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Xander Olivieri June 11th, 2010 10:46 AM

Comming from here

Zerkom = Electric/Dragon
Reshrim = Fire/Dragon

Two unique combinations that haven't been done yet. Their abilities Turbo Blaze and Terra Voltage sound awesome. What can we expect of these two?

Pandemonioum June 11th, 2010 10:57 AM

Terra Voltage, hopefully it let's Zekrom's electric attacks reach the ground pokemon and hurt them :P

Haza June 11th, 2010 11:14 AM

I'm positive that Terra Voltage is probably going to allow him to hit Ground-Types with Electric-Type moves which is gonna be quite impressive.

MartinJF June 11th, 2010 11:17 AM

And Turbo blaze might make all Fire attacks hit first?
I dunno

Haza June 11th, 2010 11:19 AM

Or maybe using Fire-Type moves will raise Reshiram's speed...

SargeantMajorKururu June 11th, 2010 11:33 AM

Why not...
 
Turbo Blaze: Similar to normal Blaze, but effect happens when he has more HP and it raises his Fire-Type attacks A LOT more? Or maybe they did make a new type that Fire doesn't normally effect and Reshiram's ability counters it?

Juu-Chan June 11th, 2010 12:10 PM

HO ARCEUS
RESHIRAM'S EVEN SEXIER THAN GIRATINA

...sweet mother of sake, that's gonna hurt him :-(

The black one is weird. I bet Reshi-san would throw awesome parties~

but again this will seriously tick off giratina...

[email protected]! June 11th, 2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SargeantMajorKururu (Post 5872571)
Turbo Blaze: Similar to normal Blaze, but effect happens when he has more HP and it raises his Fire-Type attacks A LOT more? Or maybe they did make a new type that Fire doesn't normally effect and Reshiram's ability counters it?

What's Bruce Lee's favorite drink???

WAAH TAAAAAAHH!!!!

dithyrambos June 11th, 2010 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juu-Chan (Post 5872664)
HO ARCEUS
RESHIRAM'S EVEN SEXIER THAN GIRATINA

...sweet mother of sake, that's gonna hurt him :-(

The black one is weird. I bet Reshi-san would throw awesome parties~

but again this will seriously tick off giratina...


N...noooo! Ram-chin isn't cuter than Gira-tan! It's a pretty close call, though. And I'm definitely getting Pokemon Black. Although, I am disappointed that he's a Fire/Dragon-type. I was really hoping he'd be an Ice-type.

Superjub June 11th, 2010 12:34 PM

Finally! A Fire/Dragon Pokemon!!! :) However, I don't understand why it's fire/dragon. It doesn't look very firey (is that even a word? :P) to me... :\ It looks more Dragon/Flying or Dragon/Normal. :\

Cyberglass June 11th, 2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Retribution (Post 5872740)
Finally! A Fire/Dragon Pokemon!!! :) However, I don't understand why it's fire/dragon. It doesn't look very firey (is that even a word? :P) to me... :\ It looks more Dragon/Flying or Dragon/Normal. :\

I think the fire is referenced in that Reshiram's tail looks like a tiki-torch. The same way Zekrom's jet-engine tail makes it electric type.

DXrobots June 11th, 2010 1:02 PM

I was pretty close I had guessed Ice/dragon as one of the types not Electric/dragon

SargeantMajorKururu June 11th, 2010 1:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected]! (Post 5872670)
What's Bruce Lee's favorite drink???

WAAH TAAAAAAHH!!!!

Well I know that, but Ground is unaffected by Electric. So if Terra Voltage allows Zekrom's ability to hit ground with electric, then it would be extremely one-sided in comparison to Reshiram's ability if they didn't have a new type that is immune to fire.

BleuVII June 11th, 2010 3:12 PM

My own post, #584, posted on May 31st:
Quote:

Originally Posted by BleuVII (Post 5844025)
Well, this may dispel the Dark/Light rumors, if it is confirmed, but it gives hope for one more thing. If Zekrom is Electric/Dragon, do you think that Reshiram might FINALLY give us the Fire/Dragon combo people have been looking for?! Electric and Fire have no type advantage over one another, and Reshiram's tail DOES look like a torch. Here's hoping.

So, here's my moment of gloating. I totally called it. I'm just sad that our best hope for Light Type pretty much went out the window.

Anyway, do you think there will be a third creature to round out the trio? Maybe they are going to do another generation like G/S, which only had two mascot pokemon and borrowed the Crystal mascot from a different trio. If they were going to include another Legendary Dragon for "Gray" Version, what type combo could they use? Off the top of my head, I could only see a Ground/Dragon which would be strong against both. Any other ideas?

Toxicroak June 11th, 2010 3:14 PM

im not surprised about their types, Reshiram's tail resembles a fire torch and Zekrom's tail resembles a jet engine (hence electricity)

dieter57 June 11th, 2010 3:20 PM

why?
why gamefreak why?
i wanted a light ype.......................
soooooo badly....................
fire dragon?
why......................

GoldvsRed June 11th, 2010 3:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleuVII (Post 5873177)
Anyway, do you think there will be a third creature to round out the trio? Maybe they are going to do another generation like G/S, which only had two mascot pokemon and borrowed the Crystal mascot from a different trio. If they were going to include another Legendary Dragon for "Gray" Version, what type combo could they use? Off the top of my head, I could only see a Ground/Dragon which would be strong against both. Any other ideas?

I'm assuming it will be an Ice-Type, because Game Freak seems to be trying out the whole "new-but-retro" trend for Black and White... Luckily, they're doing it right, by understanding that 8-bit =/= nostalgic, and that great, memorable designs = nostalgic.

SinisterEternity June 11th, 2010 4:56 PM

You guys probably have seen on Bulbapedia, Reshiram going to be a Dragon/Fire type and Zekrom a Dragon/Electric type ! No new types, yeah...As mentioned above :cccc
And, I'm "glad" Reshi is taller than Zekrom xD
I personally would have prefered it the Dragon was their second type, not the first :c
Makes them weak to ice and all ;w; But at least Reshiram isn't "Dragon/ice" so Zekrom can kill it easily xD *Reshifan*

FieryGrave June 11th, 2010 5:10 PM

I think the white one looks like moltres

Tanaki June 11th, 2010 5:23 PM

I'm confused by the boxes as to which game has which, but Reshiram is my definite pick.

dieter57 June 11th, 2010 5:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanaki (Post 5873680)
I'm confused by the boxes as to which game has which, but Reshiram is my definite pick.

reshiram is in black
zekrom is in white

dithyrambos June 11th, 2010 5:42 PM

Although I really want a new type, I had a feeling Reshiram wasn't going to be it. I- - I still have hope (hnnnnng).

I think the third mascot will be Dragon/Psychic, only because there is a very blatant pattern going on here: both Ram-chin's and Rom-chan's types are a form of energy. The third dragon could be a Psychic-type, to represent psychic energy? (Or maybe it'll be a new type woohoo.... probably not, I know.)

fenyx4 June 11th, 2010 8:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dithyrambos (Post 5873764)
Although I really want a new type, I had a feeling Reshiram wasn't going to be it. I- - I still have hope (hnnnnng).

I think the third mascot will be Dragon/Psychic, only because there is a very blatant pattern going on here: both Ram-chin's and Rom-chan's types are a form of energy. The third dragon could be a Psychic-type, to represent psychic energy? (Or maybe it'll be a new type woohoo.... probably not, I know.)

Interesting... the forms of energy concept could work alongside the whole light-dark theme I'm deriving from the legendaries... And I'm pulling for a new type as well! (Go Light!)

I've been skeptical about a Dragon/Fire combo Pokemonfor a while, since dragons are commonly depicted breathing fire, so it seems sort of redundant IMO. But Reshiram seems to execute it perfectly. :D With its TURBINE TAIL OF DOOM resembling a torch, and being a sort of personfication of white fire, it just seems to fit.

And Zecrom+Thunder+Electricity complements each other perfectly (the name sounds computer-ish, even!). For some reason, I've wanted to teach Zecrom Thunder ever since I saw it. Dragon/Electric looks like it will be very fun to use (reminds me of Cyclohm from the Smogon Create-A-Pokemon Project...)

I really hope the third mascot legendary sibling isn't Dragon/Water. It makes sense with fire, water, and electricity, though, but Dragon/Water is popping up a bit too much now (and we just had Palkia feature that combo, with Kingdra tagging along from Gen II) :\

Still, I have a feeling that all of the Gen V legendaries will be awesome!

Cyberglass June 11th, 2010 8:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SinisterEternity (Post 5873569)
You guys probably have seen on Bulbapedia, Reshiram going to be a Dragon/Fire type and Zekrom a Dragon/Electric type ! No new types, yeah...As mentioned above :cccc
And, I'm "glad" Reshi is taller than Zekrom xD
I personally would have prefered it the Dragon was their second type, not the first :c
Makes them weak to ice and all ;w; But at least Reshiram isn't "Dragon/ice" so Zekrom can kill it easily xD *Reshifan*

Actually, the order doesn't matter for weaknesses; Zekrom will be weak to Ice, and Reshiram won't because of the fire typing.

A full list of weaknesses:
Reshiram: Rock, Ground, Dragon
Zekrom: Ice, Ground, Dragon

Xander Olivieri June 11th, 2010 8:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenyx4 (Post 5874250)
I've been skeptical about a Dragon/Fire combo Pokemon for a while, since dragons are commonly depicted breathing fire, so it seems sort of redundant IMO.

This is really only true outside of Asia. Asianic Dragons are born of singular elements. They have Dragons of Ice, of Fire, of Earth, of Air, of Water, etc. The Oriental Dragons were not all fire breathers, that was a western rendition when they also made dragons the embodiment of greed and evil.


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