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Llennoccm8 July 14th, 2010 4:59 PM

Route 1?
 
Why are we starting at route 1? I do think it is a fresh new concept for a new gen, but what do you think?

Mortalis July 14th, 2010 5:02 PM

We're starting at Route 1 because, as mentioned, Isshu is a far off place, so far away in fact, that they believe they were the first. So, here we are, starting over once more. They said this in CoroCoro.

Weavile05 July 14th, 2010 5:02 PM

it should be 301, or 1001, I don't see why they would use the same route as Kanto, unless the route either looks just like kanto, or this is the last pokemon game. I just don't see why.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 14th, 2010 5:03 PM

Well each country has it's own set of numbered highways don't they? Maybe this is the same?

pokejungle July 14th, 2010 5:04 PM

lol well if it's a far off region, why would they have knowledge that Kanto has the same road names?

I'm glad they "reset" the route names again.

Mortalis July 14th, 2010 5:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pokejungle (Post 5970296)
lol well if it's a far off region, why would they have knowledge that Kanto has the same road names?

I'm glad they "reset" the route names again.

They know of it obviously. They reset them because they're so far away. Isshu is probably the biggest / most advanced region in the Pokemon world, so tourists probably go there first thing. If you went to a new place that is no where near close to any other region, wouldn't you think "Why is it route 650? Where are the previous ones? Why 650? Why not 723?"

Weavile05 July 14th, 2010 5:07 PM

I'm not mad, I don't really care, and I didn't think about the fact that it IS a far off region... until then I just didn't see any reason why, that's all. Where did you see that piece of info lennoccm8?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 14th, 2010 5:07 PM

Yeah me too :). From the pic we saw of the entrance to the route it looks different than Kanto's route 1 and the best looking starting route :)

Mortalis July 14th, 2010 5:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Weavile05 (Post 5970310)
I'm not mad, I don't really care, and I didn't think about the fact that it IS a far off region... until then I just didn't see any reason why, that's all. Where did you see that piece of info lennoccm8?

I'm guessing he saw it on Serebii, or a Pokemon news site. It was in the CoroCoro scans.

Llennoccm8 July 14th, 2010 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Weavile05 (Post 5970310)
I'm not mad, I don't really care, and I didn't think about the fact that it IS a far off region... until then I just didn't see any reason why, that's all. Where did you see that piece of info lennoccm8?

It was either PokeBeach, or Serebii, or Both.

Weavile05 July 14th, 2010 5:11 PM

I mean, they did have a pattern. Kanto was the first game, so it started with route 1.
Johto picked up right where kanto left off, because it was connected to kanto.
Hoenn started with route 101, because it wasn't connected to Johto OR Kanto.
Sinnoh then started after another 100, jumping up to 201.
It would have made sense to me that Isshu would have been 301.

pokejungle July 14th, 2010 5:12 PM

http://pokejungle.net/2010/07/13/hi-rez-scans/

look at first scan of corocoro to see some shots of the beginning town/route~ :3

Weavile05 July 14th, 2010 5:15 PM

k, thanks a ton, I'll look at those now.

Mortalis July 14th, 2010 5:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weavile05 (Post 5970327)
I mean, they did have a pattern. Kanto was the first game, so it started with route 1.
Johto picked up right where kanto left off, because it was connected to kanto.
Hoenn started with route 101, because it wasn't connected to Johto OR Kanto.
Sinnoh then started after another 100, jumping up to 201.
It would have made sense to me that Isshu would have been 301.

Yes, but you don't understand. Here, I made a picture;

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad260/SooperTrooperGFX/Map.png

That's how far Isshu is ... probably farther.

pokejungle July 14th, 2010 5:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SooperTrooper (Post 5970342)
Yes, but you don't understand. Here, I made a picture;

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad260/SooperTrooperGFX/Map.png

That's how far Isshu is ... probably farther.

Only looks like maybe 2 inches to me, maybe not even.

MistahDude July 14th, 2010 5:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weavile05 (Post 5970327)
I mean, they did have a pattern. Kanto was the first game, so it started with route 1.
Johto picked up right where kanto left off, because it was connected to kanto.
Hoenn started with route 101, because it wasn't connected to Johto OR Kanto.
Sinnoh then started after another 100, jumping up to 201.
It would have made sense to me that Isshu would have been 301.

Kanto, Jhoto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh are all close to each other, but Isshu is far away. This contributes to the "Isshu = America" theory.

http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx264/MistahDude/world_map.jpg?t=1279157318

fenyx4 July 14th, 2010 5:30 PM

I'm gradually becoming accustomed to the "route reset", and it does make sense when one considers how far Isshu is relative to Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh. There's not really a reason to "continue" from a previous region. The quirks I have with the old system are that routes could potentially head into the 1000s after a few gens, which would feel a bit weird. Personally, I have never heard any route in the real world reference the thousands digit - but hey, this is Pokemon, not the real world! :P

Also, I discourage the 'skip' made whenever a new region is introduced. For example, with the Hoenn-Sinnoh jump, where are Routes 135-200? Johto-Hoenn is more notable, I guess, since Routes 47 and 48 just happened to randomly pop up in Johto in HGSS while they were nowhere to be seen in GSC (I guess routes can be built whenever one feels like making one, though...).

Anyway, if they're going to reset the routes now, I'd prefer it if Game Freak did it for every region in the future. Otherwise, if we find out in Gen VI that there's another region reasonably close in proximity to Isshu (that we haven't heard of yet, akin to the Kanto-Johto scenario) and they pick up from where Isshu left up, the routes might get confusing? People might be like, "which Route 28? In Johto or Isshu?" or something like that. And if we just so happen to get another remake of RBY on the 3DS (which I hope doesn't happen, for fear of redundancy) and are able to transfer Isshu's new Pokemon to that game, there's going to have to be an extra descriptor in the summary screen discerning Kanto's Routes from Isshu's. Yeah, it's a major stretch, but still a possibility, albeit a slim one. :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 14th, 2010 5:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5970380)
Kanto, Jhoto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh are all close to each other, but Isshu is far away. This contributes to the "Isshu = America" theory.

http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx264/MistahDude/world_map.jpg?t=1279157318

Well it can be in Shanghai like the other person in the other thread showed Shanghai is also far away from the other regions :)

MistahDude July 14th, 2010 5:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5970406)
Well it can be in Shanghai like the other person in the other thread showed Shanghai is also far away from the other regions :)

No it really isnt. China is right next to Japan.

Kirbychu July 14th, 2010 5:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 5970416)
No it really isnt. China is right next to Japan.

It's still a completely different nation. I believe that Isshu is New York myself, but Shanghai is at least a bit plausible.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 14th, 2010 5:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirbychu (Post 5970431)
It's still a completely different nation. I believe that Isshu is New York myself, but Shanghai is at least a bit plausible.

I think the same thing, but we take a look at Shanghai and not say it's America like they confirmed it already, the geography also resembles that of
Shanghai a lot :) I don't mind if it does turn out to be China as I love China!

Haza July 14th, 2010 8:24 PM

Eh, this thread should merge with the Isshu Region Thread... but they did say that there was going to be a rebirth of the franchise. Also makes me think this won't be the last region. It's just the Kanto of another ride!

valor555 July 14th, 2010 8:24 PM

It's not like there aren't a million Lincoln Ave.'s or a billion Washington Streets

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 14th, 2010 8:24 PM

Yeah it is a fresh start :) It's also another sign of the reboot they talked about :)

rocky505 July 14th, 2010 8:26 PM

I just hope there is a route 69 xD

Haza July 14th, 2010 8:28 PM

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Originally Posted by valor555 (Post 5970727)
It's not like there aren't a million Lincoln Ave.'s or a billion Washington Streets

Yeah, but this is Pokemon we're talking about. There has never been two of the same route names before...

MistahDude July 14th, 2010 8:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 5970740)


Yeah, but this is Pokemon we're talking about. There has never been two of the same route names before...

And there hasnt been a game thats actually different before. Game Freak promised us change and we got it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 14th, 2010 8:29 PM

Wonder how many routes Isshu will have 25 like Kanto :P

rocky505 July 14th, 2010 8:31 PM

Kanto had like 27-28 in Johto.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 14th, 2010 8:36 PM

Oh yeah it did but will it have 25 like in RBGY or 28 like in GSC

Myles July 14th, 2010 8:41 PM

I, for one, like the route reset. It ensures that Pokémon world-wise, we are for sure in another nation. Meaning we will finally get to see outside of the unnamed Pokémon nation and see another nation and... (wait for it)... we could get an international Pokédex. Finally sorting out all the evolution lines correctly and such.

Cyberglass July 14th, 2010 8:54 PM

It kind of makes sense to start over again anyway. After all, each regional pokedex has a different #001 Pokemon, and the only reason the old routes didn't restart was the possibility of interconnectedness like in GSC. With Isshu being so far away, this will not pose a problem

Bloothump July 14th, 2010 9:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5970509)

I think the same thing, but we take a look at Shanghai and not say it's America like they confirmed it already, the geography also resembles that of
Shanghai a lot :) I don't mind if it does turn out to be China as I love China!

This has nothing to do with route numbering. If anything, if he drew Isshu on china, his point wouldn't be very well supported, because on a small map China and Japan truly do look right next to eachother. In other words, drawing Isshu on American helps support his point.

Aaaaaand this....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5970707)

Well they are rising while America is dangling from several strings :P

I find a bit offensive personally. America may be struggling at the moment but we aren't going to diminish with one more problem, as the term "dangling from several strings" implies. I'm usually not easily offended but someone who's worried about the future of himself and his family is a little on edge about the crises of his country, just saying.

Anyway, on topic, I love the fact that they're resetting the route numbers. Honestly, I'm not gonna remember route 311 if I love it, All I'm going to remember is "That one path near that one town with the grass and stuff." However, with simpler numbers like Route 1,2,3 etc., I'll actually remember the names of the places I'm going.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 14th, 2010 9:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5970897)
This has nothing to do with route numbering. If anything, if he drew Isshu on china, his point wouldn't be very well supported, because on a small map China and Japan truly do look right next to eachother. In other words, drawing Isshu on American helps support his point.

Aaaaaand this....

Well they only said it was farther from the other regions compared to how far they are to each other and the space between Shanghai and Sinnoh seems to be more than that of Sinnoh and Kanto :)

Bloothump July 14th, 2010 9:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5970911)

Well they only said it was farther from the other regions compared to how far they are to each other and the space between Shanghai and Sinnoh seems to be more than that of Sinnoh and Kanto :)

Yes but what I'm saying is your taking a debate from another topic into this one when someone was merely trying to make an example.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 14th, 2010 9:25 PM

Well sorry about getting off topic :P
So how many routes will this region have Sinnoh had 30 those being 201 to 230 :)

Masterge77 July 15th, 2010 6:12 AM

Even if Isshu is a new start, it only applies to the games and not the anime.....

empty streets July 15th, 2010 7:12 AM

I don't really care about the route names. They are not important, pokemon that lurk in there are.

JP July 15th, 2010 7:16 AM

I really don't see what the big deal is. Only makes sense to restart the road numberings considering the area is so far away from the rest of the regions. I like it and it only helps to reinforce the idea that Isshu is far away.

Pokekid1995 July 15th, 2010 7:59 AM

i think its China Yin and Yang pokemon. New country=new begining thats why

Zeturic July 15th, 2010 8:08 AM

I think it. It's a really good idea. It gives the games that "fresh" feel.

Solodomo July 15th, 2010 8:24 AM

I love the idea of them starting over. it will feel like it's 1998 again if they do it right...-_- (what am i saying here?)

Kirbychu July 15th, 2010 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 5971578)
I really don't see what the big deal is. Only makes sense to restart the road numberings considering the area is so far away from the rest of the regions. I like it and it only helps to reinforce the idea that Isshu is far away.

I agree. You guys might be exagerrating a bit. This isn't exactly a huge revamp like Hoenn. 3:

pokeman2121 July 15th, 2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SooperTrooper (Post 5970284)
We're starting at Route 1 because, as mentioned, Isshu is a far off place, so far away in fact, that they believe they were the first. So, here we are, starting over once more. They said this in CoroCoro.

This sounds reasonable. Maybe if this isn't the last pokemon game, they should actually name the routes after the people in the credits or something?

Nikorasu July 15th, 2010 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SooperTrooper (Post 5970284)
We're starting at Route 1 because, as mentioned, Isshu is a far off place, so far away in fact, that they believe they were the first. So, here we are, starting over once more. They said this in CoroCoro.

I hope they get rid of all the old pokemon aswell.

Tiem to go back to just the 100 please? :)

Azure-Supernova July 15th, 2010 10:36 AM

It's things like this which are encouraging me to warm up to the new generation... it's seperating it from the past ones so it feels like a new title.

It's more like Game Freak are saying "Here look at this Kitty I got you!" rather than "Look, we replaced your old puppy with a newer, bigger, better looking one!"

Kirbychu July 15th, 2010 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikorasu (Post 5972052)
I hope they get rid of all the old pokemon aswell.

Tiem to go back to just the 100 please? :)

The Pokemon that they've spent years and tons of money to create? The Pokemon that still keep fans engrossed in the franchise to this day?



SehCure July 15th, 2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokejungle (Post 5970361)

Only looks like maybe 2 inches to me, maybe not even.

I giggled :)

Well to me it doesnt make much difference as long as its not, as someone stated, the last game :O

I mean its not like its the end of the world...

§acred†Beo! July 15th, 2010 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5970292)
Well each country has it's own set of numbered highways don't they? Maybe this is the same?

This is exactly what I believe, the past games were all set in the Japan area. This new game is supposedly based off a far away land (ahem New York) so that would only suggest they have there own set routes etc.

Calder July 15th, 2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky505 (Post 5970737)
I just hope there is a route 69 xD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_69

Haha read the last line of the first paragraph...

US 69 is noteworthy as having had numerous reassurance shields stolen because of the sexual connotation of its route number

Also more evidence that its in New York/Eastern Part of US...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_1

Hydrath July 15th, 2010 11:04 AM

new nation new highway numberings. simple as that. I believe it's already confirmed Isshu isn't in Japan like the other games are.

why should lets say, USA, fallow the number system after Japan? It just doesn't work like that.

this also leads to another question- what about national pokedex? if they are restarting the route numbers for isshu because it's another nation what about the pokedex numbers?

Numbers July 15th, 2010 11:19 AM

I like that they're starting off at Route 1. It just enhances the feeling that this is a new beginning for Pokemon.

MartinJF July 15th, 2010 12:43 PM

Its a new country, which mean new route system, new pokemon and new adventures...

It Make sense..

Jerme July 15th, 2010 12:47 PM

when i first played sapphire, i saw the 1st route was 101 so i ended up rhinking we would go to johto before...so starting at route 1 causes less confusion

and with johto and kanto being connected, it makes since that they share the same route system

speaking of route 101, why did it jump from 46 to 101?

Poeman July 15th, 2010 1:09 PM

Route 1 theory could also mean Boston :D

Kirbychu July 15th, 2010 2:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerme (Post 5972238)
when i first played sapphire, i saw the 1st route was 101 so i ended up rhinking we would go to johto before...so starting at route 1 causes less confusion

and with johto and kanto being connected, it makes since that they share the same route system

speaking of route 101, why did it jump from 46 to 101?

They actually did that to prevent confusion that you could go to past regions. =P

Volroc July 15th, 2010 3:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5970292)
Well each country has it's own set of numbered highways don't they? Maybe this is the same?

^---- this was my thought

i hope its still brilliant, i have high hopes for our new route 1 :D

Mortalis July 15th, 2010 3:50 PM

Most of you keep saying that Isshu is based around / off of America. We don't know this. Many people think that it's Shanghai too, so just remember that.

Anyways, yes, the reason we are starting at Route 1 again is because Isshu is so far away. I'm pretty sure that the National Dex will remain the same, but this time with the added Pokemon.

Calder July 15th, 2010 4:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SooperTrooper (Post 5972541)
Most of you keep saying that Isshu is based around / off of America. We don't know this. Many people think that it's Shanghai too, so just remember that.

Anyways, yes, the reason we are starting at Route 1 again is because Isshu is so far away. I'm pretty sure that the National Dex will remain the same, but this time with the added Pokemon.

Mostly because everything in the screenshots have been compared to locations in New York and match like perfectly xD

TrainerShane July 15th, 2010 4:35 PM

I don't care what the region is based off of. I care about the story, the ability to fight tougher trainers in-game, and the Pokemon.
Route 1 is a nice fresh start. I don't think anyone will really get confused.

Iceshadow3317 July 15th, 2010 5:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikorasu (Post 5972052)
I hope they get rid of all the old pokemon aswell.

Tiem to go back to just the 100 please? :)


Not going to happen. First off there was 151 original pokemon.

second it is confirmed that Black and White is compatable with older games. Therefore all pokemon will be back.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 15th, 2010 5:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SooperTrooper (Post 5972541)
Most of you keep saying that Isshu is based around / off of America. We don't know this. Many people think that it's Shanghai too, so just remember that.

Anyways, yes, the reason we are starting at Route 1 again is because Isshu is so far away. I'm pretty sure that the National Dex will remain the same, but this time with the added Pokemon.

That is true we don't know yet for sure...
Well we will have a International pokedex instead of a National since it takes place in a different country or maybe the Continental pokedex if Isshu does take place in China ;)

Myles July 15th, 2010 6:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SooperTrooper (Post 5972541)
Most of you keep saying that Isshu is based around / off of America. We don't know this. Many people think that it's Shanghai too, so just remember that.

It will never be officially confirmed because they never confirm any of the regions in that manner. There's no doubt except from people that desperately want it not to be New York, for some strange reason... As far as I'm concerned Isshu is as much confirmed as being based off New York as Sinnoh is of Hokkaido.

vietazn654 July 15th, 2010 6:41 PM

I really thought it would be Route 301. =\ I guess you can never be too sure. =P

Mortalis July 15th, 2010 7:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myles (Post 5972948)
It will never be officially confirmed because they never confirm any of the regions in that manner. There's no doubt except from people that desperately want it not to be New York, for some strange reason... As far as I'm concerned Isshu is as much confirmed as being based off New York as Sinnoh is of Hokkaido.

That's what I meant; I know it will never be officially confirmed, as they did not do so with most of the other regions [beside Kanto and Johto, I recall them telling us sometime ...]

Well, you never know. It could be based off of somewhere in India. It's all up to Game Freak.

PkmnTrainer Olivier July 15th, 2010 7:11 PM

All of the known regions of the main series were part of the map of Japan. Maybe Isshu is somewhere else like in North America! Who knows!

I love to listen to Pokémon music on my computer. When I'll be searching for route 1, I'm sure I'll always click on the wrong one XD

[QUOTE=Jerme;5972238]when i first played sapphire, i saw the 1st route was 101 so i ended up rhinking we would go to johto before...so starting at route 1 causes less confusion

and with johto and kanto being connected, it makes since that they share the same route system

speaking of route 101, why did it jump from 46 to 101?[I guess there might be some regions between Johto and Hoenn someday and then we'll see routes 49 (47 and 48 are in HG and SS) to route 100.]

Caelus July 16th, 2010 3:43 AM

I'm glad they're calling the first route Route 1, since that's what I would expect from a region located far from the other four.

That, and 301 sounds pretty excessive to me. :/

hack1 July 16th, 2010 4:18 AM

I don't care. Was it Route 1 or Route 598½ all I care is Pokeymanz on that route.

IceFireLighnting July 16th, 2010 5:37 AM

I, for one, love the idea that Isshu is in America, because then we get to host a pokemon game for once! SO COOL!!:cheeky:

Iceshadow3317 July 16th, 2010 6:49 AM

I wouldn't mind eather. If they expand region areas then they will eventually in in my general area and that be awsome.

Pokekid1995 July 16th, 2010 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by §acred†Beo! (Post 5972086)
This is exactly what I believe, the past games were all set in the Japan area. This new game is supposedly based off a far away land (ahem New York) so that would only suggest they have there own set routes etc.

actually its shanghai china hiun city is in china compare a map of them both and see

Le Creep! July 16th, 2010 11:49 PM

YAYAYAYAYYAAY!!

I was expecting the Sinnoh region to start off with ''Route 1'', instead I got a whopping ''201''.

It's great that there's going to be a new route system *song and dance*

Zeta Sukuna July 17th, 2010 3:43 AM

I love how there is a new route system. I was disappointed in both Hoenn and Sinnoh when they just tacked on an extra hundred. It makes it seem as if it is a new journey, and that's good, at least to me, anyway.

Pokekid1995 July 17th, 2010 5:23 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dLNZWejhqE&playnext_from=TL&videos=yaFtqJ7d0jU&feature=recentu this is proof people isshu is shanghai china deal with it and get used to it

Myles July 17th, 2010 5:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokekid1995 (Post 5977218)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dLNZWejhqE&playnext_from=TL&videos=yaFtqJ7d0jU&feature=recentu this is proof people isshu is shanghai china deal with it and get used to it

That is only a vague resemblance. Manhattan is an exact match.

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 6:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokekid1995 (Post 5977218)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dLNZWejhqE&playnext_from=TL&videos=yaFtqJ7d0jU&feature=recentu this is proof people isshu is shanghai china deal with it and get used to it

Yes yes yes! I didn't want it to be New York :D The curved road at the end and Lake sealed the deal :D

Kam the Narwhal July 17th, 2010 6:39 AM

Said bridge could always be the Brooklyn Bridge, or one of the other thousand bridges in New York.

Besides, there wouldn't be a route reset if it were based on Shanghai. China and Japan are pretty close to each other, especially when compared to New York.

Also, a good few of the species in the region are New York natives; pigeons, eagles, chipmunks, blue jays...

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 6:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kam the Narwhal (Post 5977309)
Said bridge could always be the Brooklyn Bridge, or one of the other thousand bridges in New York.

Besides, there wouldn't be a route reset if it were based on Shanghai. China and Japan are pretty close to each other, especially when compared to New York.

Also, a good few of the species in the region are New York natives; pigeons, eagles, chipmunks, blue jays...


Oh right. Kill joy. Yes it's New York, the Eagle seals that deal T_T

Myles July 17th, 2010 6:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kam the Narwhal (Post 5977309)
Besides, there wouldn't be a route reset if it were based on Shanghai. China and Japan are pretty close to each other, especially when compared to New York..

Yes, Hokkaido/Sinnoh was further away from the other regions then Shanghai is.

Mana July 17th, 2010 6:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myles (Post 5977322)
Yes, Hokkaido/Sinnoh was further away from the other regions then Shanghai is.

Yes but they are all part of the same country, whilst Shanghai and "Hoenn" are separated by 900km of ocean.

I live in England and technically France is closer than some places in my own country, however I would still class it as 'far away' in comparison.

This topic isn't about the LOCATION it's about the ROUTES.

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Personally I like that the routes start again, but I'd have prefered it if they had individual names rather than just numbers to give them a bit of character and make them more memorable.

яankurusu July 17th, 2010 9:10 AM

Ahh a nice new fresh start :)
That's what everyone likes ..

Doogle3097 July 17th, 2010 10:51 AM

I like the idea of starting fresh again, it makes sense. :)

Sora's Nobody July 17th, 2010 11:41 AM

It doesent really matter to me the starting fresh thing, its just a route. But yes i think its intersting.

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokekid1995 (Post 5976841)
actually its shanghai china hiun city is in china compare a map of them both and see

THE COUNTRY THE REGION IS BASED OFF COULD JUST AS LIKELY BE EITHER SHANGHAI OR MANHATTAN, EITHER PLACE HAS EQUAL SIMILARITIES. NEITHER IS, OR PROBABLY WILL NEVER CONFIRMED. YOUR VIDEO PROVES NOTHING. YOU CANNOT STATE YOUR SPECULATION AS FACT WITHOUT CONFIRMATION BY NINTENDO AND/OR GAMEFREAK. FURTHERMORE, THIS ISN'T EVEN THE RIGHT TOPIC FOR THIS, CONSIDERING THIS IS TALKING ABOUT ROUTES AND YOU'RE DEBATING ISSHU'S ORIGINS. PLEASE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE SO IGNORANT, DO IT ELSEWHERE.

Hopefully that finally gets my point across.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 11:56 AM

Well I expect to see the Chipmunk in route 1 as well as the pigeon :P

Sora's Nobody July 17th, 2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978169)
THE COUNTRY THE REGION IS BASED OFF COULD JUST AS LIKELY BE EITHER SHANGHAI OR MANHATTAN, EITHER PLACE HAS EQUAL SIMILARITIES. NEITHER IS, OR PROBABLY WILL NEVER CONFIRMED. YOUR VIDEO PROVES NOTHING. YOU CANNOT STATE YOUR SPECULATION AS FACT WITHOUT CONFIRMATION BY NINTENDO AND/OR GAMEFREAK. FURTHERMORE, THIS ISN'T EVEN THE RIGHT TOPIC FOR THIS, CONSIDERING THIS IS TALKING ABOUT ROUTES AND YOU'RE DEBATING ISSHU'S ORIGINS. PLEASE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE SO IGNORANT, DO IT ELSEWHERE.

Hopefully that finally gets my point across.

WOW. Did you take your medication today?

Find me a picture (google earth) of a place that resembles isshu as much as shanghai does, which also has a lake the exact same place as in isshu, that has a mottor way that connect the lower middle part of the center land to the right piece of land and ends with a twirl. LIKE IN ISSHU!!!


Oh and if you do happen to stumble across such a bridge, please show me its pointy top. Oh and also point out to me where on your manhattan map you have mountains.

oh and i really find it incredible (other picture of shanghai i found on PC) That shanghai has an orange bridge where the Isshu orange bridge is. Hmmmm..

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 5978226)
WOW. Did you take your medication today?

Find me a picture (google earth) of a place that resembles isshu as much as shanghai does, which also has a lake the exact same place as in isshu, that has a mottor way that connect the lower middle part of the center land to the right piece of land and ends with a twirl. LIKE IN ISSHU!!!


Oh and if you do happen to stumble across such a bridge, please show me its pointy top. Oh and also point out to me where on your manhattan map you have mountains.

oh and i really find it incredible (other picture of shanghai i found on PC) That shanghai has an orange bridge where the Isshu orange bridge is. Hmmmm..

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978169)
THE COUNTRY THE REGION IS BASED OFF COULD JUST AS LIKELY BE EITHER SHANGHAI OR MANHATTAN, EITHER PLACE HAS EQUAL SIMILARITIES. NEITHER IS, OR PROBABLY WILL NEVER CONFIRMED. YOUR VIDEO PROVES NOTHING. YOU CANNOT STATE YOUR SPECULATION AS FACT WITHOUT CONFIRMATION BY NINTENDO AND/OR GAMEFREAK. FURTHERMORE, THIS ISN'T EVEN THE RIGHT TOPIC FOR THIS, CONSIDERING THIS IS TALKING ABOUT ROUTES AND YOU'RE DEBATING ISSHU'S ORIGINS. PLEASE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE SO IGNORANT, DO IT ELSEWHERE.

Hopefully that finally gets my point across.

wow that was kind of Harsh Sora...but nice comparing :)
Well no one has actually confirmed Kanto,Johto, Hoenn or Sinnoh being based in Japan it's only a Theory, a very convincing theory...more than the Theory of Evolution at that :P

Sora's Nobody July 17th, 2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978265)


wow that was kind of Harsh Sora...but nice comparing :)
Well no one has actually confirmed Kanto,Johto, Hoenn or Sinnoh being based in Japan it's only a Theory, a very convincing theory...more than the Theory of Evolution at that :P

yyeah but like isshu has been found to look extremely much as shanghai. Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh, look extremely much as their "Japanese counter parts" i mean yes. what COULD this be http://i28.*.com/4r92qb.png

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 5978304)
yyeah but like isshu has been found to look extremely much as shanghai. Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh, look extremely much as their "Japanese counter parts" i mean yes. what COULD this be http://i28.*.com/4r92qb.png

Yeah they do...maybe we should talk about this in the Isshu thread before some people say we are going off topic...

Mortalis July 17th, 2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kam the Narwhal (Post 5977309)
Said bridge could always be the Brooklyn Bridge, or one of the other thousand bridges in New York.

Besides, there wouldn't be a route reset if it were based on Shanghai. China and Japan are pretty close to each other, especially when compared to New York.

Also, a good few of the species in the region are New York natives; pigeons, eagles, chipmunks, blue jays...

Yes, there would still be a reset if it was based on Shanghai. Shanghai, compared to the previous regions, is very far away from the regions that were based of Hokkaido and such.

Blue Jays are not native to New York, nor are chipmunks or Pigeons. The Eagle has not been revealed as an American based Pokemon. Much speculation has gone on about it's origin. More people are saying that It's based off of a native Chinese eagle. You're thinking these creatures are 'native' to New York because they're there right now; they're not.

Don't make assumptions without proper information to back you up. I also quoted this to show we need to get a little bit more back on topic; we're talking about the Pokemon and origins now, we need to talk about route 1.

Personally, i'm happy to have reset the routes. It shows that it is indeed a far away country, and that we have a fresh new region to deal with.

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 5978226)
WOW. Did you take your medication today?

Find me a picture (google earth) of a place that resembles isshu as much as shanghai does, which also has a lake the exact same place as in isshu, that has a mottor way that connect the lower middle part of the center land to the right piece of land and ends with a twirl. LIKE IN ISSHU!!!


Oh and if you do happen to stumble across such a bridge, please show me its pointy top. Oh and also point out to me where on your manhattan map you have mountains.

oh and i really find it incredible (other picture of shanghai i found on PC) That shanghai has an orange bridge where the Isshu orange bridge is. Hmmmm..

I don't take any medication, thank you. :-)
And yes, I do agree that Shanghai has a lot going for it's point. But the whole point I was getting across was that

One: Nobody knows for sure what Isshu is. Nobody but the creators. We haven't played the game, we've only seen a map. How do you know that an NPC in Hiun City won't be like "Oh, I've finally made it. Hiun, the big Apple! It's so magnificent!" there could be dialog like that inside.

and Two: All of these posts are irrelevant, because the point of this thread is to converse over the reset route numbers. This post and those before it are irrelevant to the subject at hand. This debate belongs in the Isshu Region thread, sorry to mini-mod.

I wasn't using my post to debate your theory. And your theory personally I enjoy. You never said that "ISSHU IS SHANGHAI I KNOW IT IS PROVEN". You said "no other place resembles it more". I find that true. But when people say things are proven or they're absolutely right, I don't accept that.

Again, whether Isshu = Shanghai or Isshu = New York, it doesn't matter one bit to me. But nothing is proven and it makes me mad when people say it is. Now, let's stop talking about this. Because, this thread if for routes.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:51 PM

I hope we get snowy routes like route 201 in Sinnoh :)

Mortalis July 17th, 2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978364)
I don't take any medication, thank you. :-)
And yes, I do agree that Shanghai has a lot going for it's point. But the whole point I was getting across was that

One: Nobody knows for sure what Isshu is. Nobody but the creators. We haven't played the game, we've only seen a map. How do you know that an NPC in Hiun City won't be like "Oh, I've finally made it. Hiun, the big Apple! It's so magnificent!" there could be dialog like that inside.

and Two: All of these posts are irrelevant, because the point of this thread is to converse over the reset route numbers. This post and those before it are irrelevant to the subject at hand. This debate belongs in the Isshu Region thread, sorry to mini-mod.

I wasn't using my post to debate your theory. And your theory personally I enjoy. You never said that "ISSHU IS SHANGHAI I KNOW IT IS PROVEN". You said "no other place resembles it more". I find that true. But when people say things are proven or they're absolutely right, I don't accept that.

Again, whether Isshu = Shanghai or Isshu = New York, it doesn't matter one bit to me. But nothing is proven and it makes me mad when people say it is. Now, let's stop talking about this. Because, this thread if for routes.

Please, everyone read this quoted post; it explains what the posters here need to see, and why we need to get back to the main topic at hand; the route reset.

Anyways, I wanted to say that the starting town, which leads to Route 1, vaguely reminds me of Twin leaf / Pallet Town. If you look at it enough, it kind of brings back the memory of those two towns ... do you think that was meant to happen?

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978370)
I hope we get snowy routes like route 201 in Sinnoh :)

Those are so much fun, it's kind of like a puzzle; you have to avoid or battle trainers, find your way, and try and find buried items. Awesome route, none the less.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SooperTrooper (Post 5978373)
Please, everyone read this quoted post; it explains what the posters here need to see, and why we need to get back to the main topic at hand; the route reset.

Anyways, I wanted to say that the starting town, which leads to Route 1, vaguely reminds me of Twin leaf / Pallet Town. If you look at it enough, it kind of brings back the memory of those two towns ... do you think that was meant to happen?



Those are so much fun; it's kind of like a puzzle, you have to avoid or battle trainers, find your way, and try and find buried items. So much fun.

It also reminds me of those but also Littleroot and Newbark town...

Mortalis July 17th, 2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978377)

It also reminds me of those but also Littleroot and Newbark town...

It's all of them mixed together ! The only thing It's missing is a little pond, or a narrow strip of the sea connecting to another place.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SooperTrooper (Post 5978381)
It's all of them mixed together ! The only thing It's missing is a little pond, or a narrow strip of the sea connecting to another place.

Yeah it's a locked town like Littleroot town that's why it reminds me of it :)

Zeta Sukuna July 17th, 2010 12:58 PM

Never got nostalgic flashbacks, personally, just immense joy at the reset, though if it does happen to people, I doubt it was meant to do so. It is to show that this is far, far away from the other places, and had their route system placed at about the same time as Kanto or something like that. (In-game continuity)

However, with the snowy mountains, I'm hoping we have something kind of like Mt. Coronet, only you don't go through it as many times as you did in Sinnoh. Like a snowy, mountainous part, that would be as awesome as the desert, in my opinion anyway.

Pokekid1995 July 17th, 2010 2:42 PM

i believe that route 1 will be like any other first route except hoenn it will have a bird and a rodent lv. 2-4 and thats it skrry to burst everyones bubbles of high hopes but its very predictible. one thing i know and that nobody can say im wrong about this. route 1 with the bird and rodent will be the start of a grand adventure in isshu.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 2:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokekid1995 (Post 5978511)
i believe that route 1 will be like any other first route except hoenn it will have a bird and a rodent lv. 2-4 and thats it skrry to burst everyones bubbles of high hopes but its very predictible. one thing i know and that nobody can say im wrong about this. route 1 with the bird and rodent will be the start of a grand adventure in isshu.

Yeah this will most likely be the case unless they pull a Hoenn on us ;)

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 2:53 PM

I love how MRAS lifted the mood around here x)


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