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myrrhman June 24th, 2010 7:19 PM

Project Alpha Fan: Hoenn chapter
 
Hey Everyone! .Kaiser made us a banner!
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Goal
To create an unbreakable record for fastest completion of Ruby or Sapphire (or emerald, but there are more events). Then, get that record certified by the Guinness Book of World Records: Video Game Edition.

Introduction
ChrisTom found a record in the Guinness Book of World Records: Video Game Edition for Pokemon Blue Version. An Australian boy beat the game in 2:40. Then, after a bit of research, he found the true record holder was someone with the time of 1:59. Since then, a few members of Pokecommunity have been working hard to break that record, and earn Pokecommunity a spot in the record books. However, some people found that they Red and Blue Versions weren't as natural as others, so they were not able to participate. It is for this reason that the Hoenn chapter was created.

Where you come in
Then, I got thinking. Why doesn't Pokecommunity create their own records for the other games as well? So, I went through the list of participants on the RBY one, and asked them for their help. A few quick responders agreed. But we will need more to help. I am calling upon the masses of trainers in Pokecommunity. The Pokecommunity Forums have been kind to you, a place for you to hang out and talk about Pokemon. Now give back to them by placing their name in the record books.

Strategy
I believe that blindly going through the game is the wrong approach. What's to say that someone else just gets a bit luckier and goes through the game faster? So, like any school class, in order to be successful, proper research must be done first. We need people to gather tips for the game. We need people to come up with the team that has the best chance of setting the record. After that, we need people to find the fastest path from start of the game to the end. There are many needs here. I think it is good to have a balance of people speed running and gaining intel that way, and people not running, strategizing off the field. If you are interested, then post in this thread. In advance, I can assure you that any help is much appreciated.

Tips and Tricks

Teams
Fire Wolf's Mudkip start
Spoiler:

1. Swampert (Ice Beam, Surf, Brick Break, Earthquake)
2. Sharpedo (Surf, Crunch, Earthquake, Slash)

Melvern's Treeko start
Spoiler:
1. Sceptile (Leaf Blade, Aerial Ace, Dig, Bulk Up)
2. Zangoose (Crush Claw, Swords Dance, Quick Attack, Slash
3. Keckleon (Ice Beam, Slash, Fire Blast, Psybeam)

Participants
Myrrhman
Redsaber5859
The Opera Ghost
Melvern
Fire Wolf
seal
artificial-insanity

Fire Wolf June 24th, 2010 9:15 PM

I'm in this, I could do on Sapphire.

I know that Mudkip is the best starter. But, I don't have any other tips and tricks to suggest here. Maybe a Swampert solo run? I can do a solo run with Swampert as I've done it before. Surf or Muddy Water/Earthquake/Ice Beam/Brick Break is a good and balanced moveset for Swampert. You'd need Ethers and Elixers, because I used 2 or 3 in my solo run.

I'll first do a research run, and then start my actual solo run.

ChrisTom June 24th, 2010 9:36 PM

Thank you for not only trying to bring this immense project over to the Hoenn region, but also for being kind enough to give me credit for starting this series of projects and for giving me credit for the name. I thoroughly appreciate you and your tenacious spirit. I hope that all of the participants will not only enjoy themselves and try hard, but also gain something from this. Thank you all for being part of the biggest challenge ever.

With all regards,

-ChrisTom

emoxy June 24th, 2010 9:37 PM

I probably won't be playing it, but I'll join to give some tips.

I tried speedruns with EVERY starter in Emerald, and before I reached the parts the Emerald differ from Ruby/Sapphire, I got stuck at this certain point: the second Rival right. Yes, the one at the route below the Cycling Road.

If you choose Mudkip:
Water/Ground Marshtop gets completely owned by Absorb.
If you choose Torchic:
Combusken's low defense gets completely owned by Mud Shot.
If you choose Treecko:
Grovyle gets owned by Ember (or at least what I remember). Rock Tomb doesn't work as Combusken's Fire/Fighting, neutral to Rock attacks.

These tests were done based on defeating as little trainers as possible (for speed), so you will not overlevel the rival enough for your normal attacks to break through his starter.

Melvern June 25th, 2010 12:16 AM

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Heya guyz.... i used Ruby..... VBA.... if any of u knows how to play movie on VBA u can continue mine coz mine will be on VMV format...
UPDATE~!!!!!
Did the starting stuff.... bla bla.... bla bla......
and picked treecko... Beaten the poochyena and do the stuff like nickname and blah
saved and i wasted 3 mins for starting stuff>_<


Some tips:
Change Text speed to Fast
Change Battle Scene to off.
if u plan to play with one pokemon Solo u should turn Battle style to set
and when talking with Prob Birch Don't mash A button coz you will talk to him again and it wastes time... well mash B button but when He asked you about seeing may dont keep mashing B it will waste time.

I researched...... but i havent found out the record of Pokemon RSE....
So.... we PokéCommunity members shall create a record, not just for us but For PokéCommunity......
well feel free to check my attachment, we can do it it's not impossible...
i remembered that my last Ruby run is Grovyle,Zangoose and Kecleon trio
Some advice here... Kecleon must have fire and ice moves, to mock elite4 easier, Zangoose's attack is insane high so use it u will need alot of it and Kecleon is essential so catch it when u are using Devon scope from Steven to see lvl 30 kecleon. But finding zangoose might waste alot of time, probably need alot of restart, but trust me you will need it on many gym......I would reccomend u to evolve grovyle.... coz in my latest run i didn't press it to maximum.. before challanging E4 prepare TM fire blast with u and save after each E4. if u cant pass steven give zangoose Fire blast TM then his Metagross is going down... Do not fear his Armaldo and Cradily whilst u have grovyle and kecleon. i recommend moves for zangoose is Sword Dance,Slash,Crush Claw,Quick attack.if u need fire blast replace Quick attack, also the vital part of my team is Zangoose, zangoose is my sweeper with high dmg and easy lvl up, whilst my Hybrid is Kecleon with Ice beam,Slash,Psybeam,Fire Blast. recommended moves for Grovyle is Leaf Blade,Dig,Aerial Ace,and Bulk up.but the main problem is on Wattson, its tough to take out his Magneton with Grovyle himself, (well this is in my opinion no offense) and i need suggestion.... first also u must catch taillow, u need it to fly.. the water pokemon dont ask me...... i dunno O_O. when u got surf from wally's father dont waste time surfing to Dewford... Go to oldale town and go up, there will be water then surf straing then u are between Slateport and Mauville city,you will also need Aron to beat Wattson coz his magneton have no leviate.well Vigoroth is essential too in case it have insane speed and attack but raising it from a slakoth is tough and waste of time.on my run before i used Zigzagoon to surf,rock smash,Strength, also Pickup. Use map guide on Serebii, and when u were surfing on zigzagoon if you found pokemons like tentacools catch it, you can use it for Dive and Waterfall. flash isnt needed as u can use guide on serebii.net,in my run before i didnt use aron, i use it only on mauville city.
Sry if its too long o.o
I hope this summed, i will try and remember some more..

~Melvern

EDIT: oh... catch groudon with master ball... with it's fire blast too it can take out steven with ease.. my lil bro did catch it so he have no prob on Steven.

Fire Wolf June 25th, 2010 3:29 AM

Melvern, I'd rather run from Groudon than catching it with Masterball, as finding and taking MasterBall from Aqua Hideout is pretty time consuming. If it was like FRLG where you could get the MasterBall automatically, I would've surely caught Groudon.

For Steven, Swampert could easily defeat him. You could target Skarmory's low SpDefense and hit it with Surf, Metagross and Aggron are no problem with Earthquake, Armaldo is weak to Surf and Cradily can't take two Ice Beam's if Swampert is around level 60. Claydol too can't withstand a Surf like Armaldo.

Catching a Zangoose could be a pain as (a) its only available to Ruby users and (b) in Ruby as well its rare.

Melvern, I never thought of going from Oldale to Slateport. I always went to Rustboro, used Rusturf tunnel and went to Mauville from Verdanturf. Why didnt that ever strike my mind? o_o

Swampert and [insert ghost type/dark type] could probably beat the E4 alone. Brick Break's from Swampert could take care of Sidney, [dark/ghost type] could beat Phoebe, Swampert can beat Glacia like Sidney, and Drake is weak to Ice Beams from Swampert. Steven could be taken care of with Swampert as I told.

But, what would be the ideal team for the gyms? Swampert could beat these leaders: Roxanne, probably Brawly, Wattson, Flannery, Winona and Tate & Liza (I hate them because their Gym Puzzle in R/S is pretty annoying and Emerald has them changed to a easy puzzle but Emerald would take time).

That is 6/8 leaders, so something to take care of Norman and Wallace/Juan would be ideal as partners to Swampert.

@emoxy: In my Swampert solo run I remember Grovyle being a problem. There was a rule that you cant train your solo runner in wild as well. I got that rule changed because Grovyle was a major trouble lol.

Melvern June 25th, 2010 3:37 AM

em.... i guess you're right ^^, btw i have knew the way to solve the gym puzzle lol.

EDIT: ah well..... i will try my best, using Sceptile as main member.

emoxy June 25th, 2010 4:54 AM

I'm pretty sure the 2nd battle with Rival I mentioned is a problem, and training in the wild would seriously increase the finish time by a LOT.

Fire Wolf June 25th, 2010 6:29 AM

Another tip: Trick House might be fun, but avoid it as it takes time.

Also, Melvern, you suggested that you should take the Oldale route to Mauville after getting Surf, right? I think going through Petalburg Woods to Rustboro and going to Rusturf after that is better because if you go to Oldale and surf, there are a few unavoidable battles. You also have to go through Cycling road/route below it and in Cycling road there are quite a few battles and in the route below it is grass so you will run into wild pokemon which will waste your time. I think reaching Verdanturf straightaway might be better. If someone's using an Emulator, you could use Save States to save after getting surf, and someone could use both ways to see which takes lesser time.

Melvern June 25th, 2010 6:50 AM

btw thx for directions fire wolf... and yes i used emulator

Fire Wolf June 25th, 2010 6:56 AM

myrrhman, isn't there any better Ghost/dark type attack user than Sableye?

Melvern June 25th, 2010 7:12 AM

Duskull xD........................

Fire Wolf June 25th, 2010 7:15 AM

Duskull? It's obtained pretty late.

Well, something to take care of Phoebe doesn't need to be part Dark or part Ghost, it just needs to know a Dark or Ghost attack.

myrrhman June 25th, 2010 7:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Wolf (Post 5909813)
I'm in this, I could do on Sapphire.

I know that Mudkip is the best starter. But, I don't have any other tips and tricks to suggest here. Maybe a Swampert solo run? I can do a solo run with Swampert as I've done it before. Surf or Muddy Water/Earthquake/Ice Beam/Brick Break is a good and balanced moveset for Swampert. You'd need Ethers and Elixers, because I used 2 or 3 in my solo run.

I'll first do a research run, and then start my actual solo run.

I don't know if its just me, but Surf definitely beats Muddy Water. They have the same Power, and Muddy Water has 15 less accuracy.

Ether/Elixer won't be a problem, I'm sure there are some around the main path of the game that we can pick up.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Melvern (Post 5910098)
I researched...... but i havent found out the record of Pokemon RSE....
So.... we PokéCommunity members shall create a record, not just for us but For Pokecommunity...

Exactly, and it will be unbreakable, so our record stays in the books forever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Wolf (Post 5910349)
Melvern, I'd rather run from Groudon than catching it with Masterball, as finding and taking MasterBall from Aqua Hideout is pretty time consuming. If it was like FRLG where you could get the MasterBall automatically, I would've surely caught Groudon.
IIRC you only have to enter like two more rooms, and we would know exactly where to go when we attempted the record setting run. Also, Groudon could really help with Wallace with his Solar Beam, although having Groudon on your team takes away from Swampert's water move's power because of his ability.

Swampert and [insert ghost type/dark type] could probably beat the E4 alone. Brick Break's from Swampert could take care of Sidney, [dark/ghost type] could beat Phoebe, Swampert can beat Glacia like Sidney, and Drake is weak to Ice Beams from Swampert. Steven could be taken care of with Swampert as I told.
You mean Sableye? That's the only Ghost/Dark in the game. I've Solo'd with a Sableye, its very possible with moves from the list of Shadow Ball/Psychic/Brick Break/Water Pulse/Shock Wave/Rock Tomb/Faint Attack, but Sableye is one of those Pokemon that is harder to get.

But, what would be the ideal team for the gyms? Swampert could beat these leaders: Roxanne, probably Brawly, Wattson, Flannery, Winona and Tate & Liza (I hate them because their Gym Puzzle in R/S is pretty annoying and Emerald has them changed to a easy puzzle but Emerald would take time).

That is 6/8 leaders, so something to take care of Norman and Wallace/Juan would be ideal as partners to Swampert.
From above, Groudon would easily be able to take out Wallace (I'm just ignoring Juan, because lets be honest, I don't see anyone getting the record on Emerald), but again from above, it has its setbacks. Wallace does have a Whiscash, so Grass moves are better than Electric here. As for Norman, idk, you'll probably just have to overpower him.

@emoxy: In my Swampert solo run I remember Grovyle being a problem. There was a rule that you cant train your solo runner in wild as well. I got that rule changed because Grovyle was a major trouble lol.
Yeah, we really need to figure out how to get around this. Luckily, his only grass attack is Absorb, which isn't that powerful if it isn't hitting for x6 power.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melvern (Post 5910358)
EDIT: ah well..... i will try my best, using Sceptile as main member.

This is good, we need people testing all the starters with different strategies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Wolf (Post 5910710)
Duskull? It's obtained pretty late.

Well, something to take care of Phoebe doesn't need to be part Dark or part Ghost, it just needs to know a Dark or Ghost attack.

Ah, I see now. I thought you were suggesting Sableye, but just couldn't remember his name, so you left it as Dark/Ghost type. My bad, and I agree that Sableye is not the strongest choice.

Melvern June 25th, 2010 7:22 AM

i tested and grovyle can pwns Norman

myrrhman June 25th, 2010 7:29 AM

Are you only using a Sceptile? Or will you have other Pokemon with you to help with like Winona? Can you post the movesets?

Fire Wolf June 25th, 2010 7:34 AM

I did some research and found out these pokemon obtainable in R/S learn Crunch by level up:

Mightyena at level 47,
Mawile at level 36,
Sharpedo (Carvanha) at level 22,
Flygon (Trapinch) at level 33,
Seviper at level 28
Glalie (Snorunt) at level 28.

I'll probably use Sharpedo between them as Carvanha gets Crunch pretty early, it has STAB Crunch and Rough Skin is a useful ability. Flygon or Glalie can be used as well.

myrrhman, I've also solo runned with Sableye, its rare in Granite Cave, not available to users of Ruby and isn't really powerful. I'd prefer Sharpedo to it.

Also, by [insert dark/ghost type], I meant any Dark or Ghost type attack user.

Like Norman, you could overpower Wallace, by using STAB Earthquakes and Brick Break if he has any Ice/Water's.

I've got an idea which will require patience but will probably pay off. Before the 2nd rival battle, use save state 1 and save. In the 2nd rival battle, when Grovyle is sent out, save on save state no. 2.

Then, attack. If it Absorbs, and you survive, save again on save state 2. If you can't survive the Absorb, load till it doesn't use Absorb and save again when it doesn't use Absorb or till your attack crits or something. (note: only valid for emulator users like me)

Melvern June 25th, 2010 7:42 AM

btw i used Kecleon.... i added shockwave to ease beating winona and zangoose as killer with high attack

EDIT: of well... killing wallace wont be a problem against Groudon. the only difficulty i have with my Grovyle,Zangoose and Kecleon run is Steven's metagross till i must give zangoose fire blast.anyways kecloen got nice defend

myrrhman June 25th, 2010 7:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melvern (Post 5910774)
btw i used Kecleon.... i added shockwave to ease beating winona and zangoose as killer with high attack

EDIT: of well... killing wallace wont be a problem against Groudon. the only difficulty i have with my Grovyle,Zangoose and Kecleon run is Steven's metagross till i must give zangoose fire blast.anyways kecloen got nice defend

K, I'll add those to your team. And there's another place where Groudon would be useful. STAB'd Earthquake on Metagross or Drought powered Flamethrower, take your pick.

Fire Wolf June 25th, 2010 7:55 AM

Swampert can maim Metagross with STAB Earthquake as well.

Melvern June 25th, 2010 7:55 AM

hmmm...... my lil bro did a E4 run with groudon on his party....
OMG.... he did it so fast i didn't notice i entered first but i have hard times on Steven, but he can do it with earthquake and fireblast.i ended up giving Zangoose Fire blast and used alot of leppa berries. btw Eruption might do it easier but it takes time to lvl it ip(well gtg sleep)

Fire Wolf June 25th, 2010 8:17 AM

I don't know why, but I want to start my speed run now. Even if I fail to beat the record time (whatever it is), I can anytime retry.

I will do a Swampert solo run (obv not counting slaves) uptil I defeat Norman and get Surf. With Surf, I can catch Carvanha, catchable at Route 118 with Good Rod. Sharpedo could help me with disposing Tate & Liza quicker, and help A LOT with Phoebe. My end team would be Swampert with Surf, Brick Break, Ice Beam and Earthquake while Sharpedo will have Crunch, Hydro Pump or Surf, Earthquake (ill teach it with the TM as Pert learns it by level up) and something.

Should I record a video or something? If so, how do you record a video on VBA?

myrrhman June 25th, 2010 9:31 AM

To record, Open your game and go to tools > record > start AVI recording. That should get you going.

Diablo361 June 25th, 2010 9:38 AM

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Originally Posted by myrrhman (Post 5910717)
Ah, I see now. I thought you were suggesting Sableye, but just couldn't remember his name, so you left it as Dark/Ghost type. My bad, and I agree that Sableye is not the strongest choice.

Mightyena. Use Shadow Ball Tm. Rip through Pheobe.

Fire Wolf June 25th, 2010 9:38 AM

myrrhman, you can update my team and put Sharpedo with Crunch, Surf (sadly Hydro Pump is an egg move), Earthquake and Slash.

I don't have many options for the last slot, I'd have to waste time getting the Return TM from Cozmo/the person in pacifidlog. I'll start tomorrow morning, as it is late in my country now.

Diablo361, you have to waste time to get the Shadow Ball TM, or else I could teach it to better choices. Mightyena could be better with a STAB Crunch.

edit: I saw Melvern's team and saw Sceptile with Dig. imo getting the Dig TM is a waste of time and you have more powerful choices like Earthquake. Also don't teach Bulk Up to Sceptile as setting up Bulk Ups takes time and set up attacks arent good in speed runs.

The Sceptile King June 25th, 2010 10:07 AM

new tip:no new mauville,shoal cave,or getting alot o stuff in victory road

SpawnHyuuga June 25th, 2010 10:24 AM

I'm in for this - hit me up on all 3 Hoenn Games. ^^

Ruby:
Torchic

Sapphire:
Mudkip

Emerald:
Treecko

myrrhman June 25th, 2010 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Sceptile King (Post 5911064)
new tip:no new mauville,shoal cave,or getting alot o stuff in victory road

Yeah, this is a good idea. Everyone should first come up with their team. Then, they should stick to the main path unless they are going out to get a TM (which shouldn't be too much of a side path, or it wouldn't be worth it).

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpawnHyuuga (Post 5911098)
I'm in for this - hit me up on all 3 Hoenn Games. ^^

Ruby:
Torchic

Sapphire:
Mudkip

Emerald:
Treecko

I would stay away from Emerald, there's extra stuff that you have to beat. Also, do Mudkip on Ruby, because you will be fighting Team Magma, who uses Fire Types. Torchic is better on Sapphire, because even though you are facing water types, it seems to me that most of the time they use Dark Moves, and your second type is Fighting.

Melvern June 25th, 2010 5:09 PM

btw Fire wolf.....have you memorised the way to break through the gym puzzle? seems i have memorised all including Wallace,Tate&Liza,Winona.
well,gtg to school to receive report and certificate >_<.
btw, i started too on ruby with treecko,it must be tough but i will keep on though....
also dig wastes time so i think that kecleon,Zangoose will help alot in tate and liza, zangoose got high attack and kecleon got his high defense and with slash its strong.

Gulpin June 25th, 2010 5:47 PM

Couldn't someone create a team of pokemon to trade over to easily OHKO every gym leader and at a level that it will obey the player on a different game than the one you are using for the challenge? (like if you have ruby and sapphire with one completed you could build the perfect pokemon to ohko each gym leader and at the first possible moment trade them all over then easily defeat every gym leader). I don't know why trading would be bad or against the rules. And also know how to get thru the water routes quickly.

redsaber5859 June 25th, 2010 5:58 PM

Shoot, I Lost my emerald, I'll get another than I'll post lol

Btw, since emerald is different, the record is separate from rs

Red tip 1
SKip all unnessasary things, such as don't catch the in game legends, don't spend time for items, and don't train too many pokemon

Red tip 2
I would just try mono pokemoning it, you don't have to train that much pokemon for the e4, in emerald, if your starter isn't lv. 65 by the e4, save catch rayquaza beat e4, then try again without rayquaza

Red tip 3
Buy tons of repels, it will save tons of time

Red tip 4
Set options to fast text speed, and battle scene off, and battle style set

Red tip 5
Use mach bike 24/7, hopefully it will only take 2-4 hours though

Red tip 6
If hoenn isn't your fav, and you don't know a lot about it, try another alpha fan first, then try this one if your up to it

Red tip 7
HAVE FUN OR ILL BEAT THE **** OUT OF YOU jk, but do have fun!

myrrhman June 25th, 2010 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deku (Post 5912239)
Couldn't someone create a team of pokemon to trade over to easily OHKO every gym leader and at a level that it will obey the player on a different game than the one you are using for the challenge? (like if you have ruby and sapphire with one completed you could build the perfect pokemon to ohko each gym leader and at the first possible moment trade them all over then easily defeat every gym leader). I don't know why trading would be bad or against the rules. And also know how to get thru the water routes quickly.

I'm pretty sure you can't trade Pokemon. It is meant to be one straight run on one game. If so, then piece of cake, all you have to do is trade Mudkip to another game, level him to level 100 on the elite four (or at least very high) and teach him his final moveset, then trade him back while you complete a little bit of the game with another Pokemon. Unfortunately, this isn't the case.
Quote:

Originally Posted by redsaber5859 (Post 5912258)

Red tip 2
I would just try mono pokemoning it, you don't have to train that much pokemon for the e4, in emerald, if your starter isn't lv. 65 by the e4, save catch rayquaza beat e4, then try again without rayquaza

This is the only tip I don't agree with. I think that two Pokemon is the ideal number. You still get plenty of exp from everyone, and you can either get a bit of type coverage or have an advantage over some of the elite four (like Fire Wolf's Sharpedo). 3 is pushing it, unless the third is a Legendary, and doesn't need any experience. However, this should only be done if there is like a couple of big battles that otherwise would take much longer (Possibly Groudon for Wallace and Glacia or something). Legendaries have very slow growth rates, and will absolutely drain the experience that your other Pokemon need. So your Legendary should be able to, at the level its at, one hit the person you are trying to beat.

redsaber5859 June 25th, 2010 8:38 PM

True true true, but will you add the red tips to the tips section? And ya since there are double battles and stuff, tip two should be out

myrrhman June 25th, 2010 9:27 PM

Yeah, I'll get around to it tomorrow, probably. Right now I just wanna relax.

Fire Wolf June 25th, 2010 10:07 PM

Okay so, I'm starting in a few minutes. I'll keep you guys updated.

Some more tips:
Don't go to the route west of Mauville.
Avoid the desert east of Lavaridge.

edit: I defeated May in Route 103 and got my pokedex + pokeballs. Mudkip is level 6 with Tackle, Growl and Mud Slap. I'll upload the vids later.
Oh and my time is: 0:08. Not a bad time I hope.

edit 2: Here's the video. Youtube takes loads of time to upload..:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTf-a304FaM
Strangely, the video doesnt cover me getting the pokedex + pokeballs. It's only up to me defeating May.

edit 3: As I said I'll keep you updated, here's another update. I did stuff etc. up to Route 104 aka the route where Petalburg Woods end. That means I've now ended the Petalburg woods. Mudkip is level 9 with the same moves. I've caught a Zigzagoon which is a HM slave. I will upload the vid after some time.

My time till now is 0:23. I think it's a good time uptill here, and before 0:30 I'll probably defeat Roxanne.

Fun Fact: For part 2, as I kept screwing it up, on my 6th try I finally made it out of Petalburg Woods without screwing it up again. To add on to that, 6 is my lucky no. :D

edit 4: I tried to upload the video. YouTube strangely says: The upload failed due to an unknown error. Do you mind if I miss out on the update from getting pokeballs + pokedex to crossing Petalburg woods, myrrhman?

myrrhman June 26th, 2010 6:39 AM

Oh yeah, that's just fine. Thanks for at least trying.

Fire Wolf June 26th, 2010 6:42 AM

Do you think that 0:23 after clearing Petalburg Woods is good?

myrrhman June 26th, 2010 6:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Wolf (Post 5913727)
Do you think that 0:23 after clearing Petalburg Woods is good?

Honestly, I have no idea. If you think you've generally been sticking to the fastest route, avoiding trainers you don't have to fight, and not spend much time just standing there, then yeah, I reckon its a pretty good time. Since we're the first people to go for this record, we don't have anything to compare it to.

Fire Wolf June 26th, 2010 6:59 AM

I've battled only 3 trainers. One was May, one was that unavoidable youngster, one was that Magma grunt. Yeah, I've only faced the unavoidable ones. Also, Mudkip is level 8 atm, not 9.

Spoiler:
Also, care to remove the Note, I'm not saying these are the first 5 members of the team, if someone can learn a strong Ghost Move for Phoebe, and can take down Wallace, then by all means combine them. from my team?

Melvern June 26th, 2010 7:09 AM

wow! yeah i did KO'ed the may's chicken with treecko*i have 3 HP left)
i did the stuff blah blah, then i got pokedex, then pokeballs, with Running shoes ... hell yeah ^^... saved and i check the time..... OMG.... 0:06 O_O

EDIT: want me to upload the video?

myrrhman June 26th, 2010 7:11 AM

Lol sorry, I forgot I said that.

Melvern June 26th, 2010 7:15 AM

btw naw ima compressing archieve for the run.... feel free to help me upload.... coz in my place Uploading is hard.....

too much in my mind...... i was pwnd >_>

EDIT: Holy......... sry for my word but so sorry..... 1 GB to upload.... i will die in w8ing so i will upload the Zipped file, i hope someone could help me on uploading it on youtube..... >_>
here's da Link:http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZCDBY2NH

EDIT2: Btw... Fire wolf.... what steps u did to record video... mine is the onw with (uncompressed) so naw the video is 1.6 GB T_T

Fire Wolf June 26th, 2010 11:17 PM

Well, I opened the game using VBA, went to Tools -> Record -> Start AVI Recording and then clicked on OK. That worked fine.
It took me too a lot of time to upload on YouTube.

Anyway, I played more. I battled the trainer below the bridge, near the cut tree on Route 104 for Mudkip to learn Water Gun. Mudkip leveled up twice in the battle and learned Water Gun. Yay.

Then, I healed up and went in the gym. Battled the first trainer for EXP. Leveled up thrice in the battle to level 13. Avoided the second trainer, and took on Roxanne. Geodude was "lol". Water Gun OHKO'd. Nosepass was annoying. Roxanne used 2 potions. But I came on top in the end. I went to the pokemon center and healed up there. Saved. Ohhh and Mudkip leveled up vs Nosepass once.

My time is 0:33. Not too bad, I think. The video will be uploaded soon.

Melvern, where are you and what is your time till now?

Mudkip is level 14, with Water Gun, Mud Slap, Tackle and Growl.

Melvern June 26th, 2010 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Wolf (Post 5915929)
Well, I opened the game using VBA, went to Tools -> Record -> Start AVI Recording and then clicked on OK. That worked fine.
It took me too a lot of time to upload on YouTube.

Anyway, I played more. I battled the trainer below the bridge, near the cut tree on Route 104 for Mudkip to learn Water Gun. Mudkip leveled up twice in the battle and learned Water Gun. Yay.

Then, I healed up and went in the gym. Battled the first trainer for EXP. Leveled up thrice in the battle to level 13. Avoided the second trainer, and took on Roxanne. Geodude was "lol". Water Gun OHKO'd. Nosepass was annoying. Roxanne used 2 potions. But I came on top in the end. I went to the pokemon center and healed up there. Saved. Ohhh and Mudkip leveled up vs Nosepass once.

My time is 0:33. Not too bad, I think. The video will be uploaded soon.

Melvern, where are you and what is your time till now?

Mudkip is level 14, with Water Gun, Mud Slap, Tackle and Growl.

mmmm...... i lost mah data..... crap..... i was on petalburg wood and almost got out with 17 mins time T_T naw i restarted...... did the stupid stuff and now heading for may.... with 3 mins... likes the one before

EDIT: huh.. w8... i will upload the video in VMV that can only be seen with VBA.... coz... 1GB uploading is damn long here.
EDIT2: naw ima slower..... i saved before the trainer with Zigzagoon and i got 7 mins time ^_^..... pretty fast huh? also i have caught zigzagoon with yellow HP with 2 pokeballs... that sucks my time, anyways Lucky i got 2 crits on May's torchic. i will try my best on this challange.
EDIT3: hey hey... i got my vid 2 part with 10 MB and i can upload it fast xD...(uploading)
EDIT4: finally..... Video is finished YAY.....


Direct link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNtRyxwQ_J0

Fire Wolf June 27th, 2010 12:56 AM

7 mins before the Zigzagoon trainer? Wow, I was 8 minutes after getting my pokedex. And I thought I was fast.

Where are you now?

Melvern June 27th, 2010 1:07 AM

emm.....w8..... i forgot... gotta check it T_T
EDIT: w8.. i beat the bug catcher inside petalburg woods(the one with 6 wurmple) i got 17 mins playtime

Fire Wolf June 27th, 2010 1:16 AM

I just reached Dewford and my playtime is 0:47. I've done that Peeko quest.

Mudkip is a Mudkip no more! It's a l.16 Marshtomp with Water Gun, Tackle, Mud Shot, Growl.

Melvern, I dodged that guy with 6 Wurmples. Takes too much time.

Melvern June 27th, 2010 1:25 AM

hmm..... btw.... my Treecko is lvl 11 almost lvl 12.. xD

EDIT: i will try my best to go through the petalburg woods in 5 mins xD

Essence June 27th, 2010 1:48 AM

Finishing a game in 1:50? Is that even possible Q.Q. I find completing a game in (# of Gyms x 1 hour eg. HG 16 Hours, Diamond 8 hours) to be fast. :)

Melvern June 27th, 2010 2:00 AM

hmm.... fastest record i ever seen in Ruby speed run is 2hours and 30+ minutes.... on you tube..
btw wish us luck to create new record ^^

EDIT: got out of Petalburg wood, naw near the bullet seed kid. Yay?....... next target= Roxxane's Badge T_T
also treecko is lvl 12
A quote from mah treecko:tree treecko ko treecko(naw ima stronger)

Fire Wolf June 27th, 2010 2:15 AM

Melvern, your time till now?

Also, should I do Granite Cave first or Brawly first?

Melvern June 27th, 2010 2:33 AM

naw inside Rustboro gym with 22 mins playtime xD

go do Granite cave since brawly is strong.....also, oops.... no sableeye T_T

btw ima standby to fight Roxxane naw, should i fight the trainer?

Treecko lvl 13

EDIT: took me 6 mins to rip out stone badge from Roxxane's Pocket :D
but naw mah treecko is naw a grovyle*HIP HIP Hoorayy*
and i got HM cut for Zigzagoon.... saved and i got 28 mins playtime. *aiming to be on Dewford with 35 mins playtime*

Fire Wolf June 27th, 2010 3:08 AM

28? You're pretty quick, I was at 33 after defeating Roxanne. It's not possible for you to be at Dewford after 35, you have to do the Peeko sidequest and take the Pokenav which takes atleast 10 mins.
Cut's a waste of time as Cut isn't required in R/S. I havent got Cut till now :D

EDIT: Met Steven, defeated Brawly, went to the route below Slateport with Briney, didnt battle a single trainer there, didnt go to the house where you get 6 soda pops after defeating 3 trainers, reached Slateport, went to the Oceanic Museum, got TM46 Thief, defeated the two Magma grunts up there, gave Devon Goods to Stern, healed, saved. Now comes the most dreaded part: May...

My time is 67 mins or 1:07. Wow, I crossed the hour mark without the third badge. All I know is that Wattson is going to be tough for Melvern and easy for me :D

Marshtomp is level 18, with Mud Shot/Water Gun/Tackle/Growl. I'll mass upload the vids later.

Melvern June 27th, 2010 3:45 AM

WOW same lol.....i wanna try on wattson xD

EDIT:yay..... got to dewford and then i sent Steven the letter. i got out of cave with a lvl 18 Grovyle,lvl 10 Aron,low lvls Tailow and Zigzagoon:bandit:. naw ima standby in front of Pokecenter of Dewford city with OMG.......... 00:41 mins playtime:rambo:.
well..... Brawly u are going down:rambo:
EDIT: EPIC BATTLE against Brawly, u will gape when u see the Video ^^ i used alot of potions, it was tough and also.... My grovyle is lvl 19 Movesets:BulletSeed/Absorb/Pursuit/QuickAttack. with 46 mins Platime woooohoooooooo
pretty fast, yay?

Fire Wolf June 27th, 2010 6:26 AM

Guess what?! I have done the most difficult phase of the game: May! Though on my 6th try (I had saved just before her and kept loading each time), I defeated her. Wailmer was KO'd with three Mud Shots, and then came the devil: Grovyle. Marshtomp is such a beast, took TWO 4x Absorbs and KO'd Grovyle. I had lost 13HP in previous encounters, and thought the 13 HP could be valuable, so I first sent out Zigzagoon to heal that 13HP with a super potion I bought before the battle. Grovyle killed poor Zigzagoon with Quick Attack. Then I sent out Marshtomp, who was level 21. I taught Marshtomp Rock Tomb only for Grovyle. It used Absorb, I used Rock Tomb, luckily a critical hit which put Grovyle's HP to red, and while it used Absorb again, I Rock Tombed for the KO! Yay! Sadly I couldnt avoid the two trainers after May and one before May. Whatever, I defeated may atleast.
Defeated Wally as well and now im trying to find the quickest way to Wattson.

Wattson will be a cakewalk, Mud Shot > him.

Marshtomp is level 21 with Water Gun/Rock Tomb/Mud Shot/Tackle.


82 minutes or 1:22 is my time. I know its a bad time, but I hope to improve.

Melvern June 27th, 2010 6:32 AM

wow....on my EPIC battle against Brawly, i have 5 tries before he's KO'ed xD

Fire Wolf June 27th, 2010 6:41 AM

Well, May can be a bigger nightmare for you, Ember can destroy you.

Melvern June 27th, 2010 6:49 AM

hmm....i dont fear T_T
Atleast i can take out... *coughwattsoncough*
oh well...... i have aron to take out Wattson(or Watssup)

Flannery is more..... Ouch....

Fire Wolf June 27th, 2010 6:57 AM

Don't worry 'bout Flannery, you will have Zangoose and the Dig TM then.

Melvern June 27th, 2010 7:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Wolf (Post 5916517)
Don't worry 'bout Flannery, you will have Zangoose and the Dig TM then.

oh lol.....xD................

Fire Wolf June 27th, 2010 8:25 AM

Defeated Wattson, got Rock Smash, got Mach Bike. Saved.
Time is 1:31 or 91 minutes.
I've tried twice to reach Fallarbor, but that trainer with Roselia Stun Spores me and then Mega Drains me. Its pretty tough and she's unavoidable, but I hope to get to Fallorbar today which will be my last update for today.

EDIT: I'm not in the mood to play more, so Mauville is where I will continue from tomorrow. I hope that tomorrow I'll not be slow like today. 91 minutes though is not a bad time as that means I get a badge nearly every half-an-hour, so on average I get all my 8 badges in 4 hours.

Melvern June 27th, 2010 6:49 PM

hmm.... i saw in youtube the fastest is*gulp* 2 hours 30 mins+
btw ima not in mood today so i will update tommorow.

myrrhman June 27th, 2010 11:32 PM

All right guys, I see on Youtube that Speedy Aggron has a time of 2:20. That's our time to beat. 2:20 is absolutely ridiculous. I wonder if its real. It seems like the sounds at least are going a bit too fast. For example,

Spoiler:
In the video where he battles Roxanne, http://www.youtube.com/user/SpeedyAggron#p/c/201F32DB02854A0C/4/Zex9aMnSwUE he levels up when he beats the Geodude. When he's going through the list of stat gains (:31) there are three little beeps. I tried, and I can't get my VBA to go that fast, even with the same settings that he has on and everything. What do you guys think?


Even if this is real, it's still beatable. He does a couple of things that could be faster (like switching down to a girl, naming herself U instead of A, things like that. And I just watched a little bit of the videos, so who knows, there could be similar blunders throughout, which would give us a much easier time beating the record.

Melvern June 28th, 2010 12:50 AM

Rawwrrr... (lolwut)
well we in da name of Pokécommunity will beat the record....

myrrhman June 28th, 2010 7:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melvern (Post 5919142)
Rawwrrr... (lolwut)
well we in da name of Pokécommunity will beat the record....

We will, and besides, he can't put that in the record books because he didn't do some things that Guinness needs in order for you to get in the records. So I doubt he would know if we did the record (even if it is a bit slower than his, which it won't be) and even if we did, I doubt he would take the time to try and beat it.

Fire Wolf June 30th, 2010 2:17 AM

Sorry guys, I was a little busy for the last 2 days, but since I have my work done now, I can finally continue.

Also, myrrhman, why dont you start your run? Also, I'm not recording vids till the E4 now as uploading takes heaps of time.
Finally reached Fallarbor Town, thanks to a Rock Tomb crit. That thing crits always at the right time, first against May's Grovyle and then against that annoying Roselia.

Time is 104 minutes/1:44. 100 minutes passed, I think I'll do it in around 5 hours of gametime.

Also, 2:20? That's ridicoulous, I cant even imagine getting even 6-7 badges in that time.

myrrhman June 30th, 2010 6:16 AM

I would start my run, but I'm working on the original Alpha Fan. I'm almost done with it (I think) and as soon as its done I'll be doing this one.

Melvern July 1st, 2010 5:41 AM

Sry for lack of updates... i'm rly rly busy(working on a game solo)
so i wont update frequesntly, so sry @[email protected]

myrrhman July 1st, 2010 10:50 AM

Lol, you're fine. Any progress is good progress, and you've certainly progressed some.

Gardenia101 July 1st, 2010 6:16 PM

My record in Sapphire was 0:47

But I hacked into it. Hee hee

myrrhman July 1st, 2010 6:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gardenia101 (Post 5930381)
My record in Sapphire was 0:47

But I hacked into it. Hee hee

Nice, too bad you hacked.

Also, GOOD NEWS GUYS! I'm in the Elite Four of round one of my three round Alpha Fan project. And as soon as I finish that, I'm moving to here, so I'm that much closer!

seal July 2nd, 2010 8:13 AM

I don't believe I missed this thread. Myrrhman, ok if I sign up using Ruby?

myrrhman July 2nd, 2010 8:27 AM

Yep, I'll add you right now.

Fire Wolf July 2nd, 2010 8:42 AM

Sorry for not updating for a while, I have school now and school means homework. I'll get an update in a few hours hopefully.

myrrhman July 2nd, 2010 9:45 AM

Oh, I completely understand. I'm typing from a History course right now.

HoennBlaze July 9th, 2010 1:34 PM

:O no updates in a week, I was interested in this, this still happening?

myrrhman July 9th, 2010 3:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoennBlaze (Post 5952312)
:O no updates in a week, I was interested in this, this still happening?

This challenge will be happening until we get a nice, unbeatable record.

HoennBlaze July 9th, 2010 4:09 PM

Awesome, I'll keep a look out but can't really help, tried to do a bit of a speed run earlier but at Brawly with a lvl 16 Marshtomp in 41 minutes but can't beat him :/

EDIT: Finally beat Brawly, headed to Slateport, delivered goods and Am just about to face May with a level 21 Marshtomp :/ got a couple super potions so i'll give it a go. 55 minutes so far.

EDIT2: Beat May by saving and restarting until i got two consecutive criticals with mud shot. 0:58

EDIT3: Beat Wattson 1:06, stuck trying to defeat maxie, 1:35

BakingBluePotatoe July 21st, 2010 4:03 PM

I'm useing Sapphire!

Okay, so I decided to take this up

I picked Torchic, and I just got the running shoes and went to Oldale and got the potion from that one dude....
My time is 0:07
EDIT: I whited out at that first trainer kid on that one route.....
EDIT 2: I just entered Petalburg Woods at 0:18 in, and I only battled 3 trainers, no wilds, oh, and Brendan or course. XD
EDIT 3: I finish Petalburg Woods, captured a Zigzagoon, and I'm at 0:20

I restarted as Treeko. I just defeted Roxanne and I'm at 0:22


FRICK! I had to restart again! I got Treeko, just got into Petalburg woods, and I'm at 0:13
Hopefully it won't bork out on my this time!

\\\\\TIPS:\\\\
At the start:

-go STRAIGHT to the clock, and just press a, then say yes
-go STRAIGHT to the house beside you, and STRAIGHT to Brendan/May
-go STRAIGHT out of town

General:

-Turn of BAttle Animations!
-keep pressing A, but be aware of when to stop!
-Run from Wild Battles
-Don't waste time nicknaming your Pokemon!

HïghÐ꣙ July 22nd, 2010 9:15 AM

Could anyone point the location to the Kanto region topic? The "Search" function didn't seem to find it.

myrrhman July 22nd, 2010 11:35 AM

it's the original, called Project Alpha Fan: Users needed. It's like on page 3 or something.

seal July 22nd, 2010 12:38 PM

Just a quick note on what I'm doing at the moment. At present trying to learn more about Hoenn because to be honest I just realised I don't know terribly much about it. I'll start an Emerald run to remind myself now.


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