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Rinna October 27th, 2011 1:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 6906243)
So much for the user of spoilers anyone...

Spoiler:
If Madara can use Mokuton, which was a characteristic of the Younger Brother line then I can't see why Naruto can't use Rinnegan. After all Nagato was an Uzumaki like Naruto. So if they can have both then I wouldn't rule out the character the series is based on to get these insane power ups. He is supposed to be the Child of Prophecy of course he will get some awesome power ups.

Spoiler:
He had Mokuton because he somehow got it from Hashirama. That doesn't explain that Naruto will get Rinnegan. Nagato got it from Madara (somehow). So, it technically still fits. Either way, we can't assume too much because we lack proper evidence. Child of Prophecy or not, I get the feeling that the final Sasuke vs. Naruto will be a Older Brother vs. Younger Brother fight; Eyes vs. Body. Whatever the case, it will be epic either way

war rock exe October 28th, 2011 7:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6906318)
Spoiler:
He had Mokuton because he somehow got it from Hashirama. That doesn't explain that Naruto will get Rinnegan. Nagato got it from Madara (somehow). So, it technically still fits. Either way, we can't assume too much because we lack proper evidence. Child of Prophecy or not, I get the feeling that the final Sasuke vs. Naruto will be a Older Brother vs. Younger Brother fight; Eyes vs. Body. Whatever the case, it will be epic either way


He didn't get it from Hashirama: it's in his blood-line....

Rinna October 28th, 2011 9:39 AM

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Originally Posted by war rock exe (Post 6907279)
He didn't get it from Hashirama: it's in his blood-line....

Spoiler:
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/23677185/9
That is potential evidence that Madara gained Mokuton after VotE. Mokuton is a Senju trait.

war rock exe October 31st, 2011 7:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6907418)
Spoiler:
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/23677185/9
That is potential evidence that Madara gained Mokuton after VotE. Mokuton is a Senju trait.

Yes but Sasuke could very well have the same thing because it's in his blood line

Rinna October 31st, 2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by war rock exe (Post 6910792)
Yes but Sasuke could very well have the same thing because it's in his blood line

No where is it stated Sasuke is Madara's grandson or anything, though it is possible. Unless Madara is his direct ancestor, Sasuke can't inherit anything from Madara.

annhu2011 October 31st, 2011 6:53 PM

on Naruto Manga 561 now~ some boring anyway...

war rock exe November 1st, 2011 7:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6911069)
No where is it stated Sasuke is Madara's grandson or anything, though it is possible. Unless Madara is his direct ancestor, Sasuke can't inherit anything from Madara.


-.- i never said anything about Sasuke being Madara's granson.... They ARE related: they both share the last name Uchiha, they both have the sharingan, and they both awaken their EMS

Rinna November 3rd, 2011 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by war rock exe (Post 6912002)
-.- i never said anything about Sasuke being Madara's granson.... They ARE related: they both share the last name Uchiha, they both have the sharingan, and they both awaken their EMS

Just because they share a last name doesn't mean he is directly related to Madara. They are related, yes, but no one knows the exact relation. Sasuke only inherited the Uchiha birthright.

I have the last name of Johnson, that doesn't mean I'm related to Becky Johnson from down the street.

It IS different in Naruto, but unless Sasuke is directly related to Madara (son, grandson, etc.) he can't share the Mokuton DNA since it was unique to Madara as
Spoiler:
he got it at the VotE from Hashirama
.

The EMS doesn't mean anything for relation. EMS is awakened by transplanting another's MS to yourself. It's not selective on who'll get it.

tinatinaww2 November 3rd, 2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cynic Kaka (Post 5951706)
Currently, I'm on Chapter 306.

My favorite character is Kiba. Or Shikamaru.

i like Shikamaru too!! O(∩_∩)O

Snivy063 November 4th, 2011 12:37 AM

Hello, I'm a fan of this anime, so I'd like to join you guys, if I may? :33

My favorite character would be Sakura or Tsunade, they're somewhat my type. XD ;;

Livewire November 5th, 2011 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6914865)
Just because they share a last name doesn't mean he is directly related to Madara. They are related, yes, but no one knows the exact relation. Sasuke only inherited the Uchiha birthright.

I have the last name of Johnson, that doesn't mean I'm related to Becky Johnson from down the street.

It IS different in Naruto, but unless Sasuke is directly related to Madara (son, grandson, etc.) he can't share the Mokuton DNA since it was unique to Madara as
Spoiler:
he got it at the VotE from Hashirama
.

The EMS doesn't mean anything for relation. EMS is awakened by transplanting another's MS to yourself. It's not selective on who'll get it.


True, but they're blood relatives. They derive their ancestry from the same point, the Uchiha ancestor/Older son of the sage.


also:

Spoiler:
I'd be willing to bet that Onoki, A and Tsunade all die and hand things over to a new generation of Kage, sometime soon. Onoki in particular. Buy Naruto enough time to retreat, as this isn't the final confrontation.

alisaie November 5th, 2011 11:37 PM

I'm not sure how blood relatives work in any way, but since Madara was basically the first Uchiha, Sasuke connects to him somewhere down the line, either distant or as a closer relative. I'm not sure how open the Uchihas would have been on heritage though, or else Itachi and Sasuke might have known just how close they were to Madara in terms of blood.

But what the hell do I know. I just got back into Naruto, eh-heh.

Spoiler:
It'll be a miracle if that Onoki survives this battle, considering his state. I'm going to be quite saddened if A, and even more so Tsunade dies during the fight though. It wouldn't be too surprising though.


Oh yeah I'm joining, Samahada. and yes, I posted after Live on purpose.

Rinna November 5th, 2011 11:56 PM

@ Sensei and BP

I still HIGHLY doubt Sasuke will pop wood. Mokuton is a younger brother trait, AKA Senju.

Spoiler:
Yeah, I see losses here. Oonoki (who my brother calls Mario) especially. I just know this will be amazing. The Gokage vs. Uchiha Madara.

Livewire November 6th, 2011 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6918052)
@ Sensei and BP

I still HIGHLY doubt Sasuke will pop wood. Mokuton is a younger brother trait, AKA Senju.

Spoiler:
Yeah, I see losses here. Oonoki (who my brother calls Mario) especially. I just know this will be amazing. The Gokage vs. Uchiha Madara.

Oh I agree, Sasuke can't/won't perform Mokuton. I must have misread something here. @[email protected]

Rinna November 6th, 2011 1:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6918065)


Oh I agree, Sasuke can't/won't perform Mokuton. I must have misread something here. @[email protected]

war_rock_exe claims he can (or will) get it because it's "in his bloodline". Just because Madara got it from Hashirama, doesn't mean his descendants will get it.

Same with Naruto getting Rinnegan. He can't/won't because Rinnegan is an older brother trait.. Nagato retrieved it from Madara, explaining how he got it despite being from the Uzumaki clan.

RASENCERO November 6th, 2011 1:12 PM

The fake Madara you mean? And how did he get those in the first place?
Spoiler:
Apparently the rinnegan is the next stage of the EMS. Which makes sense because the uchiha come from the sage of six paths. Also, I think Kabuto implanted the first hokage's cells into Madara's body. He definitely said he did something special.

Rinna November 6th, 2011 1:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RASENCERO (Post 6919022)
The fake Madara you mean? And how did he get those in the first place?
Spoiler:
Apparently the rinnegan is the next stage of the EMS. Which makes sense because the uchiha come from the sage of six paths. Also, I think Kabuto implanted the first hokage's cells into Madara's body. He definitely said he did something special.

Spoiler:
But Madara said he got some of Hashirama's power after VotE. That would mean he received Mokuton then.

Kenshin5 November 6th, 2011 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Snivy063 (Post 6915556)
Hello, I'm a fan of this anime, so I'd like to join you guys, if I may? :33

My favorite character would be Sakura or Tsunade, they're somewhat my type. XD ;;

Welcome to the Club. I can't say I am entirely fond with Sakura, but I like Tsunade from what I have seen.

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6917997)



True, but they're blood relatives. They derive their ancestry from the same point, the Uchiha ancestor/Older son of the sage.


also:

Spoiler:
I'd be willing to bet that Onoki, A and Tsunade all die and hand things over to a new generation of Kage, sometime soon. Onoki in particular. Buy Naruto enough time to retreat, as this isn't the final confrontation.

Spoiler:
I'm only seeing Onoki dieing if any. A and Tsunade are the generation of past Onoki(if anything A is a generation past Tsunade albeit by a couple years since she is 54, and he is probably in his early 40s since Bee is 35). If they do end up dieing the possible replacements for Onoki would be Kitsuchi or Kurotsuchi, Raikage either Bee or Darui, for Hokage Kakashi, Naruto, Shikaku, or Shikamaru. I think Itachi is going to fight Kabuto soon which may end the mass Impure World Summoning. Which means Madara threat is over for the time being. Although Tobi saw how he uses the technique first hand so he may be able to replicate it if need be.


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Originally Posted by BinaryPeaches (Post 6918015)
I'm not sure how blood relatives work in any way, but since Madara was basically the first Uchiha, Sasuke connects to him somewhere down the line, either distant or as a closer relative. I'm not sure how open the Uchihas would have been on heritage though, or else Itachi and Sasuke might have known just how close they were to Madara in terms of blood.

But what the hell do I know. I just got back into Naruto, eh-heh.

Spoiler:
It'll be a miracle if that Onoki survives this battle, considering his state. I'm going to be quite saddened if A, and even more so Tsunade dies during the fight though. It wouldn't be too surprising though.


Oh yeah I'm joining, Samahada. and yes, I posted after Live on purpose.

The Older son of the Rikudo Sennin is essentially the first Uchiha. Or at least his descendents where, so I am sure that Madara was a couple generations off from either Rikudo or the older son.

Yeah I am not feeling to great for Onoki situation, so we may be seeing the end of him.

Welcome to the Club btw.

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Originally Posted by Kamiya-chan (Post 6918052)
@ Sensei and BP

I still HIGHLY doubt Sasuke will pop wood. Mokuton is a younger brother trait, AKA Senju.

Spoiler:
Yeah, I see losses here. Oonoki (who my brother calls Mario) especially. I just know this will be amazing. The Gokage vs. Uchiha Madara.

LOL Pop Wood(sorry I couldn't resist). I don't see Mokuton being utilized by Sasuke either. But perhaps Naruto some how is able to use it?

alisaie November 6th, 2011 6:25 PM

Yeah, I think I misread something along the lines as well. Mokuton won't at all will be something Sasuke can use. Not sure how Naruto would be able to use it either. I mean.. if Tsunade, who is the granddaughter of Senju, can't seem to use it/has never been seen using Mokuton, then I don't see how any others would be able to unless they got the DNA, tbh. Unless I missed something or forgot something.

Kenshin5 November 6th, 2011 6:28 PM

Uzumaki Clan are distant relatives of Senju, so who knows how close they are in relation to the Younger Son.

Livewire November 6th, 2011 8:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 6919430)
Uzumaki Clan are distant relatives of Senju, so who knows how close they are in relation to the Younger Son.

From what it seems, It would appear the Uzumaki clan's traits mirror the younger sons just as much, if not more, than the Senju. They're also distant blood relatives, which changes things a bit. Distant relatives is one thing, but distant blood relatives implies that they're much closer. Distant blood relatives would be a maternal aunt, uncle, cousin, etc. They still come from the same source.


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He inherited the Sage's "body", willpower and physical energy and believed that love was the key to peace.
Mito Uzumaki lived until the reign of Sarutobi, and Kushina survived the extraction of a tailed beast, which even by Naruto standards, is incredible. Now granted, Tsunade's shown incredible physical stamina too, but we've only seen one instance from her. (The Creation Rebirth that shielded the Konoha villagers during Pein's invasion) She's an Uzumaki too though, by definition of Mito being her grandmother. We don't have a living Senju by which to judge.

Exzessiva November 9th, 2011 8:16 AM

Hello I am Exzessiva. Naruto is my favorite manga and so I want to join this group!

war rock exe November 9th, 2011 9:57 AM

After reading this week's episode, i'm hoping the the real Madara kills the 5 Kages...

Exzessiva November 9th, 2011 11:21 AM

Mei's lava release is a beast and Onoki's and Raikage's teamwork is a sure win. Also I like the fact that Tsunade healed Onoki and Gaara in the starting. Just as expected from her!
The fight is getting more interesting xD

Also I lol'ed at Naruto and Tobi's head to head clash in the last panel. Tobi's mask almost cracked ! :D

war rock exe November 10th, 2011 8:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Exzessiva (Post 6922941)
Mei's lava release is a beast and Onoki's and Raikage's teamwork is a sure win. Also I like the fact that Tsunade healed Onoki and Gaara in the starting. Just as expected from her!
The fight is getting more interesting xD

Also I lol'ed at Naruto and Tobi's head to head clash in the last panel. Tobi's mask almost cracked ! :D

does it look like the role of the 5 kages is coming to and end to you? It seems that way to me


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