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BigBlastoise July 21st, 2010 2:20 AM

Black and White 3D claim bogus?
 
Yo, I have managed to see a lot of leaked photos and videos of the upcoming Black and White title. You know, you get Reshiram in White and all? Well, looking at the images and stuff, I see no difference in the actual graphics department other than the battles.

The battles will have moving sprites, a dynamic camera, and improved battle animations. But the developers claim said that the 3D environment will look even more detailed. I haven't seen a single change. Sure, the camera angle is different, but the overall graphics have not changed a bit. Is this a lie to sell, or are the graphics REALLY improved...?

ifernape-5 July 21st, 2010 2:23 AM

its true graphics have been changed and improved

Mew~ July 21st, 2010 2:31 AM

Okay look at DP:
http://cdn1.gamepro.com/article_img/gamepro/110108-2.jpg
Now look at BW:
http://www.wiinintendo.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/pokemon-black-white-2.jpghttp://www.wiinintendo.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/pokemon-black-white-4.jpg
3D enough for me :D

MrGnawty July 21st, 2010 2:37 AM

I am with Mew. B/W looks so much better graphically than D/P. Sure, it is no true 3D game like, say... Call of Duty, but it is pretty dang good for a handheld game.

o0PinkSquid0o July 21st, 2010 2:39 AM

OP... you've been living under a rock, the main town in the game is completely 3D except for the whole poking out at the screen at you kind of 3D

Logiedan July 21st, 2010 2:57 AM

The angle has dramatically changed for Black and White. You can clearly look at the city and see a big difference, they had taken intense depth and added it into the city.

BigBlastoise July 21st, 2010 3:02 AM

See, the graphics (textures and things) are not new though! Remember in Hearthrome city? That Church? That was just as 3D as the buildings in B/W. See, I don't think the graphics for the environment changed, I think the camera angle did.

MrGnawty July 21st, 2010 3:14 AM

They may not be drastically better, but the graphics ARE better, the camera angel is better, and it IS 3D.

austy14 July 21st, 2010 3:19 AM

Isn't the camera angle what makes it 3D? Of course, it's all an illusion, but it still looks great. A huge improvement from Gen IV

BigBlastoise July 21st, 2010 3:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrGnawty (Post 5988934)
They may not be drastically better, but the graphics ARE better, the camera angel is better, and it IS 3D.

I'd hate to stomp on your parade, but the games since D/P were 3D. I am just asking if there is a difference other than the illusion the camera angle gives you?

myrrh25 July 21st, 2010 3:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBlastoise (Post 5988947)
I'd hate to stomp on your parade, but the games since D/P were 3D. I am just asking if there is a difference other than the illusion the camera angle gives you?

Have you watched ANY of the videos of gameplay? Any AT ALL?

XEL July 21st, 2010 3:41 AM

I'm pretty sure to get the full 3D experience, you'll need to purchase the 3DS, which I plan on doing anyways. Keep in mind nothing can be truly 3D without glasses or whatever technology they are using on the 3DS.

JakeyBoy July 21st, 2010 3:42 AM

I'm very much with OP here, it doesn't look more 3D in the slightest. Except the trees, which are still not 3D, but done better than they were, with layers now. However, I don't remember them saying it would have different graphics.

Mew~ July 21st, 2010 4:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austy14 (Post 5988937)
Isn't the camera angle what makes it 3D? Of course, it's all an illusion, but it still looks great. A huge improvement from Gen IV

An illusion, you do know the games going to be on the DS, not the 3DS xD

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBlastoise (Post 5988916)
See, the graphics (textures and things) are not new though! Remember in Hearthrome city? That Church? That was just as 3D as the buildings in B/W. See, I don't think the graphics for the environment changed, I think the camera angle did.

What the poo?!?! THAT SAME AS THE CHURCH??!!?!?!? ARE POOEDDD??!?!?!
Look at the church:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2532/gerggererg.png(couldnt find a pic with better quality:()
Now look at huin city again !!!:

How the hell can you compare them both as the same... geez... just look around the edges of the city its all round.... and the water... its amazing...
theyve had to change the overworlds and everything for BW its hardly anything like DP

Snatch That Child, Drifloon! July 21st, 2010 5:50 AM

Sounds like someone needs to get their eyes checked out. xP

I can see the difference between D/P graphics compared to B/W graphics.

rocky505 July 21st, 2010 6:01 AM

^Same.

But he also needs to know that Reshiram is not in white it is in Black.

Cjdamon042 July 21st, 2010 6:10 AM

There is FAR more 3D in BW than there ever was in DP, OP. Yes DP used 3D graphics, but overall, it still had that somewhat 2D style that the older Pokemon games had, except for the occasional cutscene that changed the camera angle. BW is a lot different in that it pretty much is a complete 3D game with different camera angles for different places. The battle screen is also technically "3D" as the background and ground exist within a 3D space, rather than being sprites like in previous games.

So all in all, the 3D in BW is much improved over DP. Could Gamefreak have made it more 3D similar to the DS Final Fantasy games or Dragon Quest IX? Sure. But the 3D in BW is great.

And for those talking about the 3DS, that is a completely NEW handheld system. It's not related to BW AT ALL and it WON'T affect BW's graphics in any way whatsoever. We're not talking about pop-out 3D for BW, we're talking about 3D models used within the game, such as buildings and trees. Basically not sprites.

Charizard★ July 21st, 2010 6:11 AM

Its a lot better then the graphics in D&P in my opinion. Its really good.

Planetes. July 21st, 2010 6:18 AM

seriously, everyone better stop flaming BW, I can personally guarentee that they will be WELL WORTH THE MONEY so stop b****ing and get over it

Professor W. July 21st, 2010 6:37 AM

Somebody call the eye doctor.

Sure, they aren't 3D like your stupid FPS games, but they still use the proper angling to make the game 3D. The graphics are still appear like sprites, but they ARE 3D models (evident by Hiun City). The graphics are improved and I can guarantee you that it IS 3D.

~Prof. W.

BigBlastoise July 21st, 2010 6:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 5989223)
seriously, everyone better stop flaming BW, I can personally guarentee that they will be WELL WORTH THE MONEY so stop b****ing and get over it

Nobody is flaming it mate. I think you don't understand what flaming is. I am just saying that the graphics to me, don't look different. I bet if the designers rearranged the camera angle in D/P and gave some more textures, they would be identical. To me, the graphics hardly show any signs of improvement.

Oh, and on Serebii.net, it claims that Reshiram will be in White and... alright, I have finally the need to talk in a technical manner...









Now, pay attention class! Today I will be speaking about the differences in the graphics of D/P/PT and HG/SS. First of all, looking at the buildings in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, the wall designs are identical. They are of the same color, same texture, and in some places the buildings look the same. Another way I know how the graphics are the same is, when the game comes across a building, the fps (frames per second) slows down to the same (around 20-30 fps) frame-rate as before. Showing that the buildings are not in fact new, but are from the same era as generation IV.

GT game rating for Pokemon Diamond/Pearl: 8.9/10

GT game rating for Pokemon Platinum: 9.1

Estimated rating of Pokemon Black/White: 9.0

And believe me, graphics do make the game for a lot of people.

rocky505 July 21st, 2010 6:50 AM

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/exclusives.shtml Seriously get your eyes checked.

BigBlastoise July 21st, 2010 6:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky505 (Post 5989337)

Shiz! Shiz! Shiz shiz shiz shiz shiz shiz shiz shiz! I totally got those names turned around XD

Hibaru July 21st, 2010 7:05 AM

I guess that Mew~ guy is right. It IS changed a bit. Maybe a lot changes.

giradialkia July 21st, 2010 7:11 AM

The difference is mainly in the camera angles, yes.

Out of the existing Pokémon games on DS, they each introduced a bit more 3D in them, though-
DP: Every Outdoor area was in '3D'.
Pt: Every Outdoor area was in '3D' as well as selected indoor areas such as the Pokemon League, and the Frontier facilities.
HGSS: Same as Platinum, as well as some full 3D cutscenes (when you get your version legendary, the Magnet Train, SS Aqua, etc.)

In B&W, sure, it likly has more than the above, but it's still only the camera angle.

I agree with (what I believe to be) the OP's point. The style in graphics has not changed to a massive extent. In Battles, it has, since there's a dynamic camera now, as someone mentioned the field is now a 3D model, rather than sprites. In the Overworld, though, the style of graphics has not changed, just the camera angles. DPPtHGSS all used 3D models for their maps, and so do B&W, but the way in which these models are viewed by the in-game camera has changed. That's it.


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