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^ unfortunately, there are issues. So much so we have an argument on our hands, dammit.
I don't understand why breasts should be covered up, and I think that if they are it raises an insecurity in woman who have them(actually, probably those with low testosterone than those with high levels of it, because they feel more of a man than a woman. Ever wondered why Athletes have small breasts? The weight, and the low testosterone with it.), so if they're told to reveal them in an open area, they will immediately refuse, and then use the government and today's society as a cop-out. But in reality, they feel insecure about showing them because of what most of us have done to tell to cover up because it's bad. If you don't believe, then please answer this: Why is Yellow & Co. making such a big stink about it? Because, it's what they've been taught to say. |
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you will see them having sex. many women find a males chest very sexy. iirc their nipples are sensitive as well. Just sayin o3o womans produces milk for a baby. so she can breastfeed an act that is in no way sexual in nature. eating isn't sexual, i mean, unless you're into that sort of thing n_~ the thread isn't saying women should start prancing around half naked. its just if a girl wanted to take off her top. she could. other countries. even in some states I think, its alowed for a girl to be topless its not like you see boobies around every corner o3o |
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I could replace this argument with a man with a small thing, and it'd be the exact same thing. You act as if boobs are not sexual, which they simply are as dictated by culture. Quote:
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hi i just woke up if i say something absurd that is my excuse
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i've adapted to the idea that breasts are perfectly natural, and i do have a pair myself, and as silly as it sounds i actually DO feel a bit oppressed and inconvenienced. also, i think those who have presented agreeing viewpoints to mine in this thread are contributing to progression in culture. you say culture is constantly changing, but it's in debates like these that people become open to change and make it happen, even if it takes a whole century for change to take place. Quote:
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Just a note, I don't use quotes.
Another one, for those of you asking why the hell am I going along with this load of bullcrap is because I cannot stand to lose at arguments. Physical fighting, fine. Family drama, no problem. But a person with different ideals than mine, which would be fine in any other case, but Yellow is being a bit aggressive her opinions, which I find offensive and just plain rude, and so I am going to do this day and night until this thread is locked, and then I'll take it to VMs/PMs. Just hope she doesn't give up, that'll spoil my adrenaline rush. You call it civilized, remember that. Remember the people who came up with that ideal, remember that those same people who came up with that word also called those "uncivilized" barbarians. Remember, that there are other cultures and people who will tell you exactly what civilized in your terms means, and remember this: We came up with the berating term "Third World Country", a fancy way of saying uncivilized, aka barbarians, and coincidently the same exactly people that are "third world" are the ones who are also not wearing a bra. I can already see where this is going.... |
I know this is off-topic but it should be said:
-First World: A country that was allied with the United States and NATO during the Cold War -Second World: A country that was allied with the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact during the Cold War -Third World: A country that didn't take a side |
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Yeah, but the way I've heard most people say it is berating. Actually, I made a mistake. My bad.(but I never erase them, unless I absolutely hate it)
Y'know, Yellow, a man with a small penis is not the same as breasts.(I think people should be nude if they want, but that's not the point). And please call it a penis. #1, Penis's, in this sense I sort of get, I mean a penis is entirely different situation. In fact, penis's more or less are actually recommended to be covered up, because you wouldn't want your only sex organ/liquid waste remover to be lost, right? #2. A man with a small penis is completely off topic from this. And men can simply enlarge it(I know how, read up on it). #3. Morals and culture? What. the. hell. Yeah, I know full well this is Puritan land, but if you look at other countries, breasts have almost never have been covered. Somewhere along the line, probably a sexist priest, told woman to cover up, cause it'll make men lust for them, possibly rape them. #4. Just realized something. The Bible. Damn, I forgot about that book. Now I understand why woman cover-up, cause God made them into sexual organs, after the whole apple scenario, and that's how we got private parts. Though, only Romans and others followed this, the other people didn't give a flying **** about them til later. Hold on, let me get some things straight... Well, I'm not that. My friends call me a defiant, cause I hate America and the other civilized countries so much. |
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Thanks Twocows. Your points make sense. Cultural paradigms can shift fast. I'm not saying that we are going to see topless women because of a thread here lol, but if indeed society got sick of it's own limiting standards, then I believe this change could become real. Some societal norms are healthy, but I really think this one is an odd concoction (just like our liscense to pollute the earth, force rigid gender roles upon people, etc) Hopefully we eventually evolve to the point where we don't view our own bodies as digusting, or as mechanisms saturated in a sexuality that present inherent danger to societies at large. Thanks again for your intelligent thoughts. |
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I am comfortable speaking this way and would appreciate it if you could resist forcing your views on me. After all, I don't ask you to censor your words. Quote:
No, it's not. They're both private, sexual organs and I hardly think clothes were invented to protect the male's from being...removed? Quote:
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That makes no sense. Furthermore, we are not other countries and don't want to be other countries. We take pride in our culture and don't want anyone else's. Quote:
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I didn't say that's why clothes were invented. I said that's why they were covered up.
I picked up the bible reference because England, Australia, and America are all colonies from the bible, or the Pope for better reference. And Europe also. Look, my brain, my friends, my own fricking mind is telling me to let it go already, it's just some person dammit. So yeah, whatever. If you think woman's breasts should be covered up, fine, whatever. One more thing, if you call a specific thing something else chances are they won't understand you. That's why I asked you to call it a penis, not for my benefit, but for the other people you talk to and call things(not penis')other than what they are usually called, to prevent confusion. So yeah, I'm off to read manga and watch TV. Bye~ |
How are breasts a sex organ? Last I check you cannot impreganate a woman via her breasts. The penis and vagina covered because they are sex organs that are used in human reproduction.
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Ok. Now we're getting offtopic. To be honest, I think we've talked all we can about sex, culture, and boobs. I've been getting complaints about this thread for the past week and to be honest, this thread is getting nowhere and...it's just weird. Sorry, it is. See above post.
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