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New Legendary Representations
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Something I've been wondering ever since Generation IV is how would the next generation of Pokémon would be able to surpass what Arceus represented. In Generation I the legendaries for the most part represented the seasons and aspects of the weather. Gen. II built a little off of that with the three beasts and Lugia and Ho-Oh as the Guardians of the sea and sky respectively. From there Gen. III brought us the overseers/creators of land, sea, and sky and Gen. IV gave us the pokemon that shaped time, space, and the universe itself. The main question here is how do you go beyond that? How much deeper can the origins go? Its not to say the creators necessarily have to go beyond Arceus but if you look at each generation the legendaries powers and representations have all gone steps beyond their predecessors. This thread is also to discuss what other representations the new legendary Pokémon may have. Generation IV gave us 13 new legendary Pokémon (14 if you count Phione) and so it is fair to assume that there will be a decent amount of new ones aside from the two we already know with Reshiram and Zekrom. Will they be sculptors of the earth or universe too? What higher representations are left to be covered in the Pokémon World? What are your thoughts and what would you like to see? Discuss here. Quick rundown. Feel free to add in anything else in case I missed something or made a mistake. I'm going based off of all known Pokédex entries and information from bulbapedia. Gen. I: Artucuno: Winter and ice Zapdos: Summer and thunder Moltres: Spring and flame Mewtwo: DNA engineering Mew: "Ancestor of all Pokémon" Gen. II: Entei: Volcano eruptions and the flames that burned the Brass Tower Raikou: Lightning striking and the lightning that struck the Brass Tower Suicune: The North Winds and the rain that put out the Brass Tower Lugia: "Guardian of the Seas" and storms Ho-Oh: "Guardian of the Skies" and rainbows Celebi: Time-travel Gen. III: Regice: Ice Age Regirock: Stone Age Registeel: Iron Age Latias: Telepathy and invisibility Latios: Telepathy and imagination Groudon: Creator of land Kyogre: Creator of the sea Rayquaza: The sky and the ozone layer Jirachi: Wish granter Deoxys: Extraterrestrial life Gen. IV: Uxie: Knowledge Mesprit: Emotion Azelf: Willpower Dialga: Time Palkia: Space Giratina: Antimatter Cresselia: The crescent moon, hope, and good dreams Darkrai: The new moon and nightmares Manaphy: "Prince of the Sea" and hydration Phione: Legendary status is questionable but representation is probably the same as Manaphy Heatran: Embodiment of volcanic activity Regigigas: Pulled the continents together Shaymin: Purity and creator of plant life Arceus: "The Original One" and creator of the Pokémon universe Things I can think of: The autumn season has been left out since Gen. I and the legendary birds. The full moon could be represented by a new legendary. A chaos Pokémon that created the egg Arceus was born from. (That would top Arceus) Legendary Pokémon representing death (although Giratina kind of covers that and this is a game marketed for kids). If Arceus is the Pokémon God then what about a Pokémon Devil? (Again wishful thinking considering this is a kids' game) Legendary Pokémon representing parallel universes, wormholes, black holes, or other dimensions (the Distortion World kind of weakens this idea but it could be pulled off). |
Well we have yet to have light and dark, Nature and tech which I think these two new legendary pokemon represent ;)
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I would say Life and Death or Light and Dark.
Both of them respresnt a side of the Yin-Yang symbol. Find out what that means and you will know what the represent. |
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Never thought of it that way, Yamikarasu. It could work, but I'd rather find out when the games come out.
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Zek is Night |
Zekrom represents electrical storms and darkness while reshiram represents heat and light.
Oh and this picture doesn't really add anything, it is just sexy: http://pokebeach.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/reshiram-zekrom-anime.jpg |
Which is why the screen shot with Zek is probably him making it dark.
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I see where you guys are all coming from any of those can be right actually :)
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It makes sense.
Time/Space Land/Water Guardian of Seas/Guardian of Skies Day/Night |
Natural/Artificial makes sense too :)
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how does it work if Mew is the ancestor of all pokemon and yet Arceus is the God pokemon that created Emotion, will and knowledge plus the universe... and yet Mew and Mewtwo were suppose t be the mose powerful pokemon.
this game does seem to contradict itself. Also I think black and white games represent day and night instead of good and evil or light and dark. Though I could be wrong. |
Also the Trio is lible to be, Rain,Snow,Sun or Past Presnt Future.
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Zekrom and Reshiram represent Narute and Industrial world, or so some people think. I think they should just represent Good and Evil. |
Since Zekrom isn't a dark type at all considering its colouring it's probably not good vs. evil. That would have been boring and predictable anyways. I sooooo did not see the box mascots, with their monochromatic color schemes (or even the names Black and White for their respective games) as technology vs. nature, did you? Maybe with their tails or names, but just looking at them?
Night and day? Maybe, but I would have expected a dark typing on Zekrom and psychic for Reshiram a la Cresselia and Darkrai. You could twist it that the fire and electric types could be night and day, but you tell me. With the ominous Black City and serene White Forest, it sounds like Pokemon is going for 'save the rainforests' motif. |
I'd actually like to see Game Freak creat a Pokémon representing existence in its purest form: Chaos. I'm a keen student of the Protogenoi geanology and it seems that Pokémon has covered most of the Great 18.
Let's see them make a trio (or just three seperate, unrelated Pokémon) out of Chaos (Void) Inevitability and Generation. Throw them in next to Arceus and then you have a universal power right there. |
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I don't think an "Evil" Version of Arceus is that far off. I've said that one would happen for two years and I doubt I'm the first to say it.
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Natural vs Artifical! |
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Rain, snow and sun have kind of been covered with Suicune, Lugia, Articuno and Moltres but there's always the possibility for more. I like the night and day concept for Reshiram and Zekrom but prefer the natural-light and artificial-light theory even more considering neither of them are Dark types. If the Team Rocket for these games is really supposed to be called Team Plasma then natural and artificial elements would really work into whatever their scheme is supposed to be. This thread also isn't limited to the two we know about. Gen. IV gave us 13 legendaries (14 if you count Phione) so what other legendary types do you all think may come out of this? I, like someone else mentioned, would also be really psyched for a pokemon that embodies chaos. |
Well it was said some where that the weather would play a major role in the game.
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