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Starling008 June 14th, 2010 6:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Red's Charizard (Post 5862105)
Three years later, one Team Rocket operative returned to Kanto to steal a critical part from its Power Plant. Since only this member was involved in this plot, it is likely that he had no knowledge of Team Rocket's prior second disbandment and was working independently. Curiously enough, in HeartGold and SoulSilver, he mentions that he will return to his home country and rebuild Team Rocket anew, something that he did not say in the original games. Team Rocket has not been seen since, but this Grunts's added dialogue in the more recent remakes may hint that Game Freak is not yet finished with Team Rocket's schemes.
[from "Bulbapedia"]

Is it possible that "his home country" is Isshu??
Motivation: in HG and SS there is an item that open an event whit Black and White (I don't remember the name :P), so it is possible that Gamefreak has anticipate, in addition to this obiect, the refoundation od TeamRocket in Isshu. Actually we don't know what really append to TeamRocket, Giovanni or someone else after Johto events, so I think it is really possible.

So we're going to have a rebuilt of TeamRocket in Black and White...I think this would be a super-idea!

What do you think? Are you agree?

That all seems pretty convincing. I do hope it's Team Rocket- I was not a fan of Team Galactic. Team Magma/Aqua I liked, but Team Galactic was just dumb.

SodeNoZangetsu June 14th, 2010 7:54 PM

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...but Team Galactic was just dumb.
Thank you!!! XD My thoughts exactly...

Dullstar June 14th, 2010 8:07 PM

I think the best idea is to make some team with the same goal as Team Rocket (because Team Magma, Aqua, and Galactic had totally ridiculous plans), and I agree with the idea to make it so no one knows who the members are. However, I don't want the Gym Leaders and Elite 4 members to be evil.

Also, they need to be more involved in the storyline. I wouldn't mind if all the past teams made cameos though, if they can fix the &%*!ing retartedness off Galactic.

bwburke94 June 15th, 2010 11:01 AM

To protect the world from devastation...
To unite all peoples within our nation...
To... OK, I'll stop. Team Rocket deserves to be in B/W.

~Wind~ June 15th, 2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 5878304)
and if i'm wrong i will eat a vileplume

I'm sorry but i shall have to hold you to your word my good man, ; P.
But seriously, Team rocket should not be in these games, and if our wishes come true, this will be the first gen without them!
Unless they do my other thoughts and they dont just remake R/S/E but the whole 3rd gen!
(Meaning FR/LG too)

~Wind

PiPVoda June 15th, 2010 2:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5871466)
The rumored team is Team Plasma... which sounds totally lame.

I like that name..though I wonder what it would have to do with a yin/yang story that we may have. The team's name could be Grey.

Iqid Loopz June 15th, 2010 5:34 PM

I take back what i said anpout bring Rocket, i had bad visions about that and take back what is said about bring back Magma, Aqua and Galaxy

If they dont do that and come up with a new team i wish it could be like Team Elite vs Team Gym, A few Elite from Pokemon leagues wants power and world domination, and a few Gym leaders want to be Elites and power OR!! your rival becomes the leader of the next evil team..IDK I wish i had fairy odd parents to make this real. ROFL!

Or even better they can atkeats put in Jesse, James and Meowth. They have a failed attempt at "bring the rocket to take over this region"

SodeNoZangetsu June 15th, 2010 6:33 PM

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Or even better they can atkeats put in Jesse, James and Meowth. They have a failed attempt at "bring the rocket to take over this region"
I would love to see Jessie, James, and Meowth in another game. Yellow seemed to be pretty much based off the anime, so it would be cool to seem them do something completely different from the anime. Totally new Pokemon could make them completely different--and stronger. They wouldn't even have to be part of Team Rocket anymore since lots of people don't want Team Rocket involved. I think I mentioned this before, they get tired of losing to Ash and leave for a new region. Maybe they try their hand at creating a Team of their own??

Again, they're my fav characters so I'm all for this idea. XD

Waffle-San June 15th, 2010 7:08 PM

Well a crazy (kind of cheesy :P) thought. After his humiliating defeat at the hands of SexyJohtoBoy_2 the foreign Rocket grunt, determined to honour his promise, heads back to Isshu. After years of underground dealings and recruiting the Rocket Grunt begins to rise his very own Team Rocket. Yet as the newly formed Team Rocket begins to grow, there is uprising in the grunts as some feel the Foreign Grunt is not fit to lead such a once highly respected criminal organization. A rebelling ensues as the two loyalties collide until eventually Team Rocket is split into two groups: Team Rocket Black and Team Rocket White. These two warring Rocket organizations are in somewhat of a gang war, fighting for dominance all throughout Isshu, until each prospective leader learns of a greater prize. Zekrom and Reshiram. The two Rocket teams work secretly to awaken/reveal/summon their chosen legendary until they learn of eachothers plans, the race is then on to summon their chosen legend first in hopes of destroying their rivals so a true Team Rocket may immerge and take control of Isshu...that would be, if it wasn't for the interference of MeddlingIsshuKid12!!

The names can be changed to Team Rocket Loyalists and Team Rocket Seppratists...except not lame but the basis is that the original Team Rocket team continues to wear Black and the newly created one wears White to oppose their rival.

The yin/yang is that both organization unknowlingly relies on eachother to exist and in trying to destroy the other organization they end up destroying themselves as well.

My theory. :P

countryemo June 15th, 2010 8:14 PM

no, just no.
nuff said.

Their a little annoying

adoxography June 15th, 2010 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Storm_has_formed (Post 5862131)
please no more team rocket... please be original and create a new team!

Are you serious? Team Rocket is classic!

Johto_legend June 15th, 2010 9:29 PM

all they need to do is make team rocket more bad***. lyk have scenes where they are stealing pokemon or beating up citizens. i maen it make more sense now that they are making it more for older audience since the heroes are older. but anyways i want team rocket to come back. yea weve seen them in every generation, but its not lyk they in all the regions, the 3rd and fourth gen games with team rocket are remakes.
and for those of u whop want silver to be the new leader its highly unlikely since silver even said himself he doesnt want to be lyk giovanni. but then again, maybe silver was refering to the way giovanni left his team and silver would want to rebuild and become a better leader then giovanni was. there are just so many possibilities. but i say i want team rocket to come back and be way more evil and show them stealing and beating people up!!

alextreme June 16th, 2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Omicron (Post 5879692)
It'd be cool that they took the leaders from all the other evil organizations, made them executives and put them under the command of a new, more evil leader.

How can you get more evil than team galactic?They wanted to destroy the the universe to make way for a new one (team multiverse would just caus a heck of a lot of confusion).
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Originally Posted by ~Wind~ (Post 5883716)
I'm sorry but i shall have to hold you to your word my good man, ; P.
But seriously, Team rocket should not be in these games, and if our wishes come true, this will be the first gen without them!
Unless they do my other thoughts and they dont just remake R/S/E but the whole 3rd gen!
(Meaning FR/LG too)

~Wind

*shivers at the thought of having a remake of a remake*

Hybrid Trainer June 16th, 2010 11:32 AM

that is a good point, and it could be true.
Nintendo do seem to put things into the games to keep us long time players happy so this could be it :P

~Wind~ June 16th, 2010 11:48 AM

remakes of remakes would be a pretty bad idea, wouldnt it,plus it means team rocket again and im just bored of those guys now, and to all those who didnt like aqua/magma, maybe you should play RSE agin, saving the world is a lot more fun than being an unliscensed policeman with a cap.
(I always wished they would make another game with red in it, where he does something other than the policeman act, maybe stops mewto destroying everything? 'cause hes so cool, but its not fair he has the worst storyline, ;~; )

Wind

Nikorasu June 16th, 2010 12:30 PM

I want to see teamr ocket somewhere else...

Judging by the names im thinking of more of a Teamt hat wants the world have onlydark, or a team to want only daylight. I don't know.. just guess we'll have to wait and see

SolarAbusoru June 16th, 2010 11:28 PM

I want a new team, Team Rockets had their time.
And besides, since this game is a overhaul, it's obvious there's gonna be a new team.

Insane85 June 17th, 2010 4:45 AM

Hmm, I'd like Team Rocket to definitely be in the games, if only briefly, I'm content with there being an entirely new team, but not all this focus on legendary pokemon, trying to delude themselves that they're doing it for the good of the world. I liked that Team Rocket accepted they were breaking the law, but didn't care.

ChaosNinjat June 17th, 2010 6:52 AM

I can see Team Rocket making a return, most definitely, but it might not be this generation, because I think it'll be a team this time round. Actually, I think they may bring back the two-team concept and have two teams again, like the 3rd gen games, soon as they've got this whole Yin and Yang thing going on. One things for sure, I hope that the teams are badass this time, like a Triad-Yakuza mafia type thing :3.

Ninja Caterpie July 2nd, 2010 8:30 PM

Team Rocket might make a return sometime, but it won't be in Isshu. Black and White are meant to feel new and unlike Pokemon - they're meant to overhaul and change pretty much everything we know about the game. That's not going to happen if an old evil team returned.

Scorpio219 July 3rd, 2010 6:23 AM

mabey they could have team rocket be the yang team since they are already black and someone else (mabey giovani's father/brother) could be the white team this way new team and rocket. u may disagree but it seems like every one on this thread wins

some of u want rocket, some want a yin yang team, some want a new team. ur welcome

possible names srry if it is dumb but it is simmilar to rocket, team missle or something like taht

RivalGator July 3rd, 2010 6:28 AM

Funny thing is, I always liked that 'bye-bye a go-go' grunt. I actually kind of found him sad the first time I ever saw him those many years ago in the original games when he said, "Team Rocket disbanded? What will I do now...?" And just disappeared.

I think that is a wonderful idea! I would love to see that guy come back. I always wondered what his home country was anyway. It'll bug me if he is the only one who speaks like that though. XD

Hibaru July 3rd, 2010 6:51 AM

Team Rocket? I'm not sure if I do say so myself. Cause Poke`Beach said something like Team Plasma would be the Evil Team. They're good enough to me, Hope the costume will have a great design.

Kardashian July 3rd, 2010 10:32 AM

We coud pull an RSE, and have two different evil teams, Team Yin and Team Yang, trying to accomplish different things, and take over the world.

We could pull a RBYGSCFRLG, and have Team Rocket return, and go back to basics.

Or we could pull a DPPt, and have a completely new team with a completely new objective.

Either way we go, we're probably gonna do somethhing with the evil teams we've already done. I say its gonna be like RSE.

JackGamer July 3rd, 2010 11:05 AM

I personally hope that we have two opposing teams again :D

MegaKuriboh July 3rd, 2010 11:11 AM

No, I'm getting sick of Team Rocket I want (a) new team(s)

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Originally Posted by Zeta Dimentio (Post 5862679)
Here's how I think it should be, though I bet people will disagree. Have Team Rocket come back, but half way through the game, have them taken out by another evil team who turns out to be the real main threat. Of course, there would be mentions of this new evil team, as well as maybe a battle before taking out Team Rocket.

That, in my opinion, would be pretty cool.

That, would be cool

Migueliscool July 3rd, 2010 11:29 AM

They should really pull a RSE again.

The two teams against each other.

One fighting for good and the other for evil.

It would be cool if the good one was also a gym leader or maybe one of the elite four!

Doxasikyrie July 3rd, 2010 11:50 AM

It would be interesting to see Team Rocket return to Isshu. There was a suggestion of that in HG/SS with the Celebi event, but then again, evil teams always say they'll return. :P

hever July 3rd, 2010 1:37 PM

Their uniform colors would match nicely with the games' color scheme.

Turnabout July 3rd, 2010 2:03 PM

I'd like to see a fresh new team, I love Team Rocket to bits, but they need a break.
Seeing a few grunts in BW would be cool though.

And yes, two opposing teams would be nice, but everyone here is under the impression that the whole yin/yang thing is good vs. evil and it's not :<
It's about how two seemingly different/opposite forces co-exist and depend on each other.

So one "Evil" team and one "good" team wouldn't work, that's too simple.
Maybe two teams both working towards a similar goal but with very different ways of getting there? I'm not sure...
But it's exciting :>

raekuul July 4th, 2010 7:03 AM

If that's the case, then Yin/Yang has already been done with Magma/Aqua.

Kekeke.... Team Plasma threatens to destroy the world by destroying all that is dark and evil in it. THAT would be a twist worthy of Shyamalan.

Nikorasu July 4th, 2010 7:56 AM

I just really hope they don't do something like P/D/Pt...

that stuff was to head messy :S

I mean with all the space and time shizzle :/

alextreme July 5th, 2010 7:21 AM

my guess is that rocket member will found a completeley new team more evil and stronger than team rocket.

dieter57 July 5th, 2010 6:44 PM

no team rocket!

my idea......

two teams.
team yin: a bunch of crazy naturalists that want to capture Reshiram and use it to send the world back into the dark stone ages and destroy all technology!

team yang: a bunch of crazy technology and industrial people tha want to captur Zekrom and use it to mechanize the world and eliminate all nature!

Calder July 5th, 2010 7:44 PM

We could put the "Team Rocket Taken Out" thing and combine it with "Good Team is Really the Bad team" thing...

You join Team Yinyang to defeat Team Rocket but then Team Yinyang turns out to be the worser evil and you defeat them

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Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 5940639)
no team rocket!

my idea......

two teams.
team yin: a bunch of crazy naturalists that want to capture Reshiram and use it to send the world back into the dark stone ages and destroy all technology!

team yang: a bunch of crazy technology and industrial people tha want to captur Zekrom and use it to mechanize the world and eliminate all nature!

Go back to Hoenn if you want the same thing as Team Aqua and Team Magma again...

redsaber5859 July 5th, 2010 8:31 PM

I wanna see maxi and Archie combine their teams, and fight team rocket! Or galactic! Like, the isshu region would be the greatest battleground evar! You could walk through that isshu desert and see all of the different teams fighting, and it would kinda be like mt. Battle, where you go through TONS of enemies, it would be EPIC

solastalgia July 5th, 2010 8:36 PM

I guess I'm in the minority that would love a Team Rocket return, just with a whole revamp so they use badass Pokemon instead of like, Zubat. Rocket's goals are always a lot more realistic and executable than the other teams who were all like "LET'S CATCH LEGENDARIES HURR DURR". That's what was really nice about Team Rocket, they didn't create lofty ideals and goals, they just wreaked havoc. If they could come back ten times stronger, with changed goals (but still true to TR), dynamic and tough leaders, and better Pokemon... that would be pretty awesome.

solastalgia July 5th, 2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 5940920)
But the thing is, what exactly were Team Rocket's goals other than the capture Pokemon and make money? Any thief organization can do just that, and that's pretty minuscule compared to say Team Galactic or Team Magma/Aqua, going on the scale of actually trying to control legendaries to alter the whole world or existence itself(especially Team Galactic. Cyrus almost achieved his goal until Giratina stepped in). I really don't see TR changing it's ways from stealing Pokemon to going to anything else, and honestly, it's getting quite old, but that's just me.

I dunno, I just found Team Rocket (especially under Giovanni) to be more of a threat than Team Aqua / Magma. Rocket actually did things like the takeover of Silph Co. Aqua and Magma spent the entire game trying to get a legendary, and oh well, they don't get it. Guess you save the day again! It was just a bit of a lame plotline to me. (I can't speak for Team Galactic. I put down Pearl a quarter of the way through because I hated it so much.)

Team Rocket, if tied together with a great plotline and awesome leaders, has a lot more potential. Plus, Team Rocket just feels really nostalgic for me as they were always "the bad guys" growing up. :P They were a part of my childhood and a lot more personal than Team Aqua/Magma to me. I don't think I'll ever get tired of them. :D

Also, the foreign Rocket member was cute. I want him to be someone important if Team Rocket ever comes back, lol. xD

Charizard★ July 6th, 2010 6:53 AM

It would be nice if Team rocket shows up but another team comes up and drives them out. :<

Pokéthan July 13th, 2010 8:52 AM

Team Rocket?
 
Following HG/SS which one Team Rocket grunt had his dialogue changed o include something on the lines of: we will be back - something that was not said originally. Do you think Team Rocket could come back in Isshu, its never been documented before so maybe they could have a new post there?
:)

BeachBoy July 13th, 2010 9:12 AM

We actually have a thread about the Team Rocket theory already, so I'll merge them.

pokewalker July 13th, 2010 9:35 AM

i hope not.
team rocket is boring... XD

Jigglymilk July 13th, 2010 9:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GlitchCity (Post 5862383)
I would cry if I have to fight Team Rocket again. We already had them in every generation, I think its time to lay them to rest. And besides this is the rebirth of pokemon. I dont think we will see the rockets again.

Now if Silver shows up in the games, well thats a different story :p

Wtf are you talking about they were only in gen 1 and 2. They were never even mentoined in gen 3 and 4.

Bloothump July 13th, 2010 11:02 AM

I think 3/5 gens with the same team is a bit monotonous. However, I wouldn't mind some sort of sidequest where you sweep team rocket before they even get their feet on the ground. Like say they're doing petty crimes in a city just starting out.

MistahDude July 13th, 2010 11:16 AM

its starting to seem like there isnt an evil team at all.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 13th, 2010 11:46 AM

Yeah it really seems like we have a lone soldier as the evil team...

Calder July 13th, 2010 11:57 AM

Team PETA is the evil team in this game... xD (If you don't get it see N)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 13th, 2010 12:05 PM

PETA is not evil :P
He's more of an Eco-terrorist...just like Lance was in the Pokemon special manga...

IceFireLighnting July 13th, 2010 12:16 PM

No... No. No! NO! NOOOOOO TEAM ROCKET! THEY SUCK AND THEY'RE DUMB AND THEY SUCK! NO MORE TEAM ROCKET! They've already been in...8 POKEMON GAMES, and in one game (YELLOW) they even had puny little anime Team Rocket. THEY SUCKED WORSE THAN REGULAR TEAM ROCKET.

Just for the record, I never liked Team Galactic either. Or Magma. Or Aqua. Or... Nope, that's it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 13th, 2010 12:22 PM

The teams are all dumb especially the grunts...I think Aqua and Magma were the smartest grunts...

Cobras July 14th, 2010 6:55 AM

Team Rocket Returns In a different way
 
Well for me team rocket was the best evil team it would be no problem to see them again more powerful and finnaly for the first time ever to see an evil team achieve their goals in some way that you can continue your epic quest as a pokemon trainer and the the world will be in chaos forever.This would be amazing.
Come on we need a little bit realism

Or my second idea is to see the return of team rocket and one more REAL evil team.As hero you will gradually annihilate team rocket but the second evil team will fulfil their dreams.

CakeForTheSoul July 14th, 2010 7:02 AM

Im sorry that is very unlikely and If that happen I would have to kill them my self.

MikieJo July 14th, 2010 3:02 PM

I think they would b in 1 game enviromentists and in the other idiots who want to have the land full of technology no forests or anything

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 14th, 2010 3:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MikieJo (Post 5969918)
I think they would b in 1 game enviromentists and in the other idiots who want to have the land full of technology no forests or anything

I think that too. Yeah the tech people only care for themselves...

Haza July 15th, 2010 1:40 AM

In the latest screens on the official website there are mysterious guys in a building, one behind a desk and the other blocking a door. I think they are the evil team but they don't really look like Team Rocket.


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