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war rock exe July 28th, 2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by -Lapras- (Post 6769418)
It will be over 9000 chapters before Naruo fights Sasuke again, he's still got the current boss to beat yet and a load all of the mini bosses before that.

i agree with u, but i cant help but think that Naruto's gonna use up all of Nine Tails' chakra...

Kenshin5 July 28th, 2011 6:02 PM

Spoiler:
Nagato with Itachi meeting Bee and Naruto is interesting to say the least. I am glad they showed the true story behind Garaa past. 1 Kage down 3 too go excluding Yagura. Mu vs. Onoki looks to be an interesting battle. Even though Onoki is old he has had years to develop new justu whereas Mu has been dead so there is nothing new that Onoki probably doesn't already know about him. Third Raikage looks like he is going to curb stomp a few people with that Lighting Armor, and I want to see the extent of Second Mizukage Yin Release.


Just copy and pasted what I said about last weeks Chapter.

Spoiler:
Itachi confirmed what Madara told Sasuke and Naruto and Co. I am curious as to what will come of the crow, we have waited over 100 chapters too see this. And I agree with Live, like I said earlier he needs to see Itachi before Itachi is sealed.


Naruto use up all his Ninetails Charka? He has a lot of Charka as does all tailed beasts. Not to mention he is related to the Younger son of the Rikudou Sennin, so he should also inherit a bit of charka from him since it was said he inherited the mas amount of Charka and Strength. And the battle is probably no where near too happening.

RASENCERO July 29th, 2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by -Lapras-
It will be over 9000 chapters before Naruo fights Sasuke again, he's still got the current boss to beat yet and a load all of the mini bosses before that.

I see what you did there.

Spoiler:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liver_Wire
That crow/"Special Power" that Itachi gave Naruto like 200 chapters ago finally showed up! :D I always wondered what it is, and what Itachi's plan is/ Hmmm.

I do hope that Naruto/B isn't forced to defeat Itachi yet, because he needs to see Sasuke still to clear up the situation and tell him the truth.

Agreed, I was also waiting for that.

Even if they are forced to defeat him, the only way to do that is to either seal him or making him happy or something. Eitherway, it is possible for Itachi to see Sasuke.

war rock exe August 3rd, 2011 1:06 PM

The newest chapter of Naruto is out and let me say this, "Oh how the tables have turned...."

Kevin August 4th, 2011 12:56 PM

Hehe something non-manga related.

The Ultimate Ninja Impact demo is out in Japan! I'm going to play it (the game looks pretty cool).

Anyone else interested in Impact? Oh and Storm Generations. I'm looking forward to that also.

war rock exe August 4th, 2011 7:07 PM

storm generations looks just like storm 2 to me.......

Livewire August 4th, 2011 7:59 PM

Spoiler:

Koto Amatsukami is a pretty badass name, and now we finally know about Shisui Uchiha. Wow.

Now wait a minute.

Danzo possessed Shisui's other eye. Does that mean Danzo could have used Koto Amatsukami? Well, he would have to have used the Mangekyou, which is possible- So can Kakashi. Something to consider.

And instead of Sasuke, it hit Itachi. So now Itachi will have to honor the 'protect Konoha' order, which means under this ultimate genjutsu he could possibly fight in the war alongside the Leaf. :D
Ooo, what a pensive post.

war rock exe August 6th, 2011 11:16 AM

i hope this is the part when naruto get the rinnegan

RASENCERO August 7th, 2011 4:10 PM

Doubtful.
Spoiler:
They just got Itachi at their side, so I think that will play along for a while.

war rock exe August 13th, 2011 4:17 PM

greeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaatttt more fillers.................

Kenshin5 August 13th, 2011 4:28 PM

Not like I didn't see that coming. They will probably have fillers going on until September if not longer.

Spoiler:
I am curious as too how Danzo got Shisui eye if his MS Sharingan was so strong. It's pretty awesome that Itachi is now part of the Allied Forces, but will Nagato also be able to be brought onto their side as well? And I am skeptical about the Koto Amatsukami actually convincing Sasuke to change his ways and come back to the Leaf Village. Naruto will probably say I don't want to do it this way and try and convince Sasuke to come back himself. And I wonder what they mean by Nagato becoming complete.

Winneon August 15th, 2011 6:41 PM

Samahada

Hello! I am a Pokemon AND a Naruto fan!
Favorite character is Sasuke: Kirin.

Kenshin5 August 15th, 2011 7:48 PM

Welcome to the Club Jalorda. I can't say I am a fan of Sasuke. But Kirin was a pretty beastly jutsu, too bad Itachi is all "Oh hey Sasuke I want to show you something called Susanoo!" The move is indeed strong but too much set up time for my taste.

Livewire August 15th, 2011 7:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 6802793)
Not like I didn't see that coming. They will probably have fillers going on until September if not longer.

Spoiler:
I am curious as too how Danzo got Shisui eye if his MS Sharingan was so strong. It's pretty awesome that Itachi is now part of the Allied Forces, but will Nagato also be able to be brought onto their side as well? And I am skeptical about the Koto Amatsukami actually convincing Sasuke to change his ways and come back to the Leaf Village. Naruto will probably say I don't want to do it this way and try and convince Sasuke to come back himself. And I wonder what they mean by Nagato becoming complete.


Hmmmm.
Spoiler:

Danzo may have used Izanagi from another Sharingan to get to Shisui, is my guess. Nothing else is powerful enough.

Nagato may have access to some of Naruto's abilities now? They are related, remember. My guess it has something to do with their lineage.


Kenshin5 August 15th, 2011 7:59 PM

Spoiler:
That's the only way I could see Danzo getting to Shisui if it's a one on one. Or he could have been ambushed by members of ROOT. I hope we get to see more of the back story of Shisui and Itachi leading up to the Uchiha massacre.

Yeah but they said Human Path right before he became "complete" which is one of Nagato Paths of Pain. So you think Nagato is drawing from Naruto tailed charka mode some how? Or what are you thoughts on it?

Winneon August 15th, 2011 8:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 6806510)
Welcome to the Club Jalorda. I can't say I am a fan of Sasuke. But Kirin was a pretty beastly jutsu, too bad Itachi is all "Oh hey Sasuke I want to show you something called Susanoo!" The move is indeed strong but too much set up time for my taste.

That is true, it takes some time to set up, but I looks cool and I always LOVED dragons. Also, (It's very powerful NSUNS2)

Livewire August 17th, 2011 8:07 PM

Spoiler:

Not too much going on this week, 'cept Nagato is sealed and finished off.

Although, I did find an interesting tidbit from Itachi:

"Every technique has a weakness"

I have a feeling Kabuto will figure this out the hard way. Also, we got to see a bit of his plan - he wants the remaining Jinchuuriki too. But what for?

Kenshin5 August 17th, 2011 9:48 PM

Spoiler:
OMG Itachi is a beast! Of course when you have Sword of Totsuka & Yata Mirror. Kind of funny how Naruto like "Oh really Itachi". I'm thinking geez what did Itachi teach you more in one battle then Jiraiya did in those entire three years.

And yes some how Kabuto tech is going to backfire. Which means his ace in the whole against Madara will be up in the air? And maybe he wants all the beasts so he can have Ten Tailed Beast for himself. Which for some reason I am kind of doubting that theory.

Livewire August 25th, 2011 8:17 AM

I will predict that next weeks chapter is going to be freaking insane.



Who's hand is that? Surely it can't be Naruto because it looks different and doesn't have a cuff like that, although it looks like the 9 tailed form with the wisps of fire look.

Kenshin5 August 25th, 2011 8:38 AM

Next weeks chapter should be good.

Spoiler:
I don't know who the Rasengan belongs to, but there are only 5 people that have been shown to use it Minato, Jiraiya, Kakashi, Naruto, and Konohamaru. So we could probably rule out Minto since he is already sealed, and if it is some how him then Kishi has a lot of explaining to do, Jiraiya(maybe Kabuto was alluding to him as his trump card), Naruto(he seems to be the most likely one), Kakashi(he is on another battle field dealing with the Seven Swordsman), Konohamaru(I don't know why the hell he would be here, more then likely if he joined the fray I think he'd be killed). So more then likely it's probably Naruto with Bee. I don't know if I was the only one that thought doing away with Shisui eye was pointless? Why bring then up if you are going to do away with it a few chapters later? I was kind of hoping Itachi would meet with Sasuke but it doesn't look like that will happen now since he is going after Kabuto, so maybe they will meet up before the end of this.

Livewire August 25th, 2011 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 6819212)
Next weeks chapter should be good.

Spoiler:
I don't know who the Rasengan belongs to, but there are only 5 people that have been shown to use it Minato, Jiraiya, Kakashi, Naruto, and Konohamaru. So we could probably rule out Minto since he is already sealed, and if it is some how him then Kishi has a lot of explaining to do, Jiraiya(maybe Kabuto was alluding to him as his trump card), Naruto(he seems to be the most likely one), Kakashi(he is on another battle field dealing with the Seven Swordsman), Konohamaru(I don't know why the hell he would be here, more then likely if he joined the fray I think he'd be killed). So more then likely it's probably Naruto with Bee. I don't know if I was the only one that thought doing away with Shisui eye was pointless? Why bring then up if you are going to do away with it a few chapters later? I was kind of hoping Itachi would meet with Sasuke but it doesn't look like that will happen now since he is going after Kabuto, so maybe they will meet up before the end of this.


The size of the rasengan though, made me think. It's huge. Maybe it is Jiraiya?

Kenshin5 August 25th, 2011 9:00 PM

Definitely not your standard that's for sure. Even though Kabuto said there were ones he couldn't recover cause he couldn't find the remains I am sure he lied like usual. For all we know Orochimaru could have stolen a sample of Jiraiya DNA a long time ago just encase something like this would ever happen. It would be hard for me to image Kabuto going to the bottom of the sea to get the remains. What I don't get is why aren't we back to the Kakashi fight? It's been what two months now? At least lets finish that up before we go forward and try and take out Kabuto. Then there is Madara and the Jinchuriki who left several weeks ago after them.

Cacttus August 27th, 2011 1:30 AM

Looking at the end chapter and the words " Has he arrived" one would think they're talking about Naruto because he's the only one just joining the battle, also looking at the fingers it looks like the Ninetails chakra, but that could also be from the person moving at a high speed.

Was Minato the one that came up with the technique or did someone teach it to him? I don't remember, I have a strong feeling it's Jiraiya

Kevin August 27th, 2011 6:19 AM

I'm pretty sure Minato was the one who created the Rasengan, fashioned after the Tailed Beast Ball. Everyone called it the 4th Hokage's Jutsu anyway (at least in the games but I'm sure they said that in one of the earlier episodes).

And once I read this chapter I was definitely guessing Jiraiya as Kabuto's trump card... But if someone else pops up it better be someone good.

war rock exe August 27th, 2011 6:41 AM

well i think its a not naruto, but idk who

Kenshin5 August 31st, 2011 2:42 PM

Shits about to go down ah snap!



Spoiler:
Chapter went by so quick. Starts off Narutos all he mummy dude Rasengan Tornado of Death! OHKO him but the guy has the new version of Sturdy so Onoki finished him off *bam* sealed. Kind of anti climatic if you ask me. Naruto all "Garaa stfu if I recall I saved you life and gave you your life back so ***** please, oh and who one the Chunin exam ME! Boo Yah!" I thought the funniest part was when Temari was talking about Wind Element users and her being the only one, I was thinking I bet Naruto is going to drop in then when he did was it was lulz time. So pending he defeated 3rd Raikage that's two Kages in one chapter that's more then you can say about Sasuke soloing Kage summit getting his ass handed to him by 4th Raikage, then Mizukage, along with Tsuchikage doing the finishing blow(which he was saved by Madara). Sasuke looks like he is ready to kick some ass and doesn't care who gets in his way. I mean really there is nothing to Sasuke character expect what seems like revenge on everything in existence. His sole purpose of surviving at this point it too destroy. Itachi probably would have did everyone a favor if he just killed Sasuke. Also this was another great chapter looking forward to next week for sure.

war rock exe September 1st, 2011 3:39 PM

i almost had a seizure staring a sasukes new sharingan: this is gonna get good :)

RASENCERO September 5th, 2011 3:58 AM

I just hope we don't have wait another year before we see anything good. I am curious about what his new powers are. This is the only second time in the whole ninja history that someone has an
Spoiler:
EMS
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Kenshin5 September 7th, 2011 7:56 AM

Spoiler:
Well I guess Naruto didn't take the Third Raikage out as fast as I thought he would. Guy seems to be a bit stronger then Fourth Raikage. The guy is such a beast to not even be phased by Wind Shuriken. Looks like Tailed Beast Bomb may conclude this, then they will shift the battle to whatever Garaa and Onoki is doing. And go figure they show Sasuke and probably won't get back too him in some time.

Weeaboo Name September 7th, 2011 8:47 AM

Yup beast Kamehameha coming next. I was just thinking how dull the manga is atm, at least it should look decent when the anime catches up.

war rock exe September 7th, 2011 5:46 PM

great........... more fillers........ Naruto's wasting chakra...........

Kenshin5 September 15th, 2011 1:04 PM

Spoiler:
Another Kage down thanks to Naruto, and of course himself. We get to see Sage Mode again woot woot! Garaa vs. Mizukage is going to look like a pain for him to say the least.

war rock exe September 15th, 2011 2:29 PM

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I wanna see some more sasuke!!!

Kenshin5 September 15th, 2011 2:34 PM

Then don't watch them. I haven't watched the anime since the episode with Naruto, Sakura, Ino, and Choji collecting medicine for the Shinobi Alliance. It's better then that crap like when Naruto faced Sasuke last time. All they did is pretty much show flashbacks of what happened prior, so I really don't care. And if you want to see Sasuke read the Manga, since he appeared 2 chapters prior to this weeks with EMS.

RASENCERO September 24th, 2011 4:35 AM

Yeah but its unlikely we see Sasuke again that soon. Though the fillers are annoying, the aren't all that bad. Some of them are quite entertaining.

war rock exe September 28th, 2011 8:38 AM

i told you guys that naruto would use all of the nine tails' chakra :P

RASENCERO October 6th, 2011 6:29 AM

You did XD
But damn,
Spoiler:
it was just a clone. D:

what's up with the new OP. It looks a bit.... weird. XD

war rock exe October 6th, 2011 7:48 AM

lol that's what i said when i saw the naruto clone


This latest chapter was pretty entertaining

AlfaTyrogue October 10th, 2011 4:41 AM

Samahada!!

I love samahada and
Spoiler:
I loved it even more when KillerBee got it!
KillerBee is my favourite character in all the series, cuz he's so cool and leaned back. He really is his own kind of guy!


I would like to see how he will use it in battle in the ninjawar...

Hey, this raises the question: What is your favourite Naruto character and why?

war rock exe October 11th, 2011 7:49 AM

Naruto: cuz he's beast now
In the beginning Kimmimaru was my fav., but now it's Naruto

AlfaTyrogue October 11th, 2011 10:02 AM

Why do you like Kimimaro? I think he was a pretty two dimensional character, but that was exactly what made me feel with him: He had no purpose whatsoever, so I really felt with him when he died for something not even worth it...
Bur that didn't really make him the best character, since I prefer three-dimensional and interesting characters over people like the sound four...

Kenshin5 October 11th, 2011 1:52 PM

Dieing for Orochimaru is completely worth it...

He was just a tool, all for we know Orochimaru was just as manipulative to him as he was with Anko giving him a sense of reason to live since Kimimaro family had him locked up most of his life. Not to mention they were all slaughtered anyways. They could have did more with his character but he was pretty much a failed vassal for Orochimaru and that was the extent of his character.

And I love Killer Bee, I have literally laughed out loud at his antics like when he put his head in that statue and pretended it bite his head off! Yamato freaked out cause of him that was probably one of not the funniest moment in Naruto.

Livewire October 12th, 2011 10:21 AM

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HOW WHAT WHEN WHERE ???/1111!!!!!!!



So the past two years of Naruto jut got thrown on it's head. So, who is the "real" Madara?


Theory #1


At the very least, we can be sure that the masked Madara is one of the Sage's descendants - either a Senju/Uzumaki or an Uchiha.


But, look at this line:

"When Madara finds Nagato's body, he sees that he is smiling even in death, which Madara interpreted as his continued betrayal. After closing Nagato's eyes, Madara teleports the body away to the pocket dimension. Madara returns to his hideout and replaces his blinded Sharingan with one of Nagato's Rinnegan, and gets a new arm, mask, and outfit. Kabuto complemented him on his efforts to gain new eyes, but Madara rebuffed the statement, claiming that they were his to begin with"

His to begin with? That struck me as some sort of ownership, sort of in the way a parent could feel towards a child or an heir.

Therfore:

The Sage of the 6 Paths has returned to undo what he never should have done in the first place - saved the world from the 10 Tails. He has seen how horrible the ninja world has become since then; so far from what he originally intended, and he would be disappointed with how his descendents have been doing things. Now, he's going to reform the beast and create the world anew as he wants, how it should have been. So, our masked Madara is in fact the Rikoudo Sage, in some shape or form.



Theory #2

Masked Madara is who we always thought he was. Obito, using the spectre of his more frightening ancestor to his advantage, survived the 3rd great war and is out for revenge.



Theory #3

Izuna Uchiha, Brother of Madara. Notice how masked Madara is incapable of MS Sharingan, so we could infer his eyes aren't his. Which is something we see a lof of from masked Madara, eye transplanting and stealing.


Theory #4

Shisui Uchiha. Koto Amatsukami would be able to fool Itachi and Danzo, as well as anyone else. The timeline for it's usage, every ten years or so, would mean it was used sometime after the Uchiha Massacre, 2-3 years after the Kyuubi attack. (so naruto and sasuke are 17, meaning 10 years before current shippuden time was when the jutsu was used last, which is more or less the same time as the massacre.)


Interesting tidbit:

Spoiler:
The resurrected Madara knows who Nagato is, meaning he wasn't killed by Shodai Hashirama, as Nagato wouldn't have been born for a few decades yet. Meaning he must have survived long enough into the reign of Sandaime, but that only backs up what Masked Madara said. So, who's telling the truth and who isn't?




Kenshin5 October 12th, 2011 1:06 PM

I support Theory 1 through 3. It just doesn't seem to me sensible to have Shisui as the Masked Madara.

1. I don't really see Masked Madara as Rikudo Sennin, sure he could try and make a fresh start but provoking a world wide war to do that is the answer? Naruto goes about unifying so I thinking Rikudo Sennin would have wanted to do the same but not with the cost of peoples life's to do so. It could have been a descendent implying they "should have been mine as birth right."

2. This theory is probably the oldest theory going around. Just curious how he would know all the back story to Madara and Izuna unless he read diaries or some manuscript of their stories. Much less the story of the Sage of Six Paths and his two sons. Which again could have been at an old old Uchiha hideout few knew about. I really wouldn't see Obito motivation either. I'd think his Sharigan would match Kakashi that was originally his but he did get his side crushed so maybe he replaced it was someone else.

3. Yeah I haven't see Masked Madara use the three basic MS moves but that doesn't mean he is incapable of using them.

I either think it's an Uchiha or descendent of the Sage, cause why would they throw in some outsider at this point. Itachi does mention I will show you a true wielder of the Sharigan so maybe this guy isn't a true wield implying he is not part of the clan or a relative like Naruto or Tsunade would be at least distant. So he couldn't use the Sharigan to its full capabilities. We have seen Kakashi use space rending MS Sharigan, but never the 3 basic MS techinuques.

What ever the case may be Kishi has some hell of plot twists that's for sure.

war rock exe October 12th, 2011 1:50 PM

now that i know that madara is dead i'm going nack to my original theory: Obito

AlfaTyrogue October 14th, 2011 7:33 AM

#1: I must agree with Kenshin. Though this would be a very great plot twist AND something Kishi might do, it's not at all logical.

#2: Guys, unless Obito came back from the dead, got a new half body, learned advanced space-time jutsu and grew to a grown-up man able do defeat the fourth Hokage in 2 YEARS, this theory is downright trash.
Kakashi was 12 when Obito died. He was 14 when the Kyubi attacked. I hope this is end of story.

#3: No. Izuna died. Izuna loved Konoha. Izuna just isn't the one, though that would make an interesting subplot with the two brothers.

#4: Shisui died. Shisui loved Konoha and could not have created Akatsuki. No.

The answer is
Spoiler:
KAGAMI UCHIHA.
He was a member of Danzos team.
He lived at the same time as the first and second hokage and therefore Madara too.
He might have had great respect to Madara and his philosophy, or might even have been related to him (father, uncle, something around those lines).
When Madara was banished from his clan and killed (or at least severely injured) Kagami swore upon his grave to revenge the Uchiha clan and all of Konoha.
Furthermore, his sensei was the second Hokage, famous for his strong time-space jutsu. He might have learned a few skills from him.

Nagato mentioned that Konoha started the second world war. Kagami started it through Danzo to weaken Konoha and it made him able to fake his own death in battle, only Danzo knowing him to be alive.
He then discovered, that a young man with Rinnegan had started a rebellion. He saw a chance of an important and easily conquerable ally.
With help from Danzo he made a conspiracy to truly awaken his Rinnegan (where Hanzo makes him kill Yahiko).
Whis is why he claims to have given him Rinnegan. He was responsible for the war that activated it AND helped to awaken it further.

Years later, Danzo offered him a deal; he gave him inside-knowledge about the nintales' host giving birth.
If Kagami destroyed Konoha, Danzo would become Hokage and make sure the Uchiha got a respectable position. Sinze this would both avenge Konoha AND restore the honor of Uchiha, he accepted.
Thus, he made the Kyubi attack Konoha and failed.

After this failure Danzo cuts the connection between them. Someone had to have given "Madara" inside knowledge so the elder were suspicious.
So Kagami builds up Akatsuki with help from Nagato in the following years. But he gets impatient! Konoha was at peace and had their guard down.
He contacts the Uchiha-clan under the name of Madara offering them a deal: They help him overtake Konoha or he would kill them. Whis would be a win-win for him.
The Uchiha clan, fearing the power of Madara, accepts.
Itachi and his friend Shisui, though, are still against it. Itachis father has to insist for the sake of his own sons life.
But Shisui confronts Kagami and Itachi watches him die or accidentally caused his death, activating his MS.
Kagami reveals his secret to Itachi and Itachi can either die or help him slaughtering the Uchiha in revenge. The panicking Itachi accepts.
He goes to the elders and tells them that the Uchiha were planning a coup de tat (sorry if I misspelled), while Kagami confronts Danzo.
Danzo hadn't told anyone about Kagamis secret, since his traitory would make it impossible for him to become Hokage.
Kagami threatens him with telling the Kages, and Danzo has to pull some strings sending Itachi on a mission to kill the Uchiha clan.
Kagami does most of the work while Itachi helps. But he can't kill his poor little brother. But he can't let him know the truth about Kagami either. He therefore tells him a story about him killing them himself for his own sake.

Now Pain, having destroyed the city, has avenged Konoha abuout enough, Kagami still isn't done. he has become a threat to the Shinobi alliance and he had become obsessed with power.

Now Kabuto figured Madaras identity out somehow (he had been in touch with Akatsuki, Konoha AND Orochimaru, so he could somehow put 2 and 2 together) and found the body of Madara (he might have been looking for it when he met Naruto before Sasuke and Itachis battle).
He threatens Kagami of revealing his secret to get close to him. He has become an irreplaceable and important ally giving him a secure position to start his plans:
He will show Sasuke the proof of Kagamis lies and tell the truth about how HE alone had been responsible for the slaughter of the Uchiha clan.
Sasuke with EMS, Plot no Jutsu AND all his hatred focused on one target, might be able to kill Kagami off or at least weaken him enough to allow Kabuto to finish the job.
Then Kabuto would be able to steal his Rinnegan and maybe his Sharingan, and get control of the entire army of Zetsus AND Edo Tensei zombies by himself.

Any questions?

war rock exe October 14th, 2011 7:49 AM

that could be a very good explanation, but remember when the bug guy infected Madara and he broke of his own arm? I suspect the White Zetsu has something to do with this

Livewire October 14th, 2011 8:13 AM

The only problem is that

Spoiler:
Kagami wasn't seen as an incredibly powerful ninja capable of controlling the nine tails and fighting off Hokages, and he's assumed dead too, according to Narutopedia. I doubt a character so central to the plot of the entire series would be someone who was featured in one flash back

war rock exe October 14th, 2011 8:19 AM

It would have to be an uchiha, because now that Madara is the the battle i hope something interesting happens

RASENCERO October 14th, 2011 11:39 AM

I don't know if it really has to be an Uchiha, but it was definitly predictable that he wasn't Madara. I doubt its Kagami, the theory seems to elaborate (not bad reasoning though). Usually its far less complicated and mysterious.

Kenshin5 October 14th, 2011 2:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AlfaTyrogue (Post 6888528)
#2: Guys, unless Obito came back from the dead, got a new half body, learned advanced space-time jutsu and grew to a grown-up man able do defeat the fourth Hokage in 2 YEARS, this theory is downright trash.
Kakashi was 12 when Obito died. He was 14 when the Kyubi attacked. I hope this is end of story.

#3: No. Izuna died. Izuna loved Konoha. Izuna just isn't the one, though that would make an interesting subplot with the two brothers.

Pretty sure Impure World Summoning restores them to when they were at their peak and the peak of Obito was as a little kid, which Masked Madara is clearly not in the form of a little kid. And I am pretty sure dead people wouldn't age so that wouldn't explain why Masked Madara would be an adult if he was Obito. He would have had to survived being crushed for this to even occur, and since they didn't recover his body there is that possibility. But again I don't see the motivation for all this bs.

As far as Izuna goes how do we know he loved Konoha? At the time the Uchiha were at war with the Senju so there wasn't much love going on around. For all we know instead Izuna giving his eyes to Madara it could have been the other way around or forced to give. Either way it could be a possibility.

I don't see why Kagami who was a sub character in Danzo flashback as a key antagonist and mastermind behind all this. Regardless of the explanation he doesn't seem any more likely then the ones Live first brought up.

Weeaboo Name October 15th, 2011 2:02 AM

Did anyone happen to see Bill Bailey's shirt on QI the other day?

I lol'd,

AlfaTyrogue October 15th, 2011 3:53 AM

Well no matter your thoughts, I still think the Kagami-theory is the best one around.
Or maybe... he actually IS a part of Madara... this Tobi character might have been the dark part of him still living wanting revenge against Konoha... so he actually speaks the truth...
But I think many people forget his statement about giving Nagato the rinnegan. That is still a mystery...

Honestly if I hadn't read any forums with theories I would be very, VERY surprised right now.
Masashi has actually built up a lot of suspense and mystery around this "Madara" since the war was about to begin.
His weird statements like giving Nagato Rinnegan and such plus his weird fetish for Sharingan-eyes...

Naruto has always been an awesome series, and Kishi knows that when responding to the fans like this it will be even better.

war rock exe October 15th, 2011 6:42 PM

well madara ISN'T an uchiha

AlfaTyrogue October 15th, 2011 11:56 PM

........ what?
Madara is an Uchiha. Hell, he was even one of the founders of the clan. He obviously has Sharingan and the masked version has too.
So why do you suddenly conclude that he's not? Where did you get that?

war rock exe October 16th, 2011 7:26 AM

Plot twist..? Im talking about the dude in the mask that supposedly ISN'T madara

Kenshin5 October 16th, 2011 9:16 AM

Just cause the masked Madara has Sharigan doesn't make him an Uchiha considering Kakashi has a Sharigan and MS Sharigan and he is not Uchiha so I wouldn't rule out that possibility. Now obviously the Madara Uchiha resurrected has with out a doubt Uchiha.

war rock exe October 16th, 2011 2:20 PM

Now i cant wait for the chapters to come: i bet when madara's true identity is reavealed we will all say, "OHHHHHH THAT MAKES SINCE!!!"

Livewire October 17th, 2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 6891437)
Just cause the masked Madara has Sharigan doesn't make him an Uchiha considering Kakashi has a Sharigan and MS Sharigan and he is not Uchiha so I wouldn't rule out that possibility. Now obviously the Madara Uchiha resurrected has with out a doubt Uchiha.

Remember Masked Madara has that entire lab full of Sharingan. Until we see a Mangekyou from him I will have my doubts as to who he really is. A MS from him would reveal an awful lot.

Regardless of who he is, the guys' got balls. He attacked Konoha when it had a younger, more powerful Sarutobi in addition to Minato.

Kenshin5 October 17th, 2011 10:58 AM

He is the REAL Orochimaru xD.

Yeah I wouldn't want to attack the village with two Kages one in his prime and one in Hiruzen who is said to be one of the strongest if not the strong Kages of all time(just look how he stood up to Orchimaru,Hashirama, Tobimaru). I mean damn two Kages and a Sennin at your late 60s. And of course he has all those Sharigan no thanks to the attack on the Uchiha with him and Itachi.

Rinna October 17th, 2011 11:59 AM

A friend of a friend believes Tobidara = Minato for some reason. PM me for details, I have to ask my friend again.

I think Tobidara is a Zetsu Clone of Madara. Maybe Madara used Izanagi when fighting Hashirama. That would explain why he doesn't have EMS. (he used the eyes he has stockpiled for Konan fight). It would still explain why Madara was Edo'd since Tobidara isn't really him, but a clone.

Kenshin5 October 17th, 2011 6:11 PM

Minato as Akatsuki leader theory has been going on for years even before Pain was introduced.

I could see how he maybe have used Izanagi, but I dunno if he actually used his own eyes to do so. Too me the benefits of EMS out weigh the benefits and draw backs of Izanagi, so I wouldn't interchange the two.

So your saying the Masked Madara is a Zetsu clone with the DNA of Madara? Or something like that.

Livewire October 19th, 2011 10:33 AM

OMFG

Spoiler:



Look at his expression. Madara has this sort of sad, upset look on his face. But we can infer the person he's referencing is extremely powerful. But who? If Madara was able to claim his birthright and reach the Rinnegan, then who could feasibly be even more powerful than him?

Also, the way Madara and Muu are talking indicates that this isn't the first allied Shinobi army.

As as guessed, the Sharingan is a derivative of the Rinnegan, and therefore a powerful enough sharingan user, who has an EMS, can upgrade to the Rinnegan as the final evolution of the eye. This is why Orochimaru desired a sharingan - he wanted the God-like abilities of the Rinnegan and evidently, Orochimaru figured this out. How much does he know?

And what does this say about other characters? Shodai Hashirama defeated and still presumably killed Madara with THE RINNEGAN. Just how incredibly powerful was he, and the rest of the Hokages?

And Jesus, Madara throws asteroids at people.

Rinna October 19th, 2011 10:52 AM

Madara cast Meteor! :o

But we're not sure if Madara awakened Rinnegan before or after the VotE fight. He did meet Nagato at one point.

Livewire October 19th, 2011 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6895590)
Madara cast Meteor! :o

But we're not sure if Madara awakened Rinnegan before or after the VotE fight. He did meet Nagato at one point.

"I awakened these eyes shortly before I died"

Assuming that the traditional story is still true, he fought Hashirama at VotE with both the Nine-tails and the Rinnegan.

Rinna October 19th, 2011 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6895631)


"I awakened these eyes shortly before I died"

Assuming that the traditional story is still true, he fought Hashirama at VotE with both the Nine-tails and the Rinnegan.

Where did it say he fought with Rinnegan? I was thinking he survived the VotE, and awakened Rinnegan sometime afterward. Or awakened it during the fight.

Kenshin5 October 19th, 2011 5:23 PM

I don't see it stated anywhere that he fought Hashirama with Rinnegan. And I really wouldn't underrate Hashirama even if Madara had Rinnegan at the time. Since both were descendents of the Younger and Old Brothers respectively. Hashirama Mokuton seems to be unparalleled compared to it's successors which were inferior i.e. Yamato, Danzo, Zetsu. Maybe Kubuto still has plans for Yamato as some point. I'm just wondering how much conciseness Kabuto is actually retaining, I feel Orochimaru will show up again at some point. And I wonder who this "Him" is. Assuming it's the Masked Madara.

Also, the way Madara and Muu are talking indicates that this isn't the first allied Shinobi army.
Well there was clan alliances before the foundation of villages so that could have been a precursor to the modern day Allied Forces.

All in all I have got to see Madara is just about as close to perfect in technique as you will get out of a shinobi. They are going to be pretty screwed if they can't find something to defeat him. Either Naruto is going to have to get some power ups again(either the "Strength" of the Younger Brother, maybe just maybe develop some secret Kekkei Genkai drawing it's roots back to his distant ancestors, or like I have said before awaken his own Rinnegan since his Tailed Beast Mode kind of draws comparisons to the silhouette of the Sage of Six paths.) Either that or Itachi is going to have to intercede at some point.

Livewire October 19th, 2011 5:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6895662)
Where did it say he fought with Rinnegan? I was thinking he survived the VotE, and awakened Rinnegan sometime afterward. Or awakened it during the fight.



Right there.

I also think the modification Kabuto made isn't the Rinnegan, as Madara clearly says Kabuto didn't create this power.

Rinna October 19th, 2011 9:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6896234)




Right there.

I also think the modification Kabuto made isn't the Rinnegan, as Madara clearly says Kabuto didn't create this power.

Yeah, but it could also mean he barely survived VotE and got it sometime between that and finding Nagato. I'm just confused as to if he fought First Hokage with the Rinnegan or just with Kyuubi, awakening it during or after.

war rock exe October 20th, 2011 9:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 6896185)
I don't see it stated anywhere that he fought Hashirama with Rinnegan. And I really wouldn't underrate Hashirama even if Madara had Rinnegan at the time. Since both were descendents of the Younger and Old Brothers respectively. Hashirama Mokuton seems to be unparalleled compared to it's successors which were inferior i.e. Yamato, Danzo, Zetsu. Maybe Kubuto still has plans for Yamato as some point. I'm just wondering how much conciseness Kabuto is actually retaining, I feel Orochimaru will show up again at some point. And I wonder who this "Him" is. Assuming it's the Masked Madara.

Also, the way Madara and Muu are talking indicates that this isn't the first allied Shinobi army.
Well there was clan alliances before the foundation of villages so that could have been a precursor to the modern day Allied Forces.

All in all I have got to see Madara is just about as close to perfect in technique as you will get out of a shinobi. They are going to be pretty screwed if they can't find something to defeat him. Either Naruto is going to have to get some power ups again(either the "Strength" of the Younger Brother, maybe just maybe develop some secret Kekkei Genkai drawing it's roots back to his distant ancestors, or like I have said before awaken his own Rinnegan since his Tailed Beast Mode kind of draws comparisons to the silhouette of the Sage of Six paths.) Either that or Itachi is going to have to intercede at some point.

I'm hoping that naruto DOES get the rinnegan, but i bet Itachi's going to show up

annhu2011 October 25th, 2011 9:32 PM

Hi, I'm new here and I love Naruto!!!

war rock exe October 26th, 2011 8:41 AM

ARG, no new Naruto until tomorrow....

Rinna October 26th, 2011 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by war rock exe (Post 6896910)
I'm hoping that naruto DOES get the rinnegan, but i bet Itachi's going to show up

I doubt Naruto will. He's descended (did I spell that right?) from the younger of the brothers. So, he's the body/chakra of Rikudo.

Sasuke is more likely to get Rinnegan, since he's descended from the elder brother, so he gets the eyes of Rikudo.

war rock exe October 27th, 2011 8:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6905507)
I doubt Naruto will. He's descended (did I spell that right?) from the younger of the brothers. So, he's the body/chakra of Rikudo.

Sasuke is more likely to get Rinnegan, since he's descended from the elder brother, so he gets the eyes of Rikudo.


Ya, but that work suck if Sasuke does.... :(

THE 5 KAGES ARE GONNA DIE!!!!! NINE TAILS VS MADARA!!!

Kenshin5 October 27th, 2011 12:39 PM

So much for the user of spoilers anyone...

Spoiler:
If Madara can use Mokuton, which was a characteristic of the Younger Brother line then I can't see why Naruto can't use Rinnegan. After all Nagato was an Uzumaki like Naruto. So if they can have both then I wouldn't rule out the character the series is based on to get these insane power ups. He is supposed to be the Child of Prophecy of course he will get some awesome power ups.

Rinna October 27th, 2011 1:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 6906243)
So much for the user of spoilers anyone...

Spoiler:
If Madara can use Mokuton, which was a characteristic of the Younger Brother line then I can't see why Naruto can't use Rinnegan. After all Nagato was an Uzumaki like Naruto. So if they can have both then I wouldn't rule out the character the series is based on to get these insane power ups. He is supposed to be the Child of Prophecy of course he will get some awesome power ups.

Spoiler:
He had Mokuton because he somehow got it from Hashirama. That doesn't explain that Naruto will get Rinnegan. Nagato got it from Madara (somehow). So, it technically still fits. Either way, we can't assume too much because we lack proper evidence. Child of Prophecy or not, I get the feeling that the final Sasuke vs. Naruto will be a Older Brother vs. Younger Brother fight; Eyes vs. Body. Whatever the case, it will be epic either way

war rock exe October 28th, 2011 7:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6906318)
Spoiler:
He had Mokuton because he somehow got it from Hashirama. That doesn't explain that Naruto will get Rinnegan. Nagato got it from Madara (somehow). So, it technically still fits. Either way, we can't assume too much because we lack proper evidence. Child of Prophecy or not, I get the feeling that the final Sasuke vs. Naruto will be a Older Brother vs. Younger Brother fight; Eyes vs. Body. Whatever the case, it will be epic either way


He didn't get it from Hashirama: it's in his blood-line....

Rinna October 28th, 2011 9:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by war rock exe (Post 6907279)
He didn't get it from Hashirama: it's in his blood-line....

Spoiler:
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/23677185/9
That is potential evidence that Madara gained Mokuton after VotE. Mokuton is a Senju trait.

war rock exe October 31st, 2011 7:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6907418)
Spoiler:
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/23677185/9
That is potential evidence that Madara gained Mokuton after VotE. Mokuton is a Senju trait.

Yes but Sasuke could very well have the same thing because it's in his blood line

Rinna October 31st, 2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by war rock exe (Post 6910792)
Yes but Sasuke could very well have the same thing because it's in his blood line

No where is it stated Sasuke is Madara's grandson or anything, though it is possible. Unless Madara is his direct ancestor, Sasuke can't inherit anything from Madara.

annhu2011 October 31st, 2011 6:53 PM

on Naruto Manga 561 now~ some boring anyway...

war rock exe November 1st, 2011 7:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6911069)
No where is it stated Sasuke is Madara's grandson or anything, though it is possible. Unless Madara is his direct ancestor, Sasuke can't inherit anything from Madara.


-.- i never said anything about Sasuke being Madara's granson.... They ARE related: they both share the last name Uchiha, they both have the sharingan, and they both awaken their EMS

Rinna November 3rd, 2011 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by war rock exe (Post 6912002)
-.- i never said anything about Sasuke being Madara's granson.... They ARE related: they both share the last name Uchiha, they both have the sharingan, and they both awaken their EMS

Just because they share a last name doesn't mean he is directly related to Madara. They are related, yes, but no one knows the exact relation. Sasuke only inherited the Uchiha birthright.

I have the last name of Johnson, that doesn't mean I'm related to Becky Johnson from down the street.

It IS different in Naruto, but unless Sasuke is directly related to Madara (son, grandson, etc.) he can't share the Mokuton DNA since it was unique to Madara as
Spoiler:
he got it at the VotE from Hashirama
.

The EMS doesn't mean anything for relation. EMS is awakened by transplanting another's MS to yourself. It's not selective on who'll get it.

tinatinaww2 November 3rd, 2011 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynic Kaka (Post 5951706)
Currently, I'm on Chapter 306.

My favorite character is Kiba. Or Shikamaru.

i like Shikamaru too!! O(∩_∩)O

Snivy063 November 4th, 2011 12:37 AM

Hello, I'm a fan of this anime, so I'd like to join you guys, if I may? :33

My favorite character would be Sakura or Tsunade, they're somewhat my type. XD ;;

Livewire November 5th, 2011 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6914865)
Just because they share a last name doesn't mean he is directly related to Madara. They are related, yes, but no one knows the exact relation. Sasuke only inherited the Uchiha birthright.

I have the last name of Johnson, that doesn't mean I'm related to Becky Johnson from down the street.

It IS different in Naruto, but unless Sasuke is directly related to Madara (son, grandson, etc.) he can't share the Mokuton DNA since it was unique to Madara as
Spoiler:
he got it at the VotE from Hashirama
.

The EMS doesn't mean anything for relation. EMS is awakened by transplanting another's MS to yourself. It's not selective on who'll get it.


True, but they're blood relatives. They derive their ancestry from the same point, the Uchiha ancestor/Older son of the sage.


also:

Spoiler:
I'd be willing to bet that Onoki, A and Tsunade all die and hand things over to a new generation of Kage, sometime soon. Onoki in particular. Buy Naruto enough time to retreat, as this isn't the final confrontation.

alisaie November 5th, 2011 11:37 PM

I'm not sure how blood relatives work in any way, but since Madara was basically the first Uchiha, Sasuke connects to him somewhere down the line, either distant or as a closer relative. I'm not sure how open the Uchihas would have been on heritage though, or else Itachi and Sasuke might have known just how close they were to Madara in terms of blood.

But what the hell do I know. I just got back into Naruto, eh-heh.

Spoiler:
It'll be a miracle if that Onoki survives this battle, considering his state. I'm going to be quite saddened if A, and even more so Tsunade dies during the fight though. It wouldn't be too surprising though.


Oh yeah I'm joining, Samahada. and yes, I posted after Live on purpose.

Rinna November 5th, 2011 11:56 PM

@ Sensei and BP

I still HIGHLY doubt Sasuke will pop wood. Mokuton is a younger brother trait, AKA Senju.

Spoiler:
Yeah, I see losses here. Oonoki (who my brother calls Mario) especially. I just know this will be amazing. The Gokage vs. Uchiha Madara.

Livewire November 6th, 2011 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6918052)
@ Sensei and BP

I still HIGHLY doubt Sasuke will pop wood. Mokuton is a younger brother trait, AKA Senju.

Spoiler:
Yeah, I see losses here. Oonoki (who my brother calls Mario) especially. I just know this will be amazing. The Gokage vs. Uchiha Madara.

Oh I agree, Sasuke can't/won't perform Mokuton. I must have misread something here. @[email protected]

Rinna November 6th, 2011 1:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6918065)


Oh I agree, Sasuke can't/won't perform Mokuton. I must have misread something here. @[email protected]

war_rock_exe claims he can (or will) get it because it's "in his bloodline". Just because Madara got it from Hashirama, doesn't mean his descendants will get it.

Same with Naruto getting Rinnegan. He can't/won't because Rinnegan is an older brother trait.. Nagato retrieved it from Madara, explaining how he got it despite being from the Uzumaki clan.

RASENCERO November 6th, 2011 1:12 PM

The fake Madara you mean? And how did he get those in the first place?
Spoiler:
Apparently the rinnegan is the next stage of the EMS. Which makes sense because the uchiha come from the sage of six paths. Also, I think Kabuto implanted the first hokage's cells into Madara's body. He definitely said he did something special.

Rinna November 6th, 2011 1:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RASENCERO (Post 6919022)
The fake Madara you mean? And how did he get those in the first place?
Spoiler:
Apparently the rinnegan is the next stage of the EMS. Which makes sense because the uchiha come from the sage of six paths. Also, I think Kabuto implanted the first hokage's cells into Madara's body. He definitely said he did something special.

Spoiler:
But Madara said he got some of Hashirama's power after VotE. That would mean he received Mokuton then.

Kenshin5 November 6th, 2011 5:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snivy063 (Post 6915556)
Hello, I'm a fan of this anime, so I'd like to join you guys, if I may? :33

My favorite character would be Sakura or Tsunade, they're somewhat my type. XD ;;

Welcome to the Club. I can't say I am entirely fond with Sakura, but I like Tsunade from what I have seen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6917997)



True, but they're blood relatives. They derive their ancestry from the same point, the Uchiha ancestor/Older son of the sage.


also:

Spoiler:
I'd be willing to bet that Onoki, A and Tsunade all die and hand things over to a new generation of Kage, sometime soon. Onoki in particular. Buy Naruto enough time to retreat, as this isn't the final confrontation.

Spoiler:
I'm only seeing Onoki dieing if any. A and Tsunade are the generation of past Onoki(if anything A is a generation past Tsunade albeit by a couple years since she is 54, and he is probably in his early 40s since Bee is 35). If they do end up dieing the possible replacements for Onoki would be Kitsuchi or Kurotsuchi, Raikage either Bee or Darui, for Hokage Kakashi, Naruto, Shikaku, or Shikamaru. I think Itachi is going to fight Kabuto soon which may end the mass Impure World Summoning. Which means Madara threat is over for the time being. Although Tobi saw how he uses the technique first hand so he may be able to replicate it if need be.


Quote:

Originally Posted by BinaryPeaches (Post 6918015)
I'm not sure how blood relatives work in any way, but since Madara was basically the first Uchiha, Sasuke connects to him somewhere down the line, either distant or as a closer relative. I'm not sure how open the Uchihas would have been on heritage though, or else Itachi and Sasuke might have known just how close they were to Madara in terms of blood.

But what the hell do I know. I just got back into Naruto, eh-heh.

Spoiler:
It'll be a miracle if that Onoki survives this battle, considering his state. I'm going to be quite saddened if A, and even more so Tsunade dies during the fight though. It wouldn't be too surprising though.


Oh yeah I'm joining, Samahada. and yes, I posted after Live on purpose.

The Older son of the Rikudo Sennin is essentially the first Uchiha. Or at least his descendents where, so I am sure that Madara was a couple generations off from either Rikudo or the older son.

Yeah I am not feeling to great for Onoki situation, so we may be seeing the end of him.

Welcome to the Club btw.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6918052)
@ Sensei and BP

I still HIGHLY doubt Sasuke will pop wood. Mokuton is a younger brother trait, AKA Senju.

Spoiler:
Yeah, I see losses here. Oonoki (who my brother calls Mario) especially. I just know this will be amazing. The Gokage vs. Uchiha Madara.

LOL Pop Wood(sorry I couldn't resist). I don't see Mokuton being utilized by Sasuke either. But perhaps Naruto some how is able to use it?

alisaie November 6th, 2011 6:25 PM

Yeah, I think I misread something along the lines as well. Mokuton won't at all will be something Sasuke can use. Not sure how Naruto would be able to use it either. I mean.. if Tsunade, who is the granddaughter of Senju, can't seem to use it/has never been seen using Mokuton, then I don't see how any others would be able to unless they got the DNA, tbh. Unless I missed something or forgot something.

Kenshin5 November 6th, 2011 6:28 PM

Uzumaki Clan are distant relatives of Senju, so who knows how close they are in relation to the Younger Son.

Livewire November 6th, 2011 8:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 6919430)
Uzumaki Clan are distant relatives of Senju, so who knows how close they are in relation to the Younger Son.

From what it seems, It would appear the Uzumaki clan's traits mirror the younger sons just as much, if not more, than the Senju. They're also distant blood relatives, which changes things a bit. Distant relatives is one thing, but distant blood relatives implies that they're much closer. Distant blood relatives would be a maternal aunt, uncle, cousin, etc. They still come from the same source.


Quote:

He inherited the Sage's "body", willpower and physical energy and believed that love was the key to peace.
Mito Uzumaki lived until the reign of Sarutobi, and Kushina survived the extraction of a tailed beast, which even by Naruto standards, is incredible. Now granted, Tsunade's shown incredible physical stamina too, but we've only seen one instance from her. (The Creation Rebirth that shielded the Konoha villagers during Pein's invasion) She's an Uzumaki too though, by definition of Mito being her grandmother. We don't have a living Senju by which to judge.

Exzessiva November 9th, 2011 8:16 AM

Hello I am Exzessiva. Naruto is my favorite manga and so I want to join this group!

war rock exe November 9th, 2011 9:57 AM

After reading this week's episode, i'm hoping the the real Madara kills the 5 Kages...

Exzessiva November 9th, 2011 11:21 AM

Mei's lava release is a beast and Onoki's and Raikage's teamwork is a sure win. Also I like the fact that Tsunade healed Onoki and Gaara in the starting. Just as expected from her!
The fight is getting more interesting xD

Also I lol'ed at Naruto and Tobi's head to head clash in the last panel. Tobi's mask almost cracked ! :D

war rock exe November 10th, 2011 8:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exzessiva (Post 6922941)
Mei's lava release is a beast and Onoki's and Raikage's teamwork is a sure win. Also I like the fact that Tsunade healed Onoki and Gaara in the starting. Just as expected from her!
The fight is getting more interesting xD

Also I lol'ed at Naruto and Tobi's head to head clash in the last panel. Tobi's mask almost cracked ! :D

does it look like the role of the 5 kages is coming to and end to you? It seems that way to me


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