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gorgono June 10th, 2010 8:37 PM

Honestly, whoever thought of events should be fired
 
I, like many others have bought Platinum..however I bought my copy after all the events took place for ROtom forms, Darkrai, and Shaymin, which means I cannot get them as me being the OT without hacking.

Okay, so maybe the event things makes you do a little work, but whose idea was it to make it a limited time?

Eurydice June 10th, 2010 9:37 PM

i agree. events are really stupid. i mean i can see giving out special pokemon at events but make it so that the pokemon can also be obtained in the game. darkrai is my favorite pokemon and i cant get one because i didnt live anywhere close to where the event was taking place. same with all the other ones. i think that all pokemon should be available in the games, not make you go to gamestop or other stores/places to get them because not everyone has one of the stores close by and also not all stores do the events. the wifi ones arent as bad but still i cant restart my hg or ss without loosing my pokewalker routes.
and i really dont want to hack my games because i feel it takes away from the games.

Christopher June 10th, 2010 9:52 PM

events really don't bother me as I do not care for or like legendaries when I need them for my dex I just trade for them

ChrisTom June 10th, 2010 10:16 PM

I agree with Poster #2. I am sometimes "near" events, but even then. I usually wait about 8-14 months after the game is released before I buy it. Mainly because I'm dirt poor :(

But I did buy HeartGold at it's release, mainly because I am a nostalgia addict and LOVED Pokemon Gold.

But that's getting off topic a bit. The point is they should make all legendary Pokemon available in the games without the addition of a special event. I understand Pokemon that have special movesets (as to be honest, I don't care if Mew doesn't have Beat-Up, Etc,.) but I don't want to have to fly all the way to the New York Pokemon Center just to get a full Pokedex.

MrsNorrington June 11th, 2010 12:09 AM

No, I disagree!! I love events!!!

But they should just make them more accessible for you guys who have trouble getting them. I can agree with that.

But events are AWESOME! We need more events!

cystar June 11th, 2010 1:46 AM

I think once they realese an event it should stay for ever

JackGamer June 13th, 2010 12:00 PM

Events really irrate me. Why do they hate me? D:
I don't live near anywhere to get any event Pokemon. Why can't they just make event-Pokemon incredibly rare. Like, for example, a cave that you can only enter if you have 6 Pokemon at level 100 or something like that? But oh no, if I want Darkrai or any other event Pokemon I have to travel hundred's of miles. Great.

Nikorasu June 13th, 2010 12:12 PM

pokemion firered and leafgreen were worse...
Mew, deoxys, lugia, ho-oh you know the jist.

All events, It made you die to know that there were legendarys there that you had NO chance of getting :(

Amore June 13th, 2010 12:37 PM

I like wi-fi events.

I just wish you downloaded them to your console, instead of the game. Then you could also go over the 3 wonder card limit (I've never reached it, but I don't get it. Do I have to lose a pokewalker route to get Latias??).

If they were downloaded to the console, they could just be programmed so that they can only be activated once per save file, right?

There's nothing wrong with movie events, etc. It makes sense, they only really give the pokemon to some darn dedicated fans. And then a few of those fans clone them and spread them throughout the world to get some other rare pokemon. xD

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty June 13th, 2010 1:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurydice (Post 5870974)
i agree. events are really stupid. i mean i can see giving out special pokemon at events but make it so that the pokemon can also be obtained in the game. darkrai is my favorite pokemon and i cant get one because i didnt live anywhere close to where the event was taking place. same with all the other ones. i think that all pokemon should be available in the games, not make you go to gamestop or other stores/places to get them because not everyone has one of the stores close by and also not all stores do the events. the wifi ones arent as bad but still i cant restart my hg or ss without loosing my pokewalker routes.
and i really dont want to hack my games because i feel it takes away from the games.

I agree. It's shameless profiteering, unfortunately, but that doesn't mean we have to like it. The only Events I can have access to are the ones from the wi-fi connection, and now that that's gone I can't get any of them. It's highly unfair, especially if you need them to complete your PokéDex. :/

Raichu1988 June 13th, 2010 2:49 PM

I don't think it's fair that some events are only for certain countries. I think they should be for everyone, really. I mean, the wifi events aren't so bad at least you don't have to go anywhere to get them. I do think it's kind of stupid to have to go to an actual store or somewhere else, just to get a pokemon onto your game. Especially when not everyone lives that close to said store, or other type of event.

And most of the event pokemon are special or rare, so I don't really think it's all that fair to not distribute them to everyone who owns a pokemon game for their DS. I know people clone them all the time, but I'd kind of like an event pokemon that I got myself (not including that GS Pichu for HG/SS), instead of having to get a clone or hack to complete my pokedex. :/

MrsNorrington June 13th, 2010 3:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Amore (Post 5878844)
I like wi-fi events.

I just wish you downloaded them to your console, instead of the game. Then you could also go over the 3 wonder card limit (I've never reached it, but I don't get it. Do I have to lose a pokewalker route to get Latias??).

If they were downloaded to the console, they could just be programmed so that they can only be activated once per save file, right?

There's nothing wrong with movie events, etc. It makes sense, they only really give the pokemon to some darn dedicated fans. And then a few of those fans clone them and spread them throughout the world to get some other rare pokemon. xD

I did all the events and I had to delete a wonder card in order to get another event on there. You don't loose the event. All you loose is the card. And the cards only purpose is, if you have a japanese version of the game, wonder cards can be transfered to a friends game. They disabled that on American games. You wouldnt loose the event from loosing the card.

CakeForTheSoul June 14th, 2010 8:06 AM

They are there for those who listen,play actively,and who care. Not for them to just be there forever,for everyone to grab one and make that pokemon extremely common in a game.

Tanaki June 14th, 2010 8:09 AM

If they made them more available that would've been nice. With the Darkrai and Shaymin events going on it caught me off guard that the Arceus event was at toys r us. They should just stick with wi-fi and improve the way that it functions. They made a big fuss about being able to get events via wifi and they haven't done much with it. It would be sweet if they incorporated a way to get the events permanently by paying very little to unlock the event on a wii or something, and some people might be opposed to that but it's better than just missing out. Just find a friend with a wii and go over and get your events on. But I can also see that backfiring and nintendo becoming A-holes with the concept and getting much hate for extorting people for event pokemon.

Masterge77 June 14th, 2010 8:23 AM

I especially hate the way Game Freak have come to rely on Events lately. It's not like they're not making enough money as it is. It's probably going to get to the point one day that the game's main Legendaries are ~Event only~.

Events were scarce in the first two generations, but about half way through the third, they just went bonkers with it, now look at the fans, many are mad because Game Freak, or should be renamed to "Event Freak", relies too much on events, I can't even make my Shaymin obtained through walk thru walls turn into sky forme, cause the event Shaymins were fixed to having only those un-nicknameable individuals turn into Sky Forme and all others stay Land Forme FOREVER, cause they do not care about the fans at all, only themselves.......

With this, it has made people almost IMPOSSIBLE to complete their Pokedexes legally

To make things worse, they are making Zorua an event only, despite not being legendary at all, this is dissapointing many fans who live far from events and really want a Zorua, including me, hopefully, this is not true and we can get Zorua ingame, this is probably a Zorua that learns a special move that others of it's kind can't, we can only see when the games come out (hope to God that there is another way to obtain Zorua) Some people don't like Zorua, but for the people that do, this is just awful.......

Nintendo cares nothing about their fans, just look at how they treat the Mother fanbase.....

Kai Yamato June 14th, 2010 8:35 AM

If I remember right, the Azure Flute hasn't been released yet. :/ So, what's going on now? Did they forget about it now that they're promoting HGSS? Looks like it's gonna meet the same fate as the Altering Caves in FR/Lg and Emerald, which was put in the latter for no reason since the event wasn't even held at all.

Sylveon June 14th, 2010 9:39 AM

I always miss events. I mean the only ones I have access to in the UK are when they are giving out pokemon at Toys 'R' Us.. and I don't even think they've done that for ages :|

Myles June 14th, 2010 9:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterge77 (Post 5881039)
I can't even make my Shaymin obtained through walk thru walls turn into sky forme, cause the event Shaymins were fixed to having only those un-nicknameable individuals turn into Sky Forme and all others stay Land Forme FOREVER

The ones obtained in Platinum can be both Sky Forme and nicknamed, but anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterge77 (Post 5881039)
With this, it has made people almost IMPOSSIBLE to complete their Pokedexes legally

It's been like that since the start. Although technically you don't need event Pokemon to complete it anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterge77 (Post 5881039)
Cause they do not care about the fans at all, only themselves.......

I don't think GameFreak really make money from the events. And I doubt that was their reason for creating Mew either.

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Originally Posted by Masterge77 (Post 5881039)
Nintendo cares nothing about their fans, just look at how they treat the Mother fanbase.....

Earthbound bombed whden it was released in English (although it was there own fault), so that is sort of understandable.

Lil MuDkiP849 June 14th, 2010 10:31 AM

i dont mind so much the event pokemon themselves, but i seriously CANNOT STAND IT when they give out event pokemon with unique moves ONLY for that event, example is jirachi with draco meteor, so it's like if you get a bad natured one, oh well you get whatcha get and you dont get upset >=(

NickofTime June 14th, 2010 10:40 AM

Ok events aren't necessary to play pokemon games.
All I'm reading is a bunch of hate on Nintendo.
So what if they made a pokemon exclusive its not their fault that you don't live close to a event location. There are plenty of pokemon not exclusive to events that are extremely powerful.
If nintendo hated their fans they wouldn't even make events...

the arguement just because some kids in U.S. are denied a darkrai that nintendo is a facist coporation bent on world domination is just pathetic. You should be thanking Nintendo that they even give the possibility of event pokemon, and that they update the pokemon games. Seriously they put out a pokemon game almost every 2 years and the fanbase will never be satisfied because its just not enough for some people.

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty June 14th, 2010 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NickofTime (Post 5881386)
Ok events aren't necessary to play pokemon games.
All I'm reading is a bunch of hate on Nintendo.
So what if they made a pokemon exclusive its not their fault that you don't live close to a event location. There are plenty of pokemon not exclusive to events that are extremely powerful.
If nintendo hated their fans they wouldn't even make events...

the arguement just because some kids in U.S. are denied a darkrai that nintendo is a facist coporation bent on world domination is just pathetic. You should be thanking Nintendo that they even give the possibility of event pokemon, and that they update the pokemon games. Seriously they put out a pokemon game almost every 2 years and the fanbase will never be satisfied because its just not enough for some people.

First of all, if you wish to complete your PokéDex (IE, fulfil one of the main goals of every Pokémon game since RBY), you have to have some Event Pokémon, such as Darkrai. They aren't necessary to play the games, but they are necessary to complete them.

Secondly, nobody is saying Nintendo is a Facist corporation. What they're saying is that Nintendo takes advantage of the fact that Pokémon has a large child fanbase, and that some of these kids simply can't access Events thanks to them being too far away/not having Wi-Fi etc. etc. I agree that it's sort-of stupid to get completely bent out of shape by it, but do you remember what it was like when you were a kid and you were heartbroken that you couldn't get something? I do.

Thirdly, if Nintendo liked their fans, they would make Events infinitely more accessible. Thanking them for knowing you're going to miss out on one of their biggest advertising points so far for B/W, or not be able to complete your PokéDex on Platinum? Er, no, sorry, not going to. Saying they love us because they make people shell out extra money when they have already paid for the game is...well, laughable. They use Events as a license to print money: that's not liking your fans, that's milking them. It's like with the Sims 3, where EA gave players a minimum amount of content and then expected them to buy the rest from the Sims store, and made the game damn near unmoddable so that fans had no other choice.

None of the cinemas near me show the Pokémon movies, none of the game shops around me run the Events. Is this Nintendo's fault? Yes, it is. It's poor planning, it's poor marketing, and it's a poor outlook on their fans. I'm sure it's not a such problem in the USA, but then again, the USA > the entire planet. Pokémon have fans elsewhere, and we mostly get shafted.

shookie June 14th, 2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty (Post 5881432)
None of the cinemas near me show the Pokémon movies, none of the game shops around me run the Events. Is this Nintendo's fault? Yes, it is. It's poor planning, it's poor marketing, and it's a poor outlook on their fans. I'm sure it's not a such problem in the USA, but then again, the USA > the entire planet. Pokémon have fans elsewhere, and we mostly get shafted.

Normally I'd disagree with this (mostly the "USA > entire planet" statement) but this is actually a really good point. It's not a matter of people just live in "the wrong area" but entire countries can miss the opportunity of an event. Australia's* had, what, one event? Europe's had 15 including the three that require Pokémon Ranger.
*in before "lol Australia's a continent"

I'm kind of on the fence, though. I like the idea that there are exclusive events that have a small window, it makes them more unique and harder to get. If they were readily available all the time then people would complain about how "so and so" is so easy to get and doesn't require any extra effort, blah blah blah. I don't think it's very fair to people who just plain old can't access the events, though. I know of people who were in Iraq when events were available, so they missed them, and of course there are people in countries who just don't get anything (as I mentioned).
Plus, this is more a personal issue than anything...I don't want to have to buy a ticket to get a movie event Pokémon. It was okay when I was 9 and the first movie was the greatest thing to happen in my short life, but that was 11 years ago. It's kinda creepy if I go to a Pokémon movie by myself now.

Maybe they could do something like the Watt system with the PokeWalker routes? Unlock so many hours or catch so many Pokémon and you get a new event. I dunno :|

shot571 June 14th, 2010 1:08 PM

If events were available to everyone then they wouldnt be rare. I know what everyone is saying since I remember they had planned an event for deoxys on my ruby and i was so happy and then they cancelled it. However if everyone was able to get the event it wouldnt really be special and then people would complain that they have to wait for a certain pokemon.Although I am pretty pissed with japan and america getting all the cool events.

Tsavo June 14th, 2010 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty (Post 5881432)
USA > the entire planet.

In the realm of Pokemon, it will always be Japan > the entire planet (one can argue that is justifiably so). Not aruging that the US doesn't get there fair share either.

On topic, with the exception of obvious marketing ploys (e.g. Movie-exclusives), I don't understand why anything but Wi-Fi is used.

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty June 14th, 2010 2:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shookie (Post 5881756)
Normally I'd disagree with this (mostly the "USA > entire planet" statement) but this is actually a really good point. It's not a matter of people just live in "the wrong area" but entire countries can miss the opportunity of an event. Australia's* had, what, one event? Europe's had 15 including the three that require Pokémon Ranger.
*in before "lol Australia's a continent"

Yeah, that wasn't a dig at America, that was just a Britisher being bitter that in the Pokémon world, my country may as well not exist. It annoys me when some American kid is all "WELL JUST GO AND GET THE EVENT GOD STOP COMPLAINING" as NickofTime was doing, and they don't seem to realise that outside of America and Japan you have a tiny chance of getting an Event at all.

Also, I don't disagree with Events in general, just the ones where you can only get that Pokémon if you see the movie or are able to go to a game shop - Darkrai, Shaymin, and possibly Zorua, for example. It's just a way of blackmailing kids and their parents into seeing it and thus making more money, and seriously shafting anybody who doesn't either live near a city or in more special countries but wants to complete their PokéDex. -.-


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