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Charizard-like Pokémon in Gen V?
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Just a play with humor, but really... is anyone else scared that B/W is seeming to turn into a form of Digimon? |
The Legends don't look very "Pokémon". But then again, what is "Pokémon"?
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The more realistic looking detail you add to a Pokemon, the less it feels like a Pokemon.
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lx_theo: couldn't have said it any better! Though I fail to see the 'realism' in Zekrom and Reshiram.
Poster, I don't think they resemble digimon as much now as I did when I first laid eyes on them. Actually I'd say they pass Dialga/Palkia and maybe even Kyogre/Groudon in looks. **possibly even lugia/ho-oh but I don't wanna upset the j-lovers tonight^^** |
I don't see digimon at all. If anything, the two legendary Pokémon are Arceus-like in appearance, and the dark one has similarities to Palkia.
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@PiPVoda How do I phrase this... The best way I can think of is comparing two similar legendaries, Lugia and Reshiram. Lugia exemplifies a more simple beauty to the designs that has become more of a Pokemon feel. The difference is two thing primarily. Cartoonishness (real word?) and the detail of the details. A traditional Pokemon feeling Pokemon tends to have a more cartoonish look to it, these are slightly more, as I'd call it, matured in that sense of design. What contributes to that is the the detail in the detail. A small addition of detail all around can add a more realistic look, like instead of just looking liked the feathers on Reshiram are implied by the design, like on Lugia, it actually looks like it has feathers throughout it. At least that's how I see it. Its not a bad thing, though. |
I think there are a few elements of digimon if you are actually looking for them. I honestly didn't even think of it until other people mentioned it. I think the designs are pretty nifty actually and just like every new legendary, it's going to look odd until we've gotten used to them.
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I agree with lx_theo in the fact that when you add more detail they look less pokemon like and more digimon-ish. They have in fact tried to put more and more detail into the pokemon (particularly legendary pokemon) each generation and in my opininion strayed rather far from the original.
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i don't see digimon in them at all. i see two awesomely pwning legends in what i expect to be the sweetest pokemon games so far!
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I personally love the fact that they have a lot of detail. It makes them look more intimidating, which is how powerful legendaries should look. It may not have the same "feel", but did you expect Ken Sugimori to stick with the same style? I just like them, and I don't pay attention to Digimon, so I don't care if they look like 'em. Basically what dieter57 said.
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I've never think the new ones look even like Digimon, in fact, I really like the fact there are more and more Pokemons, and I really love how they turn'ed out!
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Well I'd say Reshiram looks more Digimon-like to me, as its face seems to resemble Greymon in my opinion. Zekrom looks perfectly great. But then again, the previous generation's legendaries were even more 'realistic', or whatever. I think it's just the art style that makes it look more real, as it's beginning to become more 3D-ish.
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I agree that the new pokemon are closer to digimon than first gen, but really, I don't think the simplistic design of the original pokemon could survive today.
@lx_theo, What you're saying is not entirely correct. I have to say, pidgey looks a lot kore realistic than Swablu. I beleive the more complicated the designs get, the more they are associated with digimon. I still love the designs, no matter what. They truly look like fantastical, legendary creatures. |
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I see your point about the detail. While Mew Two has mostly flat bases and solid colors (Which I'm not saying is a bad thing), Lugia has the back feathers and wings, Raquaza obtains horns and lots of detail lines along the side of his body, and Dialga has a much greater sense of detail and realism.
How ever, I see this only as an acomplishment to how pokemon itself as a whole is evolving. I personally look forward to the new legendaries and pokemon to come. I do believe that the designers are running out of ideas. If you take a close look at them, you'll see resemblances to previous pokemon. Zekrom, for example, has an underside similar to that of Palkia. And what's with the tails??? |
Does it feel the same as the original Pokemon? No.
Is it a bad thing? No. The thing is, in the game, the sprites are all going to be in the same style. You can't put that much detail into a small sprite of, what is it, 64x64? |
Well they did say that we were going to be left asking if this is really pokemon... the legendaries are like Pokemon meet's digimon! which I like!
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Huh? I loved them, they doesn't likes Digimon at all, Pokemon is much better than Digimon
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I dunno, I felt like the fourth generation became more cartoon-ized than the previous 3 generations. Maybe a bit more of a "cutesy" factor, if you get what I'm saying. I don't think it would be a bad thing if the fifth generation got a little more, well, serious.
Compare the starters, if you will. Yes, they are all cartoons, but turtwig and bulbasaur are completely different styles of art, to me. Bulbasaur looks like it could actually work, whereas I feel like Turtwig's head would make him fall over because it is too big for his poor body. Anyway, that's off subject. Different. Is. Good. Sometimes. :) |
reshiram really does (to me at least) looks like a giant chicken with a face of a dog. A thought occurred right now as seeing is this pokemon is mascot for white, that it might actually be an ice type, which would be the closest type for the color white...since there isn't a "light" type. but hey, whose to say right? dark and steel were added in 2nd gen and i suppose ghost did too, in a sense
zekrom looks very sleek in his design, im just not found of that huge tail-thingamajig in the back. it looks like a bee sting kind of tail :T we might have our dark/dragon dual typing as well. But that is just me speculating of course |
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aside from that, ill be buying white because the black legendary is dope. he's looking like a dark/steel type, which would freaking rock. (aside from a 4x fighting weakness >_<) |
I think they're awesome and they don't seem to remind me of Digimon in anyway at all.
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But these are only the game like Pokemon images. Aren't they? So, they'll probably look slightly different in the Anime if they show up of course. |
I just looove how the complaints increase as the sprite resolution goes up.
Generations one and two were obviously the most similar, but even they had their differences. Raikou, Suicune, and Entei are probably the most "untraditional" pokemon as compared with the first 150. Essentially, the art style seems to be what people don't like here. Using the above examples, Mewtwo (this is expanded from JakeClowd's post) had little shading, and has only two major colors. Lugia had 3, and more shading. Rayquaza's body seems to be textured slightly, and while mainly green one also obviously sees yellow and red and black. Finally, Dialga simplifies a bit, but has a different tone, almost like something extraterrestrial. Then we have Zekrom, even more alien-seeming than Dialga, with an almost-inorganic texture and iridescent accents. Pokemon designs started off easier to relate to (lab experiment, okay, disbelief suspended), and progresses farther out (wth is this thing? [answer: an original fictional being]). TL;DR: The designs just get harder to cope with as they use up basic ideas, and the art style changes to reflect that. |
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