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Dillon_68 June 29th, 2010 9:18 AM

I'm all for the Bronzong turning into the sarcophagus, the evidence is convincing enough.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 29th, 2010 10:05 AM

Brozong turning into the sarcophagus? To me it looked more like a spiritomb evolution...

Jaiyke June 29th, 2010 10:38 AM

i would like Mr. Sarccy to have it's own Evolution line...
Spiritomb seems powerful enough to me with the Dark/Ghost type and no weakness... blah blah
Maybe it's Prevo will be somthing like a Scarab!... or even better!!... A SCARAB POKEMON with it's own Evo line >w<
i would love them so much... but yeah =P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 29th, 2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaiyke (Post 5923762)
i would like Mr. Sarccy to have it's own Evolution line...
Spiritomb seems powerful enough to me with the Dark/Ghost type and no weakness... blah blah
Maybe it's Prevo will be somthing like a Scarab!... or even better!!... A SCARAB POKEMON with it's own Evo line >w<
i would love them so much... but yeah =P

Maybe :), though the scarab seems like a Steel/bug type pokemon while our Egyptian coffin looks more like a rock/ghost...maybe if the coffin turns out to be Steel/ghost it might happen :)

Bamboo Basara June 29th, 2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spastman (Post 5922991)

http://www.pokevana.be/pictures/Algemeen/5th%20gen/slides/bronz.jpg

The connection that you can see direct is the "logo" on backside of this 3 pokemon. Also the 5 Blue/Green points on the new pokemon (Desukan) can be linked to the "balls" on Bronzor. And if you see the Japanes name's of this 3, you must be realy sure that they have a connection:

Domira (Bronzor)
Dotankun (Bronzong)
Desukan (The new one)

Eh, the symbols are similar and they are both ancient Pokemon but I don't think they are of the same evolutionary line. They look far too different and the Sarcophagus will most likely be a ghost type. They may have a related history but I doubt the evolutionary lines will cross.
I suppose we will find out soon enough.

musesum626 June 29th, 2010 12:01 PM

I don't see much resemblance between Bronzong and the coffin Poke (which reminds me of Pharaohman.exe of Megaman) I'll admit I was pretty shocked by these designs at first, mainly because of their color schemes. (Those 4 vastly different Pokemon looked like a jumbled mess at first glance) But some of them, like the axe dragon, are pretty cool.

In this image....

http://pokebeach.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/oha-suta-new-pokemon-2.jpg

The first thing I noticed was that the middle one looks a lot like Nosepass mixed with Metagross, but seeing as there's no prominent nose I don't think it's a Nosepass split evo (Actually, doesn't Nosey evolve in Mt. Coronet? This could be an evolution from Isshu)

The one on the right looks like it could be a Banette evo, Dusknoir's counterpart. No comment on the green thing.

Rengoku June 29th, 2010 12:28 PM

Seriously I aren't going to not buy it just because of some Pokemon that have not grown on me as yet.

Remember the release of the starters? Or the dragon duos?
Everyone goes: "Oh freaking ugly Digimons alike Pokemons!"
And don't a lot of people get used to them as they grow on you?

So, don't judge even before everything is released altogether.

And lastly, if you detest, then don't buy, no one is forcing you to.

Thorns June 29th, 2010 12:36 PM

I think Desukan might indeed me conencted to Bronzor and Bronzong, but Spiritomb seems more likely.

Jaiyke June 29th, 2010 12:41 PM

i can see Mr. Sarccy and Bronzong being related...
not Evolutionary though
more like cousins or something like they came from the same Ancestry or something
kinda like Growlite to Arcanine and Vulpix to Ninetales a little...
but Bronzong and Bronzor are designed upon Mirrors and if it did evolve from Bronzong
i'd end up hating it because Bronzong always took so much to defeat because of his only weakness being fire
and seeing how i almost never had a Fire type on my team... Bronzong was put on my Hate list... FAST
Bronzor was a Steel Psychic this looks more Ghost so Related yeah maybe..
evolutionary wise... i'm 99.9% doubtful... but you never know =P

Charizard★ June 29th, 2010 12:43 PM

I'm not going to lie, they look pretty weird. Although, the mole one catches my interest.

Thorns June 29th, 2010 12:52 PM

How does Bronzong look like a Ghost Type?

It definately looks Steel/Psychic, way more than Metagross :P.

But Desukan will rock no matter what it evolves from!

Jerme June 29th, 2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 560cool. (Post 5923191)
All this Bronz- thing is getting old and annoying.
Ithought Bronzor/ong had something to do with the Distortion World (since they dwell the ENTIRITY of Mt. Corornet) and a coffin evolution would ruin the underpowered metal thingys.
ME NO WANT BRONZ- ALTERNATE EVO ! :( Like said, evolutions ruin certain Pokemon. : Ex. : Did Lickitung need Lickylicky ? I don't think it's more popular now, if you get my example...

if marowak evolves into something with spikes on its skull and dual weilding 2 bones, i'll accept it. but if they make into something that has a bone on its crotch i'll.....

Jaiyke June 29th, 2010 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorns (Post 5924201)
How does Bronzong look like a Ghost Type?

It definately looks Steel/Psychic, way more than Metagross :P.

But Desukan will rock no matter what it evolves from!


oops! i guess i should have put a comma
i meant to say, Bronzor is a Steel Psychic type,
and This New One looks more Ghost =P
yeah i guess your right xDD

Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty June 29th, 2010 1:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerme (Post 5924209)
if marowak evolves into something with spikes on its skull and dual weilding 2 bones, i'll accept it. but if they make into something that has a bone on its crotch i'll.....

If it evolved like that, I'd have a good laugh watching the censors trying to explain why, exactly, the European and American versions have to have one Pokémon less than Japan. 'Cause we all know that would go down swell there¹. XD

¹ Not racist: just comparing how dumb censors can be sometimes. Like the episode of the anime where a gun was Photoshopp'd out...for an American audience. hoi doi.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 29th, 2010 1:44 PM

Hey I just read the new moves list on Serebii and it has a move called Shell Blade it sounds like Majimaru's version of Treeco's family's Leaf blade so what will be the signature moves of Tsutaja and Pokabu???

Jaiyke June 29th, 2010 3:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5924333)
Hey I just read the new moves list on Serebii and it has a move called Shell Blade it sounds like Majimaru's version of Treeco's family's Leaf blade so what will be the signature moves of Tsutaja and Pokabu???

i think we've seen Tsutaaja's already too!...
Grass Mixer i think?
as for Pokabu
Flaming Skillet!!! >=O

Alyssachu June 29th, 2010 3:53 PM

...

Okay. I just mentioned in one topic that the new Pokemon's "badass" looks didn't matter to me.
But now I'm having... somewhat... different thoughts.

I hope they come out with more CUTE, less-badass-looking Pokemon. ._.

Jaiyke June 29th, 2010 4:22 PM

i just noticed something!
...
that one Rock/Gem looks like a Sableye Evolution!
if you compare them together =)
if it was said by a previous person then oh well
i'll bet ya that the Unnamed Pokemon the one in the Middle is an Evolution of Sableye
Jaiyke Says Yes!

Edit: the only thing that i can think of that it WON'T be a Sableye Evo... are the Eyes XDD they're the only things not "Gem'd Out" =D

Lolfish June 29th, 2010 4:42 PM

Great god now triple battles. :(
Now we're gonna' see alot of noobs with Reshiram, Zekrom, and the third pokemon that will go with those legendaries. (Sort of like Groundon, Kyogre and teh third, Rayquaza)

If this pattern continues, we're gonna' have quadruple battles in the 7th generation. Ugh.

SargeantMajorKururu June 29th, 2010 4:45 PM

I like all of these Pokemon! There really cool to me, especially the mole and the tarantula. And that unnamed green thing, even though it reminds me of Gligar.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 29th, 2010 4:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lolfish (Post 5924830)
Great god now triple battles. :(
Now we're gonna' see alot of noobs with Reshiram, Zekrom, and the third pokemon that will go with those legendaries. (Sort of like Groundon, Kyogre and teh third, Rayquaza)

If this pattern continues, we're gonna' have quadruple battles in the 7th generation. Ugh.

I was talking to a friend about the pattern and gen 7 before but yeah 4 is a little to much...

Jerme June 29th, 2010 4:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musesum626 (Post 5924027)
I don't see much resemblance between Bronzong and the coffin Poke (which reminds me of Pharaohman.exe of Megaman) I'll admit I was pretty shocked by these designs at first, mainly because of their color schemes. (Those 4 vastly different Pokemon looked like a jumbled mess at first glance) But some of them, like the axe dragon, are pretty cool.

In this image....

http://pokebeach.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/oha-suta-new-pokemon-2.jpg

The first thing I noticed was that the middle one looks a lot like Nosepass mixed with Metagross, but seeing as there's no prominent nose I don't think it's a Nosepass split evo (Actually, doesn't Nosey evolve in Mt. Coronet? This could be an evolution from Isshu)

The one on the right looks like it could be a Banette evo, Dusknoir's counterpart. No comment on the green thing.

looks like a mix of heatran, nosepass and metagross

and maybe that coffin thing opens up when it evolves and becomes something else

Lolfish June 29th, 2010 5:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SargeantMajorKururu (Post 5924844)
I like all of these Pokemon! There really cool to me, especially the mole and the tarantula. And that unnamed green thing, even though it reminds me of Gligar.

Hehe Yes it does, sort of like a grass version. (Possibly you use a leaf stone, or something else)

The Axe Bug pokemon looks like a Scyther/Scizor Evolution.
The coffin pokemon Is just possibly a new pokemon that does not have anything to do with the older pokemon. Put it to rest people.
The unamed pokemon to the far right on the picture beside the weird Heatran/Nosepass/Metagross thing looks like a buneary evolution.

The Pokemon Company is running out of ideas...

ragingraichu June 29th, 2010 5:39 PM

the Sarcophagus looking pokemon is pretty brutal looking. The designs look go so far.

luigimario94 June 29th, 2010 5:45 PM

The Sarcophagus Pokemon (Bottom Left next to Tartantula): Desukaan (デスカーン)
Evolution of Spiritomb? I hope so.

EmeraldSerenade June 29th, 2010 5:46 PM

The Coffin-like poke looks pretty cool. I still love the electric zebra one though :D

SargeantMajorKururu June 29th, 2010 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigimario94 (Post 5925083)
The Sarcophagus Pokemon (Bottom Left next to Tartantula): Desukaan (デスカーン)
Evolution of Spiritomb? I hope so.

It's actually shown a lot of evidence to be related to Bronzor/Bronzong O_O

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 29th, 2010 6:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SargeantMajorKururu (Post 5925100)
It's actually shown a lot of evidence to be related to Bronzor/Bronzong O_O

Well there is some evidence that its related to spiritomb as well, you see spiritomb has a sign on its keystone:) It has shadows and its attached to some type of Tomb, like Spiritomb is

Waffle-San June 29th, 2010 6:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lolfish (Post 5924930)
Hehe Yes it does, sort of like a grass version. (Possibly you use a leaf stone, or something else)

The Axe Bug pokemon looks like a Scyther/Scizor Evolution.
The coffin pokemon Is just possibly a new pokemon that does not have anything to do with the older pokemon. Put it to rest people.
The unamed pokemon to the far right on the picture beside the weird Heatran/Nosepass/Metagross thing looks like a buneary evolution.

The Pokemon Company is running out of ideas...

Um...I've heard alot of people make this claim but this is one of the worst...I mean does every Pokemon have to look like a combination of Pokemon. And calling the Axe bug a Scizor evolution and the Puppet Pokemon a Buneary evolution is pushing it...REALLY pushing it.
I only take exception to this because of that is your reasoning for GameFreak running out of ideas then...erm...yeah...

SargeantMajorKururu June 29th, 2010 9:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5925142)

Well there is some evidence that its related to spiritomb as well, you see spiritomb has a sign on its keystone:) It has shadows and its attached to some type of Tomb, like Spiritomb is

That's not a symbol, that's a crack in the tombstone. And also, the symbol shows a LOT more similarities to Bronzor than Spiritomb.

BeachBoy June 29th, 2010 9:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SargeantMajorKururu (Post 5925100)
It's actually shown a lot of evidence to be related to Bronzor/Bronzong O_O

wait how? What evidence supports the relation to those two?

SargeantMajorKururu June 29th, 2010 9:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeachBoy (Post 5925711)
wait how? What evidence supports the relation to those two?

It was earlier in the thread. The back symbol is similar, and the names are also similar...Kind of like an evolution...

Ravecat June 29th, 2010 9:51 PM

It's not evidence it's speculation.

BeachBoy June 29th, 2010 9:56 PM

Thanks for the directions, Sargeant. I saw zero connection before I looked at the speculation, but now that I've seen it, it is pretty compelling. o_O Interesting theory, at least. Can't wait to see how that turns out.

SargeantMajorKururu June 29th, 2010 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravecat (Post 5925746)
It's not evidence it's speculation.

Yeah that's what I meant. Thanks for the correction. -_-'''

Gymnotide June 29th, 2010 10:15 PM

The thing about this Bronzor > Desukaan thing is that even though it seems to make sense based on the symbols, Egyptian sarcophagi were usually made of stone or solid gold, not bronze, like bronze mirrors / dotaku. Then again, though, bronze mirrors also existed in Egypt -- though, to counterbalance that fact, they weren't especially remarkable -- definitely not something nearly comparable to something like the sacred sarcophagi.

To be honest, I'm not buying it. Again, it's just speculation, so there's no telling until the actual game comes out.

Incidentally, wouldn't it be funny if they added that Pokemon just because the Metropolitan Museum of Art, which houses many Egyptian relics, is in New York (which many believe Isshu is based on)? I mean they're adding pigeons, and we have a lot of those here too!

Myles June 29th, 2010 10:42 PM

How is the Bronzor/Bronzong-Desukaan evidence convincing? That symbol is largely different, the names are nothing like each other (the person who posted that messed up both Bronzor and Bronzong's names to make them look similar; they also have no similarities in etymology) and there are no other similarities.

Bronzor and Bronzong are related to some myth/traditon/whatever about mirrors and bells and are related to the Distortion World. Desukaan is related to like Egypt.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 30th, 2010 9:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myles (Post 5925842)
How is the Bronzor/Bronzong-Desukaan evidence convincing? That symbol is largely different, the names are nothing like each other (the person who posted that messed up both Bronzor and Bronzong's names to make them look similar; they also have no similarities in etymology) and there are no other similarities.

Bronzor and Bronzong are related to some myth/traditon/whatever about mirrors and bells and are related to the Distortion World. Desukaan is related to like Egypt.

Bronzor and Bronzong are related to Shintoism a religion practiced in Japan while Desukaan is related to Egyptian Mythology about the dead and all that stuff :)

RavenStar June 30th, 2010 11:11 AM

I'm super excited about new Pokemon to catch. And triple battles will be crazy, but crazy fun.

Thorns June 30th, 2010 11:13 AM

I just want to put it out there I' mthe first person to actually put out the ide aof Bronzor and Bronzong being connected to the Distortion World :)

dragoniteuser June 30th, 2010 11:19 AM

New pokemon... well they suck. Now don't all start jumping at me for this! It's my opinion, I just don't like them... not one. Pretty disapointing!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 30th, 2010 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorns (Post 5927094)
I just want to put it out there I' mthe first person to actually put out the ide aof Bronzor and Bronzong being connected to the Distortion World :)

Haha, I know but that's one wacky idea...almost as crazy as Mew being related to Ditto...

Well the new Pokemon are great in my opinion :)

Kardashian June 30th, 2010 2:03 PM

The Axe Dragon is AMAZING. Plus, a coffin pokemon? That could be cool. I like the gothic thingy too. And the rock thing in the middle of the second pic...looks cool.

Gymnotide June 30th, 2010 5:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5926888)
Bronzor and Bronzong are related to Shintoism a religion practiced in Japan while Desukaan is related to Egyptian Mythology about the dead and all that stuff :)

Well, sort of. More accurately, Bronzor and Bronzong hail from a specific Japanese myth. The two Pokemon aren't particularly affiliated with the religion itself; in fact, bronze mirrors were quite common for the time.

MistahDude July 1st, 2010 9:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lolfish
Hehe Yes it does, sort of like a grass version. (Possibly you use a leaf stone, or something else)

The Axe Bug pokemon looks like a Scyther/Scizor Evolution.
The coffin pokemon Is just possibly a new pokemon that does not have anything to do with the older pokemon. Put it to rest people.
The unamed pokemon to the far right on the picture beside the weird Heatran/Nosepass/Metagross thing looks like a buneary evolution.

The Pokemon Company is running out of ideas...
Look at this image and tell me it looks like a Mantis, I DARE YOU:

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/182/3/c/Ononokusu_by_Xous54.png

Xous54 is well known for making art that resembles that of Sugimori's, so you can just bet that Ononokusu is going to look like this. He in no way resembles a Mantis.

Also I do not think Scyther or Scizor would turn into a heavily armored dinosaur with an Axe coming out of his mouth.

Hibaru July 1st, 2010 10:39 PM

I kinda wondering if that Tarantula Pokemon is the Evolve form of Ariados using Thunder Stone. But We'll see more details anyway.

Ninja Caterpie July 1st, 2010 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5930834)
Look at this image and tell me it looks like a Mantis, I DARE YOU:

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/182/3/c/Ononokusu_by_Xous54.png

Xous54 is well known for making art that resembles that of Sugimori's, so you can just bet that Ononokusu is going to look like this. He in no way resembles a Mantis.

Also I do not think Scyther or Scizor would turn into a heavily armored dinosaur with an Axe coming out of his mouth.

Seriously, can you just let it go already? People can call the Pokémon whatever they freakin' please. I call the ectoplasmic thing Rotom-2. Is it? NOT AT ALL, but I can still call it that.

TwinkleClefable July 1st, 2010 10:57 PM

I hope they make more Egyptian Pokemon...

The Coffin monster reminds me of a floormaster....maybe because of the hand
The mantis one is a digimon
And i think i just saw Monty mole and Drillmon. Lol

Myles July 1st, 2010 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5931067)
Seriously, can you just let it go already? People can call the Pokémon whatever they freakin' please. I call the ectoplasmic thing Rotom-2. Is it? NOT AT ALL, but I can still call it that.

Just don't call it 'looks like it will be an evolution of Rotom'. If you speculate something, expect rebuttal.

Sage Harpuia July 1st, 2010 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibaru (Post 5931038)
I kinda wondering if that Tarantula Pokemon is the Evolve form of Ariados using Thunder Stone. But We'll see more details anyway.

It isn't going to happen! Oh, don't get me wrong I would love the reuse of old item, but, if the tarantula is an evo of ariados, they are going to made a newsuperiperelectrizeruseless-thing for that stupid "rule" that old pokemon must evolve in new ways to not create a contradiction in old game (example electrabuzz doesen't evolve with thunder stone because in yellow thunder stone has no effect on it). It's very stupid, and I wouldn't care less if this appens, but Gamefreak is a bit dull sometimes...

Hibaru July 1st, 2010 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 5931067)
Seriously, can you just let it go already? People can call the Pokémon whatever they freakin' please. I call the ectoplasmic thing Rotom-2. Is it? NOT AT ALL, but I can still call it that.

Umm...Are you angry? Slow down okay!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sage Harpuia (Post 5931084)
It isn't going to happen! Oh, don't get me wrong I would love the reuse of old item, but, if the tarantula is an evo of ariados, they are going to made a newsuperiperelectrizeruseless-thing for that stupid "rule" that old pokemon must evolve in new ways to not create a contradiction in old game (example electrabuzz doesen't evolve with thunder stone because in yellow thunder stone has no effect on it). It's very stupid, and I wouldn't care less if this appens, but Gamefreak is a bit dull sometimes...

Sorry if I do made a mistake. But I just wondering, Sorry buddy. Take it easy alright.

shamin32 July 1st, 2010 11:28 PM

AWESOME this could be our first triple battle

Thorns July 9th, 2010 11:09 AM

Mistah, I like your speculation and all, but I think it would be preferred if you called the "Dragon Axe" Pokemon by what it was originally called, a mantis.

And before I hear anymore ranting about it not being a mantis, Magamr doesn't look like a duck, but it's based off one. Diglett and Dugtrio look nothing like actual moles, but that's what they are.

So yes, Ononokusu is a mantis, like it or not guys.

MistahDude July 9th, 2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorns (Post 5952023)
Mistah, I like your speculation and all, but I think it would be preferred if you called the "Dragon Axe" Pokemon by what it was originally called, a mantis.

And before I hear anymore ranting about it not being a mantis, Magamr doesn't look like a duck, but it's based off one. Diglett and Dugtrio look nothing like actual moles, but that's what they are.

So yes, Ononokusu is a mantis, like it or not guys.

Its never been officially called a mantis, its only been falsely speculated as one. It shares no features with a Mantis. Magmar isn't a duck its a clown. Diglett looks like a mole.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/182/3/c/Ononokusu_by_Xous54.png

Looks nothing like a mantis.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/190/7/f/Kibago_Sprite_Rip_by_KagutsuchiX.jpg

This pokemon looks like Ononokusu's prevo because it has blades coming out of it's mouth and is a small lizard/dinosaur. It shares no features with a mantis.

When a pokemon is based off of something it usually shares a feature or two with that creature. It doesn't have to be a large feature. Magmar sort of has a duck bill and Diglet acts and looks sort of like a mole. Ononokusu shares nothing with a mantis. He has a different mouth, jaw, tail, body, legs, claws and overall structure. Why would they call a Dinosaur with Steel blades coming out his mouth a mantis when he looks nothing like one? You want a mantis? Use scyther.

Thorns July 9th, 2010 12:16 PM

Who speculated it? If not Game Freak, must of been someone big.

P.S, I hope your joking about Magmar being a clown.

MistahDude July 9th, 2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorns (Post 5952141)
Who speculated it? If not Game Freak, must of been someone big.

P.S, I hope your joking about Magmar being a clown.

Serebii called it mantis-like and everyone has been copying them.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 9th, 2010 9:15 PM

I wish we got some official artwork of the new pokemon...


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