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Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 6:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokekid1995 (Post 5977218)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dLNZWejhqE&playnext_from=TL&videos=yaFtqJ7d0jU&feature=recentu this is proof people isshu is shanghai china deal with it and get used to it

Yes yes yes! I didn't want it to be New York :D The curved road at the end and Lake sealed the deal :D

Kam the Narwhal July 17th, 2010 6:39 AM

Said bridge could always be the Brooklyn Bridge, or one of the other thousand bridges in New York.

Besides, there wouldn't be a route reset if it were based on Shanghai. China and Japan are pretty close to each other, especially when compared to New York.

Also, a good few of the species in the region are New York natives; pigeons, eagles, chipmunks, blue jays...

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 6:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kam the Narwhal (Post 5977309)
Said bridge could always be the Brooklyn Bridge, or one of the other thousand bridges in New York.

Besides, there wouldn't be a route reset if it were based on Shanghai. China and Japan are pretty close to each other, especially when compared to New York.

Also, a good few of the species in the region are New York natives; pigeons, eagles, chipmunks, blue jays...


Oh right. Kill joy. Yes it's New York, the Eagle seals that deal T_T

Myles July 17th, 2010 6:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kam the Narwhal (Post 5977309)
Besides, there wouldn't be a route reset if it were based on Shanghai. China and Japan are pretty close to each other, especially when compared to New York..

Yes, Hokkaido/Sinnoh was further away from the other regions then Shanghai is.

Mana July 17th, 2010 6:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Myles (Post 5977322)
Yes, Hokkaido/Sinnoh was further away from the other regions then Shanghai is.

Yes but they are all part of the same country, whilst Shanghai and "Hoenn" are separated by 900km of ocean.

I live in England and technically France is closer than some places in my own country, however I would still class it as 'far away' in comparison.

This topic isn't about the LOCATION it's about the ROUTES.

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Personally I like that the routes start again, but I'd have prefered it if they had individual names rather than just numbers to give them a bit of character and make them more memorable.

яankurusu July 17th, 2010 9:10 AM

Ahh a nice new fresh start :)
That's what everyone likes ..

Doogle3097 July 17th, 2010 10:51 AM

I like the idea of starting fresh again, it makes sense. :)

Sora's Nobody July 17th, 2010 11:41 AM

It doesent really matter to me the starting fresh thing, its just a route. But yes i think its intersting.

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokekid1995 (Post 5976841)
actually its shanghai china hiun city is in china compare a map of them both and see

THE COUNTRY THE REGION IS BASED OFF COULD JUST AS LIKELY BE EITHER SHANGHAI OR MANHATTAN, EITHER PLACE HAS EQUAL SIMILARITIES. NEITHER IS, OR PROBABLY WILL NEVER CONFIRMED. YOUR VIDEO PROVES NOTHING. YOU CANNOT STATE YOUR SPECULATION AS FACT WITHOUT CONFIRMATION BY NINTENDO AND/OR GAMEFREAK. FURTHERMORE, THIS ISN'T EVEN THE RIGHT TOPIC FOR THIS, CONSIDERING THIS IS TALKING ABOUT ROUTES AND YOU'RE DEBATING ISSHU'S ORIGINS. PLEASE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE SO IGNORANT, DO IT ELSEWHERE.

Hopefully that finally gets my point across.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 11:56 AM

Well I expect to see the Chipmunk in route 1 as well as the pigeon :P

Sora's Nobody July 17th, 2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978169)
THE COUNTRY THE REGION IS BASED OFF COULD JUST AS LIKELY BE EITHER SHANGHAI OR MANHATTAN, EITHER PLACE HAS EQUAL SIMILARITIES. NEITHER IS, OR PROBABLY WILL NEVER CONFIRMED. YOUR VIDEO PROVES NOTHING. YOU CANNOT STATE YOUR SPECULATION AS FACT WITHOUT CONFIRMATION BY NINTENDO AND/OR GAMEFREAK. FURTHERMORE, THIS ISN'T EVEN THE RIGHT TOPIC FOR THIS, CONSIDERING THIS IS TALKING ABOUT ROUTES AND YOU'RE DEBATING ISSHU'S ORIGINS. PLEASE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE SO IGNORANT, DO IT ELSEWHERE.

Hopefully that finally gets my point across.

WOW. Did you take your medication today?

Find me a picture (google earth) of a place that resembles isshu as much as shanghai does, which also has a lake the exact same place as in isshu, that has a mottor way that connect the lower middle part of the center land to the right piece of land and ends with a twirl. LIKE IN ISSHU!!!


Oh and if you do happen to stumble across such a bridge, please show me its pointy top. Oh and also point out to me where on your manhattan map you have mountains.

oh and i really find it incredible (other picture of shanghai i found on PC) That shanghai has an orange bridge where the Isshu orange bridge is. Hmmmm..

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 5978226)
WOW. Did you take your medication today?

Find me a picture (google earth) of a place that resembles isshu as much as shanghai does, which also has a lake the exact same place as in isshu, that has a mottor way that connect the lower middle part of the center land to the right piece of land and ends with a twirl. LIKE IN ISSHU!!!


Oh and if you do happen to stumble across such a bridge, please show me its pointy top. Oh and also point out to me where on your manhattan map you have mountains.

oh and i really find it incredible (other picture of shanghai i found on PC) That shanghai has an orange bridge where the Isshu orange bridge is. Hmmmm..

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978169)
THE COUNTRY THE REGION IS BASED OFF COULD JUST AS LIKELY BE EITHER SHANGHAI OR MANHATTAN, EITHER PLACE HAS EQUAL SIMILARITIES. NEITHER IS, OR PROBABLY WILL NEVER CONFIRMED. YOUR VIDEO PROVES NOTHING. YOU CANNOT STATE YOUR SPECULATION AS FACT WITHOUT CONFIRMATION BY NINTENDO AND/OR GAMEFREAK. FURTHERMORE, THIS ISN'T EVEN THE RIGHT TOPIC FOR THIS, CONSIDERING THIS IS TALKING ABOUT ROUTES AND YOU'RE DEBATING ISSHU'S ORIGINS. PLEASE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE SO IGNORANT, DO IT ELSEWHERE.

Hopefully that finally gets my point across.

wow that was kind of Harsh Sora...but nice comparing :)
Well no one has actually confirmed Kanto,Johto, Hoenn or Sinnoh being based in Japan it's only a Theory, a very convincing theory...more than the Theory of Evolution at that :P

Sora's Nobody July 17th, 2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978265)


wow that was kind of Harsh Sora...but nice comparing :)
Well no one has actually confirmed Kanto,Johto, Hoenn or Sinnoh being based in Japan it's only a Theory, a very convincing theory...more than the Theory of Evolution at that :P

yyeah but like isshu has been found to look extremely much as shanghai. Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh, look extremely much as their "Japanese counter parts" i mean yes. what COULD this be http://i28.*.com/4r92qb.png

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 5978304)
yyeah but like isshu has been found to look extremely much as shanghai. Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh, look extremely much as their "Japanese counter parts" i mean yes. what COULD this be http://i28.*.com/4r92qb.png

Yeah they do...maybe we should talk about this in the Isshu thread before some people say we are going off topic...

Mortalis July 17th, 2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kam the Narwhal (Post 5977309)
Said bridge could always be the Brooklyn Bridge, or one of the other thousand bridges in New York.

Besides, there wouldn't be a route reset if it were based on Shanghai. China and Japan are pretty close to each other, especially when compared to New York.

Also, a good few of the species in the region are New York natives; pigeons, eagles, chipmunks, blue jays...

Yes, there would still be a reset if it was based on Shanghai. Shanghai, compared to the previous regions, is very far away from the regions that were based of Hokkaido and such.

Blue Jays are not native to New York, nor are chipmunks or Pigeons. The Eagle has not been revealed as an American based Pokemon. Much speculation has gone on about it's origin. More people are saying that It's based off of a native Chinese eagle. You're thinking these creatures are 'native' to New York because they're there right now; they're not.

Don't make assumptions without proper information to back you up. I also quoted this to show we need to get a little bit more back on topic; we're talking about the Pokemon and origins now, we need to talk about route 1.

Personally, i'm happy to have reset the routes. It shows that it is indeed a far away country, and that we have a fresh new region to deal with.

Bloothump July 17th, 2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 5978226)
WOW. Did you take your medication today?

Find me a picture (google earth) of a place that resembles isshu as much as shanghai does, which also has a lake the exact same place as in isshu, that has a mottor way that connect the lower middle part of the center land to the right piece of land and ends with a twirl. LIKE IN ISSHU!!!


Oh and if you do happen to stumble across such a bridge, please show me its pointy top. Oh and also point out to me where on your manhattan map you have mountains.

oh and i really find it incredible (other picture of shanghai i found on PC) That shanghai has an orange bridge where the Isshu orange bridge is. Hmmmm..

I don't take any medication, thank you. :-)
And yes, I do agree that Shanghai has a lot going for it's point. But the whole point I was getting across was that

One: Nobody knows for sure what Isshu is. Nobody but the creators. We haven't played the game, we've only seen a map. How do you know that an NPC in Hiun City won't be like "Oh, I've finally made it. Hiun, the big Apple! It's so magnificent!" there could be dialog like that inside.

and Two: All of these posts are irrelevant, because the point of this thread is to converse over the reset route numbers. This post and those before it are irrelevant to the subject at hand. This debate belongs in the Isshu Region thread, sorry to mini-mod.

I wasn't using my post to debate your theory. And your theory personally I enjoy. You never said that "ISSHU IS SHANGHAI I KNOW IT IS PROVEN". You said "no other place resembles it more". I find that true. But when people say things are proven or they're absolutely right, I don't accept that.

Again, whether Isshu = Shanghai or Isshu = New York, it doesn't matter one bit to me. But nothing is proven and it makes me mad when people say it is. Now, let's stop talking about this. Because, this thread if for routes.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:51 PM

I hope we get snowy routes like route 201 in Sinnoh :)

Mortalis July 17th, 2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloothump (Post 5978364)
I don't take any medication, thank you. :-)
And yes, I do agree that Shanghai has a lot going for it's point. But the whole point I was getting across was that

One: Nobody knows for sure what Isshu is. Nobody but the creators. We haven't played the game, we've only seen a map. How do you know that an NPC in Hiun City won't be like "Oh, I've finally made it. Hiun, the big Apple! It's so magnificent!" there could be dialog like that inside.

and Two: All of these posts are irrelevant, because the point of this thread is to converse over the reset route numbers. This post and those before it are irrelevant to the subject at hand. This debate belongs in the Isshu Region thread, sorry to mini-mod.

I wasn't using my post to debate your theory. And your theory personally I enjoy. You never said that "ISSHU IS SHANGHAI I KNOW IT IS PROVEN". You said "no other place resembles it more". I find that true. But when people say things are proven or they're absolutely right, I don't accept that.

Again, whether Isshu = Shanghai or Isshu = New York, it doesn't matter one bit to me. But nothing is proven and it makes me mad when people say it is. Now, let's stop talking about this. Because, this thread if for routes.

Please, everyone read this quoted post; it explains what the posters here need to see, and why we need to get back to the main topic at hand; the route reset.

Anyways, I wanted to say that the starting town, which leads to Route 1, vaguely reminds me of Twin leaf / Pallet Town. If you look at it enough, it kind of brings back the memory of those two towns ... do you think that was meant to happen?

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978370)
I hope we get snowy routes like route 201 in Sinnoh :)

Those are so much fun, it's kind of like a puzzle; you have to avoid or battle trainers, find your way, and try and find buried items. Awesome route, none the less.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SooperTrooper (Post 5978373)
Please, everyone read this quoted post; it explains what the posters here need to see, and why we need to get back to the main topic at hand; the route reset.

Anyways, I wanted to say that the starting town, which leads to Route 1, vaguely reminds me of Twin leaf / Pallet Town. If you look at it enough, it kind of brings back the memory of those two towns ... do you think that was meant to happen?



Those are so much fun; it's kind of like a puzzle, you have to avoid or battle trainers, find your way, and try and find buried items. So much fun.

It also reminds me of those but also Littleroot and Newbark town...

Mortalis July 17th, 2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5978377)

It also reminds me of those but also Littleroot and Newbark town...

It's all of them mixed together ! The only thing It's missing is a little pond, or a narrow strip of the sea connecting to another place.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SooperTrooper (Post 5978381)
It's all of them mixed together ! The only thing It's missing is a little pond, or a narrow strip of the sea connecting to another place.

Yeah it's a locked town like Littleroot town that's why it reminds me of it :)

Zeta Sukuna July 17th, 2010 12:58 PM

Never got nostalgic flashbacks, personally, just immense joy at the reset, though if it does happen to people, I doubt it was meant to do so. It is to show that this is far, far away from the other places, and had their route system placed at about the same time as Kanto or something like that. (In-game continuity)

However, with the snowy mountains, I'm hoping we have something kind of like Mt. Coronet, only you don't go through it as many times as you did in Sinnoh. Like a snowy, mountainous part, that would be as awesome as the desert, in my opinion anyway.

Pokekid1995 July 17th, 2010 2:42 PM

i believe that route 1 will be like any other first route except hoenn it will have a bird and a rodent lv. 2-4 and thats it skrry to burst everyones bubbles of high hopes but its very predictible. one thing i know and that nobody can say im wrong about this. route 1 with the bird and rodent will be the start of a grand adventure in isshu.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 17th, 2010 2:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokekid1995 (Post 5978511)
i believe that route 1 will be like any other first route except hoenn it will have a bird and a rodent lv. 2-4 and thats it skrry to burst everyones bubbles of high hopes but its very predictible. one thing i know and that nobody can say im wrong about this. route 1 with the bird and rodent will be the start of a grand adventure in isshu.

Yeah this will most likely be the case unless they pull a Hoenn on us ;)

Bluerang1 July 17th, 2010 2:53 PM

I love how MRAS lifted the mood around here x)


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