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StratusJm July 12th, 2010 6:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5961144)
It does...so I guess that we do have gyms, yay for gyms :)!

seconded! i love fighting gym leaders im like "haha in your face!!" when i beat them lol plus the honey comb place looks too awesome not to be a gym!!

Iceshadow3317 July 12th, 2010 6:56 AM

The roller coaster also had a gym like layout.

Angelroid July 12th, 2010 6:57 AM

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=5772&pictureid=44474
This is one of the Gym's.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 7:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelroid (Post 5961174)

Thanks for reminding me guys, I forgot about those two gyms :P
Once again Yay for gyms :):):)!

MistahDude July 12th, 2010 7:01 AM

Without gym leaders and the elite four its not a real pokemon game and I wont be playing it. They shouldn't take away the essentials. They can add fluff but they cannot take away the core.

Iceshadow3317 July 12th, 2010 7:02 AM

I wonder why we haven't gotten any new scans yet. Serebii said they exspect a lot more as the day goes on.

StratusJm July 12th, 2010 7:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5961181)
Without gym leaders and the elite four its not a real pokemon game and I wont be playing it. They shouldn't take away the essentials. They can add fluff but they cannot take away the core.

yes the whole point of pokemon is becoming the best trainer in the region so taking away gyms/ elite 4 would take away half the game

BeachBoy July 12th, 2010 7:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5961181)
Without gym leaders and the elite four its not a real pokemon game and I wont be playing it. They shouldn't take away the essentials. They can add fluff but they cannot take away the core.

While I believe they can certainly change a few aspects of gyms, I agree, the foundation itself should remain.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 7:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5961181)
Without gym leaders and the elite four its not a real pokemon game and I wont be playing it. They shouldn't take away the essentials. They can add fluff but they cannot take away the core.

True without the core (well the real core is pokemon but...yeah if you take away pokemon it's not a pokemon game any more :P) made up gyms the series might fall apart. I'm glad we kept our core :)

Calder July 12th, 2010 7:05 AM

I heard the honey thing is actually a smith... Gym music doesn't confirm gyms after all... I like random pop out-of-nowhere bosses in other games more than ones that broadcast it with a sign like a gym leader it takes more skill to fight a boss you don't expect coming than one you went to go see.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 7:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5961196)
I heard the honey thing is actually a smith... Gym music doesn't confirm gyms after all... I like random pop out-of-nowhere bosses in other games more than ones that broadcast it with a sign like a gym leader it takes more skill to fight a boss you don't expect coming than one you went to go see.

Well didn't they confirm that the Roller coaster was a gym so that mean gyms are in Isshu too :)

Iceshadow3317 July 12th, 2010 7:12 AM

Huin City reminds me a lot of Desteny Deoxys city....

Luck July 12th, 2010 7:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5961181)
Without gym leaders and the elite four its not a real pokemon game and I wont be playing it. They shouldn't take away the essentials. They can add fluff but they cannot take away the core.

HOW DARE THEY TRY TO CHANGE THE GAME?!

I guess you have a point though, since everyone already expects the generic evil team, crappy plot, gym/E4, a change like that would be pretty big.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 7:16 AM

Well I expect a good plot in these games so I hope you're wrong about the crappy plot Luck :)

StratusJm July 12th, 2010 7:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Luck (Post 5961229)
HOW DARE THEY TRY TO CHANGE THE GAME?!

I guess you have a point though, since everyone already expects the generic evil team, crappy plot, gym/E4, a change like that would be pretty big.

ya i dont mind different looking pokemon, older trainers, 3d whatever but no gyms would be a bit extreme

BeachBoy July 12th, 2010 7:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5961196)
I heard the honey thing is actually a smith... Gym music doesn't confirm gyms after all... I like random pop out-of-nowhere bosses in other games more than ones that broadcast it with a sign like a gym leader it takes more skill to fight a boss you don't expect coming than one you went to go see.

Hey, that's great, go play those games, but I highly doubt we'll see a change of heart concerning gyms. The random pop out of nowhere battles (or "boss" battles) are the rivals, so we still have some of that aspect.

Be in disbelief all you want, I think you'll be disappointed yet again.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 7:23 AM

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Originally Posted by StratusJm (Post 5961239)
ya i dont mind different looking pokemon, older trainers, 3d whatever but no gyms would be a bit extreme

My thoughts exactly.
I hope we get new scans soon.

Calder July 12th, 2010 7:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BeachBoy (Post 5961243)
Hey, that's great, go play those games, but I highly doubt we'll see a change of heart concerning gyms. The random pop out of nowhere battles (or "boss" battles) are the rivals, so we still have some of that aspect.

Be in disbelief all you want, I think you'll be disappointed yet again.

You do realize they could keep the stupid aspect of collect the 8 badges and fight the 4 dudes at the end and then the 1 big battle but just make the gym leaders randomly pop up... So yes they could fulfill both desires for gyms and random fights... If you are too afraid of gyms being random battles you could always get the guide and be prepared... It fulfills both aspects right there... Also I didn't start the no gyms thing I'm just saying I'm fine without gym leaders... If they stay the same fine... If they change it then fine...

StratusJm July 12th, 2010 7:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5961265)
My thoughts exactly.
I hope we get new scans soon.

ya i know a lot of people might say that i dont like change but ive loved all the changes so far this generation but if they take out gyms they might as well take out the evil team and the pokemon champion etc

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 7:37 AM

We know there is a champion as N mentioned something about one :)

BeachBoy July 12th, 2010 7:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5961322)
We know there is a champion as N mentioned something about one :)

Wait, where was it confirmed that N was the champion?

Luck July 12th, 2010 7:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5961289)
You do realize they could keep the stupid aspect of collect the 8 badges and fight the 4 dudes at the end and then the 1 big battle but just make the gym leaders randomly pop up... So yes they could fulfill both desires for gyms and random fights... If you are too afraid of gyms being random battles you could always get the guide and be prepared... It fulfills both aspects right there... Also I didn't start the no gyms thing I'm just saying I'm fine without gym leaders... If they stay the same fine... If they change it then fine...

It's not as much a matter of possibility as much as it is probability. Gamefreak could drop the "catch 'em all" and only give you rental pokemon in the main series, but will they? Unlikely.

StratusJm July 12th, 2010 7:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5961322)
We know there is a champion as N mentioned something about one :)

well hopefully that means gyms!! some of the puzzles are fun haha! except snowpoint gym in sinnoh was just headwrecking

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 7:43 AM

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Originally Posted by StratusJm (Post 5961343)
well hopefully that means gyms!! some of the puzzles are fun haha! except snowpoint gym in sinnoh was just headwrecking

I had trouble in that one too >_>.
Hope the champ is another girl :)

StratusJm July 12th, 2010 7:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5961350)
I had trouble in that one too >_>.
Hope the champ is another girl :)

i had to slide around for about 10 minutes to get to her! and everytime i revisit the gym just to see if i can do it it takes me another 10 minutes!!

me too cynthia was cool i liked her

Calder July 12th, 2010 7:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BeachBoy (Post 5961330)
Wait, where was it confirmed that N was the champion?

It wasn't confirmed as N as the Champion... N said there WAS a champion...

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Originally Posted by Luck (Post 5961340)
It's not as much a matter of possibility as much as it is probability. Gamefreak could drop the "catch 'em all" and only give you rental pokemon in the main series, but will they? Unlikely.

No Gym Leaders is more probable than Rentals... Just think they don't have to be gym leaders per say... They could be 8 people with a part of some device that open a magical door to narnia that the elite 4 and champions live in... They aren't changing what ice cream is just what flavor it is...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 7:57 AM

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Originally Posted by StratusJm (Post 5961366)
i had to slide around for about 10 minutes to get to her! and everytime i revisit the gym just to see if i can do it it takes me another 10 minutes!!

me too cynthia was cool i liked her

Yeah I hope she has high AI too and with perfect Iv'd and Ev'd pokemon :D

Calder July 12th, 2010 7:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5961395)
Yeah I hope she has high AI too and with perfect Iv'd and Ev'd pokemon :D

I hope all trainer's AIs are better... Thats one of the top wants on my list...

StratusJm July 12th, 2010 8:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5961395)
Yeah I hope she has high AI too and with perfect Iv'd and Ev'd pokemon :D

ya i want a challenge ha but IVs are just confusing

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 8:15 AM

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Originally Posted by StratusJm (Post 5961410)
ya i want a challenge ha but IVs are just confusing

Good thing we aren't calculating them ourselves :P. Yeah I really want the other trainers to have better AI too.

StratusJm July 12th, 2010 8:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5961467)
Good thing we aren't calculating them ourselves :P. Yeah I really want the other trainers to have better AI too.

yes we will leave that to the champion! ya and wild pokemon too im sick of them self-destructing/ teleporting

BeachBoy July 12th, 2010 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5961385)
It wasn't confirmed as N as the Champion... N said there WAS a champion...

Ohh okay, I get it now, thanks for the clarification.

And yes, I too want better AI. I think we've seen a slight increase in recent games, but a bigger boost would be nice.

MistahDude July 12th, 2010 8:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5961467)

Good thing we aren't calculating them ourselves :P. Yeah I really want the other trainers to have better AI too.

The AI is actually pretty good later on. They have it set at a low level at the beginning so the game isn't challenging.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 8:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5961478)
The AI is actually pretty good later on. They have it set at a low level at the beginning so the game isn't challenging.

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Originally Posted by BeachBoy (Post 5961474)
Ohh okay, I get it now, thanks for the clarification.

And yes, I too want better AI. I think we've seen a slight increase in recent games, but a bigger boost would be nice.

Yeah I would like to see an increase especially at the start of the game to make it more challenging at least.

Azure-Supernova July 12th, 2010 9:16 AM

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Originally Posted by StratusJm (Post 5961471)
yes we will leave that to the champion! ya and wild pokemon too im sick of them self-destructing/ teleporting

Indeed, that seems almost pointless (I get that Abra is a timid Pokémon, but I just sent out a level 2 Caterpie, it still insists on running away)

And oh for the love of all that is unholy revamp the AI! How many times have you gone into a battle and have the opponent win it for you?

[logic] Hmmm... I have one Pokémon left, my opponent has two... hmmm "Wheezing, use self destruct!"[/logic]

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 9:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Azure-Supernova (Post 5961689)
Indeed, that seems almost pointless (I get that Abra is a timid Pokémon, but I just sent out a level 2 Caterpie, it still insists on running away)

And oh for the love of all that is unholy revamp the AI! How many times have you gone into a battle and have the opponent win it for you?

[logic] Hmmm... I have one Pokémon left, my opponent has two... hmmm "Wheezing, use self destruct!"[/logic]

Well abra only knows one move in the wild so it has no choice but to teleport :P
Yeah I won several battles using that logic :P

Livewire July 12th, 2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 5957638)
Gonna post this again : /

Why is everyone saying it is based on Garuda without real proof?

It could just as easily be based on the Native American thoughts on the Eagle, FAR from the Hindu Garuda.

Evidence?
  • Well, a lot are saying that Isshu is based on New York to represent Americans in the Pokemon world. We had Eagles and Native Americans in America.
  • The name isn't even remotely the same as "Garuda," except the "oo" sound. The name just references "eagle" as far as we know, which means it could be anything.
  • The only evidence of it being a Garuda is comparisons with Digimon and their, get this, made-up color-scheme. The only thing we know of Garuda is that he has a golden human body and red wings, where the Pokemon in question looks far from humanoid and is more blue than golden.
  • The thing freaking looks like a headdress:
http://www.getreligion.org/wp-content/photos/2009/09/Hunkpapa_Lakota_Headdress-2005.03.27-04.34.04.jpg



Looks like Chiramii, the Chinchilla Pokemon.

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/7e/Chiramii.png

haha thank you for knowing your history. :) regardless, wooguru is the coolest 5th gen poke yet i think. it just looks awesome. i hope its really strong because ill be using it for sure

Iceshadow3317 July 12th, 2010 10:42 AM

Wargle is the name for the US name for Wooguru.

StratusJm July 12th, 2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Azure-Supernova (Post 5961689)
Indeed, that seems almost pointless (I get that Abra is a timid Pokémon, but I just sent out a level 2 Caterpie, it still insists on running away)

And oh for the love of all that is unholy revamp the AI! How many times have you gone into a battle and have the opponent win it for you?

[logic] Hmmm... I have one Pokémon left, my opponent has two... hmmm "Wheezing, use self destruct!"[/logic]



i actually loled at that ha!! and wild geodudes/ gravelleers have the exact same mentality "oh a trainer with a pokemon thats weaker than me! what are my options? earhtquake or self-destruct? i havent blown myself up in a while i think ill do that!!"

Haza July 12th, 2010 1:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman3317 (Post 5961935)
Wargle is the name for the US name for Wooguru.

It's only what English speakers have been calling him because of what the basis of the Japanese name is, which I think is just WRONG! They use the symbol of our country, throw on the colors of our flag, put a Native American headdress on and slap WAR in the name. Nice, and I think there is a social message in it :/

Azure-Supernova July 12th, 2010 1:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5962362)

It's only what English speakers have been calling him because of what the basis of the Japanese name is, which I think is just WRONG! They use the symbol of our country, throw on the colors of our flag, put a Native American headdress on and slap WAR in the name. Nice, and I think there is a social message in it :/

It seems to fit quite nicely...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 3:30 PM

There were a couple of native american tribes that were warring tribes...they might not be the one's in the us either they might be based on the natives of southern North America like the Aztec which were a warring people and wore headress with feathers as well :)

Haza July 12th, 2010 3:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5962946)
There were a couple of native american tribes that were warring tribes...they might not be the one's in the us either they might be based on the natives of southern North America like the Aztec which were a warring people and wore headress with feathers as well :)

I surely hope so, it's just that they used the colors of the American flag which sends a message of what they think this country is all about, but maybe I'm thinking to much into this.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 3:36 PM

I'm from Aztec origin so I kind of hope that it represents all natives :). Yeah the war part is kind of odd...

インフェルノの津波 July 12th, 2010 3:42 PM

Well....I must say, peoples posts are now making me hated at my local Starbucks.

I can say I like the nervous looking girl, and N looks like Silver, and finally....

Musharna is definitely going to evolve into some Dream/Nightmarish thingy.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 3:45 PM

Yeah a nightmare beast seems like a good pokemon well another since we already have Hypno and Darkrai :P

インフェルノの津波 July 12th, 2010 3:49 PM

All I need now is a Steel/Dark Pokemon and my life is complete, and I think we need another Mushroom Pokemon.

By the way, Wargle or Wooguru or whatever looks like Staraptor decided to et it's "Wild side".

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 3:54 PM

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Originally Posted by インフェルノの津波 (Post 5963004)
All I need now is a Steel/Dark Pokemon and my life is complete, and I think we need another Mushroom Pokemon.

By the way, Wargle or Wooguru or whatever looks like Staraptor decided to et it's "Wild side".

If that Dark/steel is a evolution of Mawile then my life would be complete too :P

Haza July 12th, 2010 3:56 PM

The chipmunk is pretty awesome looking to be the common rodent... I can't it's been completely ignored in this thread.

インフェルノの津波 July 12th, 2010 3:57 PM

Oh what, the chipmunk/meerkat? Yeah, looks pretty good, the Sentret of this game?

(And Sentret and this thing both look like they're based on rodents and meerkats.)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 4:01 PM

Yeah it does seem to meerkat / chipmunk based :P

Haza July 12th, 2010 4:02 PM

Ratatta, Sentret, Zigzagoon, Bidoof have all played that role and the Chipmunk is the next installment to the annoying rodent/Normal-Type family. I just hope it's evolved form doesn't ruin it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 4:04 PM

Me neither, hope it's a cool rabid Meerkat/chipmunk !

インフェルノの津波 July 12th, 2010 4:05 PM

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/192/5/f/OBEY_MINEZUMI__DESTROY_BIDOOF_by_Sklavenbrause.png

WUT DID YOU JUST SAY HAZA?!?!?

Haza July 12th, 2010 4:06 PM

It already looks rabid... but that's what I love about it LMAO.

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Originally Posted by インフェルノの津波 (Post 5963046)

I love you! That mad me crack up when I saw it!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 4:10 PM

Well it could grow huge claws and look more rabid :P!

Haza July 12th, 2010 4:17 PM

I want FOAM at the mouth!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 4:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5963076)
I want FOAM at the mouth!

Ha me too, it's pokedex classification will be : "The Rabi Pokemon" :P

Calder July 12th, 2010 4:28 PM

If he is the rodent of this generation the starter town must be built on alot of crack or something...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 4:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5963108)
If he is the rodent of this generation the starter town must be built on alot of crack or something...

It's has Rabbi's is what it has :P

Haza July 12th, 2010 4:38 PM

I was hoping that they'd show us the bug Pokemon that you'll be able to capture towards the beginning. I pray it's not the spider. Maybe next month.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 4:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5963138)
I was hoping that they'd show us the bug Pokemon that you'll be able to capture towards the beginning. I pray it's not the spider. Maybe next month.

Why not a spider?
I hope for a bug pokemon based on a blue butterfly :)

Calder July 12th, 2010 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5963142)
Why not a spider?
I hope for a bug pokemon based on a blue butterfly :)

I've had enough Butterflies as the bug beginner...I want a Firefly as the beginner... Hopefully with the Bug/Electric typing (instead of the Spider (Denchura) being that type) 3 stages Bug -> Bug -> Bug/Elec or just 2 stages Bug -> Bug/Elec

Haza July 12th, 2010 4:46 PM

Well we already know the spider, but usually the Bug-Types you get early on are basic types like Bug/Poison or Bug/Flying. Maybe another butterfly or even a mosquito or fly.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 4:47 PM

We could also have a Fire/bug firefly, that would be cool too :)

Calder July 12th, 2010 4:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5963170)
Well we already know the spider, but usually the Bug-Types you get early on are basic types like Bug/Poison or Bug/Flying. Maybe another butterfly or even a mosquito or fly.

Don't base things on what they did previous... Change isn't always bad...

Maybe Denchura's Prevo and Firefly's Prevo as the Bugs? They could always be Bug/Blah and turn into Bug/Elec and Bug/Fire...

Thinking about the typing of Elec and Fire thought could be that they are exclusives... Denchura's Bug/Elec on Pokemon Black as the Legend is Fire and Firefly's Bug/Fire on Pokemon White as the Legend is Elec...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 5:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5963202)
Don't base things on what they did previous... Change isn't always bad...

Maybe Denchura's Prevo and Firefly's Prevo as the Bugs? They could always be Bug/Blah and turn into Bug/Elec and Bug/Fire...

Thinking about the typing of Elec and Fire thought could be that they are exclusives... Denchura's Bug/Elec on Pokemon Black as the Legend is Fire and Firefly's Bug/Fire on Pokemon White as the Legend is Elec...

That would make sense...didn't they do something similar in a previous gen?

Calder July 12th, 2010 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5963202)
Don't base things on what they did previous... Change isn't always bad...

Maybe Denchura's Prevo and Firefly's Prevo as the Bugs? They could always be Bug/Blah and turn into Bug/Elec and Bug/Fire...

Thinking about the typing of Elec and Fire thought could be that they are exclusives... Denchura's Bug/Elec on Pokemon Black as the Legend is Fire and Firefly's Bug/Fire on Pokemon White as the Legend is Elec...

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5963236)
That would make sense...didn't they do something similar in a previous gen?

Yeah I'm not basing this on previous stuff like I said on that post <.<

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 5:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5963240)
Yeah I'm not basing this on previous stuff like I said on that post <.<

Yeah I know but it just sounded familiar is why I asked :P

Haza July 12th, 2010 5:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5963202)
Don't base things on what they did previous... Change isn't always bad...

Maybe Denchura's Prevo and Firefly's Prevo as the Bugs? They could always be Bug/Blah and turn into Bug/Elec and Bug/Fire...

Thinking about the typing of Elec and Fire thought could be that they are exclusives... Denchura's Bug/Elec on Pokemon Black as the Legend is Fire and Firefly's Bug/Fire on Pokemon White as the Legend is Elec...

It;s something that has been a staple since the very beginning just like the common bird, starters, and common rodent.

Kanto: Rattata, Pidgey, Caterpie, Weedle
Johto: Sentret, Hoothoot, Ledyba, Spinarak
Hoenn: Zigzagoon, Taillow, Wurmple (Beautifly, Dustox)
Sinnoh: Bidoof, Starly, Combe, Burmy?, and Kricketot
Isshu: Minezumi, Mamepato, ???, ???

They havent been anything but Bug, Bug/Flying, or Bug/Poison...

Calder July 12th, 2010 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5963330)


It;s something that has been a staple since the very beginning just like the common bird, starters, and common rodent.

Kanto: Rattata, Pidgey, Caterpie, Weedle
Johto: Sentret, Hoothoot, Ledyba, Spinarak
Hoenn: Zigzagoon, Taillow, Wurmple (Beautifly, Dustox)
Sinnoh: Bidoof, Starly, Combe, Burmy?, and Kricketot
Isshu: Minezumi, Mamepato, ???, ???

They havent been anything but Bug, Bug/Flying, or Bug/Poison...

That doesn't have an effect on this generation change can and will happen... You can't confirm the same staple...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 5:41 PM

Well they might decide to keep some of the old patterns like how they kept the pattern of the starters, and apparently the normal type and bird "starters"

Haza July 12th, 2010 5:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5963344)
That doesn't have an effect on this generation change can and will happen... You can't confirm the same staple...

I'm open to change, I'm just saying that so far the basics look like they are staying. It's the thing that lets you know you're playing a Pokemon game early on.

Calder July 12th, 2010 5:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5963355)
Well they might decide to keep some of the old patterns like how they kept the pattern of the starters, and apparently the normal type and bird "starters"

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5963372)


I'm open to change, I'm just saying that so far the basics look like they are staying. It's the thing that lets you know you're playing a Pokemon game early on.

Lotad was a starter Pokemon but it is a Grass/Water... Totally out there...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 5:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5963384)
Lotad was a starter Pokemon but it is a Grass/Water... Totally out there...

Lotad was available early on so it's the grass types secondary starter after the real starter :P. Also serves as a good pokemon to capture if you picked torchic instead of Mudkip, and treeko ;)

Haza July 12th, 2010 5:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5963384)
Lotad was a starter Pokemon but it is a Grass/Water... Totally out there...

And which of the staples that I pointed out does Lotad fit in?

Calder July 12th, 2010 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5963407)


And which of the staples that I pointed out does Lotad fit in?

The starting area one... With normals...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 6:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5963414)
The starting area one... With normals...

NO it doesn't it actually fit in with grass
Kanto:Vileplume line
Johto:Jumpluff's line
Hoenn:Lotad line
Sinnoh:?

CrimsonRex July 12th, 2010 6:24 PM

Wooguru looks interesting to me.

Planetes. July 12th, 2010 6:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5963460)
NO it doesn't it actually fit in with grass
Kanto:Vileplume line
Johto:Jumpluff's line
Hoenn:Lotad line
Sinnoh:?


Sinnoh's is Budew/Roselia/Roserade

Haza July 12th, 2010 6:40 PM

I think N is the good twin, which is why he has blue eyes, and N stands for Nature maybe, and the other one that looks like will have a similar name, to mean the opposite.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2010 6:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5963569)
I think N is the good twin, which is why he has blue eyes, and N stands for Nature maybe, and the other one that looks like will have a similar name, to mean the opposite.

A for artificial perhaps ;)

Zeturic July 12th, 2010 7:35 PM

Was it revealed that Minezumi is the new Rattata? I don't remember if it was.

If not, I'm hoping that it's not. I actually like it, and the starting "mammal"'s stats are always subpar. (But, I suppose that didn't stop me from using Linoone.)

Angelroid July 13th, 2010 12:07 AM

Koromori does have eyes, And the heart thing is a nose.

Mujahid July 13th, 2010 4:45 AM

idk if this has been posted yet but

http://pokebeach.com/news/0710/corocoro-new-batch.jpg




OMG THAT'S AN AEROPLANE IN THE 3RD SCREEN !!!!!!!!

Iceshadow3317 July 13th, 2010 4:54 AM

Huh it is. Didn't notice that. Good find.

sean777 July 13th, 2010 5:14 AM

Aeroplane :D :D :D kooooooooooooollll if thats in it this makes the game even more wantable this must mean that you can go to other regions :D

Iceshadow3317 July 13th, 2010 5:30 AM

New scans are up on Serebii. The 10th picture has lead me to bealeve that we are indeed getting new Eevee Evolutions.

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

Mana July 13th, 2010 6:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman3317 (Post 5964520)
New scans are up on Serebii. The 4th picture has lead me to bealeve that we are indeed getting new Eevee Evolutions.

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

Eeee it does!!

Also, it looks like there might be a place to evolve Leafeon and Glaceon since it shows one of them? I hope so <<

Iceshadow3317 July 13th, 2010 6:09 AM

Yes I really hope so.....................................................................

filler

StratusJm July 13th, 2010 6:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman3317 (Post 5964520)
New scans are up on Serebii. The 10th picture has lead me to bealeve that we are indeed getting new Eevee Evolutions.

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

yay eevees back!! but there mightnt definetely be new ones seeing as they only showed the current ones..

Mujahid July 13th, 2010 7:09 AM

The scans say that the cities and the scripts will be different in the different versions...In one of the screen shot we see a city which is a bit modernized and in another scan the same city has a past touch to it...This really makes me wonder....where is all this heading to ????.....I'm confused..Is one game set in past and the other in future ??..But then modern hiun won't exist in one version...yr thoughts

Hybrid Trainer July 13th, 2010 7:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwiftSign (Post 5964605)
Also, it looks like there might be a place to evolve Leafeon and Glaceon since it shows one of them? I hope so <<

Maybe image 14 might have something to do with where the 'stones' they evolve from might be. so they might be more version exclusives :P

StratusJm July 13th, 2010 7:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mujahid (Post 5964788)
The scans say that the cities and the scripts will be different in the different versions...In one of the screen shot we see a city which is a bit modernized and in another scan the same city has a past touch to it...This really makes me wonder....where is all this heading towards ????.....I'm confused..Is one game set in past and the other in future ??..But then modern hiun won't exist in one version...yr thoughts

im guessing completely different storyline in each version to explain the differences.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid Trainer (Post 5964800)
Maybe image 14 might have something to do with where the 'stones' they evolve from might be. so they might be more version exclusives :P

thats what i was thinking. version exclusive eevees??

Iceshadow3317 July 13th, 2010 7:19 AM

I wonder which one is which tho.

And like you said, will there not be a Huin city in one?

raging lion July 13th, 2010 7:26 AM

Maybe in one version you support Nature against Tech and maybe in the other one you support Tech against Nature.
So maybe we would have same story line but with different faction according to both version.

Planetes. July 13th, 2010 7:28 AM

New Scans!
 




Okay well Corocoro came out with some new scans today with clearer pictures of Kibago, Gochiruzeru, and Rankurusu.
It also said that when you connect your file to the internet one of your Pokemon can go to the "World of Dreams" where they can play in its room, do mini games, and interact with other Pokes. (Do you like it or is Pokemon turning into Neopets)
I like the idea, its sounds sort of fun.


Also Kibago, learns a new move called Double Chop, its not a fighting type now, but Double Chop sounds like a fighting type move, so can we concur that Ononokusu is in fact a fighting type since Kibago is believed to be its prevo?

Iceshadow3317 July 13th, 2010 7:31 AM

I can see a huge storyline if they make a 3rd.

I think Black is Tech and White is Natural. Just the way I see that.

Black is color of pollution some times. White is the color of cleanleaness. You know what I mean?

Mujahid July 13th, 2010 7:32 AM

Yeah ...It makes sense as white has White FOREST and black has black CITY....so now i can guess where it's going

crehym July 13th, 2010 7:41 AM

I've read somewhere that Kibago gets Mold Breaker, ohhh ohh ohh.
All designs are awesum though I don't appreciate the eagle much.


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