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bobandbill May 31st, 2010 3:32 AM

Well considering the blog post's general gist was about how she mentioned about her love for electric types and stated that due to this, she wanted to get Zekrom', and the person was the host of Pokemon Sunday (and a voice actor in a poke. movie as well?) and the fact it was hastily edited out... seems to be the case. Not confirmed but seems to be an accidental leak there - probably a safe bet that it's electric now tbh.

i don't think it all that bad - kinda like the idea of it being Dragon/Electric. But what does that make the other legendary? (And tbh the chance of the ying/yang theme doesn't mean that the legendaries have to be dark/whatever type either... dragon itself is kinda symbolic as it is both weak and strong against itself).

Haza May 31st, 2010 3:47 AM

Ugh, your right... and if it is indeed an Electric type, I still hate it and that would also REALLY lead me to believe that it is a man made Pokemon. I guess since Dialga already has Steel/Dragon typing they didn't want to reuse it.

Nash Bandicoot May 31st, 2010 3:55 AM

It doesn't add up, if it's an electric type why is it entirely black?
I know it's one of the versions colours but really?
I think it's fake info or the colours will be changed.

MikieJo May 31st, 2010 4:02 AM

Wat r dere stats hopefully dere gud but there legendarys so dey have 2 b

Townlain03 May 31st, 2010 4:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nash Bandicoot (Post 5843418)
It doesn't add up, if it's an electric type why is it entirely black?
I know it's one of the versions colours but really?
I think it's fake info or the colours will be changed.

most pokemon can be a color and not be a type of that color
there are many ways for this to happend but thatll take forever

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Originally Posted by MikieJo (Post 5843430)
Wat r dere stats hopefully dere gud but there legendarys so dey have 2 b

sorry but i couldn't read that the first time around
and bad grammar killed the cat

Myles May 31st, 2010 4:11 AM

Ugh, I don't like the sound of dragon/Electric (for Zekrom, not in general).

But if they turn out to not be dragon-type (it isn't actually confirmed, only that they're dragons, not that their dragon-type), it could be dark/Electric and than Reshiram could be Light/Flying, Normal/Flying (opposite of dark, if there's no Light-type), Light/Grass (opposite of Electric) or Nomal/Grass.

bobandbill May 31st, 2010 4:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nash Bandicoot (Post 5843418)
It doesn't add up, if it's an electric type why is it entirely black?
I know it's one of the versions colours but really?
I think it's fake info or the colours will be changed.

Since when did black have to equal dark type? =/ (And not the first instance - look at Luxray and its dark appearance...and its lack of a dark type. Or Flygon and its bug-like appearance...and its ground-dragon typing). Not all electric types are yellow either. (Again, luxray). It being electric could come from that tail of its which is reminiscent of a jet engine, and hey, appearances can be misleading.

And again, although it's not yet 100% confirmed the source is something one would generally trust (voice actor for anime and host of Pokemon Sunday's blog - Pokemon Sunday a show where we've gotten many screenshots and bits of info about 5th gen and HGSS). And it's too late to change colours - why change them when they've been released, and wreck with the black/white colour theme as well? =/
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Wat r dere stats hopefully dere gud but there legendarys so dey have 2 b
I understand I believe W don't know, and will likely find out only when the games come out. (I believe we didn't even know the typings of Dialga/Palkia until D/P came out...so we're way ahead with the now, bar not knowing much at all what their role will be). But yes, it is likely they will have very good stats. =P

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Ugh, I don't like the sound of dragon/Electric.

But if they turn out to not be dragon-type (it isn't actually confirmed, only that they're dragons, not that their dragon-type), it could be dark/Electric and than Reshiram could be Light/Flying, Normal/Flying (opposite of dark, if there's no Light-type), Light/Grass (opposite of Electric) or Nomal/Grass
Pretty sure that it has actually been said they are Dragon types from what I have read... that's the wording serebii stated the Daisuki Club used anyways.

Am I the only one on PC who likes the typing so far? =P

Myles May 31st, 2010 4:24 AM

Oh, I hadn't read the Serebii.net version of that update. People's insistence on them being 100% without doubt Dragon-type is starting to make sense. From what I've read Daisuki Club only referred to them as 'legendary dragon Pokemon'. But, anyway.

Daydream May 31st, 2010 4:52 AM

I just saw these. o__o

And they look damn awesome. I'm at a loss so far as to which one I'd pick. D: Hopefully they'll have some interesting backstories and typings that'll help me decide ( although Dragon/Electric sounds pretty cool).

Rengoku May 31st, 2010 4:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash Bandicoot (Post 5843418)
It doesn't add up, if it's an electric type why is it entirely black?
I know it's one of the versions colours but really?
I think it's fake info or the colours will be changed.

And so may I ask - Why is a Pink and whitish dragon part water aka Palkia?
Why must electric be yellow, and why can't it be like, say, brown?
Hilarious how people see things, much?

myrrh25 May 31st, 2010 5:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 5843445)
Am I the only one on PC who likes the typing so far? =P


noo, I quite like the idea of an Electric/Dragon... Mainly because Electric is my favourite type, and the Dragon aspect will also give it the power i've always wanted out of an Electric type :3 (although Electivire is pretty strong)

Hibaru May 31st, 2010 5:35 AM

I would really like it if Zekrom second type is Electric! Now that's a New unique combination! haha! :D

Cynder The Bloody Angel May 31st, 2010 5:51 AM

they look PRETTY AWESOME =D OMFG !!!!!!!!

Natsu Dragneel May 31st, 2010 6:12 AM

Anyone noticed of ZekROM and ReshiRAM? ROM and RAM xD

~Drak

Anuhrima May 31st, 2010 6:13 AM

A dark dragon would be better imo.

Riku May 31st, 2010 6:45 AM

My only problem with them will be if they do indeed wind up being something like Dragon/Flying and Dragon/Electric. If that rumor is indeed very true about Zekrom, I'm not gonna be happy. The Electric typing doesn't fit the Pokemon at all. And don't say that the same can be said of Palkia or Flygon again because they indeed have some justifiable reasons for their types. Flygon was a DRAGONfly: an insect that, while having the ability to hover, could not fly like you'd expect from a Dragon. Therefore, the Ground/Dragon typing works. As for Palkia, it is covered with pink pearls. Pearls come from oysters which come from the sea. It's justifiable. Palkia also has the fins and fluidity that is associated with water. It works. The Shinx line also is fitting of its type. It has yellow on each of them somewhere, plus they retain that spikiness feature that is typically associated with the Electric type (like the Shuriken tails). For Zekrom, there is no rigidity save for the point on its tail. It's all fluid and flowy. The black monochrome color scheme isn't indicative at all of Electric, either. Usually it's distinctive features or colors or the type of creature that associates the Pokemon and type together, but none of those are the case here. About the only thing about Zekrom that could make the Electric thing work is its jet turbine tail, but even that could be twisted. It could also indicate Flying and Fire, too. Pretty much anything that can generate energy can be associated with that feature, so that basis is kinda meh. Then again, this is all still a rumor, but I just really wanted to voice my opinion on the matter.

ThePinkDragon May 31st, 2010 6:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Stand Alone (Post 5843661)
My only problem with them will be if they do indeed wind up being something like Dragon/Flying and Dragon/Electric. If that rumor is indeed very true about Zekrom, I'm not gonna be happy. The Electric typing doesn't fit the Pokemon at all. And don't say that the same can be said of Palkia or Flygon again because they indeed have some justifiable reasons for their types. Flygon was a DRAGONfly: an insect that, while having the ability to hover, could not fly like you'd expect from a Dragon. Therefore, the Ground/Dragon typing works. As for Palkia, it is covered with pink pearls. Pearls come from oysters which come from the sea. It's justifiable. Palkia also has the fins and fluidity that is associated with water. It works. The Shinx line also is fitting of its type. It has yellow on each of them somewhere, plus they retain that spikiness feature that is typically associated with the Electric type (like the Shuriken tails). For Zekrom, there is no rigidity save for the point on its tail. It's all fluid and flowy. The black monochrome color scheme isn't indicative at all of Electric, either. Usually it's distinctive features or colors or the type of creature that associates the Pokemon and type together, but none of those are the case here. About the only thing about Zekrom that could make the Electric thing work is its jet turbine tail, but even that could be twisted. It could also indicate Flying and Fire, too. Pretty much anything that can generate energy can be associated with that feature, so that basis is kinda meh. Then again, this is all still a rumor, but I just really wanted to voice my opinion on the matter.

I have an issue with the bolded text.

What about Mareep and Flaaffy? What about Voltorb and Electrode?

I don't find any of those to be spiky and they are pure Electric. So I think it's totally feasible for Zekrom to be a Dragon/Electric. But like you said, it's only a rumor.

Riku May 31st, 2010 6:58 AM

I said typically. Also, I said that it is also often associated with what the Pokemon is based upon. The Mareep line, with the exception of Ampharos, is based upon sheep. Sheep -> Wool -> Fleece -> Notoriety for static shocks. Voltorb has been heavily hinted at to be the result of something happening to a Pokeball, an electronic device. I never said that the criteria fits every Pokemon of the types, but they all at least have something in common with their typing, as I said. Whether it be coloring, features, or whatever they're based upon. The only ones I can think of that really can't be justified are the Normal Types, but since most normal types have neutral color schemes, and neutral is often synonymous with normal or blankness, it fits them. To a degree. I'm not dissing an Electric/Dragon, but Zekrom shouldn't be the one in my opinion to be that Pokemon.

miltankRancher May 31st, 2010 7:20 AM

most epic legendary of all time. this certainly defeats Arceus. <in your face, god-pokemon!) best. ifellinlove/10

Astinus May 31st, 2010 7:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Stand Alone (Post 5843696)
I never said that the criteria fits every Pokemon of the types, but they all at least have something in common with their typing, as I said. Whether it be coloring, features, or whatever they're based upon. The only ones I can think of that really can't be justified are the Normal Types, but since most normal types have neutral color schemes, and neutral is often synonymous with normal or blankness, it fits them.

There are exceptions to every type casting. For instance, with the "Normal-types have a neutral colour scheme", Jigglypuff is a Normal-type, but its color scheme is bright pink. Same with Porygon, who's a good shade of red and blue. There will always be exceptions to the rules of Pokemon designs. Why can't Zekrom be another Pokemon who is a type that no one expects it to be?

Besides, as others have said, Zekrom has a tail that looks like a jet engine. Which could mark it as an Electric-type, as you said. Right now, it's not confirmed, so we could be giving our opinions on something that's not going to happen.

That said...

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Am I the only one on PC who likes the typing so far? =P
It doesn't bother me, though I guess that's because Electric is one of my favorite types.

The Doctor May 31st, 2010 7:32 AM

Except That The Two New Legendaries Are PURE DRAGON TYPE!

JP May 31st, 2010 7:33 AM

People really shouldn't say Dragon/Electric doesn't suit the Pokemon. From an aesthetic point of view, that may be true. But the thing about this is that we have absolutely no idea what the back story to these legendaries is. As someone else mentioned, the idea of this Pokemon being a man-made legendary would make sense with its typing and it's whole mechanical, dark look. I'm sure the typing will make a lot more sense once we gain knowledge of what the back-story is on these two creatures.

I would have preferred Dragon/Dark, but I'm pleased that it may be Dragon/Electric. Definitely an interesting typing.

Lopnis May 31st, 2010 7:38 AM

They look cool bet the black ones Dragon/Dark and the white one will be Dragon/some new type probably light

ThePinkDragon May 31st, 2010 7:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Opera Ghost (Post 5843781)
Except That The Two New Legendaries Are PURE DRAGON TYPE!

If you state it like a fact then back it up, dear. :)

Spikey-Eared Pichu May 31st, 2010 7:52 AM

Boo =( No Dragon/Electric! Zekrom looks too damn cool and black to be Electric! Why the hell do they have to have the Dragon-subtype anyways? I'd be perfectly happy with an Electric/Dark zekrom, but nooooo GameFreak has to go and make more Dragon-legendaries!


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