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MistahDude August 14th, 2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by King Gumball (Post 6072507)
We have seen many new Psychic pokemon, so I think psychic will be the most plentiful type in Isshu. Or water, as there are always heaps of water types. I really hope there are more Dark types this time round that dont have Ghost, Grass or Normal as their second typing.

They have shown mostly Fire and Psychic, which is okay but I really want to see more Ghost and Dark types.

MartinJF August 15th, 2010 1:06 AM

I need more fire-types... I really need a non-legendary fire type for my team.... I'm currently stuck with Camerupt...

Darkfire_Danny August 15th, 2010 1:42 AM

I'd like to see more Ice and Ghost types available near the start of games :) In every game you start off by going through small, quiet routes with generic Normal and Bug types, wouldn't it be cool if you started off near an icy mountain and could find a polar bear or snow dog Pokémon? Or even if the ineviatable early-game forest contained ghosts (I suppose this did happen to an extent with Eterna Forest :) ) .

I agree that Fire types are reducing in numbers, but they could be running out of ideas; most Fire types are based on animals which live on rugged kinds of terrain (camel, horse, wolf), what is there left? But as other people have said, I've thought for a while that a Fire/Ghost Pokémon would be cool, like a candle phantom or something :) .

Foodin August 15th, 2010 2:03 AM

As for people saying Ghost and Dragon-types should be rare, I respectfully disagree. The rarity of a pokemon should be based upon how high its stats are, not its typing. For instance, uber-tiers would be the rarest of all because of their very high stats and learnset potential.

The kinds of pokemon I want to see:

-Pure Flying, Ice, Rock, Ghost, Dragon, Dark and Steel-types! These types only have a few single-typed pokemon, while Flying has none.

-Another dual Grass/Dark-type! Nuzleaf/Shiftry or Cacturne are just poor excuses as neither of them have a physical design that makes them appear as if they emphasize the dark arts at all. A grape/berry pokemon line would be much better, as most berries in real-life have a natural dark coloration, or something like Youko Kurama's ojigi plant from Yu Yu Hakusho.

-A non-reptilian Grass-type starter line for once. I thought reptilian characteristics are suppossed to be representative of the Dragon-type.

-More Bug, Grass and Poison-types with at least decent stats.

-More pokemon based upon inanimated objects.

-New type combos that haven't been done before.

-An alternative evo. line for Torchic, so we can one dual Fire/Flying-type that isn't either reptilian or a legendary.

-Some actual ???-type Pokemon. There are already some existing Pokemon, like Ditto and Arceus, who sound like they can fall under that category.

-An Agahnim lookalike. Nintendo owns this character, thus they easily make a pokemon out of him. Probably could another pure Dark-type legendary as well.

Neptun August 15th, 2010 2:27 AM

I want a Ghost type eevee :D

747Jason747 August 15th, 2010 3:16 AM

I wouldn't mind more of these types, especially fire even better would be a Fire/Ghost type.

Ho-Oh August 15th, 2010 3:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MistahDude (Post 6072513)
They have shown mostly Fire and Psychic, which is okay but I really want to see more Ghost and Dark types.

I think the balance between Ghost/Derk/Psyduck will be even.

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Hahahaha what did I just typo. Dark and psychic, that is. I think they're just lulling is into the thought that there will be more Fire/Psychic types, but... I think it'll even up soon pretty much, somewhat like generation 1, I guess.

austy14 August 15th, 2010 9:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6072767)

I think the balance between Ghost/Derk/Psyduck will be even.

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Hahahaha what did I just typo. Dark and psychic, that is.

What's the matter, Psyduck got your tongue? Thats goin my sig, btw. But I would love to see some Ice/Dark/Ghosts near the begining. And sometime I'm gonna check the actual numbers on each type, see how even it actually is. And I would love for some kickin bug Pokemon, because they seem to get so little attention and power.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 15th, 2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinJF (Post 6072566)
I need more fire-types... I really need a non-legendary fire type for my team.... I'm currently stuck with Camerupt...

Well we have one non legendary pokemon family so far :)

Livewire August 15th, 2010 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 6075431)
What's the matter, Psyduck got your tongue? Thats goin my sig, btw. But I would love to see some Ice/Dark/Ghosts near the begining. And sometime I'm gonna check the actual numbers on each type, see how even it actually is. And I would love for some kickin bug Pokemon, because they seem to get so little attention and power.

i think i saw on a scan from poke beach there was a supposed Bug/Dark type on there, now that would be cool, if true that is.

Ankoku Flare August 16th, 2010 12:41 AM

Yeah, so far I know Water and normal types have the highest number.
I would like to see more fighting type, ghost types, and I'm a pyromaniac so I'm hoping some Pokemon with those type with designs to my liking.

Matt-O August 16th, 2010 8:30 AM

I think there should be a Ghost/Steel type, number one because it would be cool and number two so that Scizor can return to sucking.

Kylie-chan August 16th, 2010 8:42 AM

Matt-O, I don't think it'll ever suck, but the metagame is just so naturally anti-Scizor, even without trying. A Ghost/Steel-type would absolutely rock, though, if it's bulky anyway.

BartCiao August 16th, 2010 9:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueknight (Post 5971893)
I would like a decent Ice type pokemon. They are personally my favorite type. Ice types are often overshadowed because of their 4 weaknesses and one resistance. I would like something like froslass, except for better offensive stats. An Ice/Steel type would be good if it had solid rock as a ability. The only decent typings with Ice would be:
-Dragon/Ice
-Ice/Electric
-Ice/Ghost

Ghost types need to be paired up with more types like steel, rock, and water.

I think we have a lot of fire types, but sinnoh and Hoenn didn't add that much.

A Steel/Ghost type would be really weird:D You know, ghosts are not made of solid material, and steel is the most substantial type there is...

Kenshin5 August 16th, 2010 10:13 AM

But its pokemon so there is not always logic behind things. I would prefer there is some more Dark Types just so we can see a Dark Gym for once.

Kylie-chan August 16th, 2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BartCiao (Post 6076857)
A Steel/Ghost type would be really weird:D You know, ghosts are not made of solid material, and steel is the most substantial type there is...

Well, it could simply be something haunted (like that ugly sarcophagus). Or the ghost of a knight in armour?

Ho-Oh August 16th, 2010 8:31 PM

As awesome as a steel/ghost type sounds, that discussion should stay in this thread. However, continue to discuss why we need more of a certain type :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 16th, 2010 8:52 PM

I am hoping for another Ghost/Dark pokemon :)

Sora's Nobody August 16th, 2010 9:18 PM

Hmmm. Its hard for me to think up types but wat about something like Water/Fire, i know, i know not very orignal but it would be really sick.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 16th, 2010 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6078885)
As awesome as a steel/ghost type sounds, that discussion should stay in this thread. However, continue to discuss why we need more of a certain type :)

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 6079001)
Hmmm. Its hard for me to think up types but wat about something like Water/Fire, i know, i know not very orignal but it would be really sick.

gop to that thread for new unique type combos :)
Well I hope we get lots of Ice, I like Ice types a lot, and I want to use them in the main story line :)

austy14 August 17th, 2010 5:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6079005)


gop to that thread for new unique type combos :)
Well I hope we get lots of Ice, I like Ice types a lot, and I want to use them in the main story line :)

I know, I love ice types! And more electric types. Though, if you go to serebii and see the High Link map (too lazy to find a link XD) you'll see where the path starts and goes mroe to the center, passing by the right mountain. There is an electro cave scan somewhere, I'm guessing in that mountain. Maybe you enter early and finally get a nice Ice (and Electric!) type early.

mrunner4home August 17th, 2010 5:47 PM

I definitely want more fire types. I really like the fire type and generation 4 really disappointed me. I didn't choose a fire-type as my starter and as a result got like no fire types all game. very bad...

as for ice, well it would be nice if they added some ice (unintentional rhyme). I mean, freezing is one of the five basic status problems (paralyze, burn, poison, sleep, frozen) but I don't think in all my life of playing pokemon (pretty much since the beginning) I have ever used an ice heal. if I ever got frozen (less than 5 times in ... ever) I considered it luck and fortune. more ice types and less water would be excellent (but some of these ice types need to be able to learn surf).

ghost... well though there aren't many ghost types, the ghost type is still common.it's not like you never see a gastly; they're everywhere. etc. ghosts can get a bit annoying some times... gen. 5 needs it's own ghost but I say don't go crazy

juxta August 17th, 2010 10:17 PM

In my humble opinion they ruined pokemon in the third generation.
Looking at the concepts of fourth generation and fifth generation, the pokemon just look ridiculous. Honestly, they've strayed to far from what pokemon once was.

Jerme August 21st, 2010 4:20 PM

ice types are terrible, they just add weaknesses...look at sneasel. if they could give it water resistance then yea

Livewire August 21st, 2010 5:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerme (Post 6092520)
ice types are terrible, they just add weaknesses...look at sneasel. if they could give it water resistance then yea

You cannot be serious. Ice is one of the strongest offensive types in the game, considering they crush dragon, grass, ground, flying, etc. Go battle against a Life orbed Weavile, or Mamoswine. and watch how they will rip teams apart with proper usage

Back on topic, We need more fire types, specifically fast ones. Infernape cant be the only fire typed sweeper in OU. (scarf tran doesnt count >:p ) And they get rid of pesky scizors, jirachis, and celebi's.


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