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Team Rocket as Black and White Evil Team??
Three years later, one Team Rocket operative returned to Kanto to steal a critical part from its Power Plant. Since only this member was involved in this plot, it is likely that he had no knowledge of Team Rocket's prior second disbandment and was working independently. Curiously enough, in HeartGold and SoulSilver, he mentions that he will return to his home country and rebuild Team Rocket anew, something that he did not say in the original games. Team Rocket has not been seen since, but this Grunts's added dialogue in the more recent remakes may hint that Game Freak is not yet finished with Team Rocket's schemes.
[from "Bulbapedia"] Is it possible that "his home country" is Isshu?? Motivation: in HG and SS there is an item that open an event whit Black and White (I don't remember the name :P), so it is possible that Gamefreak has anticipate, in addition to this obiect, the refoundation od TeamRocket in Isshu. Actually we don't know what really append to TeamRocket, Giovanni or someone else after Johto events, so I think it is really possible. So we're going to have a rebuilt of TeamRocket in Black and White...I think this would be a super-idea! What do you think? Are you agree? |
I agree
the rocket does admit to going to home country and re-building the team But he could mean something else but i would be good to see them again They should get new uniform |
Good Idea but i think there was already a thread about this
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please no more team rocket... please be original and create a new team!
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I like it.
But this time, I hope it's just the ONE team. I couldn't see another team AND Team Rocket. And why are there always two teams now? ~_~ I dont like it. And Maybe Team Rocket won't have EVERYTHING to do with the legendary? It got annoying and I like how TR was in the older games. Just wreaking havoc and doing bad **** instead of getting legendaries. |
sorry if there just a post :P
new uniform...great idea (y) |
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i dont think so. They act like this game is going to be totally new, and having team rocket would be to similar to gen1 and 2. mabye they want you to think its going to be team rocket to surprise you with another team.
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Smart thinking there Red. Seems logical , but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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They're such attention hogs that they need to be in 3 games?
I beseech you Nintendo, please don't make Team Rocket come back again. It is entirely possible that he could be talking about Isshu, but remember that Pokemon is supposed to take place in the real world. He could be talking about any place in the world. |
How many times are we going to have to let Team Rocket come back only to be defeated again? :P
Good idea, though I have another, there could be no team in Isshu (at first). If Rocket is brought back why not include another team (maybe Galactic?) The point can be since yin/yang are forces that are interconnected/dependent on one another in the world Team Rocket & other teams, coming together to form sort of a coalition-team, are the outside force trying to disrupt this yin/yang story of ours (it would work well if Isshu had its modern/natural world connected in a way that didn't harm either). I don't know how I can explain any further but it basically goes along the lines of: 1) Being ran out of their respective regions some members of the old teams run to Isshu (assuming that Hiun definitely is a port city they could come in through it).. 2) They form a coalition and come up with a new name, uniforms, etc. so that no one will recognize them 3) Learning of how Isshu is interconnected and also about the legends (I assume) they seek out to destroy this balance and use it to their advantage. 4) Their actions reak havoc across the region, possibly forcing some rift between the people of Isshu. (You know, you don't know who is apart of the team, just gossip basically) Maybe my idea sounds dumb >_<...but if Team Rocket is going to be back then IMHO they should have a plan somewhat like this. |
I'm thinking they will have two teams, like in Ruby and Sapphire, since it's yin/yang yes. But I'd like the idea of TR coming back, more :)
Maybe two new branches of TR? |
I would cry if I have to fight Team Rocket again. We already had them in every generation, I think its time to lay them to rest. And besides this is the rebirth of pokemon. I dont think we will see the rockets again.
Now if Silver shows up in the games, well thats a different story :p |
Team Rockets color scheme goes well with this generation too, and the guys standing near the dock in one of those screenshots looks a lot like a Rocket grunt... but I was kinda looking forward to a new organization.
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No evil team will ever surpass Team Rocket.
Having Team Rocket in the new games would be wonderful. |
Team Rocket and their leader, Giovanni is the best villainous team in the game. Team Magma&Aqua grunt is okay, but their leader and their cause are forgettable . Teaem Galactic Leader is equal to Giovanni in term of awesomeness, but their grunt is horrible. We should give them a chance since Team Rocket executives that appear in HG/SS have very little appearance. A new doesn't really necessary, especially team Rocket is supposed to be a big crime syndicate.
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Team Rocket is by far the best of the evil organizations and Geovanni is one of the best, if not the best, Pokémon character. I'll love seeing them as a multi-regional organization than just a Kanto-Johto one. And in the region history we would not wipe out them (dah, it's just pokémon fights) but just destroy their immediate plains.
hmm... now I'm imagining the story of a region centered about the fact the Team Rocket controls it and therefore we'll play in a mafia-like controlled region. Sweet. |
i HATE team rocket. i really do.
my prediction is team yin and team yang. each has ideas to concur the world and make it a better place in their own vision. your mission is to capture the legendary pokemon before they can use it to make the world entirely technological or send the entier human race back to the stone age! the fate of isshu rest in your hands! |
Team Rocket=B.A.
Team Galatica= Total and utter LAMENESS! |
Here's how I think it should be, though I bet people will disagree. Have Team Rocket come back, but half way through the game, have them taken out by another evil team who turns out to be the real main threat. Of course, there would be mentions of this new evil team, as well as maybe a battle before taking out Team Rocket.
That, in my opinion, would be pretty cool. |
i think so and i have a little thing that may say somthing. in HGSS there is a celebii event where celebii takes you 3 years in the future and you battle giovani. in this you cant check the map. could this mean your in a different area like the black and white place?
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when you battle Giovanni you are in a small cavern under neath the tohjo falls. |
I personally would love to see the Rockets in Black and White, and I think your idea about the guy rebuilding the team could be highly possible.
Oh, and heres an idea for all your Rocket haters. Maybe the grunt could go to Isshu, and start a brand new team, but if you played HG/SS you would still reconize his crazy accent, and maybe he could mention Johto to you in some way...exciting! ;) |
Hopefully it's Team Rocket and not another retarded, kiddie costume-wearing band of cultists who are trying to harness some legendary Pokemon's power to rebuild the universe...or something preachy like that. >.>
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Team Rocket is done, that's it end of story, unless these games take place way in the future, and Isshu is in the Russian? part of the PokeEarth, becuase that one Grunt from Cerulean in HGSS did say he would try and bring TR back in his Homecountry, but judging by the 2 dragons, were gonna see ANOTHER R/S/E plotline...
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I don't want to see something re-done.
I'm going to pick up on an idea that my friend told me. White Team - They are obsessed with order, and want everything in balance Black Team - They are obsessive with chaos, and want everything out of control. I know the duel team thing is looked down upon, but this feels like a good idea. Even if it does bring up the idea of the team being over powered, and close to taking over the world! |
I've gotten the opportunity to defeat Team Rocket in every generation now. Probably just once, would I like not to have to do it again. :\ I don't mind maybe hearing a small reference to Team Rocket somewhere, but beyond that, no thank you. I'm really leaning more to having two evil organizations going for two different things - possibly involving the likes of ying vs. yang, light vs. dark, or a relation to bad luck.
Isshu Region so far has been incorporating a link to the sky, so possibly a plot may revolve around the sky. Eternal light or eternal darkness anyone? Which again, probably hints to having two evil organizations like in the 3rd Gen. I don't see Team Rocket making a return in this game though. |
Team Rocket are main villain in the games, just take it rocket hater. I better see Petrel, ariana, Archer, and Proton rather than so called criminal wearing retarded costume that trying to recreate universe, terraform a land, or maybe control the sky. Until now, Team Rocket cause to do criminal activities are the one that very make sense just as a criminal organization in the real world. They have underground and secret headquarter. Why the hate? tired seeing the same team all over again? I'm tired seeing a villainous team that trying to Play God. Really, can they have much more sense goal to achieve? like taking over Pokemon League or something not trying to Play God?
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that is so awesome i have wanted team rocket to return. i noticed that line but it was before the new games were announced so i didnt really think much about it and i forgot about it until just now *crosses fingers* please let team rocket return.
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It'd make sense. That grunt was stealing part of a machine, right? From what we've seen so far, Isshu seems to be quite a technologic place, with electricity and stuff.
Anyone think same? |
Now you two mention it, make me think that the return of team Rocket is most possible. If that happen though, i feel sorry for them to lose to a kid again for the third time.
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this makes sense since it says it all..but probably Game Freak will put Team Rocket in another version...idk
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I gotta admit, the new teams suck but if all 4 teams apeared in Isshu, that would be swell. Also, silver being the leader is a good idea.
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I remember mentioning about that guy who said he was gonna rebuild team rocket in another thread just like this... :\ Well yeah, I have a feeling its team rocket!
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yeah, i really dont like team galactic. team magma and aqua were a little less worse, as i really like magma's leader, but still not as good a team rocket. there were the best.
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Well, I may sound crazy when I say this, but Team Rocket should reappear. I rather miss them. Messing around with magma/aqua got rather annoying, and Galactic's ideas just didn't makes much sense in the end. We need another team that tries to take over the world. I understand it's pokemon, and it can't get too serious or anything, but it shouldn't be a joke. I'm sure they can do better than that.
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We will not know until the next CoroCoro is leaked, which will probably be tomorrow morning or friday, if not, and nothing is revealed but the legendaries (which I bet will be the only "new Pokemon" in the issue and no others revealed), we will have to wait until next months issue
Either way, would'nt all the members have that silly accent, no, everyone in the region would sound like it, making the game seem like an import from some country in Europe with an unprenouncable name like "Dfasfldorf" or something like that...... Quote:
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Call me an enthusiast for the old or rather, nostalgic; but I would rather see Team Rocket (With Silver in command) in Black and White than see a new team. I only say Silver, because Giovanni "committed suicide" in HG/SS right or so it was assumed....
Besides the man did say in his home country "far far away" right? I believe we've established that Isshu is an immense amount of distance from the other regions....;) |
It would be cool if they brought Team Rocket back. For some reason a group of people that steal or capture, then sell, rare and strong Pokémon seems to make the story more interesting rather than a group that want to recreate the world or attempting to expand landmass or the amount of water in the world.
I'm a sucker for nostalgia so bringing Team Rocket back seems like an awesome idea, sadly I don't think it'll happen though. =\ |
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please, no more team rocket...
two teams please like in R/S/E |
I don't care if it's called Team Rocket or Team Sea-slug or Team Tyler's Van. I want intelligent gangsters with realistic goals, goals that could still be achieved regardless of whether or not I and millions like me interfere in their business. Team Rocket only failed at Silph Corp when they decided that it was the one thing they had to succeed in, and even then it wasn't disbanded until you ousted Giovanni as the leader of both Team Rocket AND Viridian Gym. None of this chasing legends like in Generations 3 and 4. None of this Artificial Evolution Induction crap like in Generation 2. Team Rocket was a mafia, dangit, and I want to see the criminal element act like one for once!
TL;DR: I want the criminal subplot of 5th Gen to feel like it was taken from the Pokemon manga. You know, the one where the Elite Four are in bed with Team Rocket. |
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If Team Rocket returns for Gen. V, I'd be disappointed. This is a brand-new region, so I was hoping for a new organization as well.
Team Rocket can always be a sub-plot. The idea of Team Rocket in the Isshu region is not such a bad idea, but them as the main organization is not really good either. |
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I kow its a pokemon game but doese the teams plot have to involve pokemon pokemon and more pokemon. Lets make it realistic maybe have the team going out for the regions political power. I mean you take over the goverment you can do anything you want. Maybe the main character can be a villain in that sense, after you become champion have the team infiltrate the goverment, declare you and your peers enemy of the state. It will be interesting, having lookers police team coming for you only to be a little afraid..why? Because your the champ. Better yet lets have everybody think your bad and the can be a reason for rematches for gym leaders , i mean you see a wanted trainer in your city who are you gonna call? no not ghost busters, but your gym leader. |
So i have to have 15 posts before i can link to other sites
So yea im doing that but saying that no more evil teams please :l |
What about evil elite 4...like in the manga..that will be interesting !
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We'll never know until the teams are leaked. He looks like a foreigner, so his country might be outside the Pokémon Japan, since all the regions speak the same Japanese language, but he is wierd. And the country is Japan, Isshu (based on Honshu, presumably) is a part of Japan unless they really count Isshu based on an area in Russia, now It'd make sense to bring back Team Rocket. But, as of now, until we see Isshu's map at least and see its relations to both Russia and Honshu, we can expect Rockets or not. We cannot be sure bothways. The grunt also may go to the Honshu-based Isshu with his crazy accent and all, and recreate Team Rocket or create a new team, as Lady Gaga speculated in her post. However, our best bet if we want him to return is for Isshu to be based on Russia. Time Stamp- 10:35 UTC 6\10\2010 (MM\DD\YYYY) |
I disagree, the theme songs of the teams are always epic win, and I don't want to risk hearing the same song all over again, I want a new badass tune for a new team. What I would like to see is two teams cooperating with each other in a game, like, who knows, team magma getting help from team galactic to change space so there could be more land. Just an Idea.
But I won't be killing my brain thinking about it, I'm sure nintendo will give us a very pleasant suprise like they always do. |
Oh god, please no.
I've had enough of Team Rattata/Zubat for a loooong time. If they are in B/W, there's an even lower chance of me buying it. I'm already considering not buying it because of the horrible view system. :S I wish they could be more original. |
RE: Team Rattata/Zubat/ComMons - Absolutely stupid for this to happen. How do you expect to take over [INSERT MILITARY/INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX HERE] that's most definitely going to be extremely well-armed... if all you've got are BB-Guns and Blank Rounds? Likewise, you don't throw your entire force at one target, you keep a large portion in reserve in case some lone renegade decides to go all Rambo on your operation and blow it up in a ridiculously over-the-top manner.
An example of what I would like to see in a Criminal Team in a pokemon game is the criminal rival entry I made for Maci12's Create-A-League. For those not interested in one example, let me give you some others.
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They have to put team rocket !! They are a lot more famous !! They are better than everybody !!!!
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team rocket ?!...no way ...they've been in 11 games !!!...while others have been in only 3...seriously we need a new team
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Team rocket might once again be rebuilt in Isshu region... besides Isshu region is faraway from the 4 other regions purfect for recreating them.... I hope giovanni would be back... and also Blue should return as a commander of team rocket.....
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How about a team of scientists who control a bunch of pokemon and use them as grunts instead of normal grunts. So you battle the pokemon and maybe they could be in packs or something. lol na scratch that, that idea sucks. i prefer the one with the evil e4. so instead of battling the league you could be somewhere else and battling the e4 members as the teams leaders in places like a forest. hard to explain :s. but you would be battling the e4 and the team members at the same time if that makes sense. then after you have beaten them the champion comes and congratulates you and tells you that she/he would love to battle you. so you have a battle in forest. ok maybe that ideas bad as well but its hard to explain. i can think of it but not explain it. Plus the thing i dont like about the e4 is the damn building. so boring.
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Um, no. Blue's the leader of Viridian Gym, he's got responsibilities in Kanto. Besides, he may have been a stuck-up jerk, but he's no villain.
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Its a pretty good idea. I'd like to see it happen.
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Yeah...i always liked the evil gym leaders and elite fours in pokemon adventures...It will be kinda fun if they do something like that
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WHen did we start talking about the Pokemon Special Elite Four, yeah, they were kinda like the Akatsuki of Pokemon, except they did not want a Ninetales.......
Either way, if Team Rocket were to come back in B/W, they would be under a new leader, not this executive crap like in Gen 2, but a new, full fledged mastermind that wishes to use the legendaries to rule the world (hmm, sounds more like the other evil teams to me) |
The rumored team is Team Plasma... which sounds totally lame.
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I would love to see team rocket
Team Aqua "lets control Kyroge and expand the sea" Team Magma "lets get Groudun and expand earth" Team Galactic "lets controll space and time and reshape the universe Team Rocket "lets use top scientiest to work underground and create the most powerfull pokemon ever while we act as a gang and rob people and try to controll kanto and jhoto and not a cult bent on world domination" |
I hope Team Rocket makes a return but is involved more in the Plot. Maybe have an event where you watch them abducting someone's pokemon, in the start and have Team Rocket raising it to be their most powerful pokemon and you have to stop them etc. Just a thought :)
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how about introducing harry potter on pokemon white as the evil team ?xD
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Oh God, please no Team Rocket. I like them and all, but I think we had enough of them for now. I think they should just make a new team. New region, new evil team. Makes sense, right?
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Nah, he was just saying that because he needed to say something as a comeback, that's all.
He was really not the potential Team Rocket reviver, so I don't even see a chance. Besides, I'm pretty sure the new team will be Team Plasma. |
It's a possibility that this could happen, but I think they should be creative and just make a new team. :)
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I don't want to face Team Rocket again. I already see too many Zubats in the caves so I don't want any excess.
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I bet thjere is two teams the main team and then team rockett
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two teams.
yin and yang. and if i'm wrong i will eat a vileplume |
I'd like to see Team Rocket return and just have them be totally re-vamped. Since this is Gen. V they won't have to use Rattatas and Zubats anymore. The Grunts should be stronger and trade in their Rattatas/Raticates and Zubats/Golbats for different, stronger Pokemon--possibly from Gen. V itself. I'm tired of seeing them use the same Pokemon over and over again as well, but I think if they just used a variety of Pokemon, they'd be okay.
I never liked how Geodudes, Machops, Rattatas, etc. always kept appearing no matter what generation you were in. I think in V they should keep these Pokemon to a minimum. I'm not saying NO previous generation Pokemon, but perhaps we can have Sentrets instead of Rattatas or something. I also like the idea of Silver being the leader as well. He seems a good candidate for such a position--although by the end of HG/SS he seemed to be getting a heart towards his Pokemon. Also, what about bringing Jessie and James back? This may be a horrible idea, but I'm still going to say it. I absolutely hate how they've become comic relief in the anime. Perhaps they get tired of being defeated by Invincible Ash and leave for a completely new start in Isshu. With no Ash around they become perhaps second in command to Silver? They were in Yellow and I loved seeing them. They're my favorite characters all around and I'd love to see them be a potential threat rather than the laughing stock they've been reduced to... -.- |
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That would be pretty cool, but for som reason I always thought is Rocket came back, with some rising grunts from Magma and Aqua comes back and try to do there plan, Team Galatics red haired docter escapes from prison, brinsg back the team. That would be like Rocket vs Magma vs Aqua vs Galactic vs You. But if they dont do that and come up with a new team i wish it could be like Team Elite vs Team Gym, A few Elite from Pokemon leagues wants power and world domination, and a few Gym leaders want to be Elites and power OR!! your rival becomes the leader of the next evil team..IDK I wish i had fairy odd parents to make this real. ROFL!
EDIT - OR!!!! They can bring back Jesse and Jame and Meowth as new team leaders or rivals |
No, no Team Rocket please.
They're such attention hogs, they got into Gen. I, II, III, AND IV and since Gen. V is going to be something completely different (I hope) I'd say some other, more AWESOME team. Maybe Team Moon, or Sun, but no Team Rocket please. |
That would STINK if Team Rocket was the evil team in Black and White.
I mean, seriously? New generation, new pokemon, new region, new team plz. We've been Team Rocketed to death already. I understand what you're saying, and you do have a point about the grunt's dialogue in previous games. But I really don't like the whole idea of Team Rocket being the evil team.....AGAIN. Let's get a new one in there and make them cooler and make them a better evil team than Team Rocket. That's what I'd like to see. ^.^ |
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I hope that there's no Team Rocket in B/W I mean really, we just had them in HG/SS! Bring on some new evil team please!
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Like i said i wont mind it if they just have a small role and arnt the majior team and there is anihter major team but id be mad if there the onbly team in B.W
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God I do not want TR again >:( We have had them too much.
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The more i read these comments the more i want to change my mind and agree that i dont want team rockett
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Where was Team Rocket in gen. III? By saying that do you mean Ruby and Sapphire? I don't remember them being in R/S/E...
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It'd be cool that they took the leaders from all the other evil organizations, made them executives and put them under the command of a new, more evil leader.
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I'm pretty sure Team Rocket won't be there like I said before, but I also want to believe that there will be two evil organizations this time around.
But from what it sounds like there might only be one team, maybe Team Plasma, and that's it... |
Well all I have to say now is that no matter who the evil organization is, I pray they're better and cooler than Team Galactic. I thought they were just sad and looked retarded with their green hair and the way it was styled.
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Nice to see you agree But They could use team rocket and they could have a second team going against team rocket |
Dissapointed that this months CoroCoro did not reveal the villian team, we only have 30 days until the next issue leaks......
.....Or at least until the official site updates |
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You know something? If we were going for Yin-Yang symbolism, Team Rocket would be the way to go. Think for a second: Grunt returns to Isshu, rebuilds TR so there's one half of our symbol. Giovanni returns as a good guy (I really think Giovanni should be a good guy if he returns, or at least an anti-villain) with a couple cohorts that found him across the past couple years and sees the state of things, and begins fighting them off and rebuilding TR based off what he wants. And there's the little spot. Also, grunts wear black and executives tend to wear white. Anyhow, It'd be pretty cool, but right now I have a bad case of insufficient data. Moar exposition! |
Well im sure i herd off a source that its team plasma takeing the main villain role in the black and white titles. :)
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Don't they need some rest for causing all that trouble in the past four generations?
Anyway, I had enough of Team Rocket. I beg for a new evil organization. |
Team Yin- We wants the Zekrom!
Team Yang- We needs the Reshiram! It could work people... |
Id hope for no more Team Rocket, Unless they were totally revamped and had different pokemon
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Hmm...
I agree. It could be that Rocket Grunt's Home Country. And he could rebuild T.R. Maybe he's going to rename the team. To like Team Black & Team White. Or Team Dark & Team Light. Or something like that. |
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