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Rengoku July 18th, 2010 8:05 PM

N is not weird, he's *__* Shiny (My word for omfg I love him!)!

pichuspark July 18th, 2010 9:47 PM

...Mustard D:

N from the future would be MUCH darker. As in, completely insane, consumed by his interest in freeing the Pokemon, and pretty much is on the verge of wiping humankind...or so I think. I shouldn't go into depth more, fangirls would attack me... D:

PaxAmericana July 18th, 2010 10:12 PM

OMG, i didn't know, oh wow!!!!!!


Just playing around

Rengoku July 18th, 2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pichuspark (Post 5982138)
...Mustard D:

N from the future would be MUCH darker. As in, completely insane, consumed by his interest in freeing the Pokemon, and pretty much is on the verge of wiping humankind...or so I think. I shouldn't go into depth more, fangirls would attack me... D:

And what would fanboys do?
I'm one. *Thinks*

Haza July 19th, 2010 12:41 AM

Maybe N stands for nature... and his evil twin brothers name will be something similar XD

Åzurε July 19th, 2010 12:18 PM

I'm not the only person who thinks N will bear more-than-passing similarities to one Yoshiya "Joshua" Kiryu, am I?
N seems like he'd be less of a jerk, though. I have a new favorite character!

myrrh25 July 20th, 2010 12:06 AM

This is really shaping up to be the best plot & generation of Pokemon so far. :D

Ho-Oh July 20th, 2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5982312)
Maybe N stands for nature... and his evil twin brothers name will be something similar XD

Ooh that makes sense with the green hair too, and the fact that his hair sort of just reminds me of White Forest. Or N alternatively stands for Nintendo and you're fighting Nintendo, rather than Pokemon characters :D

Kimicatdemon July 23rd, 2010 9:09 PM

I read N may stand for neutral. That sounds like a good meaning...

although PERSONALLY... I think his real name may just start with a N or something like that. o3o

Calder July 23rd, 2010 9:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5982312)
Maybe N stands for nature... and his evil twin brothers name will be something similar XD

N is in Pokemon Black and stand for Nature tries to destroy Black City using Nature!

T is in Pokemon White and stands for Technology tries to destroy White Forest using Technology!

LOL

Thordainhammer July 23rd, 2010 9:31 PM

I like how the evil team has become more and more psychotic with each generation.

Zet July 23rd, 2010 9:46 PM

I really like how B/W is playing out with characters and their interactions with people around them, but I hope N doesn't disappear or anything that can make the storyline change from awesome to super lame in a few seconds.

shininglatios217 July 23rd, 2010 9:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5964911)
This was on Pokebeach:



Power huh? That reminds me of this:

http://pokebeach.com/news/0610/black-white-character-2.gif

Who's that guy? I have never seen him before.

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Originally Posted by pichuspark (Post 5964943)
Oh gawd, it's PETA :O

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Originally Posted by Kirbychu (Post 5965074)
I hope he leads a team of a bunch of American hippie stereotypes.


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Originally Posted by Azure-Supernova (Post 5965189)
I'm surprised we haven't faced a "Pokémon Rights Activist Guild' in a Pokémon game so far.

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5965541)
Yeah... I have a feeling hes gonna pour Poke-blood on trainers...

Some of the best lines I have read XD.

Wait, Does N has brothers? If so, I hope they don't end being N's palette swaps.

EDIT: Darn, I couldn't erase it before someone read my stupid Tingle joke.

Karel_Kazuki July 23rd, 2010 9:50 PM

Here's How I could see it.

The Game has two sides(Sort of Like RSE)

The Crowned Guy wants to turn Isshu into a more natrualized stated in Black,through which he can rule because of he knowledge of technology and the future and such.N and Player team up to take him down at various parts of the story, similar to Steven or Barry in Pt.To do this, he needs to summon Reshiram.After Crownie's defeat, Reshiram goes on a rampage, making things around Ishhu turn more naturalized.The player has to capture or defeat it to bring it back to peace.

And Then he tries to make it more technological in White,through which he can rule over because he is the creator of the future.TO do this he needs to Summon Zekrom.and all of the things metioned above happened.

This is what could happen if GF gets lazy with Ideas. Only reason I would support this is because of the RSE remake theory.

BakingBluePotatoe July 24th, 2010 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 5997705)
Here's How I could see it.

The Game has two sides(Sort of Like RSE)

The Crowned Guy wants to turn Isshu into a more natrualized stated in Black,through which he can rule because of he knowledge of technology and the future and such.N and Player team up to take him down at various parts of the story, similar to Steven or Barry in Pt.To do this, he needs to summon Reshiram.After Crownie's defeat, Reshiram goes on a rampage, making things around Ishhu turn more naturalized.The player has to capture or defeat it to bring it back to peace.

And Then he tries to make it more technological in White,through which he can rule over because he is the creator of the future.TO do this he needs to Summon Zekrom.and all of the things metioned above happened.

This is what could happen if GF gets lazy with Ideas. Only reason I would support this is because of the RSE remake theory.

ya know, I think you may be right!

Cjdamon042 July 24th, 2010 2:17 AM

I'm really interested to see where this goes, and I actually kind of wish there isn't a team in BW. I've never really cared about any of the teams or their intentions and just wanted to get them over and done with quickly since they're just pointless trainers wearing questionable outfits with the same 3 Pokemon over and over again. Single foes with more emphasis on story and character background is far more appealing to me, so I hope that's the direction BW is heading in, and so far it looks to be that way.

Absolutely loving this game's characters so far; they have personalities that seem more real than previous games and I like that.

MrGnawty July 24th, 2010 7:26 AM

Based off of everything that we know, I think these games have great potential. The story actually has some depth to it and can really show a great deal of character progression whereas previous antagonists were somewhat flat.

EDIT: I suppose my post was a bit "flat" as well.

The way I see it, N means well, but like Communism (as the OP stated) it won't really work. The idea that N or the Red-Eyed Man wants to use the Legendary Pokemon as a means to return the technological world to that of a more natural one, doesn't seem to fit. We have already been told that the White Forest and Black City will be exclusives. For one to have only one area be natural and the other be a city doesn't match up with the theory. If we go the vise versa route (as a poster above me was saying) I still don't see it happening seeing as N wants Pokemon and humans seperate and technology/nature wouldn't have anything to do with it.

If there is a Team, N probably isn't the leader and would likely see them as a nuisance. He would probably hate them more than any because the Teams have all used Pokemon in order to achieve their goals in a much harsher way than most trainers. If anything, N and the player are two sides of the same coin who will eventually pair up to defeat the Team, assuming there is one. The Red-Eyed Man would then be the Leader of alleged Team and have some sort of connection to N whether it be family or N's psychotic, double personality.

Bay July 24th, 2010 8:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Zet (Post 5997698)
I really like how B/W is playing out with characters and their interactions with people around them, but I hope N doesn't disappear or anything that can make the storyline change from awesome to super lame in a few seconds.

I don't think N will disappear, though he might be gone for a while and then come back again. D: He seems like he'll be quite Pokemon in the games. I'm interested though on other things like if there will be character development from him later on, if he has connections to the evil team (if there's going to be one in the games) or his thoughts on them, how he'll treat the Pokemon, etc.


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Originally Posted by Cjdamon042 (Post 5998026)
I'm really interested to see where this goes, and I actually kind of wish there isn't a team in BW. I've never really cared about any of the teams or their intentions and just wanted to get them over and done with quickly since they're just pointless trainers wearing questionable outfits with the same 3 Pokemon over and over again. Single foes with more emphasis on story and character background is far more appealing to me, so I hope that's the direction BW is heading in, and so far it looks to be that way.

Absolutely loving this game's characters so far; they have personalities that seem more real than previous games and I like that.

I actually don't mind the teams' intentions and the leaders that much as to me the goals and the leaders are good. However, the grunts is where I get annoyed. XD However, seeing we don't have info on the team(s) yet, it does look like we might have single foes like N, so I agree that this will be interesting and a nice twist on the games.

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Originally Posted by MrGnawty (Post 5998510)
The way I see it, N means well, but like Communism (as the OP stated) it won't really work. The idea that N or the Red-Eyed Man wants to use the Legendary Pokemon as a means to return the technological world to that of a more natural one, doesn't seem to fit. We have already been told that the White Forest and Black City will be exclusives. For one to have only one area be natural and the other be a city doesn't match up with the theory. If we go the vise versa route (as a poster above me was saying) I still don't see it happening seeing as N wants Pokemon and humans seperate and technology/nature wouldn't have anything to do with it.

If there is a Team, N probably isn't the leader and would likely see them as a nuisance. He would probably hate them more than any because the Teams have all used Pokemon in order to achieve their goals in a much harsher way than most trainers. If anything, N and the player are two sides of the same coin who will eventually pair up to defeat the Team, assuming there is one. The Red-Eyed Man would then be the Leader of alleged Team and have some sort of connection to N whether it be family or N's psychotic, double personality.

I think most likely N isn't going to take part whatever is going on in the version exclusive cities. Like everyone else said, Black City at least contradicts his beliefs of having Pokemon be free from humans and such. The evil team(s) are most likely to take part in the happenings, however. If N were to take part though, it would be most likely to team up with you to defeat the team(s), like you said.

As for the Red-Eyed man having any connection to N, it's more likely family related. I think the double personality would be a bit much for a Pokemon game. I mean, I like it, but not sure if it's going to be in it due to the nature of it.

MrGnawty July 24th, 2010 8:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Alexison (Post 5998663)
As for the Red-Eyed man having any connection to N, it's more likely family related. I think the double personality would be a bit much for a Pokemon game. I mean, I like it, but not sure if it's going to be in it due to the nature of it.

Yeah, it would be a bit much for a Pokemon game, but it would be pretty awesome otherwise. I do see a slightly more mature theme to coincide with the increase in the hero/heroine's age, but it wouldn't go quite as far as I mentioned.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 24th, 2010 10:38 AM

N's plan are classified under "well intentioned Extremist" in my opinion from what we know about it :)

Calder July 24th, 2010 10:45 AM

N stands for Narcotics as in he is high if he thinks Pokemon should be separated from Humans.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 24th, 2010 10:53 AM

N stands for Nuclear, he has been exposed to nuclear radiation and is a super hero :P

Calder July 24th, 2010 10:55 AM

If he is in Pokemon White Version N stands for Nerdy because of this

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 24th, 2010 10:56 AM

Maybe he's N from Death note all grown up :P

Calder July 24th, 2010 11:01 AM

N has White hair in Death Note... and lives in Kanto... xD

N stands for Native as he acts like a Native American

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 24th, 2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5999133)
N has White hair in Death Note... and lives in Kanto... xD

N stands for Native as he acts like a Native American

Maybe he dyed his hair green and moved to Isshu :P. Besides they did go to America in one episode...

Red1530 July 25th, 2010 6:28 PM

N reminds me of a supporter of the Animal Liberation Front. I hope we get the chance to defeat him many times:rambo:.

Weavile05 July 25th, 2010 9:16 PM

One thing that's different about N is that he doesn't seem... evil... He probably won't be the main villain, unless he is a good actor or something and he's really working for some greater evil or he is like, the main guy.
Or maybe he starts out as a person with a misguided dream, and forms a team and undergoes a character change throughout the game.

shininglatios217 July 25th, 2010 9:35 PM

*serious post* I wonder if he is like Kefka from Final Fantasy VI.

From the pictures we have, I have made that theory.

Maybe he's being controlled by the mysterious man, but when Reshiram/Zekrom is released, N defeats the mysterious man and uses Reshiram/Zekrom to grant his wish to a certain grade. Then the main characters find Reshiram/Zekrom's weakness and use it against N.

Yeah, I know it's a cliché and that I had some misspellings but I want to see that in a Pokémon game.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 25th, 2010 11:10 PM

Yeah N doesn't seem all that evil but then again sometimes evil has a nice face it hides behind...

Livewire July 25th, 2010 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6004204)
Yeah N doesn't seem all that evil but then again sometimes evil has a nice face it hides behind...

Maybe the mysterious guy is the other half of the equation, mybe he wants humans to have total dominion over pokemon, and therfore would be in conflict with N. and as the main character, you get to deal with both of them. :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 25th, 2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6004237)
Maybe the mysterious guy is the other half of the equation, mybe he wants humans to have total dominion over pokemon, and therfore would be in conflict with N. and as the main character, you get to deal with both of them. :)

I think that as well :P
The evil dude would want to use pokemon as slaves to further humans way of life...

Zet July 25th, 2010 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Calder (Post 5999133)
N has White hair in Death Note... and lives in Kanto... xD

N stands for Native as he acts like a Native American

N came from the same orphanage as L did, which was located in England.

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6004237)
Maybe the mysterious guy is the other half of the equation, mybe he wants humans to have total dominion over pokemon, and therfore would be in conflict with N. and as the main character, you get to deal with both of them. :)

Humans kinda do already have total dominion over pokemon. But that could be very well what they are trying to do.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 25th, 2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zet (Post 6004274)
N came from the same orphanage as L did, which was located in England.



Humans kinda do already have total dominion over pokemon. But that could be very well what they are trying to do.

When I think total dominion I think Pokemon colleseum and XD...

Livewire July 25th, 2010 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zet (Post 6004274)
N came from the same orphanage as L did, which was located in England.



Humans kinda do already have total dominion over pokemon. But that could be very well what they are trying to do.


well not total dominion, most trainers are quite nice to thier pokemon.

i meant closer to slavery or endentured servitude, with a negative aspect to it. The myserious dude wants complete and total control, like a dictator. Think Joseph Stalin/Adolph Hitler

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 25th, 2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6004293)
well not total dominion, most trainers are quite nice to thier pokemon.

i meant closer to slavery or endentured servitude, with a negative aspect to it. The myserious dude wants complete and total control, like a dictator. Think Joseph Stalin/Adolph Hitler

Yeah those sure are the type of person imagine the other guy as minus the Nazi part for Adolth...unless he wants to wipe out Pokemon 0_0...

Livewire July 26th, 2010 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6004314)
Yeah those sure are the type of person imagine the other guy as minus the Nazi part for Adolth...unless he wants to wipe out Pokemon 0_0...

That could be true, one guy is pro-pokemon the other is anti-pokemon but idk @[email protected]

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 26th, 2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6004361)
That could be true, one guy is pro-pokemon the other is anti-pokemon but idk @[email protected]

LOl, I hope not...both of them will be using pokemon despite one wanting to free them and the other being anti pokemon...

Weatherman, Kiyoshi July 27th, 2010 6:08 AM

<3 this idea.

I always love someone who has a twisted sense of good for villians.
Even though the reason sounds nice so people aren't using Pokemon for just game,

What's really happening is that N is segregating the species themselves.

I will want to hear from him in the future. :3

"An anti-hero for the wrong reasons."

Nintendo has finally made an interesting antagonist.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 27th, 2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Weatherman, Kiyoshi (Post 6008234)
<3 this idea.

I always love someone who has a twisted sense of good for villians.
Even though the reason sounds nice so people aren't using Pokemon for just game,

What's really happening is that N is segregating the species themselves.

I will want to hear from him in the future. :3

"An anti-hero for the wrong reasons."

Nintendo has finally made an interesting antagonist.

Well team Magma and Aqua wanted to do good also for Land and Water pokemon respectively but there plans went haywire...

Åzurε July 27th, 2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6008731)
Well team Magma and Aqua wanted to do good also for Land and Water pokemon respectively but there plans went haywire...

Well, A&M were kind of odd... Why would anyone become obsessed with expanding the oceans, or the land mass? It's much more believable to have someone wanting to free Pokemon from their "enslavement".

StratusJm July 29th, 2010 3:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Åzurε (Post 6008768)
Well, A&M were kind of odd... Why would anyone become obsessed with expanding the oceans, or the land mass? It's much more believable to have someone wanting to free Pokemon from their "enslavement".

very true ^^

but i think it was because they wanted to make more room for the pokemon who lived on the land/ in the sea

xJordan360 July 29th, 2010 10:54 AM

Pokemon Trainer N is secretly Zoroark.
Another misunderstood and angsty pokemon, like Mewtwo was, who wants to separate humankind from pokemon.

Bay July 29th, 2010 1:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xJordan360 (Post 6015459)
Pokemon Trainer N is secretly Zoroark.
Another misunderstood and angsty pokemon, like Mewtwo was, who wants to separate humankind from pokemon.

N being secretly Zoroark is one of the Black and White rumors going on. However, I really don't like this idea. Already mentioned in the rumors thread how if that were to happen it'll be a bit complex for the games plotwise and also I don't want the game's plot to be too much like the first Pokemon movie.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 29th, 2010 1:39 PM

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Originally Posted by StratusJm (Post 6014481)
very true ^^

but i think it was because they wanted to make more room for the pokemon who lived on the land/ in the sea

Yeah they wanted more land for humans and pokemon while Aqua wanted more sea and talked about how life originated there and the importance of it...
Well N is probably not Zoroark if he is, then I'm going to send a pokeball at him during my first battle with him ;)

shininglatios217 July 29th, 2010 1:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xJordan360 (Post 6015459)
Pokemon Trainer N is secretly Zoroark.
Another misunderstood and angsty pokemon, like Mewtwo was, who wants to separate humankind from pokemon.

Not that rumor again... I know it sounds a little bit realist but it is still a rumor.

Planetes. August 12th, 2010 9:24 PM

N's true identity.
 
Well you guys know the trainer N. Well listen to this.
http://www.pokestation.net/images/corocoro_n.jpg
I came across a theory on the Nuzlocke Forums and my first reaction was "Typical Nuzlockers worshipping arceus with their had up their arse". (lol I'm a nuzlocker, but not that badly). Anyway the theory was that

Spoiler:

N IS REALLY ZOROARK


Then i thought some more and I realized there was bold proof leading to it.

-Zoroark can change into anything
-N wants Pokemon to be free, that sounds like something a Pokemon would want
I haven't seen movie 13 but I'm guessing Zoroark is pretty intelligent.

I know people would hate it, but it would do so much for the plot. Your Thoughts?

If not he'll def be the brother of the Plasma Boss

shuppet88 August 12th, 2010 9:33 PM

Ha that sounds interesting...that would be a fun twist, similar to the Pokeranger series where you become a pokemon, so why not a pokemon that can become a human?

Ho-Oh August 12th, 2010 9:36 PM

Merged with the thread on N :)

As for the rumour itself, I tried to make sense of it and I got really confused, so... I doubt it's true.

Planetes. August 12th, 2010 11:38 PM

It gets better!!!!!!
Seriously this stuck the nail in the coffin. Okay so Zoaroark is sometimes called "Z" right? So I was wondering what the significance of the letter "N" was, and what it had to do with Z.
rotate the letter N ninety degrees, or sideways for the simpler ones.

Ho-Oh August 12th, 2010 11:48 PM

Yeah but you could say that about M & W, too.

The rotational letters don't prove that N is Zoroark - as it is, it's purely rumours.

Planetes. August 13th, 2010 6:02 AM

well there's more significane in those letters since the trainer is known as "N" and zoroark is called "Z"

Ho-Oh August 13th, 2010 6:05 AM

But still... the storyline would become even more complicated, even if that were true.

littledoug1 August 13th, 2010 9:50 AM

I think pokemon rocket was classic and they won't find a better villian/team and this N guy sounds ridiculous

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 13th, 2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by littledoug1 (Post 6066089)
I think pokemon rocket was classic and they won't find a better villian/team and this N guy sounds ridiculous

They were the original of course it's classic, My favorite team was Galactic, I liked their crazyness :)

Planetes. August 13th, 2010 2:46 PM

I liked Neo TR the best if that counts as one

austy14 August 13th, 2010 3:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6066433)
They were the original of course it's classic, My favorite team was Galactic, I liked their crazyness :)

WEll galactic was a little too crazy. Cyrus seriously belonged in a mental institute. though the distortion world is close enough...

robxu9 August 13th, 2010 5:22 PM

hmm... N being zoroark? Then how is the "Special" battle against Zoroark triggered if you transfer a promotional shiny R/S/E to B/W? are you saying maybe you have to complete the part of the game of battling N?

That might actually be true.

Zoroark can speak in M13, I think... (but who knows O_o)

Azumi August 13th, 2010 5:41 PM

Wait, but I THOUGHT the dude who was crowned was N in the trailer. I mean, same hairstyle (well, at least the bangs), green hair, somewhat similar eyes?

But to me, it's 100% not possible that he's Zoroark. It might be a good plot thing, but... it doesn't really make sense. What IS the Zoroark event then?

...man, everything seems to theorized as ZOROARK these days. That Darkrai in the Pokemon anime, and now it's N. D: Am I seeing a trend?

GunSaberSeraph August 13th, 2010 6:11 PM

I thought the N=Zoroark thing was just a joke about N and Zoro both having wild Ponytails.

People are actually taking that theory seriously now?

Kimicatdemon August 13th, 2010 6:22 PM

Yes...
I have seen this theory for N, Darkrai, Iris and I believe even one for Aloe some where.

SO BASICALLY EVERYONE IS ISSHU IS ZOROARK. END OF DISCUSSION. 8D

Åzurε August 13th, 2010 9:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimicatdemon (Post 6068238)
Yes...
I have seen this theory for N, Darkrai, Iris and I believe even one for Aloe some where.

SO BASICALLY EVERYONE IS ISSHU IS ZOROARK. END OF DISCUSSION. 8D

Everyone Is Zoroark In Isshu?

Ho-Oh August 13th, 2010 9:40 PM

^ let's try and keep the discussion to N, rather than...something off-topic in relation to Zoroark.

Basically, yeah, the hair thing is the only connection I see between N and Zoroark so yeah.

Karel_Kazuki August 14th, 2010 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 5997705)
Here's How I could see it.

The Game has two sides(Sort of Like RSE)

The Crowned Guy wants to turn Isshu into a more natrualized stated in Black,through which he can rule because of he knowledge of technology and the future and such.N and Player team up to take him down at various parts of the story, similar to Steven or Barry in Pt.To do this, he needs to summon Reshiram.After Crownie's defeat, Reshiram goes on a rampage, making things around Ishhu turn more naturalized.The player has to capture or defeat it to bring it back to peace.

And Then he tries to make it more technological in White,through which he can rule over because he is the creator of the future.TO do this he needs to Summon Zekrom.and all of the things metioned above happened.

This is what could happen if GF gets lazy with Ideas. Only reason I would support this is because of the RSE remake theory.

I Still promote this Idea

kinu August 14th, 2010 3:46 AM

N is going to find a lengendary relase its power and realise he was wrong


http://pokefarm.org/_ext/user/juju

The Doctor August 14th, 2010 11:23 AM

N is probably the leader of Team Plasma

Planetes. August 14th, 2010 12:00 PM

N IS NOT THE LEADER OF TEAM PLASMA AS THE PLASMA GUY LOOKS MUCH OLDER

SEE!


http://pokebeach.com/news/0610/black-white-character-2.gifhttp://pokebeach.com/news/0610/black-white-character-3.gif
The evil guy is a lot older than N and has a different hair style than him. And N seems to be lacking a Mecha eye.

Even the guy getting crowned
http://pokebeach.com/news/0610/black-white-character-1.gifhttp://pokebeach.com/news/0610/black-white-character-3.gif
has different eyes than N.



N isn't the leader of Team Plasma, that's rediciulous. BUT!
He could be the brother of the Leader, but doesn't want to partake in their affairs, sort of like the whole Kamon-Giovanni thing. And that's where he gets his rival mean-ness from.

Logiedan August 14th, 2010 12:53 PM

He seems like Cyrus and judging from his goal, he may just be a misunderstood villain.

Esmas August 14th, 2010 3:57 PM

I'm certainly in love with N's design and overall scheme, it will at least a different twist to the game as to what we've seen before. What I'm really curious about is what's behind his name. It must have a meaning, not just a random letter from the alphabet xD; And I'm also curious as to what his 'token' Pokémon will be...

Azumi August 14th, 2010 5:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6070562)

Erm, different eyes? It's maybe because the drawing style of the eyes is different due to the former being animation/CG-style and the latter being anime-styled art.

Look at the crowned guy's middle bang. Then look at N's.

The eyes are the same colour.Sure, same eye colour doesn't really mean anything, but when you consider that this crowned man has the same hair colour AND that middle bang, it's not hard to assume that they are the same person.

Thus my opinion: N = crowned person.

xxChazxx August 14th, 2010 8:02 PM

He may have evil plans, but he is easily one of the best dressed/styled Pokemon trainers.

Planetes. August 15th, 2010 12:57 AM

@tachibana azumi, maybe his brother the real plasma leader is forcing him to do it, or he has finally realized his destiny

austy14 August 15th, 2010 6:55 PM

Maybe N and this crowned person are brothers, or possibly twins. Black and white, twins! The crowned one is obviously loved and rich, while N seems to be possibly unliked and more plainly dressed (though I do like what he wears. The rubiks cude on his belt FTW!) So there is obviously a connection between the two, possibly one, and I can't wait to find out!

Karel_Kazuki August 15th, 2010 10:09 PM

Or how about N is secretly The 8th Gym Leader or Champion like Giovanni was? Remember you had to face him several times in the original games before you fought him for the gym badge.Maybe N is like that as well.

austy14 August 15th, 2010 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 6075449)
Or how about N is secretly The 8th Gym Leader or Champion like Giovanni was? Remember you had to face him several times in the original games before you fought him for the gym badge.Maybe N is like that as well.

That's a good thought. Didn;t think about that one!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 15th, 2010 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 6075449)
Or how about N is secretly The 8th Gym Leader or Champion like Giovanni was? Remember you had to face him several times in the original games before you fought him for the gym badge.Maybe N is like that as well.

Wow that is a good idea, it would being some of the older players nostalgia :)

pokemad August 16th, 2010 5:02 AM

I think gamefreak is running out of "EVIL" ideas.
Wanting to set pokrmon free from humans to show friendship???
Come on!!!

austy14 August 16th, 2010 1:01 PM

Well, have you seen it before? No. It's original, and it's tacky. Perfect for a new team!

PaxAmericana August 16th, 2010 2:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 6075449)
Or how about N is secretly The 8th Gym Leader or Champion like Giovanni was? Remember you had to face him several times in the original games before you fought him for the gym badge.Maybe N is like that as well.


Neat idea you thought about, i didn't think about it
GOOD IDEA

Karel_Kazuki August 16th, 2010 7:52 PM

It just came to me after reading up on the Serebii,Giovanni Event in HGSS xD.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 16th, 2010 7:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 6077681)
Well to be quite frank, you haven't really seen how it's set in stone, so how can you make such a negative statement? Granted, it may sound ludicrous for the most part because of the idea, and you're allowed to make speculation and opinion and whatnot, but nobody really knows exactly how they're going to do it. In other words, no one really knows if the concept is really going to be as "lame" as leaks put it that way. N can be working with Team Plasma as an undercover, or maybe even use Team Plasma to accomplish his goals, who knows?

This guy definitely looks more evil than most of the other guys that are in the previous versions bar Cyrus by a slight margin, but even then, there may be something much darker about N that we don't know until we possibly play the game(or until more spoilers are released, but the game is coming out next month anyway, so we'll probably get the full experience/information then).

Really by a "Slight margin"? I don't see N as Evil as Cyrus, that guy was going to destroy/ kill everyone and everything in the Universe for his own dreams! I rather has N's dream happen than Cyrus'...
N's plan sounds familiar for some reason...I think I heard it/ saw it somewhere in some form...

shininglatios217 August 16th, 2010 7:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6078775)
Really by a "Slight margin"? I don't see N as Evil as Cyrus, that guy was going to destroy/ kill everyone and everything in the Universe for his own dreams! I rather has N's dream happen than Cyrus'...
N's plan sounds familiar for some reason...I think I heard it/ saw it somewhere in some form...

Now that you talk about it, it sounds familiar for me, too. I think it was in an anime or something.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 16th, 2010 8:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shininglatios217 (Post 6078781)
Now that you talk about it, it sounds familiar for me, too. I think it was in an anime or something.

Yeah I think so too...I think maybe Digimon Data squad or something like that :\

Sora's Nobody August 16th, 2010 9:38 PM

Well. He could be the rival. But if he is I would find it interesting if it goes little like. HE comes off kinda friendly but as the game goes by he gets more and more enraged finnaly to reveal himelf as part of Team Plasma

austy14 August 17th, 2010 5:30 AM

Well he could be like Silver and be related to someone in Team plasma, though despise them. Maybe Plasma is actually good...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6079666)
Well he could be like Silver and be related to someone in Team plasma, though despise them. Maybe Plasma is actually good...

That would be a twist...
Maybe the leader of team plasma is the father of N like Geovanni to Silver :)
I read in the Isshu page in Serebii that you encounter team Plasma in Liberty tower...that's odd for an Event, though it sounds intresting :)

austy14 August 17th, 2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6080390)
That would be a twist...
Maybe the leader of team plasma is the father of N like Geovanni to Silver :)
I read in the Isshu page in Serebii that you encounter team Plasma in Liberty tower...that's odd for an Event, though it sounds intresting :)

Well liberty...liberate Pokemon. Maybe they wanted Victini because he has mystical liberty powers! But I still think N/Crowned Green Guy are brothers. And that would be a huge twist if PLasma were good! N told you they were bad, so you defeat them, helping his "good" then find out his true evil plans! Then you battle N and fight Zek/Reshi! WOAH!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6080470)
Well liberty...liberate Pokemon. Maybe they wanted Victini because he has mystical liberty powers! But I still think N/Crowned Green Guy are brothers. And that would be a huge twist if PLasma were good! N told you they were bad, so you defeat them, helping his "good" then find out his true evil plans! Then you battle N and fight Zek/Reshi! WOAH!

Some will find that too complicated but I like it, could happen but both want the same goal...so I figure they just have diffrent methods of doing so. Hey maybe N is the leader of team Plasma like it said in the rumors...like Cyrus in the anime, they didn't know he was team Galactic's leader until later, same with Giovanni with the Rocket's in the Manga...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 12:13 PM

Well what ever N truly is/ his plan is likely to fail, I wonder if the second legendary trio will play a part in the Plot like the Regis' in the Manga, and the Lake trio in all gen 4 media?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 2:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 6080854)
Then again, don't the evil teams' plans always fail anyway? With the exception of Team Magma/Aqua?

They do but Team Rocket's plan failed because they were too weak to beat a kid...actually did they even have a plan in RBY?, Team Magma and Aqua failed because they couldn't control the legends, Team Galactic's plan failed because of the Lake trio, plus Giratina (PT) got in the way...we were too late to stop Cyrus and everything would have ended if it wasn't for those 3/4 :)
So yeah, they will go wrong somehow but I hope they are closer than Cyrus was to his, he was the closest...

austy14 August 17th, 2010 4:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6081071)
They do but Team Rocket's plan failed because they were too weak to beat a kid...actually did they even have a plan in RBY?, Team Magma and Aqua failed because they couldn't control the legends, Team Galactic's plan failed because of the Lake trio, plus Giratina (PT) got in the way...we were too late to stop Cyrus and everything would have ended if it wasn't for those 3/4 :)
So yeah, they will go wrong somehow but I hope they are closer than Cyrus was to his, he was the closest...

TR didn't have that much of a plan, they were just thugs that did missions to steal Pokemmon/Make money (But in G/S/C/HG/SS their plan is more of bringing Givonni back). Also, I wonder if the opposite version Pokemon will make an appearence, as in G/S/C/HG/SS where you caught the first one before E4 and second after. Or would that just be overly convenient?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 4:05 PM

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Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6081290)
TR didn't have that much of a plan, they were just thugs that did missions to steal Pokemmon/Make money (But in G/S/C/HG/SS their plan is more of bringing Givonni back). Also, I wonder if the opposite version Pokemon will make an appearence, as in G/S/C/HG/SS where you caught the first one before E4 and second after. Or would that just be overly convenient?

I hope so, the other one comes to help out it's fellow opposite out :)

austy14 August 17th, 2010 4:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6081294)
I hope so, the other one comes to help out it's fellow opposite out :)

There can't be a balance with only one Pokemon!

Ravecat August 17th, 2010 4:59 PM

You know how there's likely to be RSE references in this game, like the Johto references in DPPt?

I wonder if anyone remembers the green-haired, light-clothe-wearing boy from the Gen III games. . .

mrunner4home August 17th, 2010 5:12 PM

I bet N is his own separate team, maybe he has a few people with him, but I'd bet that there is another separate evil team doing their thing, like trying to mind control all pokemon and integrate their thoughts with human thoughts, then there's N trying to keep them separate, and both of them fight against you.

then later on in the game N joins teams with you and helps you fight the bad team, >>> THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND <<< and then he goes away once the bad guys are defeated, the storyline for the player progresses (the rest of the gyms, say) and then N comes back like uber strong and wants to battle you again and that's the final boss battle.

so he's the enemy most of the game, and keeps trying to throw you down, then the bad guys come in and are like 10x worse so N teams up with you, then he helps to defeat them (maybe coming in and out of the story line, lending a hand here and there, and finally a double battle you and N against the evil team boss), then he leaves for a while and comes back, again your enemy (or maybe he just wants to battle one more time for old time's sake, but he's now friendly) and then the end of that

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 5:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravecat (Post 6081412)
You know how there's likely to be RSE references in this game, like the Johto references in DPPt?

I wonder if anyone remembers the green-haired, light-clothe-wearing boy from the Gen III games. . .

You mean Wally? Of course there are to be RSE references :)

Ravecat August 17th, 2010 5:47 PM

I do mean Wally,

I was implying that Wally looks similar to 'N'.

austy14 August 17th, 2010 6:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravecat (Post 6081553)
I do mean Wally,

I was implying that Wally looks similar to 'N'.

Wait... Wally, N? Holy Skittles! And helped that son of a... well I'm on warning for swearing but you know what I mean ;). But that could be... though Wally loved his Pokemon. Why Wally, WHY!?!? Though I look forward to more RSE references, I noticed a few in HG/SS: Steven, all the legendaries (exception of regis) available... Though the Wally part does support my theory of the characters being older Red/Leaf. I had a thread about that but a mod merged it in with the rumors thread :( I'll make another one WITH WALLY! I can't believe you Wally... :'(

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 17th, 2010 7:05 PM

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Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6081811)
Wait... Wally, N? Holy Skittles! And helped that son of a... well I'm on warning for swearing but you know what I mean ;). But that could be... though Wally loved his Pokemon. Why Wally, WHY!?!? Though I look forward to more RSE references, I noticed a few in HG/SS: Steven, all the legendaries (exception of regis) available... Though the Wally part does support my theory of the characters being older Red/Leaf. I had a thread about that but a mod merged it in with the rumors thread :( I'll make another one WITH WALLY! I can't believe you Wally... :'(

Lol, Wally turned into some guy how poses like Whitney :P

austy14 August 17th, 2010 7:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6081838)
Lol, Wally turned into some guy how poses like Whitney :P

Poses like Whitney? What do you mean? I think it would be cool if he was N. And Red/Leaf were back.


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