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As far as Izuna goes how do we know he loved Konoha? At the time the Uchiha were at war with the Senju so there wasn't much love going on around. For all we know instead Izuna giving his eyes to Madara it could have been the other way around or forced to give. Either way it could be a possibility. I don't see why Kagami who was a sub character in Danzo flashback as a key antagonist and mastermind behind all this. Regardless of the explanation he doesn't seem any more likely then the ones Live first brought up. |
Did anyone happen to see Bill Bailey's shirt on QI the other day?
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Well no matter your thoughts, I still think the Kagami-theory is the best one around.
Or maybe... he actually IS a part of Madara... this Tobi character might have been the dark part of him still living wanting revenge against Konoha... so he actually speaks the truth... But I think many people forget his statement about giving Nagato the rinnegan. That is still a mystery... Honestly if I hadn't read any forums with theories I would be very, VERY surprised right now. Masashi has actually built up a lot of suspense and mystery around this "Madara" since the war was about to begin. His weird statements like giving Nagato Rinnegan and such plus his weird fetish for Sharingan-eyes... Naruto has always been an awesome series, and Kishi knows that when responding to the fans like this it will be even better. |
well madara ISN'T an uchiha
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Madara is an Uchiha. Hell, he was even one of the founders of the clan. He obviously has Sharingan and the masked version has too. So why do you suddenly conclude that he's not? Where did you get that? |
Plot twist..? Im talking about the dude in the mask that supposedly ISN'T madara
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Just cause the masked Madara has Sharigan doesn't make him an Uchiha considering Kakashi has a Sharigan and MS Sharigan and he is not Uchiha so I wouldn't rule out that possibility. Now obviously the Madara Uchiha resurrected has with out a doubt Uchiha.
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Now i cant wait for the chapters to come: i bet when madara's true identity is reavealed we will all say, "OHHHHHH THAT MAKES SINCE!!!"
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Regardless of who he is, the guys' got balls. He attacked Konoha when it had a younger, more powerful Sarutobi in addition to Minato. |
He is the REAL Orochimaru xD.
Yeah I wouldn't want to attack the village with two Kages one in his prime and one in Hiruzen who is said to be one of the strongest if not the strong Kages of all time(just look how he stood up to Orchimaru,Hashirama, Tobimaru). I mean damn two Kages and a Sennin at your late 60s. And of course he has all those Sharigan no thanks to the attack on the Uchiha with him and Itachi. |
A friend of a friend believes Tobidara = Minato for some reason. PM me for details, I have to ask my friend again.
I think Tobidara is a Zetsu Clone of Madara. Maybe Madara used Izanagi when fighting Hashirama. That would explain why he doesn't have EMS. (he used the eyes he has stockpiled for Konan fight). It would still explain why Madara was Edo'd since Tobidara isn't really him, but a clone. |
Minato as Akatsuki leader theory has been going on for years even before Pain was introduced.
I could see how he maybe have used Izanagi, but I dunno if he actually used his own eyes to do so. Too me the benefits of EMS out weigh the benefits and draw backs of Izanagi, so I wouldn't interchange the two. So your saying the Masked Madara is a Zetsu clone with the DNA of Madara? Or something like that. |
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Look at his expression. Madara has this sort of sad, upset look on his face. But we can infer the person he's referencing is extremely powerful. But who? If Madara was able to claim his birthright and reach the Rinnegan, then who could feasibly be even more powerful than him? Also, the way Madara and Muu are talking indicates that this isn't the first allied Shinobi army. As as guessed, the Sharingan is a derivative of the Rinnegan, and therefore a powerful enough sharingan user, who has an EMS, can upgrade to the Rinnegan as the final evolution of the eye. This is why Orochimaru desired a sharingan - he wanted the God-like abilities of the Rinnegan and evidently, Orochimaru figured this out. How much does he know? And what does this say about other characters? Shodai Hashirama defeated and still presumably killed Madara with THE RINNEGAN. Just how incredibly powerful was he, and the rest of the Hokages? And Jesus, Madara throws asteroids at people. |
Madara cast Meteor! :o
But we're not sure if Madara awakened Rinnegan before or after the VotE fight. He did meet Nagato at one point. |
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I don't see it stated anywhere that he fought Hashirama with Rinnegan. And I really wouldn't underrate Hashirama even if Madara had Rinnegan at the time. Since both were descendents of the Younger and Old Brothers respectively. Hashirama Mokuton seems to be unparalleled compared to it's successors which were inferior i.e. Yamato, Danzo, Zetsu. Maybe Kubuto still has plans for Yamato as some point. I'm just wondering how much conciseness Kabuto is actually retaining, I feel Orochimaru will show up again at some point. And I wonder who this "Him" is. Assuming it's the Masked Madara.
Also, the way Madara and Muu are talking indicates that this isn't the first allied Shinobi army. Well there was clan alliances before the foundation of villages so that could have been a precursor to the modern day Allied Forces. All in all I have got to see Madara is just about as close to perfect in technique as you will get out of a shinobi. They are going to be pretty screwed if they can't find something to defeat him. Either Naruto is going to have to get some power ups again(either the "Strength" of the Younger Brother, maybe just maybe develop some secret Kekkei Genkai drawing it's roots back to his distant ancestors, or like I have said before awaken his own Rinnegan since his Tailed Beast Mode kind of draws comparisons to the silhouette of the Sage of Six paths.) Either that or Itachi is going to have to intercede at some point. |
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Hi, I'm new here and I love Naruto!!!
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ARG, no new Naruto until tomorrow....
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Sasuke is more likely to get Rinnegan, since he's descended from the elder brother, so he gets the eyes of Rikudo. |
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Ya, but that work suck if Sasuke does.... :( THE 5 KAGES ARE GONNA DIE!!!!! NINE TAILS VS MADARA!!! |
So much for the user of spoilers anyone...
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