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SgtPatches June 6th, 2010 6:31 PM

WTFalkner
 
Anyone notice how lame Falkner's team is in Gen II and in the remakes?

You'd think for a flying-type gym leader he'd make use of the plethora of flying types in Johto .

Spearow, Skarmory, Murkrow, Hoothoot, Doduo, Natu; they're all available to his use, and he sticks with the Pidgey family. A little variety would make that first gym battle so much more entertaining.

Good thing he has a better-developed rematch team.

Teh Blazer June 6th, 2010 6:38 PM

Your thread's Title is just pure win...

But you're right, Falkner is stupid. Maybe he was dropped as a kid? Or he just loves Pidgey?

DXrobots June 6th, 2010 8:14 PM

yeah for a guy who loves flying pokemon he's not representing them very well

ACE9 June 6th, 2010 8:41 PM

I kinda agree, but most people would get destroyed if they had to face a Skarmory, Murkrow, or Natu for the first gym badge.

emoxy June 6th, 2010 9:41 PM

I think it's because you haven't seen those Pokemon yet; but the fact that galactics in DPPt can have underlevelled Skuntanks and Puruglys means Falkner should have maybe a Noctowl or something.

I think they should've put more thought into changing some Pokemons of trainers and leaders in the remake.

Flyboy June 6th, 2010 10:04 PM

Maybe he is allergic to change.

Andrew McKenzie June 6th, 2010 10:19 PM

Or maybe he's too proud of his Father's Pokemon to let them go?

Pokefreak9014 June 6th, 2010 10:25 PM

I think tat he should not change his pokemon because for his team it is a pretty easy first badge to gain but for the 2nd onwards they should make it harder.

Rengoku June 6th, 2010 10:38 PM

I guessed they wanted to keep the tradition.

xshadowblitzx June 7th, 2010 12:36 AM

well falkner's pokémon setup isn't that great but it makes for a great introduction to gym battles on that game.

banngr June 7th, 2010 3:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoxy (Post 5860534)
I think it's because you haven't seen those Pokemon yet.

I'd say that is the reason. You don't come across some of those other pokes that were mentioned until much later in the game...apart from the pokewalker :P

Aggressor June 7th, 2010 3:51 AM

Pidgey is a legendary though.... But serious, yeah it's pathetic.

Ronin June 7th, 2010 4:42 AM

Makes sense to me since he's the first gym and isn't suppose to be to hard, also it is nice to see pidgey and evo's get some air time[/bad pun] as they are awesome legends of pokemon imo. Now I'd just like Raticate get some respect from a Gym leader ;)

Pearlone June 7th, 2010 5:06 AM

This generation's Falkner is way stronger than the 2nd gen Falkner,
2nd Gen Falkner: Lv7 Pidgey, Lv9 Pidgeotto
4th Gen Falkner: Lv9 Pidgey, Lv13 Pidgeotto (there's ur underleveled evo)

Swift! June 7th, 2010 6:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banngr (Post 5861026)
I'd say that is the reason. You don't come across some of those other pokes that were mentioned until much later in the game...apart from the pokewalker :P

I don't think that is the case. Brock had both a Geodude and an Onix, two Pokemon that you wouldn't have seen yet. Sure, Geodude can be found in Mt. Moon, but Onix doesn't show up until Rock Tunnel much later on.

I don't know why they chose to give him only a Pidgey and a Pidgeotto in the originals, they could have at least replaced the Pidgey with a Hoothoot. Then again, a couple of the monks in Sprout Tower had Hoothoot, so that may be why they didn't want to give one to Falkner.

I can't really blame them for that, but in the remakes they definitely should have switched up his team a bit. I don't think a low level Skarmory would have caused too many problems for beginner trainers. I also would have liked them to give Bugsy a Spinarak/Ledyba or even a Pineco, Morty a Misdreavus and Chuck a Hitmontop.

Still, what's done is done, and both the originals and the remakes are great games. :)

EmpoleonRider June 7th, 2010 6:22 AM

WTFalkner XD win yeah hes pathetic I beated him with my eyes closed (wich is a lie cuz i couldnt see what move i was using :P)

DarkSlayer1331 June 7th, 2010 7:31 AM

Yes, it's kind of pathetic. I also think that having a Skarmory or Natu would have been good. Probably Natu more, because being part Steel, Skarmory would be too difficult most likely unless you got a Cyndaquil for your starter... oh no, you can catch Geodude on that one route. So maybe it wouldn't be too difficult.

Numbers June 7th, 2010 9:30 AM

It is pathetic. I always said he should have had a lv. 10 Hoot-hoot and a lv. 14 Pidgeotto. (which means they'd have to raise the other Gym leaders levels but that's another thread)

Okami Chi June 7th, 2010 9:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SgtPatches (Post 5860045)
Anyone notice how lame Falkner's team is in Gen II and in the remakes?

You'd think for a flying-type gym leader he'd make use of the plethora of flying types in Johto .

Spearow, Skarmory, Murkrow, Hoothoot, Doduo, Natu; they're all available to his use, and he sticks with the Pidgey family. A little variety would make that first gym battle so much more entertaining.

Good thing he has a better-developed rematch team.

Not even adding that he was way too easy. OH NOEZ!!! IT'S GUST!!! Oh wait I'm level 15-20 for all my Pokemon...too easy.

UraharaSteph June 7th, 2010 9:46 AM

I don't mind him. I like him and his team for the first gym, it's nice. Plus it gives a traditional feel to his gym, and you can tell he is a man of Tradition. He wears traditional clothes, has his dad's pokémon, steps up to fill his dad's place ect.... So I like it.

Although, if we should be saying anyone is pathetic then we should direct it to Falkner's dad, since he's the one who selected the pokémon in the first place :P

Nikorasu June 7th, 2010 9:52 AM

I alctually found him quite hard first time i fought him ;P

DarkSlayer1331 June 7th, 2010 10:14 AM

And now that I'm thinking about it... if these were his dad's Pokemon, and he took over for his dad... why are they only at Level 9 and 13? It would seem to me that he should be a gym to be fought much later on with Pokemon in the 40's+. Does anyone else see where I'm coming from?

redsaber5859 June 7th, 2010 1:24 PM

ya, but his rematch is hell, course my 4 shinies killed him, magneton, gyrados, flygon, toxicroak

Starling008 June 7th, 2010 3:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACE9 (Post 5860380)
I kinda agree, but most people would get destroyed if they had to face a Skarmory, Murkrow, or Natu for the first gym badge.

Thats true. He has beginning-type Pokemon because he is at the beginning of the game.

Catchy title by the way.

riddleraven June 7th, 2010 7:07 PM

Title Win. Falkner Fail. You're right, he should've had better pokemon even if he has to take it easy on the newbs. The developers of this game were way too lazy about this kind of stuff.


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