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Childhood Rivals and Starter Selection!
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Many people were worried that there wouldn't be the classic "PICK A POKEBALL" thing, but dont worry its still there. It seems like you may get to battle your 2 childhood friends afterall. Cheren will most likely pick the pokemon that has an advantage over you while Bell picks the one that you have an advantage over. (You pick Pokabu, Cheren picks Mijumaru and Bell picks Tsutaja for example) I know for a fact that you get to face Cheren: http://serebii.net/blackwhite/cheren2.jpg This is just like last generation with Dawn and Barry but I hope that you actually get to face the girl trainer. I would love for there to be 2 rivals. http://pokebeach.com/news/0710/corocoro-black-white-2-3.jpg From Pokebeach: Quote:
Because we have 2 rivals we could actually participate in a triple battle with them, or maybe just a double battle! |
IU actully like this idea. It makes seem more like your in the pokemon world.
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3 kids starting there journy at the same time. It isn't really new,but they are goign back to the classic ways. We arn't accidently getting our pokemon.
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I like this too. 2 Rivals. I was kinda upset that you couldn't battle Dawn, but I hope it'd be like this.
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I like the idea of having two rivals too. Seems like more of a challenge :)
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Ah, yeah.. it's so much better that way,
But what I'm really hoping is that soon we can create our own character. |
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But I do like the idea of having more childhood friends and generally I think this game will have a lot of characters in the story. |
I hope they do that someday. I would love to create my own character.
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So we're going back to Route 1. I wonder where exactly this new region is. o.O
And the idea of two rivals is interesting; as one picks the Pokemon that has the advantage and another picks the one that has the disadvantage, how else will the two rivals differ? |
I like the idea of two rivals, more variety I suppose. Should be interesting :)
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Yay! More experience for all!
So the blond girls name is Bell....Time to make a new theme! |
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also, call me crazy, but I highly suspect this Cheran guy might get involved in the villainous team somehow. His dark features, calm, intelligent nature, and subdued outfit just shout "I will double cross you if the chance arises." |
So this makes me wonder if we actually get to see the opposite gender trainer at all in the game. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've yet to see both the female and male trainer on the same screen right? I hope we get to battle/communicate with the opposite character.
I am happy to finally see two rivals though, that should be great. |
I totally agree with Timbjerr, I'm just ecstatic that our characters have such in depth personality as their physical designs. I see that Beru/Belle is going against her father's wishes in her journey, so I think that's awesome. This probably means we won't have so many do-good characters.
Another thing I love is the fact that we have two childhood friends going on the journey with us! It seems like they both will be heavily involved in the story, which is great. I think that will really make up for the loneliness in most pokemon games. |
So there's two suckers we have to triumph over now huh? Hopefully these guys will actually have some personality, unlike almost every other rival, who all seem to come away from defeat with more confidence than ever -_-
I hope Cheren's a real challenge, he looks like the kinda guy that might end up being a champion. Although seriously, more childhood friends? I know it's no solid indication of the plot, but it's already pulling tabs from Anime 101. Quote:
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WOO! Alright!! This makes me really happy =D
Cheren seems like he's gonna be a really tough Rival Belle i really hope she's really strong too we need a Tough Female Rival since we're going to be battling both of them when we get our starter if we beat them both looks like we'll be on Level 7 by the time we get to Route 1 xD or what if they make the Levels down to Level 1 ? o_o that'd be awesome/weird heehee |
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What is wrong with meeting him/her around the first or second Gym? What's the big idea of giving our character and their rival a pre-existing relationship, I just feel it'd be better if we met them in-game and the relationship built up from there. Perhaps we meet them and they help us at first, maybe they appear as a normal trainer and challenge us to a battle? Whatever, I'm just bored of the same thing. |
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In fact, I think this game may erase the whole "rival" tradition and just give us several characters we casually battle with. Personally, "rival" just feels like a spot to fill and almost excuses real personalities and roles in the story. |
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its awesome that there are 2 rivals
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I do that too, my friend and I are very competitive, and I always keep him in mind when training or teaching moves or choosing teams. Having a real life person to strive against really helps you do good in the game. I think that's the problem I've always had against rivals. I never had to try to beat them, I never thought of them while playing. I just knew they'd show up, and I'd beat them, then we'd both move along on our separate paths.
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I think that having two rivals is awesome and anyone who thinks different will be smooshed by Hariyama butt.
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Two rivals sounds awesome, I think N will become our third rival ;)
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I love this idea and I wanted this since I first played Blue... (First game for me) That was my first thought one I picked Squirtle and Gary choose Bulbasaur I was like "What about the charmander?" and felt sad for him :( We will also be able to see all the evos of the starters for the Dex instead of yours + rivals + random trainers so sweet... Anyone else think that Palmer had another child in this region o.o Bell looks like Berry/Jun's Sister...
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Yeah I felt sad for the squirtle in FR :( |
I have to say, now that we have clearer pictures, I'm more pleased with the two rival characters than ever (and as far as I'm concerned, Bell is adorable and nobody can change my mind!). Having two real rivals and facing both of them, while they get full-blooded characterization... just, wow. GameFreak is going all out on this one, so it seems. The only way this could get better is if there's a triple battle where the player teams up with both rivals against the big bad or something.
(okay, I know it's extremely unlikely, but it would be really cool if all three kids had a full team of six and the villain had eighteen Pokemon just for it to be even. That'd be an epic battle) |
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I really like the rivals, they're going to be fun to deal with. I can't wait to hear about the fan that always wins against Cheren and loses to Bell. XD |
Um guys, you do realize that not everyone in the game is someone's relative XD?
Cheren looks like me; calm, collected, and kicks major ass. But the thing that bothers me is they are representing Mijumaru and Tsutaaja, makes you want to choose Pokabu.... |
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Just saying, that's the vibe that Bell gives off, that's all. XD And haha, I was thinking about the Pokabu thing too. It's like they're preying on the fact that the fire-starter is the most popular. (well, in most generations) |
The grass one is the most famous so far of the starters though of gen 5 not the fire one like in other gens...
I want the rivals to be hard! |
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Also, I was looking at Cheren's summary on Pokebeach, and it mentions him as "very intelligent" and that he is "extremely trustworthy and will give you advice throughout your journey." It seems to me, at least as far as I can guess, that he's sort of the expert amongst the three friends, and while he might possibly be cold and calculating, he's honorable and would prefer to win without an unfair advantage (since he's giving his rivals advice). |
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I want to battle the girl so bad :P Also, if we're older, why are we just starting? So many questions. |
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It isn't the first time we've had two rivals. Remember RSE? You had to battle both Wally and Brendan/May. Just pointing that out.
Still, I love this idea. |
Yeah or maybe you just moved to Isshu like in RSE...
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Still that is a question, maybe we start in a town that doesn't really believe in battling or being trainers? |
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"Sorry kids, due to the economy, you had to wait a few years, here you go" |
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So now I'm wondering... with two rivals/friends now, how will they both balance themselves out against you (providing you get to fight both)? |
Well maybe they pick the starters weak against and strong against you then they get vise versa as their second pokemon thus they will balance out
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I would hope that they have different teams that vary to their personality. For example, Cheren would have a highly competitive team that's a very tough challenge, while Bell has a cute, but surprisingly powerful team. Like I said earlier, I'd think Cheren would get the starter that's better than your selection, while Bell gets the short end of the stick but has the starter better than Cheren. [/ramble] |
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I think we'll have 3(4) rivals/people to battle against.
1) Cheren 2) Belle (I really like the idea of starting with two) 3) N 4) This great trainer that Prof. Aragagi knows - Who is the Girl or Boy we don't choose. We need to battle them OMG! They'll be the Champion!!! :o I'd also liek to battle Prof. A and her assistant. |
The assistant looks shy and reminds me of Munna...
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Maybe we have to capture a Munna or rescue one for her.
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I think we'll have 3(4) rivals/people to battle against.
1) Cheren 2) Belle (I really like the idea of starting with two) 3) N 4) This great trainer that Prof. Aragagi knows - Who is the Girl or Boy we don't choose. We need to battle them OMG! They'll be the Champion!!! :o I'd also like to battle Prof. A and her assistant.Her assistant has a Munna flower clip as well. Belle looks TOO much like Barry, I don't like it. I prefer her though :) Kibago is SO cute! My new fav, bar Tsutajaa, from that Gen. She's the Gible of this Gen and it evolves to that Axe Blade thing, Pseudo Legend. |
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I can't wait for this. I hope there will be something "new" with these games. Something that suprises us. I believe that i have read something about this, but cant really remember. This i mean beside the two rivals thing. But maybe this is what they meant. =p
Anyways, theres something i don't get: When you order a Japanese version, is there something better about these? Since people that aren't Japanese buy these versions? |
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Also, I just want to say that Belle, even if it's not what her name is properly translated as, is what I shall call her. Beru reminds me far too much of Luke Skywalker's aunt. |
I think we should be speculating what becomes of our other gender counter-part. I think it'll be fantastic to see Black/White at the League Champion.
Also, B/W = more of a re-boot than RSE ever was. |
I hope the rivals team up with you to take down the evil team like in Pt like we said before :)
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Only one question, which of the two rivals gets the starter that's the opposite type of yours, and which one gets the starter that yours has the advantage on?
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I would say the boy will get the one that is strong against yours. Girl will probably just get what ever is left and refer to it as cute.
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Cheren and Belle would be your "friendly rivals" who want to test their skills and see how you've advanced, as well as offer you assistance when needed. One or both of these should make it through to the E4. N is there obviously, running into you when you interrupt his plans and will be the biggest pre E4 challenge. Number 4 (and there should be one) should fill two roles, first appearing in Team 'X' as a Grunt (slightly more notable than other grunts) and then recurring, increasing in levels and rank along with you. |
i hope we get to Name Both of them
i dunno... i just like naming Characters in Games XDDDD |
I don't think if we have a forth rival that they will be a grunt for the team...I see the 4th one as the Lyra/lucas/dawn/Ethan of the group...
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I myself hope that if we have a fourth rival they aren't like Dawn,Ethan,ect. but instead you just meet up and become sparring pals...
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I just thought of something with all these rivals we might not have an Elite 4 and Champion but a tournament like in the show where you fight your rivals in the tournament...
Like this... http://i26.*.com/21nlagm.png or with more trainers so you fight all 4 |
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Would be fun. |
Well N says he wants to better than the champion so maybe if there is a tournament we can battle the champion for the title after we win the tourney:\
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It prob be like this.
Round 1: You and Bell Cheren and Someone Someone and Someone N and Someone Someone and Someone Someone and Someone Someone and Someone Black/White and Someone Round 2: You and Cheren N and Someone Someone and Someone B/W and Someone Round 3: You and N B/W and Someone Round 4: B/W and You Winner: You And the Mysterious Champion N could get some power and change to make his pokemon stronger and challenges you again at the very end. |
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After you beat him. He could get soem type of power. You said yourself that he wants to be more powerful then the champ.
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I'm just happy about the fact that more characterization is included in these games. Instead of the rival NPC being the basic bratty rival, we get more of an insight into the other starting characters.
Cheren is still seriously my favorite out of the introduced characters. I love his design. Always have. Belle, on the other hand, scares me a bit. I can't wait to see how the dynamic between these characters work. As for that battle tournament idea? Do want. I love tournament-style Pokemon battles. |
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Yeah Cheren is pretty cool, I like the smart type of rival :) |
Didn't anyone hear me when I said the Champion should be Black/White depending on the Protagonist we choose?
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the rivals r kinda gay u no expect mystery man n hes liek silver expect mudkipz and hes cooler
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http://serebii.net/blackwhite/cheren2.jpg
^This^ http://pokebeach.com/news/0710/corocoro-black-white-2-3.jpg It's the same place that's just to Cheren's right in the 2nd scan ! O_O WTF ! Where do we get to face Cheren ?! In our own destroyed room ? I smell universe travellingg with your rivals ... :) |
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Man,this sounds cool!
Battling 2 rivals,and going on an adventure with them. Makes me even more excited! |
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However, I'm looking for more than just the characterization alone. I'm really hoping that these rivals put up a good enough fight. The game developers always gave our rivals talk, but they never game them enough strategy or effort to put more than a mere dent on us. So, I'm looking forward to that as well, especially seeing as we've gotten just about three rivals and they all look like they'll be pretty decent in the game itself. Tournament style Pokémon League is what I'm really hoping hard for this generation. Elite Four Leagues are great, but they're too easy. I'd like to challenge the Elite Four and region champion after partaking in a real tournament-style league; with the rivals, it'll make it all the more fun. |
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EDIT:weaker meaning not super effective and stronger meaning super effective |
welcome, G3rm O_o.
also i would like many more rivals than 3 ^_^ it would be difficult, and more like ash. Wherever he goes, he makes enemies. Maybe you will have a crazed mob at the end, and you have to fight them all in a row! |
Yes. Two rivals are way better than one. And they are your friends. No stupid rival from HG/SS hitting you and everything. This'll be good. =D
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Why do the rivals have better fashion sense than your character? lol
And I dunno, I thought the point of a rival wasn't to be your friend, but to be a sadistic individual who wants to beat you into the ground at all costs. Maybe I'm completely missing the point here... |
Meh...... -.- I just bought and started SS and here comes a new game D:
Looks great, I'll definitely get this game! 2 Rivals! No accidental Poke-pick and you can easily whoop one of your rival's pokemon (the one who chooses pokemon which you have an advantage on) :D |
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I want to team up with both of them in a triple battle sometime in the game.
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I don't want to be childhood friends with such a weird-looking girl like Belle and a nerd like Cheren. xD His name reminds me of a Cherry. O.o
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Well, the "two rivals" idea will at least make the game more interesting, but then we'll whack one of them in no time. I hope Cheren will have the weaker one, cause they said he is more clever, or something like that. |
Well we've has two rivals before but I guess its better because you will be able to battle them a bit more then in any of the other games... I wonder which outta the two pick your weakness and which picks the other...?
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belle
i think that there may be more to belle than we think.. she's stuck with the pokemon thats at a disadvantage to our starter, and she is more of the stick in the mud outta the group...and she's disobeying her father! she may be a surprise force when we were expectiing cheren or n!!! btw, y do we get stuck with the most awkward friends...are they suppose 2 be groupies lol?
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