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Route 1?
Why are we starting at route 1? I do think it is a fresh new concept for a new gen, but what do you think?
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We're starting at Route 1 because, as mentioned, Isshu is a far off place, so far away in fact, that they believe they were the first. So, here we are, starting over once more. They said this in CoroCoro.
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it should be 301, or 1001, I don't see why they would use the same route as Kanto, unless the route either looks just like kanto, or this is the last pokemon game. I just don't see why.
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Well each country has it's own set of numbered highways don't they? Maybe this is the same?
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lol well if it's a far off region, why would they have knowledge that Kanto has the same road names?
I'm glad they "reset" the route names again. |
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I'm not mad, I don't really care, and I didn't think about the fact that it IS a far off region... until then I just didn't see any reason why, that's all. Where did you see that piece of info lennoccm8?
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Yeah me too :). From the pic we saw of the entrance to the route it looks different than Kanto's route 1 and the best looking starting route :)
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I mean, they did have a pattern. Kanto was the first game, so it started with route 1.
Johto picked up right where kanto left off, because it was connected to kanto. Hoenn started with route 101, because it wasn't connected to Johto OR Kanto. Sinnoh then started after another 100, jumping up to 201. It would have made sense to me that Isshu would have been 301. |
http://pokejungle.net/2010/07/13/hi-rez-scans/
look at first scan of corocoro to see some shots of the beginning town/route~ :3 |
k, thanks a ton, I'll look at those now.
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http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad260/SooperTrooperGFX/Map.png That's how far Isshu is ... probably farther. |
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http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx264/MistahDude/world_map.jpg?t=1279157318 |
I'm gradually becoming accustomed to the "route reset", and it does make sense when one considers how far Isshu is relative to Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh. There's not really a reason to "continue" from a previous region. The quirks I have with the old system are that routes could potentially head into the 1000s after a few gens, which would feel a bit weird. Personally, I have never heard any route in the real world reference the thousands digit - but hey, this is Pokemon, not the real world! :P
Also, I discourage the 'skip' made whenever a new region is introduced. For example, with the Hoenn-Sinnoh jump, where are Routes 135-200? Johto-Hoenn is more notable, I guess, since Routes 47 and 48 just happened to randomly pop up in Johto in HGSS while they were nowhere to be seen in GSC (I guess routes can be built whenever one feels like making one, though...). Anyway, if they're going to reset the routes now, I'd prefer it if Game Freak did it for every region in the future. Otherwise, if we find out in Gen VI that there's another region reasonably close in proximity to Isshu (that we haven't heard of yet, akin to the Kanto-Johto scenario) and they pick up from where Isshu left up, the routes might get confusing? People might be like, "which Route 28? In Johto or Isshu?" or something like that. And if we just so happen to get another remake of RBY on the 3DS (which I hope doesn't happen, for fear of redundancy) and are able to transfer Isshu's new Pokemon to that game, there's going to have to be an extra descriptor in the summary screen discerning Kanto's Routes from Isshu's. Yeah, it's a major stretch, but still a possibility, albeit a slim one. :) |
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Shanghai a lot :) I don't mind if it does turn out to be China as I love China! |
Eh, this thread should merge with the Isshu Region Thread... but they did say that there was going to be a rebirth of the franchise. Also makes me think this won't be the last region. It's just the Kanto of another ride!
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It's not like there aren't a million Lincoln Ave.'s or a billion Washington Streets
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Yeah it is a fresh start :) It's also another sign of the reboot they talked about :)
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I just hope there is a route 69 xD
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Wonder how many routes Isshu will have 25 like Kanto :P
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Kanto had like 27-28 in Johto.
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Oh yeah it did but will it have 25 like in RBGY or 28 like in GSC
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I, for one, like the route reset. It ensures that Pokémon world-wise, we are for sure in another nation. Meaning we will finally get to see outside of the unnamed Pokémon nation and see another nation and... (wait for it)... we could get an international Pokédex. Finally sorting out all the evolution lines correctly and such.
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It kind of makes sense to start over again anyway. After all, each regional pokedex has a different #001 Pokemon, and the only reason the old routes didn't restart was the possibility of interconnectedness like in GSC. With Isshu being so far away, this will not pose a problem
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Anyway, on topic, I love the fact that they're resetting the route numbers. Honestly, I'm not gonna remember route 311 if I love it, All I'm going to remember is "That one path near that one town with the grass and stuff." However, with simpler numbers like Route 1,2,3 etc., I'll actually remember the names of the places I'm going. |
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Well sorry about getting off topic :P
So how many routes will this region have Sinnoh had 30 those being 201 to 230 :) |
Even if Isshu is a new start, it only applies to the games and not the anime.....
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I don't really care about the route names. They are not important, pokemon that lurk in there are.
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I really don't see what the big deal is. Only makes sense to restart the road numberings considering the area is so far away from the rest of the regions. I like it and it only helps to reinforce the idea that Isshu is far away.
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i think its China Yin and Yang pokemon. New country=new begining thats why
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I think it. It's a really good idea. It gives the games that "fresh" feel.
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I love the idea of them starting over. it will feel like it's 1998 again if they do it right...-_- (what am i saying here?)
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Tiem to go back to just the 100 please? :) |
It's things like this which are encouraging me to warm up to the new generation... it's seperating it from the past ones so it feels like a new title.
It's more like Game Freak are saying "Here look at this Kitty I got you!" rather than "Look, we replaced your old puppy with a newer, bigger, better looking one!" |
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Well to me it doesnt make much difference as long as its not, as someone stated, the last game :O I mean its not like its the end of the world... |
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Haha read the last line of the first paragraph... US 69 is noteworthy as having had numerous reassurance shields stolen because of the sexual connotation of its route number Also more evidence that its in New York/Eastern Part of US... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_1 |
new nation new highway numberings. simple as that. I believe it's already confirmed Isshu isn't in Japan like the other games are.
why should lets say, USA, fallow the number system after Japan? It just doesn't work like that. this also leads to another question- what about national pokedex? if they are restarting the route numbers for isshu because it's another nation what about the pokedex numbers? |
I like that they're starting off at Route 1. It just enhances the feeling that this is a new beginning for Pokemon.
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Its a new country, which mean new route system, new pokemon and new adventures...
It Make sense.. |
when i first played sapphire, i saw the 1st route was 101 so i ended up rhinking we would go to johto before...so starting at route 1 causes less confusion
and with johto and kanto being connected, it makes since that they share the same route system speaking of route 101, why did it jump from 46 to 101? |
Route 1 theory could also mean Boston :D
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i hope its still brilliant, i have high hopes for our new route 1 :D |
Most of you keep saying that Isshu is based around / off of America. We don't know this. Many people think that it's Shanghai too, so just remember that.
Anyways, yes, the reason we are starting at Route 1 again is because Isshu is so far away. I'm pretty sure that the National Dex will remain the same, but this time with the added Pokemon. |
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I don't care what the region is based off of. I care about the story, the ability to fight tougher trainers in-game, and the Pokemon.
Route 1 is a nice fresh start. I don't think anyone will really get confused. |
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Not going to happen. First off there was 151 original pokemon. second it is confirmed that Black and White is compatable with older games. Therefore all pokemon will be back. |
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Well we will have a International pokedex instead of a National since it takes place in a different country or maybe the Continental pokedex if Isshu does take place in China ;) |
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I really thought it would be Route 301. =\ I guess you can never be too sure. =P
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Well, you never know. It could be based off of somewhere in India. It's all up to Game Freak. |
All of the known regions of the main series were part of the map of Japan. Maybe Isshu is somewhere else like in North America! Who knows!
I love to listen to Pokémon music on my computer. When I'll be searching for route 1, I'm sure I'll always click on the wrong one XD [QUOTE=Jerme;5972238]when i first played sapphire, i saw the 1st route was 101 so i ended up rhinking we would go to johto before...so starting at route 1 causes less confusion and with johto and kanto being connected, it makes since that they share the same route system speaking of route 101, why did it jump from 46 to 101?[I guess there might be some regions between Johto and Hoenn someday and then we'll see routes 49 (47 and 48 are in HG and SS) to route 100.] |
I'm glad they're calling the first route Route 1, since that's what I would expect from a region located far from the other four.
That, and 301 sounds pretty excessive to me. :/ |
I don't care. Was it Route 1 or Route 598½ all I care is Pokeymanz on that route.
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I, for one, love the idea that Isshu is in America, because then we get to host a pokemon game for once! SO COOL!!:cheeky:
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I wouldn't mind eather. If they expand region areas then they will eventually in in my general area and that be awsome.
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YAYAYAYAYYAAY!!
I was expecting the Sinnoh region to start off with ''Route 1'', instead I got a whopping ''201''. It's great that there's going to be a new route system *song and dance* |
I love how there is a new route system. I was disappointed in both Hoenn and Sinnoh when they just tacked on an extra hundred. It makes it seem as if it is a new journey, and that's good, at least to me, anyway.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dLNZWejhqE&playnext_from=TL&videos=yaFtqJ7d0jU&feature=recentu this is proof people isshu is shanghai china deal with it and get used to it
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Said bridge could always be the Brooklyn Bridge, or one of the other thousand bridges in New York.
Besides, there wouldn't be a route reset if it were based on Shanghai. China and Japan are pretty close to each other, especially when compared to New York. Also, a good few of the species in the region are New York natives; pigeons, eagles, chipmunks, blue jays... |
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Oh right. Kill joy. Yes it's New York, the Eagle seals that deal T_T |
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I live in England and technically France is closer than some places in my own country, however I would still class it as 'far away' in comparison. This topic isn't about the LOCATION it's about the ROUTES. ------ Personally I like that the routes start again, but I'd have prefered it if they had individual names rather than just numbers to give them a bit of character and make them more memorable. |
Ahh a nice new fresh start :)
That's what everyone likes .. |
I like the idea of starting fresh again, it makes sense. :)
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It doesent really matter to me the starting fresh thing, its just a route. But yes i think its intersting.
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Hopefully that finally gets my point across. |
Well I expect to see the Chipmunk in route 1 as well as the pigeon :P
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Find me a picture (google earth) of a place that resembles isshu as much as shanghai does, which also has a lake the exact same place as in isshu, that has a mottor way that connect the lower middle part of the center land to the right piece of land and ends with a twirl. LIKE IN ISSHU!!! Oh and if you do happen to stumble across such a bridge, please show me its pointy top. Oh and also point out to me where on your manhattan map you have mountains. oh and i really find it incredible (other picture of shanghai i found on PC) That shanghai has an orange bridge where the Isshu orange bridge is. Hmmmm.. |
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Well no one has actually confirmed Kanto,Johto, Hoenn or Sinnoh being based in Japan it's only a Theory, a very convincing theory...more than the Theory of Evolution at that :P |
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Blue Jays are not native to New York, nor are chipmunks or Pigeons. The Eagle has not been revealed as an American based Pokemon. Much speculation has gone on about it's origin. More people are saying that It's based off of a native Chinese eagle. You're thinking these creatures are 'native' to New York because they're there right now; they're not. Don't make assumptions without proper information to back you up. I also quoted this to show we need to get a little bit more back on topic; we're talking about the Pokemon and origins now, we need to talk about route 1. Personally, i'm happy to have reset the routes. It shows that it is indeed a far away country, and that we have a fresh new region to deal with. |
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And yes, I do agree that Shanghai has a lot going for it's point. But the whole point I was getting across was that One: Nobody knows for sure what Isshu is. Nobody but the creators. We haven't played the game, we've only seen a map. How do you know that an NPC in Hiun City won't be like "Oh, I've finally made it. Hiun, the big Apple! It's so magnificent!" there could be dialog like that inside. and Two: All of these posts are irrelevant, because the point of this thread is to converse over the reset route numbers. This post and those before it are irrelevant to the subject at hand. This debate belongs in the Isshu Region thread, sorry to mini-mod. I wasn't using my post to debate your theory. And your theory personally I enjoy. You never said that "ISSHU IS SHANGHAI I KNOW IT IS PROVEN". You said "no other place resembles it more". I find that true. But when people say things are proven or they're absolutely right, I don't accept that. Again, whether Isshu = Shanghai or Isshu = New York, it doesn't matter one bit to me. But nothing is proven and it makes me mad when people say it is. Now, let's stop talking about this. Because, this thread if for routes. |
I hope we get snowy routes like route 201 in Sinnoh :)
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Anyways, I wanted to say that the starting town, which leads to Route 1, vaguely reminds me of Twin leaf / Pallet Town. If you look at it enough, it kind of brings back the memory of those two towns ... do you think that was meant to happen? Quote:
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Never got nostalgic flashbacks, personally, just immense joy at the reset, though if it does happen to people, I doubt it was meant to do so. It is to show that this is far, far away from the other places, and had their route system placed at about the same time as Kanto or something like that. (In-game continuity)
However, with the snowy mountains, I'm hoping we have something kind of like Mt. Coronet, only you don't go through it as many times as you did in Sinnoh. Like a snowy, mountainous part, that would be as awesome as the desert, in my opinion anyway. |
i believe that route 1 will be like any other first route except hoenn it will have a bird and a rodent lv. 2-4 and thats it skrry to burst everyones bubbles of high hopes but its very predictible. one thing i know and that nobody can say im wrong about this. route 1 with the bird and rodent will be the start of a grand adventure in isshu.
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I love how MRAS lifted the mood around here x)
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