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A Pixy June 28th, 2010 12:19 PM

As far as I see, these Pokemon are just average, nothing special. o3o

Penumbra June 28th, 2010 12:20 PM

(I hope) as said before, the pokemon don't even look like pokemon. They... they don't even look like anything. They're just... flat out ugly. I'm sorry, if most of gen 5 is going to look like that... bleh. Like, a coffin with ghost arms... really? Someone's been scraping the barrel lately. I'm sure they're'll be more to look up on (such as more designs similar to Reshiram/Zekrom... hopefully) but the revealed pokemon are just hideous. The colours are ugly, too. Seriously, I think they're slightly running low on their imagination battery. A gear pokemon named Gear and a coffin with ghost arms. How fascinating. Have they even covered all the animals in the real world? Why resort to ghost arms on a coffin?!

Hopefully the displayed pokemon have some more back-story to them (or more merit in typing/stats/move pool), otherwise they're plain ugly. Just my opinion based on what we were were given...

EDIT: That girl-looking thing is a Pokemon?! Oh, boy... sending out humans into battle, now, are we? If it isn't a girl, maybe I'm just blind, but that looks very similar to a human being..

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 28th, 2010 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Penumbra (Post 5920638)
(I hope) as said before, the pokemon don't even look like pokemon. They... they don't even look like anything. They're just... flat out ugly. I'm sorry, if most of gen 5 is going to look like that... bleh. Like, a coffin with ghost arms... really? Someone's been scraping the barrel lately. I'm sure they're'll be more to look up on (such as more designs similar to Reshiram/Zekrom... hopefully) but the revealed pokemon are just hideous. The colours are ugly, too. Seriously, I think they're slightly running low on their imagination battery. A gear pokemon named Gear and a coffin with ghost arms. How fascinating. Have they even covered all the animals in the real world? Why resort to ghost arms on a coffin?!

Hopefully the displayed pokemon have some more back-story to them (or more merit in typing/stats/move pool), otherwise they're plain ugly. Just my opinion based on what we were were given...

EDIT: That girl-looking thing is a Pokemon?! Oh, boy... sending out humans into battle, now, are we? If it isn't a girl, maybe I'm just blind, but that looks very similar to a human being..

hands on a coffin is very imaginative compared to a plain panda when you think about it.

Planetes. June 28th, 2010 12:25 PM

I hate everyone but they axe, a few hours ago this I thought nintendo was "innovating" with this game, by innovating they meant "Completely Destroying your childhood and having our franchise commit suicide, have fun with the dead body- we call it Pokemon Black/White!" They show us the cute Pokes first so we're hooked and we want to buy the game, then they have the ugly demons jump straight out of Pandora's box, nintendo can't hide it forever!

Air Pichu June 28th, 2010 12:26 PM

Doesn't seem imaginitive at all to me, and i just don't like it, hopefully other Pokemon don't look like this.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 28th, 2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Penumbra (Post 5920638)
(I hope) as said before, the pokemon don't even look like pokemon. They... they don't even look like anything. They're just... flat out ugly. I'm sorry, if most of gen 5 is going to look like that... bleh. Like, a coffin with ghost arms... really? Someone's been scraping the barrel lately. I'm sure they're'll be more to look up on (such as more designs similar to Reshiram/Zekrom... hopefully) but the revealed pokemon are just hideous. The colours are ugly, too. Seriously, I think they're slightly running low on their imagination battery. A gear pokemon named Gear and a coffin with ghost arms. How fascinating. Have they even covered all the animals in the real world? Why resort to ghost arms on a coffin?!

Hopefully the displayed pokemon have some more back-story to them (or more merit in typing/stats/move pool), otherwise they're plain ugly. Just my opinion based on what we were were given...

EDIT: That girl-looking thing is a Pokemon?! Oh, boy... sending out humans into battle, now, are we? If it isn't a girl, maybe I'm just blind, but that looks very similar to a human being..

uh we had Machomp, and Gradevoir and gradevoir is very human like as well as Jynx, human like Pokemon isn't new

Air Pichu June 28th, 2010 12:28 PM

lol of course its not a human :P

Nick June 28th, 2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5920660)
uh we had Machomp, and Gradevoir and gradevoir is very human like as well as Jynx, human like Pokemon isn't new

This is what I would have pointed out.

I don't see anything wrong with humanoid-like Pokémon being used in this generation. I think it would make the game more diverse, since that's something that's lacking in the Pokémon world. At least they're trying something new, and although the Pokémon showed so far aren't exactly up to par with everyone's expectations, they're going out on a limb. I think they know that these designs aren't going to be very accepted by a lot of those who play, but with the storyline and all, I think they're aiming for more so of monsterous Pokémon. They've already admitted to a darker storyline.

Penumbra June 28th, 2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5920660)
uh we had Machomp, and Gradevoir and gradevoir is very human like as well as Jynx, human like Pokemon isn't new

Fair enough, but they were still very different from humans. Such as, all of those mentioned dont have ears or noses, or their colours were completely different.

But that girl-looking thing clearly looks like a woman in a dress, with those... spiky protrusions on her head meant to be her freaky hair style. Of course, maybe I'm just being quick to judge, but I definitely see a girl in a dress.

And also, I know my rant was mainly on the coffin thing, but that other... thing looks horrid, in my opinion. The second "foe" of the first image. It looks really... odd. The mole looks rather simple. A basic animal dipped into a dark rainbow, and then equipped with metal claws and head/face protection. But that... what is it supposed to be, a mantis? That's just ludicrous.

Some of you may be all, "they're trying something new for once!" That understandable. I'm not holding a pair of "nostalgia goggles" as I've accepted gens beyond the second, but... that thing just drives me up the wall and back.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 28th, 2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchisou Yutohru (Post 5920670)
This is what I would have pointed out.

I don't see anything wrong with humanoid-like Pokémon being used in this generation. I think it would make the game more diverse, since that's something that's lacking in the Pokémon world. At least they're trying something new, and although the Pokémon showed so far aren't exactly up to par with everyone's expectations, they're going out on a limb. I think they know that these designs aren't going to be very accepted by a lot of those who play, but with the storyline and all, I think they're aiming for more so of monsterous Pokémon. They've already admitted to a darker storyline.

I'm glad there someone who understands :), yeah the story line is darker with the new person with the crown...he looks very evil compared to Giovanni and the others. We even have a pokemon that identified as demon fox ;)


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Originally Posted by Penumbra (Post 5920677)
Fair enough, but they were still very different from humans. Such as, all of those mentioned dont have ears or noses, or their colours were completely different.

But that girl-looking thing clearly looks like a woman in a dress, with those... spiky protrusions on her head meant to be her freaky hair style. Of course, maybe I'm just being quick to judge, but I definitely see a girl in a dress.

And also, I know my rant was mainly on the coffin thing, but that other... thing looks horrid, in my opinion. The second "foe" of the first image. It looks really... odd. The mole looks rather simple. A basic animal dipped into a dark rainbow, and then equipped with metal claws and head/face protection. But that... what is it supposed to be, a mantis? That's just ludicrous.

Some of you may be all, "they're trying something new for once!" That understandable. I'm not holding a pair of "nostalgia goggles" as I've accepted gens beyond the second, but... that thing just drives me up the wall and back.

This new one doesn't have ears...or does it 0_0...well it's monster mantis of some kind :).

Penumbra June 28th, 2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchisou Yutohru (Post 5920670)
This is what I would have pointed out.

I don't see anything wrong with humanoid-like Pokémon being used in this generation. I think it would make the game more diverse, since that's something that's lacking in the Pokémon world. At least they're trying something new, and although the Pokémon showed so far aren't exactly up to par with everyone's expectations, they're going out on a limb. I think they know that these designs aren't going to be very accepted by a lot of those who play, but with the storyline and all, I think they're aiming for more so of monsterous Pokémon. They've already admitted to a darker storyline.

Uh, did a random meteor suddenly hit me when that was revealed? I don't remember them admitting to a "darker" storyline, as that would most definitely put off their target audience... you know, children? I don't think the players want to walk into "FOREST OF PERENNIAL EVIL" just to see some woman being sexually harassed by an evil "Team" in the game.

Of course, I'm exaggerating, but everything still seems rather Pokemon World to me. So what if there was a demon fox pokemon? Dusknoir is said to capture people within its belly, and drifloon is said to carry off children to distant places. Last time I checked, I still ventured through places named "Floaroma Town".

Having a few darker pokemon does not make the game more evil, nor the story line. I believe it's been established that there will be definite changes, but more evil? nah. That crown boy doesn't scare me, nor does he/she seem more evil than Giovanni. Giovanni got his minions to kill a marowak which haunted you in a tower. Hell, Cyrus summoned a pokemon which created a portal into a different dimension. Some (wo)man mischievously marveling a glowing crown does not scare me.

MartinJF June 28th, 2010 12:39 PM

Well, the seven other normal pokemon CoroCoro revealed a while back where better. My top five list of 5gen pkmn this far is:

1. Shimama
2. Pokabu
3. That Sarcophagus thingy.
4. Hihidaruma
5. That ectoplasm bear thingy

Jerme June 28th, 2010 12:43 PM

well i never liked any of the human like pkmn in the 1st place. none of them, inlcuding 1st gens. and that little girl thing looks EXACTLy like a human, not just something based on one.

im not nostalgia blinded, i like the others

Waffle-San June 28th, 2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Charmageddon (Post 5919943)
I like Ledyba though. I think that it's just simple enough. I do like the occasional unusual Pokemon, but things like Ledyba, Pidgey and Seel make the Pokemon world feel a little more real, you could imagine them really living in an ecosystem. I could imagine a wood filled with Ledyba, Butterfree, Pidgey and Pineco. I cannot imagine Hihiraduma or Munna in any realistic setting at all. The overblown nature of some of the new Pokemon actually takes away the childish wonder of the world.

Meguroko's the croc, yes? Well, I like him and Pokabu. I haven't seen enough of the mole, and visually Chiramii and Mamepato are alright, but I'm not sure on them because they continue a formula that got stale in Gen II (cute rodent-y Pokemon and common Normal/Flying bird).

Maybe I was a little harsh earlier, it was a knee-jerk reaction to this latest batch. I do like some of the new Pokemon, it's just that ones like Hihiraduma and the green-plasma thing are, IMO, horrifically ugly, and the percentage that I like seems to get smaller and smaller every generation. :(

I'd say most of this is fair, but if you want more simple woodland creature like Pokemon then you're bound to get some recycling. There's always going to be birds and rodents.

Also I'd say the horned Dragon thing is no more detailed than Tryannitar. But Tryanitar sure isn't Ekans. :P

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Originally Posted by Azure-Supernova (Post 5920224)
And I've not heard anyone yet explicitly state that they do not look like Pokémon. I've heard claims that the design style has changed, that they now resemble Digimon or Yu-Gi-Oh monster somewhat, but never that they don't look like Pokémon. I'll agree, there's a point where a rational "I think it looks ugly" seperates from the more radical "OMFG so ugly has spoiled Pokes now!".

The point is, whether it's nostalgia guided or not, it's still an opinion, and unless it's so ridiculous as to point blank state that "it doesn't look like a Pokémon", then it should be respected.

*Ahem* (stares at next quotes)

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Originally Posted by Air Pichu (Post 5920592)
I have one thing to say:
THEY DISGUST ME.

They do not look like Pokemon, the old ones they announced were cool, but now this? There's too much going on, I mean look at the old Pokemon like Ekans. Purple Snake, that's it, no weird parts or anything. Right now they absolutely DO NOT look like Pokemon.

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Originally Posted by XxRogueTrainerxX (Post 5919998)
I too am not particularly fond of the new Pokémon... almost all of them lack any thought or creativity at all.

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Originally Posted by thegeneticway (Post 5920779)
To be honest, they don't look like pokemon. They look like something you would dream up in a nightmare. I plan on buying the game but now looking at these pokemon, they make me not want to buy this game. Yuck

Anyways, alot of people who dislike the new pokemon are not wearing, "nostalgia goggles." It's just the ones that do can be so infuriating that they draw a lot of attention to themselves. I quoted Charmaggedon above because he simply doesn't like the new Pokemon as he prefers simpler Pokemon that one could envision running throuh a forest. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. It's just when people claim that they're unbelievably unoriginal, that Game Freak is running out of ideas, or how because of a Pokemon or two they won't buy the games and judge the entire region on the little bad instead of the overwhelmingly good. That's when it gets annoying.
It's also irratible when people see new Pokemon and the first thing they do is compare them to past Pokemon. I mean when the starters came out half the posts were about how they just looked like a mix between x pokemon and x pokemon. Why can't they just be their own pokemon?

Anyways the Puppet one and the spiky red and blue thing still has yet to grow on me but everytime I look at the Mantis horned axe Dragon thing it grows on me even further. Man I want one!! I'm think Bug-Ground type for it though actually. It looks like some sort of desert creature to me.

thegeneticway June 28th, 2010 1:04 PM

To be honest, they don't look like pokemon. They look like something you would dream up in a nightmare. I plan on buying the game but now looking at these pokemon, they make me not want to buy this game. Yuck

Storm_has_formed June 28th, 2010 1:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5920680)
I'm glad there someone who understands :), yeah the story line is darker with the new person with the crown...he looks very evil compared to Giovanni and the others. We even have a pokemon that identified as demon fox ;)

well Cyrus was pretty evil, wanting to recreate the world in which he would rule. If basically eliminating the world as a whole to start over isn't dark, i don't know what is

Bamboo Basara June 28th, 2010 1:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure-Supernova (Post 5920068)
Now that is entirely opinionated. I felt that the more realistic the Pokémon were, the more I liked them because they felt closer to home. Not in a vanilla way, but in such a way that I was able to immerse myself into the game a lot easier.

Taking a dragon and gluing on some sythes and armour automatically makes it creative and an improvement, nay, a vast improvement?

The more fantastical and vulnerable to memes (Bidoof anyone?) the Pokemon series gets, the more it comes off as a kids game.

Also people out there calling the "nostalgia vision" argument need to stop it. You may be plucking on a different string, but you're just plucking it over and over and over...

All I'm saying is I'm happy to see Game Freak has finally found its creativity. I love Pokemon, some are beautiful and amazing, others are just lazy. Ekans is just a snake, Krabby is just a crab, Pidgey is a small bird, etc.
The potential for Pokemon is infinate. I'm happy to see Game Freak is leaving its safe-zone. I think people just need to get used to these new designs, I think this generation will be well loved once people warm up to it.
This generation is exactly what I've been hoping for.

LegendaryPichu June 28th, 2010 1:31 PM

I think that Game Freak is releasing some of the more chaotic and freakish Pokémon after showing some of the simplistic ones like Mamepato, Chiramii, Mun'na, Shimama, etc.

I don't want to worry that this gen's Poké will sucks, there has to be some pleasant surprises here and there. And I guess Game Freak is showing some of the worse Pokémon right now for the trailer because we have already seen some pretty good ones. And I don't think any of the Pokémon I have seen will grow on me. Way too chaotic, WAAAAAAY too chaotic.

MistahDude June 28th, 2010 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryPichu (Post 5920875)
I think that Game Freak is releasing some of the more chaotic and freakish Pokémon after showing some of the simplistic ones like Mamepato, Chiramii, Mun'na, Shimama, etc.

I don't want to worry that this gen's Poké will sucks, there has to be some pleasant surprises here and there. And I guess Game Freak is showing some of the worse Pokémon right now for the trailer because we have already seen some pretty good ones. And I don't think any of the Pokémon I have seen will grow on me. Way too chaotic, WAAAAAAY too chaotic.

If you show pokemon that are very different to each other you will appeal to a wider array of people. Some people like the Mole and some people like the Tarantula for example.

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty June 28th, 2010 1:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5920936)
If you show pokemon that are very different to each other you will appeal to a wider array of people. Some people like the Mole and some people like the Tarantula.

I agree. Releasing all of the simpler Pokémon would have turned away those looking for more complex monsters; and visa-versa. Unfortunately GameFreak cannot please all of their fans all of the time, but the positive reactions to this post show that they can please some of their fans, some of the time.

It will be like every other Gen - you will love one Pokémon, even if you hate all of the rest.

Bloothump June 28th, 2010 1:58 PM

I agree with MistahDude. I believe that GF is just showing a different array of pokes in order to appeal to a different array of people, It's not some "scheme" to trick people into buying the game or whatever.

§acred†Beo! June 28th, 2010 2:16 PM

The sarcophagus pokemon is going to be awesome, as well as the dragon mantis pokemon is just epic. The rest don't look to bad ether, all in all i've been pretty pleased with the 5th gen to date.

MistahDude June 28th, 2010 2:24 PM

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Originally Posted by §acred†Beo! (Post 5921044)
The sarcophagus pokemon is going to be awesome, as well as the dragon mantis pokemon is just epic. The rest don't look to bad ether, all in all i've been pretty pleased with the 5th gen to date.

The Axe Lizard looks nothing like a Mantis.

Anuhrima June 28th, 2010 2:25 PM

People who say these don't look like pokemon need to stop. Stop looking to the past cause it time for change. Playing games with the same simple looking and not so different from the last is going to be boring. There is always going to be change once you like it or not. I'd get used to these Pokemon if I were you.

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty June 28th, 2010 2:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5921065)
The Axe Lizard looks nothing like a Mantis.

Seriously, if Axe Lizard doesn't turn out to be its Species Name, I will be extremely upset. Mainly for the mental image that Axe Lizard provides.

Dillon_68 June 28th, 2010 2:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5921065)
The Axe Lizard looks nothing like a Mantis.

Exactly. I think people are only saying Mantis to make the rumors seem correct when truthfully we havent seen the slightest hint of a new mantis yet.

Thorns June 28th, 2010 2:38 PM

Any new info on the Pokemon revelaed yesterday?

Haza June 28th, 2010 2:44 PM

I don't understand where all this hate is coming from when in the first gen not only did we have sever Pokemon that were human like, we had a Pokemon named MR. MIME! Or PERSIAN, oh, and DITTO. If I can type in a Pokemon's name without Spellcheck kicking in something is wrong. Also, Dewgong and Seel look so much like real animal's that it's silly. There are going to be oddities in every generation. Don't go throwing up red flags at just one or two.

Koi June 28th, 2010 2:45 PM

Man why the heck all the new Pokemons looks like a Digimon? DX

Haza June 28th, 2010 2:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty (Post 5919570)


Voltorb + Magnemite in Gen I...?

I was only count Gear and the sarcophagus...

Waki Tobaye June 28th, 2010 2:52 PM

My first impression on these ones was: "...They're ugly."
But, after a while of looking at them, some of then grew on me quickly and now I really like the Sarcofagus one, the Baby Mole one, the Tarantula-that-will-replace-Ariados one and the Emo-looking one. I'm neutral on the the big mole one (along with Mijumaru)

So far I do not like Zoroark and the happy gorilla(These are my least favorite), the Metagross-wannabe one and the "axe dragon" that many of you seem so pleased with also are bad designed IMO. Those ones look like something we already have. Especially the dragon; he looks strikingly familiar... and the Plasma one really looks bad-done. It could get a redesign.

EDIT: Looked at the video again. The plasma alien looks cool; I've changed opinions.
EDIT2: I really like the plasma guy; I'm gonna draw it. It became my favorite of this batch.

Jerme June 28th, 2010 2:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thegeneticway (Post 5920759)
To be honest, they don't look like pokemon. They look like something you would dream up in a nightmare. I plan on buying the game but now looking at these pokemon, they make me not want to buy this game. Yuck

simple, just do what i would do: ignore them, dont catch em, slaughter em. no one is forcing you to use them.

Thorns June 28th, 2010 3:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerme (Post 5921187)
simple, just do what i would do: ignore them, dont catch em, slaughter em. no one is forcing you to use them.

Yeah, that's what it's gonna come down to for all the negative people here.

For me, I like most of them (So far, the only one I hate is the Lady Gaga one).

Giaru and Desukan especially.

But I plan on using old Pokemon like Bronzong and Claydol as well.

MartinJF June 28th, 2010 3:04 PM

Well, the 8 newest pkmn revealed look kinda creepy... I wont be suprised if all of them Are Ghost or Dark types :P

though I Think both moles will be Ground/Steel...
And that pokemon that look like a girl in a dress look more like a puppet. It kinda look like a really old puppet...

Lol, I want to have a Bannete, Claydoll and that new dress pokemon with me so I can be the Master of puppets :P

Pandemonioum June 28th, 2010 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thegeneticway (Post 5920779)
To be honest, they don't look like pokemon. They look like something you would dream up in a nightmare. I plan on buying the game but now looking at these pokemon, they make me not want to buy this game. Yuck


Sir, what does Pokemon look a like? I wanna know, give me explanation. I would appreciate it, since I don't really know what they are supposed to look like :(

I have always thought that if they show us legit material of new pokemon it would automatically be that what Pokemon looks like, but reading your comment gets me uneasy. Am I wrong, why don't they look like Pokemon?

exteradude June 28th, 2010 3:15 PM

I love these new pokemon! Some people say that the new pokemon are ugly, and while I accept their opinions, I beg to differ. These critters look original and epic. I love how they're coming out with designs more original than the last.

This makes me imagine myself aged 80 and playing Pokemon... I wonder how many pokemon there'll be by then?

I know...

OVER 9000!!!!!

Haza June 28th, 2010 3:17 PM

Am I the only one who has noticed the besides a few most of these Pokemon look like something that would be on Team Rocket or used by some other villain... they all look evil. And I mean all of this generation so far.

Furanty June 28th, 2010 3:32 PM

So. I'm a fan of each Pokémon, at least, I was. I was one of the few people, who did not consider Lucario Digimon-like. I loved it from the beginning. And so it was with many Pokémon. Gen IV brought some strange Pokémon with it, e.g. Bronzong. But Gen I also had some strange ones, so it was not really a problem.

But what Oha Suta revealed yesterday is ... I can't find a word for it! They do not look like Pokémon. Really, this sacophargue-thing seems to be derived from Yu-Gi-Oh! And the Tarantula. Well okay, it's not that bad.
So, a day after, I think I can live with those Pokémon. Maybe we will become friends...

MartinJF June 28th, 2010 3:37 PM

Only the 8 ones revealed in Oha Suta today look evil... The 7 first standard pokemon just look plain.

I agree, the Legendaries dont feel like pokemon, but the others do.
The new pokemon look different, yes, but all of the pokemon look different. Just Think about it. Does Totodile, Stantler, Ho-Oh or Chinchou look the same as the 1st generation pokemon? no, they dont look like the original pokemon. and then again, the new pokemon isn't supposed to look the same as other pokemon.

I mean, how boring would the game be with only one sprite for all 494 pokemon? If that was the case, then you would beg for sprites like this...

Astinus June 28th, 2010 3:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5921273)
Am I the only one who has noticed the besides a few most of these Pokemon look like something that would be on Team Rocket or used by some other villain... they all look evil. And I mean all of this generation so far.

Now that you mentioned it, these Pokemon revealed look rather "dark", like something that the evil team of the region would have on their teams. The mole, Dragon-Axe, and especially the dark-colored ghost girl... They just seem to fit the part.

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Sir, what does Pokemon look a like?
That's my question as well. I see people saying that these new Pokemon don't look like Pokemon, but then I never see them fully explain exactly what it is that a Pokemon is supposed to look like.

Dark Piplup June 28th, 2010 4:22 PM

The new ones look like digimon used by an evil team. And that ghost girl just looks messed up.

Palantides June 28th, 2010 4:32 PM

I think out of all the new ones, the only one that I don't like particularly (because it looks over drawn from the sprite), is the mantis. Most of the other ones have started to grow on me (can't make a comment on the coffin though... It just seems weird).

Hopefully some official artwork will be released, and then I could make a better judgment of them.

MistahDude June 28th, 2010 4:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Palantides (Post 5921547)
I think out of all the new ones, the only one that I don't like particularly (because it looks over drawn from the sprite), is the mantis. Most of the other ones have started to grow on me (can't make a comment on the coffin though... It just seems weird).

Hopefully some official artwork will be released, and then I could make a better judgment of them.

There is no mantis. Only a Germ, Emo, Rock monster, Axe lizard, Mole, Tarantula and Sarcophagus.

Pandemonioum June 28th, 2010 4:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Piplup (Post 5921497)
The new ones look like digimon used by an evil team. And that ghost girl just looks messed up.

Umm..

Sir, can you give me more detail? What does Digimon look a like? And how does it differ how Pokemon look a like? And I still don't know how Pokemon looks either :(

Palantides June 28th, 2010 4:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5921569)
There is no mantis. Only a Germ, Emo, Rock monster, Axe lizard, Mole, Tarantula and Sarcophagus.

Mantis=Axe Lizard. It looks like a Mantis to me, so I will call it a mantis until I see official artwork.

Astinus June 28th, 2010 5:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5921569)
There is no mantis. Only a Germ, Emo, Rock monster, Axe lizard, Mole, Tarantula and Sarcophagus.

I've known lots of people who consider Dragon-Axe a mantis. So Palantides isn't wrong to consider that Pokemon a mantis. The picture is kind of blurry, so it's difficult to say for sure what Dragon-Axe looks like/is based on.

I'm hoping for some official art work soon. So we can actually see what the Pokemon look like instead of the pixelated moving sprites in pictures. And some of the Pokemon from the front, like Sarcophagus.

thedestinedblade June 28th, 2010 5:07 PM

Not really a fan of any of these, but I think I'll need to see some better pictures or some official artwork before I can fully judge.

MistahDude June 28th, 2010 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Palantides (Post 5921651)
Mantis=Axe Lizard. It looks like a Mantis to me, so I will call it a mantis until I see official artwork.

Oh I guess in a crazy person's world a lizard body, lizard tail, and lizard head makes it look like a mantis.

Palantides June 28th, 2010 5:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5921696)
Oh I guess in a crazy person's world a lizard body, lizard tail, and lizard head makes it look like a mantis.

If an unclear image of something that looks to be a hulked up mantis to me makes me a crazy person... Then so be it.

Shiro-san June 28th, 2010 5:34 PM

Personally i like the 2 at the top battle picture. The green dinosaur is awesome but i am not gonna make any final calls tell i see some good pics.

MistahDude June 28th, 2010 5:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Palantides (Post 5921734)
If an unclear image of something that looks to be a hulked up mantis to me makes me a crazy person... Then so be it.


It doesnt share any features with a Mantis. The legs are different. The arms are different. The body structure is different. The face is different. Mantis's don't have tails or fangs and Ononokusu does. He has absolutely no features that are shared with a mantis.

The image is clear because its from an HD video shown on Filb.de. You can't get clearer than that.

Thorns June 28th, 2010 5:43 PM

Here's another analysis I did, only on Denchura.



Jigglymilk June 28th, 2010 6:22 PM

Cant wait for Desukan and Denchura!

Thorns June 28th, 2010 6:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jigglymilk (Post 5921987)
Cant wait for Desukan and Denchura!

Me either! I made two videos about them :D

Guy June 28th, 2010 6:36 PM

So, yesterday all of this came up pretty abruptly. With so much at once unexpectedly, it was a lot to look at together. Plus, the low quality wasn't helping either. :\ My first impression on these few new Pokémon weren't so good to be honest and I just thought they were really overdone. With some time though, they pretty much sunk in and I've grown to like them.

Moguryu, Doryuuzu, and Denchura (loving it being an Electric Tarantula) are my favorites of them all. The little green ghost-like Pokémon is cute I think, and the Rock-like Pokémon looks really cool. Overall, I think the Pokémon aren't too half bad. I'm just not feeling that black doll Pokémon; kind of weird in my opinion.

As for the 3-on-3 battles. Well, other than the fact things might look a bit crowded, I'm interested in seeing how this works. It'll definitely give a twist to battling, I'll give it that.

Thorns June 28th, 2010 6:37 PM

Hiiro, about the electric tarantula, it's not really confirmed yet if it's part electric or not. :(

It's still speculation.

last fighter 36 June 28th, 2010 6:38 PM

wwwooooooooooooooooooooo new pokemon new region new LEGENDS Reshiram-Zekram can you control them probably not

Guy June 28th, 2010 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorns (Post 5922049)
Hiiro, about the electric tarantula, it's not really confirmed yet if it's part electric or not. :(

It's still speculation.

That is true. Guess I was getting a little ahead there for moment.

However, based on its derived name and color of the Pokémon, I'm pretty much leaning to the fact that it could possibly be a Bug/Electric Type Pokémon. Though we'll just have to wait and see. I would admit though, a Bug/Electric Type was be a pretty decent (and new) type combination.

Robin Hood June 28th, 2010 6:56 PM

I really like these pokemon and can see myself using these on my future team. I didn't like the earlier ones most for the reason of them being too "cutesy" for me but these seem like my kind of pokemon!

Mole Pokemon that we only saw the back of: Seems cool, but also seems like it's the kind of pokemon they'll put beady, annoying eyes on and that might stop me from picking it. But I can see me using it on repeat playthroughs just to see how it handles. It's not bad.

Mantis-Damn! Look like a Psuedo-legendary like Dragonite or Garchomp. WIll definitely be using this! Not to mention that a Psuedo-Legendary Bug-Type is a very cool idea. Being based on a Mantis, it'll no doubt have X Scissor in it's arsenal. This pokemon alone makes me want to do a Bug-Monotype run through this game already.

Drill Mole thing- A bit blurry, probably an evolution of the first mole we see and all-in-all I don't mind it. Again, not a first choice pick, but will use it eventually.

Sarcophugus-Ghost/Rock type? Seems like that, interesting combination. Probably will be an Physical attacker as opposed to Special attacker. I don't see a problem in it like most users do, it could even be a first-run choice for me. Of course that depends on the front of the thing. It doesn't seem to float though, wonder how it moves around.

Tarantula-Amazing! Probably my favorite on yet. Just it's back design has made me so excited. Definetly using it! I never liked Ariados but Spider pokemon are a great type that aren't seen often. Really like this one.

Leaf-Plasma thing-Meh, not my cup of tea but not horrible. Reminds me of Rotom, only... Leafier.

Ruby-rock-monster - One of the few I don't like much. Not into that living rock thing.

Dark-girl - Again, not my type but seems to be the kind of pokemon that deals mostly with Status Ailments, i'm betting that it's going to be useful to competive battlers.


I'm very excited about Pokemon Black and White now! Only thing I'm really iffy about is the Triple Battles, but i'll wait until I experience those to hold judgment.

Le Creep! June 28th, 2010 7:09 PM

I don't mind the thing with frills and a skirt.

I'm going to definitely catch that thing.

GoldvsRed June 28th, 2010 7:13 PM

I like the sarcophagus and that blade-dragon-thingie, but what the crap is that black bell-shaped creature on the far right? It looks like the emo of Pokemon. Also, why isn't anyone talking about the new human revealed? I think he looks a lot like he'd be the protagonist's father, just judging by appearance. The smirking face, pale complexion, and black shirt suggest he's an antagonist, though.

pichuspark June 28th, 2010 7:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Creep! (Post 5922165)
I don't mind the thing with frills and a skirt.

I'm going to definitely catch that thing.

Me too! Heck, since someone in this thread mentioned it looked like Lady Gaga (or was it on another forum?) I might as well catch one to insult my Lady Gaga obsessed friends ^.^

(No offense to all of you Lady Gaga fans, BTW)

Ravecat June 28th, 2010 7:46 PM

I hope the plasma-ghost-thing evolves.

Silver.Nova June 28th, 2010 7:47 PM

I'm liking most of these so far. Honestly the only one I hate is the fire ape thinger revealed last time. It's eyes... I just... No. Scary. D:

The rock thinger looks like a nosepass evo. I hope so, I cried when I saw Probopass. Nintendo owes me for those corrupted memories of Mr. Potato Head. ;-;

The doll looks pretty cool to me. Possibly related to Banette? Totally gonna call her Lady Gaga as well.

The mole made me lol so I want it.

Dragons - right on. Might be another dark/rock like Tyranitar. Then again... Bug/Dragon? Since there's such a debate on weather it's a dragon or a mantis.

Yay, more spiders! He looks fuzzy. :3

ANd omg, so totally hoping that thing is in a sarcophugus. I will cry tears of joy. My gf is betting on a spiritom evo but I hope it's original.

Bottom line, Silver approves.

MistahDude June 28th, 2010 8:06 PM

Bigger picture of Ononokusu:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4273/11571341m.jpg

Ono - axe, hatchet
no - can be a possessive term?
ku - 9?
su - nest

The "ono" and "su" seem to be accurate to the creature, but I couldn't make sense of the interior of the term. Then I tried "noku", which came to mean "to get out of the way".

If you think a Dinosaur with an Axe on his head looks like a Bug you may be high on crack.

Serebii and other sites have called him the Mantis pokemon because for some reason they thought he looked like it when we had blurry images. Ononokusu has all reptilian features and absolutely no insect-like features. He looks a lot like Tyranitar.

I will be using this Dinosaur guy.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 28th, 2010 8:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Anuhrima (Post 5921071)
People who say these don't look like pokemon need to stop. Stop looking to the past cause it time for change. Playing games with the same simple looking and not so different from the last is going to be boring. There is always going to be change once you like it or not. I'd get used to these Pokemon if I were you.

I agree with you 100 %, change happens we have to get used to change or be overwhelmed by it...

Phantom Poodle June 28th, 2010 8:31 PM

Meh I don't like any of these designs IMHO. :P

Of course I said that about the other revealed Pokemon and now I pretty much like them all. Haha. xD;

I'd like to see some Sugimori stuff though. D:

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 28th, 2010 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Poodle (Post 5922360)
Meh I don't like any of these designs IMHO. :P

Of course I said that about the other revealed Pokemon and now I pretty much like them all. Haha. xD;

I'd like to see some Sugimori stuff though. D:

Yeah I hope so too, maybe it's the sprites being very pixelly that makes them look worser than they really are, so far for the other 14 gen 5 pokemon we saw official artwork in the official website, corocoro, or Pokemon sunday but they have yet to us the artwork for these Pokemon.

Bamboo Basara June 28th, 2010 9:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Robin Hood (Post 5922121)
Mole Pokemon that we only saw the back of: Seems cool, but also seems like it's the kind of pokemon they'll put beady, annoying eyes on and that might stop me from picking it. But I can see me using it on repeat playthroughs just to see how it handles. It's not bad.

For some reason I imagine it with Snorlax eyes to play on the fact that moles have bad eyesight. I'm not sure though, since the bigger mole seems to have sort of beaty eyes.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 28th, 2010 9:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bamboo Basara (Post 5922433)
For some reason I imagine it with Snorlax eyes to play on the fact that moles have bad eyesight. I'm not sure though, since the bigger mole seems to have sort of beaty eyes.

It probably will have snorlax eyes...or large black beady eyes...

Gymnotide June 28th, 2010 11:46 PM

Long shot, but the second part of Ononokusu's name could just be nokusu as in "nox;" night, though that would be spelled kisu :/ Anyway, that being said, let's not rule out that Pokemon as a Dark type.

Palantides June 29th, 2010 12:22 AM

Ononoku by itself can mean "shake" or "shudder" or "quake with fear". Here's the Hiragana of it in case any are interested (おののく). When Su (Hiragana す) appears at the end of a word, it's to represent birds. It'd be nicer (for translation purposes) if their names were in Kanji or Hiragana instead of Katakana.

Ninja Caterpie June 29th, 2010 12:23 AM

Oh my god, there's nothing else to complain about except for how a few people and a fansite call the Pokémon?!

It's their opinion that it's a mantis, leave it be. My god, have you nothing better to do than disprove opinions?!

Faline June 29th, 2010 12:58 AM

I like the looks of the new ones, They look interesting. Pokemon is drawing inspiration from new sources, that makes me happy.

As for triple battles, I say why not? As long as there arent too many of them, It's fine. or if theres an option to do them in the frontier/tower/whatever, And they arent in the actual game, or what. any way they happen, they look intriguing. sure, its kinda cramped, but meh. im aesthetically laid back, so that doesnt matter much to me.

But im really intrigued by those three in the middle. Thhe cute-ish green jelly thing, the guy with the red crystals coming out, and the black one that looks kinda humanoid. they look the coolest of the newest batch to me.

Migueliscool June 29th, 2010 1:06 AM

I like the top right one too I'm thinking maybe ground poison. I'm not really going to like the triple battles though(Says that now) it's gonna be way too crowded

Haza June 29th, 2010 1:09 AM

I love how many Pokemon are being revealed so early. I hope that they don't reveal too many but I hope to get at the most ten more before September. These were so random... I wish the official site would update with them.

MistahDude June 29th, 2010 1:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5922827)
I love how many Pokemon are being revealed so early. I hope that they don't reveal too many but I hope to get at the most ten more before September. These were so random... I wish the official site would update with them.

They probably will when Pokemon Sunday shows the pokemon.

Charmageddon June 29th, 2010 2:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 5920759)
I'd say most of this is fair, but if you want more simple woodland creature like Pokemon then you're bound to get some recycling. There's always going to be birds and rodents.

True. But new things can always be done with the forumla. Sentret and Hoot-hoot for example followed on from the Rattata/Pidgey mold, but found their own niches, only appearing in the daytime/night for example, and Sentret starting the HM slave tradition, as apposed to Rattata who was just a reasonably strong early Pokemon. However Zigzagoon/Taillow and Bidoof/Starly really didn't offer anything new at all, apart from maybe Bibarel gaining a secondary type.

By now we shouldn't still be having Normal-type rodents and Normal/Flying birds. They could be of any type - we should be looking at 3-stage Electric/Fire rodents and Grass/Flying birds.

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Also I'd say the horned Dragon thing is no more detailed than Tryannitar. But Tryanitar sure isn't Ekans. :P
And I have to admit, I'm one of like 3 people that doesn't really like Tyranitar. :D

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty June 29th, 2010 3:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Charmageddon (Post 5922912)
And I have to admit, I'm one of like 3 people that doesn't really like Tyranitar. :D

One of four people. Tyranitar is my least-favourite Dragon dragon-looking-thing. -.- Hence why I'm hoping Ononokusu is a Dragon, because he looks awesome. =]

Hoi doi derp.

spastman June 29th, 2010 4:12 AM

Miss Mime & second Bronzor evolution??
 
Ok, its just an idea, but can it be that there is a connection between this pokemons:

http://www.pokevana.be/pictures/Algemeen/5th%20gen/slides/Mimes.jpg

Like you see get Mr Mime and that new Pokémon hair on the side of they face, and are both of them bassed on human people. The "fat" on mime jr body can be linked to the robe of that new pokemon.

http://www.pokevana.be/pictures/Algemeen/5th%20gen/slides/bronz.jpg

The connection that you can see direct is the "logo" on backside of this 3 pokemon. Also the 5 Blue/Green points on the new pokemon (Desukan) can be linked to the "balls" on Bronzor. And if you see the Japanes name's of this 3, you must be realy sure that they have a connection:

Domira (Bronzor)
Dotankun (Bronzong)
Desukan (The new one)

Thanks to Gengarking for the idea!

Rengoku June 29th, 2010 4:21 AM

I thought the first was a Jynx's evolution though lol!

And ah, nice thinking for the Bronzor part, I wasn't expecting it.

Sammuthegreat June 29th, 2010 4:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty (Post 5922947)


One of four people. Tyranitar is my least-favourite Dragon. -.- Hence why I'm hoping Ononokusu is a Dragon, because he looks awesome. =]

Tyranitar's Rock/Dark... If you mean he's your least-favourite pseudo-legendary, then fair enough.

I love Ononokusu though. Really looking forward to having him in my team, regardless of his type. I can't wait to see the whole new Pokedex!!

Haza June 29th, 2010 4:41 AM

I dunno, she does have a purple face and looks like a psychic type... could be.

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty June 29th, 2010 4:45 AM

I'd love the first one if we didn't already have female Mr. Mimes. Mind you, we also had male Gardevoirs, and they still managed Gallade...I'm likin' it.

As for the Sarcophagus/Bronzor connection...no! I want Sarky to have his own line, but damnit, that symbol is similar. ;~;

Penutz June 29th, 2010 4:45 AM

Nah probably not for both. But good looking though,

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty June 29th, 2010 4:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sammuthegreat (Post 5923005)
Tyranitar's Rock/Dark... If you mean he's your least-favourite pseudo-legendary, then fair enough.

I love Ononokusu though. Really looking forward to having him in my team, regardless of his type. I can't wait to see the whole new Pokedex!!

Actually, I think I'm just a bit special an idiot. lmao. This is the third time I've forgotten that Tyranitar isn't a Dragon-type. ;~; *goes back to edit original post*

Masterge77 June 29th, 2010 4:52 AM

We don't even know what 3 of the Pokemon look like from the front, we only see their backs, so maybe the next CoroCoro will show their fronts.....

JakeyBoy June 29th, 2010 5:03 AM

The first one? Doubt it. The colour scheme is the same I'll give you, but it doesn't really give off the clowny vibe. I'l wait it out, I suppose there's a chance that it could be a Dark evolution for it.

The second one? Holy hell's bells, that's pretty much certain. The marking almost gives it away, and they use the same, if not a very similar blue. And the names are similar and everything (not that I'm a Japanese expert). Gengarking is a genius. I'll happily believe this until it's debunked.

crehym June 29th, 2010 5:22 AM

No!! They'd be better if they're completely unrelated.

Planetes. June 29th, 2010 5:24 AM

not even close, thats one symbol that makes them the same, does Electabuzz evolve into Raikou because they both are yelllow with black stripes?
Obviously there is no connection. Sheesh.

JakeyBoy June 29th, 2010 5:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 5923059)
does Electabuzz evolve into Raikou because they both are yelllow with black stripes?

Could you have possibly thought up a vaguer connection? Those are just colours, and the stripes thing is a coincidence because it's not exactly a very specific detail. That logo is almost EXACTLY the same, the newer one being a bit thicker. That's like seeing the Apple logo on a Mac and an iPod, and then saying "Well, that's just one logo. No way are they made by the same company, not a chance!" It may not be set in stone, but it's pretty likely that they are related in some way, even if it isn't through evolution.

MistahDude June 29th, 2010 5:46 AM

Those are both pretty huge jumps in designs. I would to think they are in new evo lines, but I dunno.

Weatherman, Kiyoshi June 29th, 2010 5:48 AM

I would perfectly fine with the first one. I'm actually sorta liking the idea.

But the wsecond one?
You have a pretty good point, but I don't know.

Flying Disk Thing into Sarcophagus?
Stranger things have happend, though.

Myles June 29th, 2010 5:49 AM

Dohmirror: bronze and mirror
Dohtakun: bronze and ding-dong
Desukaan: death and coffin

The emblem is a bit different and a common shape. Completely different colours. Completely unrelated designs. And Desukaan is obviously going to be Ghost, so it will be a different type too.

Just a coincidence.

spastman June 29th, 2010 5:50 AM

I remember my just somthing, this are pokedex entrys from bronzong:

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One caused a news sensation when it was dug up at a construction site after a 2000-year sleep.
And this are pokedex entrys from bronzor:

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Implements shaped like it were discovered in ancient tombs. It is unknown if they are related.
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Ancient people believed that the pattern on Bronzor's back contained a mysterious power.
Just like you can read, are this points that have a connection with that sarcophagus. Ok, there is something like a ghost inside that sarcophagus, but read than this:

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X-ray photos were taken to check its body structure. Nothing appeared, however.
If they don't found a body structure, there can be a sort of ghost "inside" bronzor, so that gives more the idea that the sarcophagus can be connected to bronzor!!!

Crysta Blade June 29th, 2010 6:00 AM

Wasn't expecting new Pokémon to show up now. Anyway, a gothic lolita Pokémon? Interesting. Wonder what Type(s) it'll have.

The green gooey thing is making me think an alien from space.

myrrh25 June 29th, 2010 6:01 AM

We now already have 3 or 4 reasons for Bronzor & Bronzong to be related to GhostPharoah. I've thought of one.

Something else I noticed is that the lighter blue on Bronzor is the same colour palette as the blue on GhostPharoah.

MistahDude June 29th, 2010 6:22 AM

BRONZOR
BRONZONG
BRONZOFFIN

560cool. June 29th, 2010 6:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5923165)
BRONZOR
BRONZONG
BRONZOFFIN

All this Bronz- thing is getting old and annoying.
Ithought Bronzor/ong had something to do with the Distortion World (since they dwell the ENTIRITY of Mt. Corornet) and a coffin evolution would ruin the underpowered metal thingys.
ME NO WANT BRONZ- ALTERNATE EVO ! :( Like said, evolutions ruin certain Pokemon. : Ex. : Did Lickitung need Lickylicky ? I don't think it's more popular now, if you get my example...

Cherrim June 29th, 2010 6:43 AM

None of these new Pokémon really click for me. :/

They aren't simplified enough, maybe, but I look at them and the only reason I know they are Pokémon is because the surrounding image is reminiscent of other Pokémon games (ie, battle scene, etc.) This makes me a little sad. I actually liked a fair few of the ones released in the last batch but none of these are piquing my interest.

Maybe it's just because computer-animated sprites are hideous and jaggy. They might look better with official art. I'll wait and see.


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