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Kardashian July 15th, 2010 6:49 AM

Ice, Ghost and Fire types!
 
These are some of the most under used types (meaning, we dont have a lot. We need more.

Kanto was good to fire. We got Charizard, Rapidash, Ninetales, Magmar, Arcanine, Flareon, and Moltres. Johto we got Magby, TYphlosion and Macgargo, Entei and Ho-oh. Hoenn got Blaziken, Torkoal and Camerupt. Sinnoh gave us Infernape, Heatran and Magmortar. I feel like were getting less and less each region.

For Ice, Kantop gave us Dewgong, Cloyster, Jynx, Lapras, and Articuno. not bad. Johto gave us a few, Piloswine, Sneasel, and Delibird. Hoenn was pretty good for ice and gave us Glalie, Regice and Walrein. Sinnoh was equally as good and gave us Glaceon, Mamoswine, Froslass and Abomasnow. Ice is getting pokemon at a steady rate, however that rate is 2-5 pokemon a region.

Kanto gave us Gengar for ghosts. Johto gave us Misdreavus. Hoenn gave us thhe largest amount yet with Sableye, Banette, and Dusclops. Sinnoh gave us relatuvely the same as Hoenn with Dusknoir, Rotom, Froslass, Spiritomb, and Drifblim. Ghosts are increasing, which is good. Let's hope it stays this way.

Anyone agree that we need more of these types?

luigimario94 July 15th, 2010 6:59 AM

I want a Ghost/Fire that is a spirit made of fire.

JP July 15th, 2010 7:19 AM

I'm hoping we see a good amount of Fire and Ghost types. Ice types... not so much considering the region doesn't look all that "cold", but I wouldn't mind it.

Kanto_Johto July 15th, 2010 7:38 AM

I don't really care for Ice types all that much. Most Water types can learn Ice type attacks.

Is that all Sinnoh gave to Fire? They might as well have just abandoned the type all together, barring Infernape's evolution line. We could have managed without Magmorter and Heatran is one of the most disgraceful Pokemon I've ever seen. But yeah, they should consider more fire types for this Generation. But so far we have Pokabu and that fire ape thing, so it's looking up.

The Ghost type I personally don't really care for all that much, considering I hardly ever use them.

Zeturic July 15th, 2010 7:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kardashian (Post 5971513)
Kanto gave us Gengar for ghosts. Johto gave us Misdreavus. Hoenn gave us thhe largest amount yet with Sableye, Banette, and Dusclops. Sinnoh gave us relatuvely the same as Hoenn with Dusknoir, Rotom, Froslass, Spiritomb, and Drifblim. Ghosts are increasing, which is good. Let's hope it stays this way.

Everyone forgets Shedinja. Why? It's one of my favorite Pokemon...

We don't need many more fire types, we've a lot. Ghost-types and Ice-types, definitely yes.

Also, the word you're looking for by saying "under used types" may be under utilized.

Eon-Rider July 15th, 2010 8:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Bear (Post 5971697)
Also, the word you're looking for by saying "under used types" may be under utilized.

I wouldn't use either term.

To be quite frank, I don't think it's realistic for a balance in the quantity of types in the series. Logically, types such as Ground, Water, Grass, Bug etc would outnumber others which is exactly the trend that Nintendo has been following.

Weavile05 July 15th, 2010 8:26 AM

ghosts are pretty rare, which once I think about it, that's probably how it should be. The only ice type I want is an ice steel, that would be the ultmate counter to dragons! then again, almost all of them can learn fire type moves, which that poke would be 4x weak too...

Blueknight July 15th, 2010 9:04 AM

I would like a decent Ice type pokemon. They are personally my favorite type. Ice types are often overshadowed because of their 4 weaknesses and one resistance. I would like something like froslass, except for better offensive stats. An Ice/Steel type would be good if it had solid rock as a ability. The only decent typings with Ice would be:
-Dragon/Ice
-Ice/Electric
-Ice/Ghost

Ghost types need to be paired up with more types like steel, rock, and water.

I think we have a lot of fire types, but sinnoh and Hoenn didn't add that much.

Weavile05 July 15th, 2010 9:12 AM

we need more ice types with speed like Weavile.
the only other ice type I can think of with that speed is Froslass. and Arcues holding the icicle plate, but I don't count that one.

Froslass is even then only a possibility, I don't really know what it's speed is, but I imagine it's pretty fast.

Timbjerr July 15th, 2010 9:14 AM

I'd like to see a Fire/Ghost willowisp pokemon...more for the execution of the concept than for anything particularly beneficial about the typing, but still... XD

For a good battle pokemon, I'd like a bulky Ice/Rock for both Sandstorm and Hail support. :P

Gymnotide July 15th, 2010 9:16 AM

Haha In Diamond / Pearl the only wild Fire-type you could catch before the E4 was Ponyta.
They added a few in Platinum, but Fire was still a pretty under-represented type in G4 :)

Weavile05 July 15th, 2010 9:20 AM

yeah, if you needed a fire type in DP you pretty much had to pick Chimchar (it's waaaaaaay better than ponyta)!

Kirbychu July 15th, 2010 9:55 AM

Don't forget Electric, we need a lot more of those too.

Nikorasu July 15th, 2010 10:12 AM

The less there are, the better they are.

Magmarizer July 15th, 2010 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 5971942)
Haha In Diamond / Pearl the only wild Fire-type you could catch before the E4 was Ponyta.
They added a few in Platinum, but Fire was still a pretty under-represented type in G4 :)

If you had surf you could get magmar from feugo iron works. thats what i did.

MistahDude July 15th, 2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Weavile05 (Post 5971801)
ghosts are pretty rare, which once I think about it, that's probably how it should be. The only ice type I want is an ice steel, that would be the ultmate counter to dragons! then again, almost all of them can learn fire type moves, which that poke would be 4x weak too...

Not all dragons are weak to Ice and most if not all dragons can learn fire and ground moves.

rocky505 July 15th, 2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmarizer (Post 5972002)
If you had surf you could get magmar from feugo iron works. thats what i did.

magmar wasn't there in DP that was only in Platinum.

n64benowitz177 July 15th, 2010 11:10 AM

We seriously need more fire types, Because in Diamond and Pearl if you didn't take Internape you almost had to catch a Ponyta in order to have a fire type. Since it was the only one available.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 15th, 2010 11:15 AM

Actually we have two fire pokemon and one fire legendary so far those being: Pokabu's, Rashiram, and the fire ape. So far its going up for fire, though the amount matches that of sinnoh's fire pokemon though I hope there will be more.

Jerme July 15th, 2010 1:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kanto_Johto (Post 5971657)
I don't really care for Ice types all that much. Most Water types can learn Ice type attacks.

Is that all Sinnoh gave to Fire? They might as well have just abandoned the type all together, barring Infernape's evolution line. We could have managed without Magmorter and Heatran is one of the most disgraceful Pokemon I've ever seen. But yeah, they should consider more fire types for this Generation. But so far we have Pokabu and that fire ape thing, so it's looking up.

The Ghost type I personally don't really care for all that much, considering I hardly ever use them.

what you mean? lol

and shedinja needs to be immune to sandstorm, hail, and it would be perfect

Tsavo July 15th, 2010 1:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rocky505 (Post 5972011)
magmar wasn't there in DP that was only in Platinum.

Magby is there if you have your LeafGreen in the slot.


OT, I could always use more Ghosts (give Gengar a rest for once). Dual-typing would be much appreciated.

Dominus Temporis July 15th, 2010 1:11 PM

I did a little math, and there are 35 Pokemon out of the 493 from Gens I-IV. That's around 7%. In comparison, Water, the most abundant type, has 93 Pokemon, or about 19%. So while I think the rarity of various types makes a bit of sense ecologically speaking (Dragon and Ghost are the rarest types, by the way), I do think they could add one or two new families in Gen V without going overboard. I like Pokabu and Reshiram, don't get me wrong. But Hihidaruma is pretty cool, and it's neither starter nor legendary, so I want to see what other Fire-types they could come up with for us. If they're as good as that ape, I think we would have some really good ones.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 15th, 2010 1:21 PM

yeah I like Hihidaruma as well, I am hoping for a new Fire/steel pokemon that isn't heatran (note: I love heatran I just want another fire/steel) :)

MistahDude July 15th, 2010 1:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominus Temporis (Post 5972318)
I did a little math, and there are 35 Pokemon out of the 493 from Gens I-IV. That's around 7%. In comparison, Water, the most abundant type, has 93 Pokemon, or about 19%. So while I think the rarity of various types makes a bit of sense ecologically speaking (Dragon and Ghost are the rarest types, by the way), I do think they could add one or two new families in Gen V without going overboard. I like Pokabu and Reshiram, don't get me wrong. But Hihidaruma is pretty cool, and it's neither starter nor legendary, so I want to see what other Fire-types they could come up with for us. If they're as good as that ape, I think we would have some really good ones.

Not to forget that Hihidaruma probably evolves.

PalkiaSpace July 15th, 2010 3:15 PM

A Ghost/Dragon (other than Giratina) Would be great.

Same with a Ice/Electric...

But what i really hoped was that we could get some Fire types, with better combinations like Fire/Dragon, Bug/Fire (xD Fire Ant!), or maybe even a Fire/Ice, yet i doubt it.


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