guys..... Zekrom is definitely part electric, because his tail is one of those things you plug into a cigarette lighter to charge! So we can be sure at some point in the game he will plug his tail into a giant cigarette lighter and steal all the energy from the city! :O
Just kidding, but I like the idea that he may be electric. It would make a lot of sense with the whole computer thing (RAM, ROM). And I like how someone pointed out the cave with the blue electricity everywhere, this would also make sense with it. And I'm not completely sure, but I think the color of electricity depends on it's charge. |
Lol I find it funny how the guy quickly deleted the post LOL I bet his boss told him off or somthing XDXD
I think it could since it has that big jet thing as its tail, like those things on airoplanes. The first time I saw it I thought it might be a steel type though :\ |
I kind of think Reshiram is going to be Dragon/Flying, which would be lame. But hopefully looks can be deceiving this time.....
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Crap I forgot to quote some who mentioned Groudon. Anyway, yeah I thought Groudon would be a fire type instead of ground. Good thing it can learn fire type moves. |
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Hmmm... That typing seems completely wrong.
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for those who are saying that it just might be true, and see the blues reflecting off of it's body, as much as I'd hate this I have a theory. Reshiram also has reds reflecting from it's white body. And it's head and tail look like fire. This could still relate to Naturalization and Industrialization. Fire = NATURAL LIGHT, Electricity = Unnatural Light, for the most part anyway.
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For some reason, I am no longer excited about them anymore... I got my hopes up I guess.
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The Electric/Dragon typing is a new typing, Zekrom would be the first Pokemon of them all to hold it. When competative is a concern, this typing is an OK typing holding 7 resistances at the cost of 3 weaknesses. It's not a very efficient combination since it didn't serve to cancel out any weeknesses, and on the good side no weaknesses actually stacked to make a devastating 4X weakness.
But, I actually like this typing since I think we should have more electric type legendaries and it would be nice to see what a legend of that type will be capable of. As for Reshiram, if Zekrom ended up being half-electric type, then it looks like the whole light-type theory will be forgotten, although it may still be plausible. Reshiram to me looks like a Dragon/Fire type with levitate. Maybe their roles would be for Reshiram to "light the sky" and Zekrom to "light the city". |
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This was quite the surprise. I expected Zekrom to be dark, and the other one to be Psychic/Electric. I can't wait to get more info. |
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I hope that we do get a Dragon/electric legendary...than that turbine on Zekrom's back might be a electric generator...makes sense...
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I think she missenterpeted it and just deleted it because she got the typing wrong and didnt want to confuse anyone.
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And Garchomp has that feel too, and also he has the type of "ground type" yellow colourisation on him, also there's thier movepools. |
I think the third legendary in Pokemon Gray will be Dark type. Fire and Electricity both create light, and Darkness would end them.
So Fire/Dragon, Electric/Dragon and Dark/Dragon. This would be three new types combos! |
This is from Pokebeach:
"Reshiram's name comes from "shiro," which means "white" in Japanese, whereas Zekrom's comes from "kuro," which means "black." But as it turns out, the names also originate from the Japanese words "shiramu" and "kuromu," which mean "to grow light" and "to grow dark." Specifically, these words are used to refer to the sky becoming light and dark. Like we pointed out a few weeks ago, "hiun" in Hiun City's name can mean "clouds being blown by the wind." In addition to this, the bridge connected to Hiun City is named "Sky Arrow Bridge." So, we obviously have a sky theme going on in these two games in addition to the possible lightening or darkening of it. Thanks goes to Yaminokame for researching these name meanings. What do these tidbits and the names of the Legendary Pokemon tell us about Black and White's plot? This is just speculation, but perhaps the games will involve a story related to making the sky night or day, similar to the whole land and ocean dichotomy in Ruby and Sapphire." |
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"Reshiram's name comes from "shiro," which means "white" in Japanese, whereas Zekrom's comes from "kuro," which means "black." But as it turns out, the names also originate from the Japanese words "shiramu" and "kuromu," which mean "to grow light" and "to grow dark." Specifically, these words are used to refer to the sky becoming light and dark. Like we pointed out a few weeks ago, "hiun" in Hiun City's name can mean "clouds being blown by the wind." In addition to this, the bridge connected to Hiun City is named "Sky Arrow Bridge." So, we obviously have a sky theme going on in these two games in addition to the possible lightening or darkening of it. What do these tidbits and the names of the Legendary Pokemon tell us about Black and White's plot? This is just speculation, but perhaps the games will involve a story related to making the sky night or day, similar to the whole land and ocean dichotomy in Ruby and Sapphire. On Pokebeach they also theorized that Zekrom's tail could be a night generator. This makes the Electric/Dragon and Fire/Dragon theory even more realistic because there is a sky theme going on already, and Fire and Electricity can each cause light, darkness, and problems with the sky. |
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Legendary Origins?
Reshiram / Zekrom O.k. Here's what we know: Spoiler:
The question is, What purpose will the new legendaries have in the new generation? In Gen. 4, they had legendaries that created all space and time! What Could Possibly Top That? Now, Taking into account the big cities, electric type, and strange turbine tail, I'm thinking region wide energy crisis (sound familiar). But, if that is what we guess about Zekrom, what about Reshiram. One other thing I don't think anyone has noticed: The suffixes - ROM & RAM - respectively could stand for the data terms - Read Only Memory & Random Access Memory - prehaps pertaining to the digital age??? Love to hear your thoughts. |
I think an Electric/Dragon would be cool but I would rather see Zekrom as a Dark/Dragon. I hope this isn't leading onto the fact that Zekrom could be Electric. But honostly I don't know what to expect.
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... I think we may be overspeculating here. I mean really. You guys are theorizing that Reshiram and Zekrom must be electric and fire because a certain charge in volcanic ash can create lightning. Don't you think the company would base the legendaries on something less... Obscure? Maybe it's just me, but that aside, I would still love to see an electric-dragon/fire-dragon pairing.
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Both of these Pokémon look amazing! I am definitely gonna get both games. They aren't way over the top like the 4th generation's legends (especially Arceus, though it wasn't a mascot, but come on! The GOD OF POKéMON!? That's just... nevermind). I like Zekrom a lot, but I like Reshiram too. Zekrom doesn't look like an Electric-type, though, but it'd be wicked-cool if it was!!
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magnimite? magniton? electrode? voltorb? flaffy? do any of them have yellow? and rotom is red and blue. color has nothing to do with type. at all. |
i dislike the electric/dragon and fire/dragon. i really do.
i was really pulling for a light type. but all this new speculation dashes my hopes away......... |
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Hey, guess what? 493+7*=500. Somebody get a big cake! *-That's Pokabu, Mijumaru, Tsutaja, Zoroark, Zorua, Reshiram, and Zekrom. |
but i was talking about COLOR not shape, form, evolution, ect. just color. is there even a specific color for dragon types? no.
all I'm saying is that types are not depended upon color. |
Well, Electric would add credence to the whole "nature vs. tech" idea being thrown around.
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I agree with the new speculation 100%. It all makes sense now people have made it all clear. Electric/Dragon and Fire/Dragon would be great new type combos as well. For those who connot see the blue on Zekrom, look closer. They are there. I wont repeat what people have said because people don't want to read the same stuff over and over again. On a side note, as excited as I am about the new games, the new legendaries do live up to my expectations. I do not like their designs.
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The color does play a big part in type but not always... I always saw dragon as blue...there's Dialga, Bagon, Dragonair, Salamence, Altaria,ect. but not all are blue though... water is almost always light blue,fire is orange, Electric is Yellow,orange/red, and blue. Ground is brown,grey,ect. Dark has Black,grey,ect. you ge the point. |
but no one type is limited to one color.
if you go by colors them octilary should be fire, wobofet should be water, and rayquaza should be grass. once again, any type can be any color. |
Zekrom looks awesome, so I think I'll get Black.
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hahah...after I read the article on Serebii this morning, I spent the whole day at work thinking over what implications this may have on Reshiram's and Zekrom's roles in the game and in nature. The best I came up with is since Zekrom is now ostensibly an Electric/Dragon, he represents modernization and industry. Following that logic, I theorized that Reshiram would represent primacy and nature. To this end, I theorized that Reshiram would be a Grass/Dragon or Bug/Dragon, but nothing of his design supports either of those options. XD
I come on PC and see Sweet Smoochum's Fire/Dragon Reshiram theory and I slap myself silly for not seeing it sooner. XD |
If we're going with the natural/industrial thing shouldn't we consider a Normal typing for Reshiram? I mean, Normal is what represents some of the plainer, one might argue, more natural looking Pokemon.
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I do not understand him being an Electric, I already do not understand Lucario being a Steel type, along with Palkia being Water type
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sky theme sounds like an awesome idea! Sweet Smoochum you really presented your points well there, and made it believable
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that would be ill electic/dragon def get that
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So Zekrom really is an Electric type huh? Obvious...
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I'm going to agree with Sweet Smoochum here the idea of electric dragon and fire dragon seem real plausible considering the points and observations made.
Also like Timbjerr, the idea of industry for these legends have always been a thought for me considering the technological advances of the Isshu region. Its far to obvious by the tail resembling a generator in my opinion. Random: I like Smoochums :3 <3. They are indeed sweet. |
Like I have said before I have some agreement on both the legendaries typings because of there tails as well. Maybe Gamefreak was being crafty this time so they didn't want to reveal the second type yet. They wanted fans to speculate their types mainly due to there body color knowing that most would not think so much about the way both their tails looked and the industrialized region they reside in.
There is no doubt in my mind that lady is lying to the public just by Sweet Smoochums statement, the tail, and glowing blue on Zekrom that it isn't part electric. I'm not safe to say that I can agree wholeheartly with Reshiram being part fire but I welcome that as more fire types are need, fire dragon sounds like a very interesting type, and fire types are awesome period. Well we have to wait and see now and see if we are correct. Damn you Gamefreak for making me think so hard. |
I like how this new generation will hopefully focus less on myth and more on more modern themes. Kanto was originally more technological than the other regions so its legendary was a genetically engineered thing. I would like to see more legendaries along that theme.
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And it usually doesn't but I'm just saying MOST electric pokemon ARE yellow or have it on them. |
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Eh whichever has the best stats i go for it
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Voltorb and Electrode are Joke Pokemon really. Pick up a voltorb thinking it is a pokeball, KABOOM! Those and the Magnet Pokemon are the ONLY ones who break this rule. Every other Electric Pokemon is either predominantly yellow or has electric qualities and yellow on it somewhere! |
Ugh, on a positive note from me, maybe we could expect an attack caalled Black Lighting from Zekrom, and maybe White Flames from Reshiram.
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I'd like to say they will have weather effects like Kyogre and Groudon. NEW weather effects.
(if he's electric) Zekrom could have the Thunderstorm weather. (It sometimes hurts you and sometimes doesn't.) (if he's fire) Reshiram could have the Rising Smoke weather. (Decreases accuracy.) EDIT: And the legendary trio master would have Air Lock like Rayquaza did. :) |
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Considering the fact that Zekrom's design makes it incredibly plausible it is Electric-type, I have the feeling that Reshiram's whiteness and shininess might make it Ice, Electric or Fire. It would be pretty cool if they were both Electric/Dragon. Their two STABs - one super effective against the other Pokemon, one ineffective. Fire/Dragon seems more plausible in terms of story-wise, although I don't really see how it'd work with evil teams...
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I'd like to see a Dragon Ground, I love them! XD
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But if that blog post is correct about Zekrom being Electric than Reshiram wouldn't be. Since it was 'I like Electric, so I want Zekrom'.
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New legendaries are looking good, but Zekrom is too complicated to name it 'Pokemon'... But I like its design, even it looks similarly to Palkia.
Zekrom is probably dragon/electric type (but I don't exclude it's second type is dark) and Reshiram imo looks like dragon/ghost or dragon/flying type. |
Now that I think about it... Zekrom does sound like an Electric-Type name.
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This is only speculation and might not ring true, but I believe the Dark legendary Pokemon will most probably be Dark/Ground, and the white one would probably be an introduction to the "White type" Pokemon family.
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Both were confirmed Dragon/? types so Zekrom will be Dark/Dragon or Dragon/Dark, I dunno Cx |
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I wish we had more non-legendary Dragons >_< And yeah, why not Dragon/Electric ? Both would be good, imo ! ;3 |
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We already know that there is an attack that raises ACCURACY and Attack. So it IS possible... But I'd hate to see another legendary dragon get murdered by repeated earthquakes... :( Forget types, what about abilities... What abilities you think these guys'll have? Levitate? Pressure? or something new? |
Three Types?
With so much controversy over the types of Reshiram and Zekrom I thaught I would bring this up. So far we know they are both Dragon types. Some people think Reshiram will be either a Fire or Light type and some people think Zekrom will either be a Dark or Electric type. What if these Legendaries had 3 types which would mean Reshiram would be Dragon/Fire/Light and Zekrom would be Dragon/Electric/Dark. So many mysteries are in this game and if 3-type Pokemon were one of them, that might really affect gameplay. I am not saying I want this to happen (I am wishing for a Dark/Dragon Zekrom) but I still think that his could be a possibility. Discuss.
EDIT: I agree with what you all are saying about the unbalence. But what if 3-types was just for Reshiram and Zekrom? Again I'm not saying I want it to happen. Also for the record I think Charizard and Gyarados should've both been Dragon instead of Flying. |
Not gonna happen, that would completely warp everything the game has ever stood for type-advantage-wise. By doing this GameFreak would get more haters and more QQ than if the game sucked =/
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Not a chance. That only make the game even more inbalance. What happen if Gyarados and Charizard gain dragon type? I hope not, because i hate battling them even with their current type.
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I can pretty much guarantee that it won't happen. As others have said, it would imbalance the game so much almost to the point of it becoming unplayable.
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doubt it would happen. with black and white, it seems like they're going for simplicity. putting in 3 types would ruin it.
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Two types are too much to deal with, nevermind three! >_>
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I certainly won't want the change of having just two types (Though Gyarados and Charizard really deserved to be Dragon :P)
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No, maybe they need rework on the types
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No. Too uber. The point of making many types is that no one could be at an advantage or a disadvantage. That's what abilities are for, to try to make the Pokemon stronger without relying on its typing. Like, Volt Absorb, Motor Drive, Wonder Guard, Snow Cloak and Chlorophyll.
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Also, has anyone ever thought that Reshiram's typing could very well be Dragon/Ice? It hasn't been done before, and Reshiram's whole 'pure' look goes pretty well with Ice imo. Just my two cents. :3 |
I wonder if those two Legendary is a Robot-like Pokemon being. When I look at Zekrom, There's some kind of lines thing all over its body, And Reshiram I don't know for sure but their names are Robot-like. :p
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I LOVE RESHIRAM
It'll be awesome if Reshiram is Dragon/Ice. Zekrom...I don't really like it all that much. D; |
Everybody else just summed it up. 3 types would just mean more confusions for me and imbalances in the game. We should really work on combining more of the types we have now instead.
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What I'm thinking is in Black, they'll be a Black-Ou. And in White, they'll be a Whitewash. Like my concept, due to forces clashing :D
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I was going to get Black, but Zekrom... words cannot describe his awesome power!!!
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If Reshiram is Dragon/fire and Zekrom is Dragon/Electric... the third one will most likely be Dragon/Ice or if Reshiram is Dragon/Ice then the Third one will be Dragon/Fire much like the bird trio...with dragon rather than flying...and more powerful...
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on serabii it says they are both part dragon so no pure flying =(
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These are my favorite legendaries.
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Both Zekrom & Reshiram really have impressed me. I expected to see some really lame designs for the legendaries after gen IV, but these really look great. Zekrom doesn't strike me as a dragon-type though. It more closely resembles a Dark/steel type to me.
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Dragon/fire for Reshiram? I think that the Dragon/Ice would better suit it, and the third would be dragon/fire (if they're having a trio thing again). Nevertheless, nice combos. |
Actually, I have thought of this idea before too. And every time I bashed it down as wishful thinking and for the reasons already mentioned. I can't say why I want that either because the two types is already too much for me to remember (ex: Use thunder! Oh you [opponent] are part ground? What??? Well then, use ___(fill in a move here)__ instead. note to self- so-and-so is ground.... so-and-so appears again. Use thunder. It doesn't affect so-and-so. Oh yeah, how did I forget that you were part ground?) Though unlikely, I think it would be interesting if the legendaries (only legendaries, I shudder to think of the annoyances if it was every pokemon) were three types.
Also, Charizard never seemed like dragon to me, but Gyarados... He is not a flying type. At all. (in my mind at least) Where are his wings? He swims! |
Feh, I wish they'd say Zekrom wasn't Electric. I can see why they'd choose that, kinda. It's just not what I would have chosen.
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I really love reshiram, and zekrom is okay. I dont think theyre going to be new types in this generation, so i think reshiram-normal/dragon, zekrom-dark/dragon.
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I would really get confused too. I can usually remember most of the pokemon and what types they are but three types would be way too complicated. You said it might be possible that it could be Dragon/Dark/Thunder? So it is weak to Ice, Fighting, Bug, Ground, Dragon and is unaffected by Psychic? This is too much to process. Even now I had to think really hard and reread what I had written just to write his weaknessess down. I think they won't do it. Why? Too complicated. See? Simplicity is way better. Oh yeah and Gyarados is based on a japanese (or chinese? I forget) legend that if a fish jumped over some waterfall it would transform into a dragon and those dragons were like flying snakes with arms. I know you've seen them. Like in American Dragon:Jake Long his grandpa is that type of dragon. no wings but since he's a magical being he can fly...Yeah that makes sense. |
No. Please never let this happen. I will cry.
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There is no way they would do that. It would be so unspeakably bogus and impossible to win most battles. Too many 1-type pokemon and pokemon with limited movesets would become entirely unusable and the game would cease to be good in any aspect.
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It would be very confusing especisally to those who plan and create offical battling teams. OU and UU ect. Plus it would take the little bit of simplicity left in the games. Nintendo will lose many fans and players and once the word gets around the White and Black games will probably be a fail. And we don't want that. Even to those who just play the game for fun, "like me" it would be confusing because I do use type advantages and disadvantages to good use.
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Games that make you think are a good thing... people, stop being so simple. New Types won't be THAT dramatic when it comes to remembering resistances and such all over again. It's still the same math.
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