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BleuVII June 3rd, 2010 6:54 PM

You know, Pokemon still has a lot of simplicity in it. Piplup and Chimchar were both very simple, as was Shinx, Pachirisu, Drifloon, Buneary, and a whole host of others. Honestly, I thought that Gen IV had much better pokemon than Gen III. I became interested after seeing Piplup, Chimchar, and Turtwig on a McDonald's ad in Japan. I hadn't been interested in pokemon in years. So I thought that was something.

hayner225 June 4th, 2010 11:54 AM

The creators are losing their creativity. I agree. The pokemon are looking more like fanmon.... come to think of it, the fan made pokemon look even better. They should make a contest where everyone makes their own pokemon and some get picked for the game.

empty streets June 4th, 2010 12:02 PM

I also agree that the pokemon are getting uglier. I liked the 2nd, 3rd generations and some pokemon from the 4th. I won't judge the 5th gen yet, but the starters do bug me.

Mew~ June 4th, 2010 12:59 PM

What happened to the old simple Pokemon?

Let me see... They got better LOL More better looking powerfuler and less like normal animals! What pokemon should look like! :D

LethalTexture June 4th, 2010 1:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hayner225 (Post 5853591)
The creators are losing their creativity. I agree. The pokemon are looking more like fanmon.... come to think of it, the fan made pokemon look even better. They should make a contest where everyone makes their own pokemon and some get picked for the game.

Oxymoron alert right there. They're losing their creativity by making more vibrant and detailed designs?

moon June 4th, 2010 1:12 PM

The thing I'm the most bitter about, is the legendaries.

Nothing wrong with them becoming plusiers numbers for each new gen, but they all look like robots now. Or wierd dolls. I liked Lugia and Ho-oh, they still had faces! And Mew and Mewtwo were a bit mysterious. I can stand some of the newer ones, like.... hm... Giratina. It's ok, especially in it's other shape. But the gen III legendaries can just go back home and stay there.

But meh. This is just me rambling like I've done in methinks many threads like this before.

I believe it's about how you feel about the games. We oldies who played the first ones when we were young and discovered pokémon, most of us (I assume) like gen I and II better. I think I've heard many of those who started playing pokémon when later generations were about thinks that they don't look too bad. And many of those who still do think gen I and II looks better, probably gets pepped up to think so by the oldies.
Maybe.

BleuVII June 4th, 2010 2:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Red's Hawt Chibi Pelippers (Post 5853776)
We oldies who played the first ones when we were young and discovered pokémon, most of us (I assume) like gen I and II better. I think I've heard many of those who started playing pokémon when later generations were about thinks that they don't look too bad. And many of those who still do think gen I and II looks better, probably gets pepped up to think so by the oldies.
Maybe.

Well, I'd guess so in some cases, but I would definitely be the exception to the rule. I played Gen I and didn't think that a lot of the pokemon looked very good. I felt like the creators were just running out of ideas when they passed the likes of Farfetch'd, Lickitung, Doduo, Dodrio, and some others. When Gen II came out, I took a look at the pokemon that had been highly publicized--the starters, Marill, Donphan, Ho-Oh, and Lugia--and thought that they all looked hideous. With the exception of Donphan, I still feel the same way. That made me skip Gen II entirely. Gen III came out, and one look at Treeko, Torchic, and Mudkip made me think that it wasn't for me. Looking at some of the other designs from Gen III, I think it was a wise choice. As I said before, it was when I was in a Japanese McDonald's that I first saw Gen IV pokemon, and it re-kindled my interest because I thought the designs were so good.

Numbers June 4th, 2010 2:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiny Shaymin (Post 5849444)
^ Excactly. First and second gens were fine, in the the third it started to get a little weird… but Diamond and Pearl just killed Pokémon. I really hate how complicated the new legendaries are, and even the starters are a bit too detailed.



Same here. Around the same time Pokémon came out, things like Yugioh and Digimon came out too… and they just seemed to “fancy” to me, so I went with Pokemon. I really hope the other Pokémon don’t get as over complicated as Digimon. It’ll really ruin it.

But you have the new starters as your Avatar and in your sig? lol xD
I agree though, I like the older stuff, it's more simple and better. But at the same time we better get used to change. Plus it's always interesting to see new things they come up with.

Spinosaurus June 4th, 2010 2:28 PM

Awesome, ugly, pretty, cute, disguting.
I don't care what would these Pokémon look like, I just pick my favorites and play.

I prefer ugly Pokémon over cute Pokémon anyways. :P

dieter57 June 4th, 2010 3:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Choy95 (Post 5851972)
I miss blue version :( and the yellow version cause pikachu follows u around

get a pikachu and walk around in kanto in SS/HG.
same thing.

kw2tsg1 June 4th, 2010 3:18 PM

The originals were great. I'm pretty sure everyone can agree on that in some shape or form. The newer gens are getting a bit fancy/crazy looking but it is interesting as to what they come up with.

batmon June 4th, 2010 3:29 PM

I'm sure if the generations were reversed, people would think that Gen I is too simplistic and not creative. Every gen has horrible pokemon, take your nostalgia goggles off and judge fairly.

Volroc June 4th, 2010 4:34 PM

i think they should balance out old classic design with new designs XD

i love ZeKrom (i capitalize the K to remember the correct pronuniaction lol)
i tihnk hes the most badass jet lookin dragon yet :3

dieter57 June 4th, 2010 4:39 PM

isn't he they only jet lookin dragon yet? derp.
and i agree.
balance the designs just a little bit.

shot571 June 4th, 2010 4:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 5853991)
Awesome, ugly, pretty, cute, disguting.
I don't care what would these Pokémon look like, I just pick my favorites and play.

I prefer ugly Pokémon over cute Pokémon anyways. :P

Lol I thought you were talking about Numbers's sig.I was just like What is he on about. :p
I like the legendaries and the starters are ok. grass and fire are ok. water though sucks imo. I reckon they are making them slightly more detailed to stop people comparing pokemon. e.g. bidoof + piplup = new starter. Plus now they can do more with the fames now since they have better technology. I agree they don't have that 'original' pokemon feel but they are pokemon none the less. Pretty good ones imo.

BleuVII June 4th, 2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 5854227)
i love ZeKrom (i capitalize the K to remember the correct pronuniaction lol)

Not quite there Volroc.:cheeky: Japanese can't do consonant blends like "Kr", since all consonants (with the exception of 'n') must be followed by a vowel. So the Japanese is Zekuromu, which could be better romanized as Zek'rom.

Nikorasu June 4th, 2010 10:39 PM

UGH i hate the new generations. Everything is bad about them, their pokemon, storylines, how many ****ing legendaries they have to have. :\

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Gf D/P/Pt

DarkPrince304 June 4th, 2010 10:48 PM

If the people say Pokemon isn't like the way it was before then I blame the anime for it.
The Pokemon games are just getting Better and Better.
These games are gonna be the best Pokemon Games.
These are packed up with loads of new features.
Well they are making new Pokemon. Of course they'll use new designs. It can't get any simpler.
It's creativity people. I personally want the Pokemon to look more deadly :P
I guess Zoroark can own some handful of old Pokemon.
Just look at him he must be fast! :)

Timbjerr June 4th, 2010 11:00 PM

I dunno, it might be the fact that I'm a fair bit older than others who have been in the series since the beginning (I'm currently 23, and started playing Pokemon when it came out when I was 11), but Pokemon games don't hold as much nostalgic factor to me as things from my earlier childhood (Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, Disney movies back when they were good...), so nostalgia doesn't really impede me when I judge a pokemon's design objectively. I see Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Treecko, Turtwig, and Tsutaaja as fairly equal in stylistic design when I compare them. =/

Ninja Caterpie June 4th, 2010 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hayner225 (Post 5853591)
The creators are losing their creativity. I agree. The pokemon are looking more like fanmon.... come to think of it, the fan made pokemon look even better. They should make a contest where everyone makes their own pokemon and some get picked for the game.

Right, of course, because three magnets stuck together is so much more creative than a starship-like machine with magnet "guns". And, of course, a brown bird is more creative than a flowery hedgehog. Cool story, bro.

moon June 5th, 2010 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BleuVII (Post 5853961)
Well, I'd guess so in some cases, but I would definitely be the exception to the rule. I played Gen I and didn't think that a lot of the pokemon looked very good. I felt like the creators were just running out of ideas when they passed the likes of Farfetch'd, Lickitung, Doduo, Dodrio, and some others. When Gen II came out, I took a look at the pokemon that had been highly publicized--the starters, Marill, Donphan, Ho-Oh, and Lugia--and thought that they all looked hideous. With the exception of Donphan, I still feel the same way. That made me skip Gen II entirely. Gen III came out, and one look at Treeko, Torchic, and Mudkip made me think that it wasn't for me. Looking at some of the other designs from Gen III, I think it was a wise choice. As I said before, it was when I was in a Japanese McDonald's that I first saw Gen IV pokemon, and it re-kindled my interest because I thought the designs were so good.

That's cool :) there sure are many different people playing pokémon. Probably good that gamefreak can make everybody happy in some way.

I'm more for the cute pokémon... naturally my favourite gen is II, with Flaaffy, Chikorita, Jumpluff, Marill and the likes :p

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Originally Posted by Nikorasu (Post 5854892)

Now now. I think the storylines get more and more interesting. Johto and Kanto didn't have much of it, Hoenn was epic (for a pokémon game) and I haven't played through Sinnoh but it seems even better.
But this thread wasn't about the storylines.

And that comic is win.

A Pixy June 5th, 2010 4:47 AM

You call it simple, I call it lazy.

That, and the 4th Gen near the 2nd Gen in terms of gameplay.

You know, where it matters.

zNickhs June 5th, 2010 5:24 AM

Agree ;/

The old pokemons were more... cutie *0*

Diglett June 5th, 2010 6:01 AM

They're looking more and more ridiculous every generation, and they're being over-powered. That's why I stopped playing Yu-Gi-Oh because of the over-powering of the cards.

Adley June 5th, 2010 6:05 AM

What do you expect? With the technology available to add more details, why shouldn't GF use them? I will admit they look a little.... strange, but I thought the same about GenIV and now its my second favorite gen.


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