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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 13th, 2010 4:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6152933)
same for our fire/ghost
i doubt you can mess up a candle, or a lantern, but a candelabra...
thats what scares me :( the final evo fails :(

Well I'm not sure if you would like a silly faced Candle, so I'm not sure if they made that if you would consider it a fail :p...but yeah it is hard to mess up a candle...
Well I imagine the Candelabra to be similar to that in Beauty and the beast...only with an evil face made out of flame and it would have the ability Intimidate or Flash fire :D!

Shinjiro September 13th, 2010 4:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6152933)
same for our fire/ghost
i doubt you can mess up a candle, or a lantern, but a candelabra...
thats what scares me :( the final evo fails :(

Yeah. I also heard a rumor that there will be a Fire/Ghost type. But I wonder how it'll turn be. Maybe a shady-looking magician.

Volroc September 13th, 2010 4:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6152937)

Well I'm not sure if you would like a silly faced Candle, so I'm not sure if they made that if you would consider it a fail :p...but yeah it is hard to mess up a candle...
Well I imagine the Candelabra to be similar to that in Beauty and the beast...only with an evil face made out of flame and it would have the ability Intimidate or Flash fire :D!

neh, im hoping the face is on the center, but the rest is the same :)

no thanx you, both those abilities would be useless :/

i think serene grace (cuz of it usually being used at holidays) & a new ability:
hot wax - & it has something to with its defenses :)

Surmonter September 13th, 2010 4:12 PM

I love the candle. It's such an..obvious design for a Fire/Ghost. Obvious doesn't make it bad!

Volroc September 13th, 2010 4:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinjiro (Post 6152945)
Yeah. I also heard a rumor that there will be a Fire/Ghost type. But I wonder how it'll turn be. Maybe a shady-looking magician.

its a candle, that evolves into a lantern, then into a candelabra :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 13th, 2010 4:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6152953)
neh, im hoping the face is on the center, but the rest is the same :)

no thanx you, both those abilities would be useless :/

i think serene grace (cuz of it usually being used at holidays) & a new ability:
hot wax - & it has something to with its defenses :)

How would they be useless, Intimidate can weaken the powerful Outrage and other non Normal/Fighting physical moves :)
Well it's a ghost type most for the pokemon with Serene grace have been angel like...and Psychic, Grass, or Normal type.

Shinjiro September 13th, 2010 4:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6152963)
I love the candle. It's such an..obvious design for a Fire/Ghost. Obvious doesn't make it bad!

Yeah, I know what you mean. I wonder what kind of move it'll has...

Thorns September 13th, 2010 4:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinjiro (Post 6152973)
Yeah, I know what you mean. I wonder what kind of move it'll has...

Will-o-Wisp and Ember probably.

Volroc September 13th, 2010 4:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6152968)

How would they be useless, Intimidate can weaken the powerful Outrage and other non Normal/Fighting physical moves :)
Well it's a ghost type most for the pokemon with Serene grace have been angel like...and Psychic, Grass, or Normal type.

how does serene grace make it have to be angelic?
dunsparce is FAR from angelic :/

plus who said ghost types have to be bad? :/
gastlys line is just mischievous like misdreavus' line
sableye just eats rocks all day
duskull line is just spooky
& shuppets line is adorable

the only bad ghost is spiritomb :/

Shinjiro September 13th, 2010 4:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorns (Post 6152978)
Will-o-Wisp and Ember probably.

I see. I love Will-o-Wisp. Its really helpful.

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6152964)
its a candle, that evolves into a lantern, then into a candelabra :)

Oh, Sorry. I think Candle Pokemon won't so bad. Hahahahaha! Remind me much on Candlemon on Digimon.

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2010 4:21 PM

http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=6444&pictureid=47395

Candle? Sounds interesting. Love the fact that I already made one XD.

No that sprite is NOT official. XD

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 13th, 2010 4:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6152985)
how does serene grace make it have to be angelic?
dunsparce is FAR from angelic :/

plus who said ghost types have to be bad? :/
gastlys line is just mischievous like misdreavus' line
sableye just eats rocks all day
duskull line is just spooky
& shuppets line is adorable

the only bad ghost is spiritomb :/

Well Dunsparce is based on a myth isn't it?
Also I imagine this Candle to be the Fire/Ghost version of Spiritomb...

CZbwoi September 13th, 2010 4:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6152964)
its a candle, that evolves into a lantern, then into a candelabra :)

What if it ends up looking like this?
http://www.laughingplace.com/files/columns/Toon20050802/LumCog.jpg

:knockedou

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2010 4:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CZbwoi (Post 6153011)
What if it ends up looking like this?
http://www.laughingplace.com/files/columns/Toon20050802/LumCog.jpg

:knockedou

the clock's face is the appropriate fan response.

Volroc September 13th, 2010 4:29 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153000)
http://www.pokecommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=6444&pictureid=47395

Candle? Sounds interesting. Love the fact that I already made one XD.

No that sprite is NOT official. XD

i wish that was official ♥

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6153001)

Well Dunsparce is based on a myth isn't it?
Also I imagine this Candle to be the Fire/Ghost version of Spiritomb...

so? :/ why cant other pokemon get serene grace?
i think for a holiday candle itd be a great ability :)

i rather doubt it, im willing to bet itll be a holiday thing, like the candles you light on xmas eve :) or han-nahka (no i cant spell it, so i sounded it out :P)

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153021)
the clock's face is the appropriate fan response.

for once i agree with him :P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 13th, 2010 4:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153034)
i wish that was official ♥



so? :/ why cant other pokemon get serene grace?
i think for a holiday candle itd be a great ability :)

i rather doubt it, im willing to bet itll be a holiday thing, like the candles you light on xmas eve :) or han-nahka (no i cant spell it, so i sounded it out :P)

Well I do also I don't see it as it would fit it's second form but it could have it the first time then lose it then regain it :)

Volroc September 13th, 2010 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6153041)

Well I do also I don't see it as it would fit it's second form but it could have it the first time then lose it then regain it :)

who knows :) i just cant wait til its revealed :D

Omicron September 13th, 2010 4:57 PM

O.O The evolutions of the starters may be fake after all!!!!

It's an update on bulbapedia, the coro coro scan with miju's, tsu's and pokabu's evolutions may have been faked!!!

Watch this image http://i52.tinypic.com/24wrrzd.jpg

Livewire September 13th, 2010 5:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Omicron (Post 6153177)
O.O The evolutions of the starters may be fake after all!!!!

It's an update on bulbapedia, the coro coro scan with miju's, tsu's and pokabu's evolutions may have been faked!!!

Watch this image http://i52.tinypic.com/24wrrzd.jpg


OH THANK GOD.

It would have taken a pretty observant eye to catch that little fact. ^^ I have hope again.

Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Omicron (Post 6153177)
O.O The evolutions of the starters may be fake after all!!!!

It's an update on bulbapedia, the coro coro scan with miju's, tsu's and pokabu's evolutions may have been faked!!!

Watch this image http://i52.tinypic.com/24wrrzd.jpg

OH SERIOUSLY WTF!?

I SAID THIS THE ENTIRE TIME! & Now you believe someone else just cuz they gave you a bloody picture? when i just told you to look for yourself, seriously how bloody lazy can you people get!?

go on forever-san give me a demerit, but you know im right, you were there, so was half the others on this thread, i was the one who stated those obvious facts on the very same night they were revealed!

hell go back a few pages, or go to the thread dedicated to the corocoro scans & pokesunday & youll see it was me who said this since that page surfaced.

PsychoJigglypuff September 13th, 2010 5:06 PM

Apparently from what I heard it was in a tear out booklet thingie. So that's why it's kind of off.

But I really don't know for myself. Seems pretty legit to me.

Omicron September 13th, 2010 5:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6153193)
OH THANK GOD.

It would have taken a pretty observant eye to catch that little fact. ^^ I have hope again.

Lol, I really liked mijumaru's last evo, but pokabu's and tsutaja's were horrible. Let's hope this are fake, and maybe we'll be getting a water fighting starter after all!!

Livewire September 13th, 2010 5:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153209)
OH SERIOUSLY WTF!?

I SAID THIS THE ENTIRE TIME! & Now you believe someone else just cuz they gave you a bloody picture? when i just told you to look for yourself, seriously how bloody lazy can you people get!?

go on forever-san give me a demerit, but you know im right, you were there, so was half the others on this thread, i was the one who stated those obvious facts on the very same night they were revealed!

hell go back a few pages, or go to the thread dedicated to the corocoro scans & pokesunday & youll see it was me who said this since that page surfaced.

You caught something else wrong with the scans, so i think that ^ would put the last nail in the coffin. I think they're fake.

thedestinedblade September 13th, 2010 5:07 PM

No info on supposed Anteater pokemon other than it's a fire-type? I'm quite interested in that one, lol.

Livewire September 13th, 2010 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebloom (Post 6153222)
No info on supposed Anteater pokemon other than it's a fire-type? I'm quite interested in that one, lol.

Pokebeach mentioned there was an Ant pokemon along with it as Bug/Steel, but other than that nothing really. :/

Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebloom (Post 6153222)
No info on supposed Anteater pokemon other than it's a fire-type? I'm quite interested in that one, lol.

so am i, if the fire/ghost fails, i hope to hell this one doesnt...

thanx live-sama im glad someone appreciates my hard work& gives me credit :)

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2010 5:10 PM

Page 14 is the outside page and Page 15 in the inside page. They were prolly scanned seperatly and pasted together.

As for page markers, Game Informer does the same thing. The page markers are one way and then different on another page, that's a common thing for magazines. Reshiram doesn't even look like he's heading towards the center crease like he should be, and if the pages were ripped out, it missing part of its body.

Why would someone want to fake Cross Flame and Cross Thunder as well?

Omicron September 13th, 2010 5:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153231)
so am i, if the fire/ghost fails, i hope to hell this one doesnt...

thanx live-sama im glad someone appreciates my hard work& gives me credit :)

Hey, I'm sorry Volroc :) I wasn't taking part on this forum, I came here and saw no one was talking about that, and thought on posting it.
:)

Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153235)
Page 14 is the outside page and Page 15 in the inside page. They were prolly scanned seperatly and pasted together.

As for page markers, Game Informer does the same thing. The page markers are one way and then different on another page, that's a common thing for magazines. Reshiram doesn't even look like he's heading towards the center crease like he should be, and if the pages were ripped out, it missing part of its body.

Why would someone want to fake Cross Flame and Cross Thunder as well?

but why would the wing be cut off while the nose heads on the next page?

plus why would 2 attacks, from different pokemon make the opposite pokemon stronger? makes no bloody sense IMO :/
if your rivals you wanna make the other one WEAKER :/

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Originally Posted by Omicron (Post 6153242)
Hey, I'm sorry Volroc :) I wasn't taking part on this forum, I came here and saw no one was talking about that, and thought on posting it.
:)

its chill :) i just found it kinda pissy that people need to have it pieced together for them & they cant do their own detective work, thank you for posting it up for those incapable of doing work on their own :)
im just hungry, i over reacted, no big deal :)
sorry bout that, i need to fetch me some dinner :cer_laugh:

Zelda September 13th, 2010 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Omicron (Post 6153177)
O.O The evolutions of the starters may be fake after all!!!!

It's an update on bulbapedia, the coro coro scan with miju's, tsu's and pokabu's evolutions may have been faked!!!

Watch this image http://i52.tinypic.com/24wrrzd.jpg

This was shown before, but like I said we're still unsure. Pokémon Sunday had shown all the new pokémon from the scans letting those be confirmed except the final starter evolutions. We're going to have to wait the five days to find out which won't be a long wait after all. So I guess it's safe to say the starter evolutions are still remaining at the unconfirmed list. I guess I'm glad, but there is only a slight chance that they could be fake. ):

It wouldn't take a long while to get used to them anyway. People have already mentioned what they would choose based on what has been shown. Take note the starters are usually hyped in the beginning until the end of the storyline and at the end, many start building new pokémon teams and having the Hall of Fame team laying the PC box. So if the starter evolutions make that big of a hype, think of the new legendaries and other pokémon to come soon.

However aside from that, there are some people who find the evolutions to look alright. The only problem I have is with Pokabu's evolution line. I excepted a more laid back evolution. I never expected it to stand on two legs instead of four like a normal little piggy would. xD;

As for Tsutaja's and Mijumaru's line, they've grown to me. Sure the last evolution seen for Mijumaru doesn't match up too well and it would have been better on two legs, at least it wasn't overdone. There will be many more pokémon to judge and even if the starters are a main thing when starting the game; it doesn't make the end, or in fact the most of the storyline.

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2010 5:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153245)
but why would the wing be cut off while the nose heads on the next page?

plus why would 2 attacks, from different pokemon make the opposite pokemon stronger? makes no bloody sense IMO :/
if your rivals you wanna make the other one WEAKER :/



its chill :) i just found it kinda pissy that people need to have it pieced together for them & they cant do their own detective work, thank you for posting it up for those incapable of doing work on their own :)
im just hungry, i over reacted, no big deal :)
sorry bout that, i need to fetch me some dinner :cer_laugh:

The Nose and Wing stop right at the middle and the rest is missing from them. If the nose went over, then the reg aura would pass onto the second page as well.

As for the attacks, relation purposes. The attacks don't increase each other the way you say. They are direct counters to the other. If Zekrom and Reshiram used them at the same time, slowest would become the counter.

Why does Counter, Mirror Coat and Metal Burst do double the damage dealt to the opponent that attacked the user?

Cross Flame and Cross Thunder are regular attacks, but they act like Assurance with specific targeted attacks hit.

thedestinedblade September 13th, 2010 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153231)
so am i, if the fire/ghost fails, i hope to hell this one doesnt...

thanx live-sama im glad someone appreciates my hard work& gives me credit :)

Same here. I like that the fire-type isn't getting shafted this gen, but I'm also hoping for a couple strong ones too. :]

Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:31 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153288)
The Nose and Wing stop right at the middle and the rest is missing from them. If the nose went over, then the reg aura would pass onto the second page as well.

As for the attacks, relation purposes. The attacks don't increase each other the way you say. They are direct counters to the other. If Zekrom and Reshiram used them at the same time, slowest would become the counter.

Why does Counter, Mirror Coat and Metal Burst do double the damage dealt to the opponent that attacked the user?

Cross Flame and Cross Thunder are regular attacks, but they act like Assurance with specific targeted attacks hit.

but the nose does, but the aura doesnt, which would prove it fake even more so would it not? just enlarge the image& look very closely, it just barely falls over onto the other page.

i can see that now :)

Surmonter September 13th, 2010 5:34 PM

That scan can be explained.

They places the scans next to each other in the wrong order. 15 is supposed to be on the left, and 16 on the right. But it has been proven to be completely real. Someone recorded a video of their Coro Coro.

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2010 5:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153302)
but the nose does, but the aura doesnt, which would prove it fake even more so would it not? just enlarge the image& look very closely, it just barely falls over onto the other page.

i can see that now :)

I did enlarge it, the nose stops right at the middle. It doesn't cross over onto the other page.

Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebloom (Post 6153300)
Same here. I like that the fire-type isn't getting shafted this gen, but I'm also hoping for a couple strong ones too. :]

so am i but, compared to the other types it is, it always seems to get the least support :(

no offense to dragons, their my fav & i love them to death, but their supposed to be rare, so them having only 2 families& 3legends seems pretty normal to me, gen3 blew my mind with 4families, but i assumed they were making up for gen2s 1dragon.

fire is one of the 4main types: grass, fire, water, & electric
it just seems like they should be quite high in numbers :/
while psychic, dark, & dragon are supposed to be rarer& harder to find :)

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Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6153308)
That scan can be explained.

They places the scans next to each other in the wrong order. 15 is supposed to be on the left, and 16 on the right. But it has been proven to be completely real. Someone recorded a video of their Coro Coro.

still doesnt explain why theres no yellow pokeball

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153309)
I did enlarge it, the nose stops right at the middle. It doesn't cross over onto the other page.

i guess my eyes just see closer details :/

HandyBandyZandy September 13th, 2010 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153245)
but why would the wing be cut off while the nose heads on the next page?

plus why would 2 attacks, from different pokemon make the opposite pokemon stronger? makes no bloody sense IMO :/
if your rivals you wanna make the other one WEAKER :/



its chill :) i just found it kinda pissy that people need to have it pieced together for them & they cant do their own detective work, thank you for posting it up for those incapable of doing work on their own :)
im just hungry, i over reacted, no big deal :)
sorry bout that, i need to fetch me some dinner :cer_laugh:

I don't want to seem rude here, so just know that I mean this message with the highest of respect.

It's true that those two pages may have been faked, I'll give you that. But if you go to Serebii and look at the page with Aloe, you'll see that Pokabu's evo is right next to her. Now if you counter saying that that page is fake, then go to Pokebeach and look at the two pages with both Aloe and the Dento leaders and the Monkey Trio. If you look at the crease, you'll notice that; 1. The bottom left part of Mokoma's skirt is continued on the next page, and matches perfectly. 2. Poddo(I think that's his name)'s cuff and his right leg both continue onto the next page, and also match up perfectly. Now personally, this is enough evidence to prove that the page with Pokabu's evo is true, and thus, Chaobuu exists, and leads me to assume that so do Janobii and Futachimaru.

Once again, I make this statement with the utmost respect towards everyone. I'm just throwing my beliefs in the mosh pit.

Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HandyBandyZandy (Post 6153330)
I don't want to seem rude here, so just know that I mean this message with the highest of respect.

It's true that those two pages may have been faked, I'll give you that. But if you go to Serebii and look at the page with Aloe, you'll see that Pokabu's evo is right next to her. Now if you counter saying that that page is fake, then go to Pokebeach and look at the two pages with both Aloe and the Dento leaders and the Monkey Trio. If you look at the crease, you'll notice that; 1. The bottom left part of Mokoma's skirt is continued on the next page, and matches perfectly. 2. Poddo(I think that's his name)'s cuff and his right leg both continue onto the next page, and also match up perfectly. Now personally, this is enough evidence to prove that the page with Pokabu's evo is true, and thus, Chaobuu exists, and leads me to assume that so do Janobii and Futachimaru.

Once again, I make this statement what the utmost respect towards everyone. I'm just throwing my beliefs in the mosh pit.

which is why i dont doubt the 1st evos anymore :)

just cuz a page could fake, doesnt mean the info on them isnt/couldnt correct :)

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2010 5:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153317)

still doesnt explain why theres no yellow pokeball

Magazines do it all the time. Its usually part of their design. May look odd, but that's just how they work.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153339)
which is why i dont doubt the 1st evos anymore :)

just cuz a page could fake, doesnt mean the info on them isnt/couldnt correct :)

Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omicron
O.O The evolutions of the starters may be fake after all!!!!

It's an update on bulbapedia, the coro coro scan with miju's, tsu's and pokabu's evolutions may have been faked!!!

Watch this image http://i52.tinypic.com/24wrrzd.jpg
OH SERIOUSLY WTF!?

I SAID THIS THE ENTIRE TIME! & Now you believe someone else just cuz they gave you a bloody picture? when i just told you to look for yourself, seriously how bloody lazy can you people get!?

go on forever-san give me a demerit, but you know im right, you were there, so was half the others on this thread, i was the one who stated those obvious facts on the very same night they were revealed!

hell go back a few pages, or go to the thread dedicated to the corocoro scans & pokesunday & youll see it was me who said this since that page surfaced.
Handy just proved that Pokabu's evo is real by using another scan from the same CoroCoro. Which means you were wrong in this little deal about them being fake.

Please don't contradict your self. You just said that the "fake" scans proved that the evolutions were fake and were just given evidence that they aren't fake.

HandyBandyZandy September 13th, 2010 5:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153339)
which is why i dont doubt the 1st evos anymore :)

just cuz a page could fake, doesnt mean the info on them isnt/couldnt correct :)

Okay. I just thought I'd put my opinions out there. :)

Thanks for the civility, by the way. I'm used to people in real life tearing apart everything I say. So it's much appreciated. :)

The Red Chain September 13th, 2010 5:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6153308)
That scan can be explained.

They places the scans next to each other in the wrong order. 15 is supposed to be on the left, and 16 on the right. But it has been proven to be completely real. Someone recorded a video of their Coro Coro.

Do you perhaps have this video still? I'm actually excited about Miju's evolution at the very least, and kinda want it to be real. The other two can go burn. ;; It's strange how the order is done wrong though. It's almost unreal how that works. XD; I guess in general I want Miju's to be somewhat real [design still kept nearly the same], and the other two to be redesigned. Going from being quad to bi is just far too weird for me when it comes to Pokabu. I wanted him to be a nasty, raged boar with huge tusks and fire spewing from his body. But nope.

We instead have MACHO MACHO MAN PIG!! :D


Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153346)
Magazines do it all the time. Its usually part of their design. May look odd, but that's just how they work.

good point :/ its an annoying,but obvious fact :)

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Originally Posted by HandyBandyZandy (Post 6153352)
Okay. I just thought I'd put my opinions out there. :)

Thanks for the civility, by the way. I'm used to people in real life tearing apart everything I say. So it's much appreciated. :)

of course, your welcome,& feel free to state your opinion :)
i know how ya feel, i get it in real life& on the internet :/
we all have our opinions, we may not all agree on things, but thats what makes us different :)
if we agreed on everything, there would never be progress, as long as we disagree we can find out the truth& hopefully thatll be good enough for us all :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Red Chain (Post 6153358)

Do you perhaps have this video still? I'm actually excited about Miju's evolution at the very least, and kinda want it to be real. The other two can go burn. ;; It's strange how the order is done wrong though. It's almost unreal how that works. XD; I guess in general I want Miju's to be somewhat real [design still kept nearly the same], and the other two to be redesigned. Going from being quad to bi is just far too weird for me when it comes to Pokabu. I wanted him to be a nasty, raged boar with huge tusks and fire spewing from his body. But nope.

We instead have MACHO MACHO MAN PIG!! :D


i agree, i too wish to see this video, that way i can discern truth from fiction with my own eyes :)

Conan Edogawa September 13th, 2010 5:59 PM

In response to the image that was posted, the Japanese do indeed read from right to left.


Since the second evos were confirmed I think it's safe to say the source was right. They were right with everything they said, why doubt them about the final evos?

thedestinedblade September 13th, 2010 6:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153317)
so am i but, compared to the other types it is, it always seems to get the least support :(

no offense to dragons, their my fav & i love them to death, but their supposed to be rare, so them having only 2 families& 3legends seems pretty normal to me, gen3 blew my mind with 4families, but i assumed they were making up for gen2s 1dragon.

fire is one of the 4main types: grass, fire, water, & electric
it just seems like they should be quite high in numbers :/
while psychic, dark, & dragon are supposed to be rarer& harder to find :)

Yeah, not including this gen, there's only about 33 fire-types, which is pretty low when compared to grass and water. Even if two of the fire-lines are both monkeys, I'm still glad they got more than gen 4, which was only 4. We even got some new typing with fire/psychic and fire/ghost. I think there's a fire/bug too no?

Livewire September 13th, 2010 6:07 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153346)
Magazines do it all the time. Its usually part of their design. May look odd, but that's just how they work.






Handy just proved that Pokabu's evo is real by using another scan from the same CoroCoro. Which means you were wrong in this little deal about them being fake.

Please don't contradict your self. You just said that the "fake" scans proved that the evolutions were fake and were just given evidence that they aren't fake.

Is it still possible that the 1st stage evolutions are real, but the final evolutions are fake?

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2010 6:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6153408)
Is it still possible that the 1st stage evolutions are real, but the final evolutions are fake?

Yes. Mijumaru's final has the best chance of being true though. No information of the general body look for Tsutaja and Pokabu's final forms was never hinted, but Mijumaru was said to be a sea lion look. While there was only one contradicting fact against the current picture of it, its not a hard fact as the under belly looks like it has a shell as well.

The First Stages have been confirmed though.

Ho-Oh September 13th, 2010 6:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153209)
OH SERIOUSLY WTF!?

I SAID THIS THE ENTIRE TIME! & Now you believe someone else just cuz they gave you a bloody picture? when i just told you to look for yourself, seriously how bloody lazy can you people get!?

go on forever-san give me a demerit, but you know im right, you were there, so was half the others on this thread, i was the one who stated those obvious facts on the very same night they were revealed!

lol, surprisingly that was totally within the rules. :(

Aaaand, I believe the second scan is real, but the one of the three evolutions, not so sure. Either way, Pokabu's evo is confirmed for me.

Livewire September 13th, 2010 6:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153424)
Yes. Mijumaru's final has the best chance of being true though. No information of the general body look for Tsutaja and Pokabu's final forms was never hinted, but Mijumaru was said to be a sea lion look. While there was only one contradicting fact against the current picture of it, its not a hard fact as the under belly looks like it has a shell as well.

The First Stages have been confirmed though.

Ahhh i see. I can see Miju3 being the most likey to be legit based on what Sugumori said. Well, we'll find out in a week. xD

Volroc September 13th, 2010 6:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icebloom (Post 6153391)
Yeah, not including this gen, there's only about 33 fire-types, which is pretty low when compared to grass and water. Even if two of the fire-lines are both monkeys, I'm still glad they got more than gen 4, which was only 4. We even got some new typing with fire/psychic and fire/ghost. I think there's a fire/bug too no?

cant really count gen4 as giving any fire types, cuz the beginner fire type is always, & the only other fire type was obtained threw trade& after mani storyline :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6153408)
Is it still possible that the 1st stage evolutions are real, but the final evolutions are fake?

yes it possible

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6153434)


lol, surprisingly that was totally within the rules. :(

Aaaand, I believe the second scan is real, but the one of the three evolutions, not so sure. Either way, Pokabu's evo is confirmed for me.

then you should be glad i didnt post the 1st 15drafts :cer_laugh:

agreed.

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im still hoping the types are wrong& change to this:
grass/dragon-or-psychic
fire/dark
water/ice-fighting

id like that alot more :) yay or nay? :)

Boarbeque September 13th, 2010 7:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omicron (Post 6153177)
O.O The evolutions of the starters may be fake after all!!!!

It's an update on bulbapedia, the coro coro scan with miju's, tsu's and pokabu's evolutions may have been faked!!!

Watch this image http://i52.tinypic.com/24wrrzd.jpg

Pokebeach says it came from a separate pull out pamphlet, but I don't buy it.

PsychoJigglypuff September 13th, 2010 7:14 PM

I can't wait until Friday, because everyone will finally shut up about the freaking starter evolutions and how fake they are. c:

Haza September 13th, 2010 7:16 PM

You guys are never gonna give this up huh? Lets stop talking about it and wait these last few days out... I think on Saturday or even maybe earlier things should be revealed in its entirety.

Dillon_68 September 13th, 2010 7:21 PM

PURAISE HESUS! I was content with them, but the possibility of them being fake is even better!

CZbwoi September 13th, 2010 7:21 PM

I'm hoping some idiot store will sell the game early in the next 1 or 2 days.

Or some kid will get his pre-order in the mail early.

Its happened before.

Volroc September 13th, 2010 7:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boarbeque (Post 6153562)
Pokebeach says it came from a separate pull out pamphlet, but I don't buy it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsychoJigglypuff (Post 6153572)
I can't wait until Friday, because everyone will finally shut up about the freaking starter evolutions and how fake they are. c:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6153575)
You guys are never gonna give this up huh? Lets stop talking about it and wait these last few days out... I think on Saturday or even maybe earlier things should be revealed in its entirety.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dillon_68 (Post 6153582)
PURAISE HESUS! I was content with them, but the possibility of them being fake is even better!

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZbwoi (Post 6153584)
I'm hoping some idiot store will sell the game early in the next 1 or 2 days.

Or some kid will get his pre-order in the mail early.

Its happened before.

agreed with all the above :D wow thats alot of opinions i agree with :cer_laugh:

Mujahid September 14th, 2010 4:41 AM

silhouettes of the legendary trio.. !
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/8z2.png

So they r steel/fighting , rock/fighting and grass/fighting according to the rumor right ?...seems quite neat to me ...yr thoughts ?

Sammuthegreat September 14th, 2010 4:51 AM

If those three are the real silhouettes, then I really look forward to seeing those Pokemon.

EDIT: Thinking about it, trios almost always have something in common aesthetically:

Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres are all birds.

Raikou, Entei and Suicune are all beasts with cloudy-weathery stuff on their backs.

Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza all have the red lines all over their bodies and the same eyes.

Azelf, Uxie and Mesprit all have the exact same body shape with similar facial features.

I look forward to seeing the common trend between this trio - it could be facial features rather than body shape, because those three certainly don't seem to have the same body shape. They barely even seem similar enough going by the silhouettes to be the same animal family...

Mujahid September 14th, 2010 5:07 AM

i'm more interested in them being fighting type and quadruped..we have never had a quadruped fighting poke ,have we ?..

rocky505 September 14th, 2010 6:19 AM

I don't think we have unless Lucario was able to run around on all four.

Captain Riolu September 14th, 2010 8:12 AM

Their legs look....odd...

How would they fight? Would they only be able to deliver kicks?

Haza September 14th, 2010 8:16 AM

The only thing I see looking similar are their feet but I dunno who they will be Fighting-Types.

Griin. September 14th, 2010 9:19 AM

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/3585/baffulon.gif
http://regex.info/exif-thumb/ee4185171187df53dfd085ed1915330c-2.gif
It looks fake to me

thedestinedblade September 14th, 2010 9:21 AM

^Maybe, they look alright though. Coloring just a bit weird.

Volroc September 14th, 2010 9:26 AM

definitely fake, ive seen more convincing fakes all over this thread, just check page one, the delibird,farfetch'd evos were far more convincing that this play dough looking photo shop :/

Haza September 14th, 2010 9:28 AM

The coloring is way too weird... and why those 3 of all the Pokemon that could be shown? Also, those don't look like they have a lick of the Fighting-Type in them.

Volroc September 14th, 2010 9:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mujahid (Post 6154062)
silhouettes of the legendary trio.. !
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/8z2.png

So they r steel/fighting , rock/fighting and grass/fighting according to the rumor right ?...seems quite neat to me ...yr thoughts ?

i bet their gonna be the first special based fighting types (not counting lucario)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6154529)
The coloring is way too weird... and why those 3 of all the Pokemon that could be shown? Also, those don't look like they have a lick of the Fighting-Type in them.

well their quadrupedal their not gonna look like fighting types :/

Haza September 14th, 2010 9:45 AM

Then why go randomly giving Pokemon attributes that they obviously shouldnt have... if you cant throw a punch or a proper kick how are you fighting? Unless thay are adding deeper meaning to the type.

Chrisixx September 14th, 2010 10:11 AM

Where are you getiing these screens from?!

mathioks September 14th, 2010 10:14 AM

if you ask me those legendarys really can't be real, I mean, just look at the blue and steelish one, there poses are both derived from that tauros like pokemon, the guy who made them stole the tauros like pokemons head and gave it to the steelish like one, while he took his pose for the blue one ... in wich he totally failed, the bending leg is totally unrealistic, it's just impossible for someone to have a leg like that, cause the way he had drawn it, it's way longer then his other legs, also, the way his leg is drawn, it bends the wrong way ... i can know, i am learning anatomy ;)

faospark September 14th, 2010 10:19 AM

Spoiler:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6154526)
definitely fake, ive seen more convincing fakes all over this thread, just check page one, the delibird,farfetch'd evos were far more convincing that this play dough looking photo shop :/



with its current look and very weird coloring, I agree looks uuber fake to me

AadmM September 14th, 2010 10:22 AM

One word comes to mind when I look at those screens: YUCK.

Grey one looks alright, though XD

Livewire September 14th, 2010 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faospark (Post 6154632)

with its current look and very weird coloring, I agree looks uuber fake to me

I agree too. I like the idea of a Quadruped fighting type, but those don't look remotely fighting, and they don't seem to have enough "Synergy" to be the legend trio. The only thing they have in common is that they walk on 4 legs, that's it.

Haza September 14th, 2010 10:34 AM

The grass one reminds me a lot of Roselia...

Sammuthegreat September 14th, 2010 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6154530)
i bet their gonna be the first special based fighting types (not counting lucario)

Hopefully that would mean the introduction of more Special Fighting moves, so my Blaziken will kick even more buttocks.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6154557)
Then why go randomly giving Pokemon attributes that they obviously shouldnt have... if you cant throw a punch or a proper kick how are you fighting? Unless thay are adding deeper meaning to the type.

Headbutts, stamps, body slams... Hell, horses can give a pretty powerful backwards kick given the chance, fighting doesn't necessarily mean kung fu.

EDIT: As for the colourings... When I first saw the colourings, I thought they looked pretty convincing, but I wasn't majorly sold on the actual colours. I mean, just because it's Rock-type, it doesn't have to be grey. Likewise just because it's a Grass-type, it doesn't mean it has to be various shades of green. That's one of the things I like so much about Zekrom - Electric =/= yellow! I was pretty pleased by the blue colouring of the Steel/Fighting beast, but reading Volroc's comment mentioning "playdough" makes me dubious. Its skin/fur does have a bizarre lack of detail/texture/shading, and it's right foreleg would be far too long if straightened out...

Masterge77 September 14th, 2010 11:13 AM

I really hope these legendaries are fake, because they resemble the legendary beasts way too much.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mujahid (Post 6154062)
silhouettes of the legendary trio.. !
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/8z2.png

So they r steel/fighting , rock/fighting and grass/fighting according to the rumor right ?...seems quite neat to me ...yr thoughts ?

They're fake, as they are WAY too remisent of the legendary beasts.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Riolu (Post 6154366)
Their legs look....odd...

How would they fight? Would they only be able to deliver kicks?

It's strange really, Fighting types are usually humanoid, and usually, they are anthropomorphic animals.....

I agree, one looks like a grey colored Torterra, one looks like a blue colored Arceus, and one looks like a splice between Arceus and Sky Shaymin, with smaller, weird looking ears.....

Mujahid September 14th, 2010 11:17 AM

The silhouettes are not fake ...They r posted by melkor and he has been dead right until now..

Xander Olivieri September 14th, 2010 11:22 AM

We can't really prove either side. Maybe they'll be shown in tonight's airing of Ona Shuta. Until then we can't say whether they are fake or not, I mean look at all the Pokabu's 1st evo people that said it was absolutely fake. That was proven wrong in the last CoroCoro issue.

Just sit back and wait.

The Red Chain September 14th, 2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mujahid (Post 6154062)
silhouettes of the legendary trio.. !
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/8z2.png

So they r steel/fighting , rock/fighting and grass/fighting according to the rumor right ?...seems quite neat to me ...yr thoughts ?

Uhhh, I'll take the side that says these are real until confirmed otherwise for now.
Experto hasn't been wrong yet, so we'll see. I'm already in love with the one on the far right and I haven't even seen it yet. <3
I never did like Suicune, but I do love how this "legendary beast" is looking. Must be the resemblance to Skymin. :x I hope that one is the Grass/Fighting.

The one in the middle worried me for a minute cause Pokebeach's description said they were quadrupeds, so I looked closer and saw the other two legs and I had to give a sigh of relief. XD; The one on the far left is alright looking.. I don't quite like the stance with it's left [my left] front leg. Makes the Pokemon look really strange and somewhat crooked.

Quote:

They're fake, as they are WAY too remisent of the legendary beasts....

Would you call Mamanbou fake for looking too much like Luvdisc if you saw it for the first time?


Zelda September 14th, 2010 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mujahid (Post 6154062)
silhouettes of the legendary trio.. !

So they r steel/fighting , rock/fighting and grass/fighting according to the rumor right ?...seems quite neat to me ...yr thoughts ?

I'm liking the last one shown (the one on the right side); silhouette. It looks elegant and the pose itself shows a majestic feeling. The stance and pose of the first one looks edgy and has an Entei look to it, but I'd have to see the official artwork to say more. As for the middle one shown above, I don't have much of a full opinion based on the silhouette. It looks to be bulky though and would fit the rock/fighting type like it has been said to be. However, although they have a bit of the three legendary beasts look to the them, that doesn't necessarily mean they are fake.

Keep in mind that GameFreak has been taking designs based on other pokémon designs to fit it. For example, Buffalon to Tauros. Many were saying how similar they are that it could be an evolution or a copy, but I'm starting to notice how they are taking other pokémon looks to make new ones off of them. Emonga, Buffalon, Mamanbou and Mijumaru (if you're comparing it to Piplup) are some of the ones that designs look based off of a previous pokémon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griin. (Post 6154512)

The silhouettes seem pretty believable but I question this screenshot. If you look at the one supposedly to be the steel/fighting type, it has the beard-ish look, side spikes (see this image) and a black stripe going around its feet just like Entei. Sure GameFreak is known to base off pokémon or get an idea from other pokémon, but this went far. o_O

Perriechu September 14th, 2010 12:49 PM

Oh Gross... those silhouettes look hideous 0.0 Im dreading the outcome >.>

And the real/fake screenshot makes me want them to be fake.

Honestly these are the first BW pokemon I've hated so far.

4 Days ~~

PsychoJigglypuff September 14th, 2010 12:54 PM

The silhouettes seem fine, but the screenshot seems fake.

Well it won't be long until we know for sure. xD

Frozen Solid Tea September 14th, 2010 12:55 PM

I think they're fake. If you notice, Buffalon is kind of blurry, and the supposed beast is in good quality...

Xander Olivieri September 14th, 2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonomega (Post 6154986)
Oh Gross... those silhouettes look hideous 0.0 Im dreading the outcome >.>

And the real/fake screenshot makes me want them to be fake.

Honestly these are the first BW pokemon I've hated so far.

4 Days ~~

3 days. Not 4.

Its actually 2 Days and 18 hours. Japan is a day ahead.

Perriechu September 14th, 2010 12:56 PM

I hope they Impress...

I agree with what people are saying about fighting.

Why couldn't we have different types. ?

Make them all Dark/???? < ??? stands for a different type.

It would be better, or have made the Pokemon actually look like fighters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6155008)
3 days. Not 4.

Its actually 2 Days and 18 hours. Japan is a day ahead.

ZOMG 0.0

Wednesday 1) Thursday 2) Friday 3) Saturday 4)

I count the actual day.

But if it makes people "Happy"

3 Days ~~~~~~ (:< Mister Ghost coffin soon you'll be mine (:<

coolnick37 September 14th, 2010 1:10 PM

B/W legendary trio
 
Well pokebeach has revealed the new legendary trio today(its from the same source as everything else they had revealed so its 90% true)
http://pokebeach.com/

Here is the rock/fighting vs. buffalon
http://i56.tinypic.com/34sjyfk.jpg

And here are grass/fighting vs. steel/fighting
http://i55.tinypic.com/mvkn47.jpg

They are all apparently found roaming in the wild(like GSC trio)
What do you guys think of them, is there going to be any story attached to them? Seeing as they are going to be a roaming pokemon i think there wont be much story about them.
Btw. Idk if im the only one but the grass one reminded me of arceus
But i like how he has fairy wings on the back of hi neck.

EDIT: Ohh and they dont look fighting to meh :/

coolnick37 September 14th, 2010 1:16 PM

Ohh shoot, i didnt see this post. i already made a thread about them :P i hope it doesnt get locked ><(probably will)
What makes u think theyre fake? (they look kinda fake to me too, but we have said that for every pokemon so far, starters, buffalon etc, etc)

Xander Olivieri September 14th, 2010 1:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolnick37 (Post 6155051)
Well pokebeach has revealed the new legendary trio today(its from the same source as everything else they had revealed so its 90% true)
http://pokebeach.com/

Here is the rock/fighting vs. buffalon
http://i56.tinypic.com/34sjyfk.jpg

And here are grass/fighting vs. steel/fighting
http://i55.tinypic.com/mvkn47.jpg

They are all apparently found roaming in the wild(like GSC trio)
What do you guys think of them, is there going to be any story attached to them? Seeing as they are going to be a roaming pokemon i think there wont be much story about them.
Btw. Idk if im the only one but the grass one reminded me of arceus
But i like how he has fairy wings on the back of hi neck.

EDIT: Ohh and they dont look fighting to meh :/

They are going to have some story behind them. All the trios do. I don't see how a Quadreped can be a fighting type at all. Won't say they don't look fighting, because looks aren't everything and this new Gen has a way to mess with people's minds in terms of judging by look alone.

Personally DON'T WANT. They look ok to me, but I just don't want.

Surmonter September 14th, 2010 1:18 PM

I think they're fake.

Isn't the trio fighting type? Also, the green one looks like an edit of Arceus's sprite.

Zhinc September 14th, 2010 1:21 PM

Hm. Something about that blue-coloured one makes it look like the sprites I've seen on hacked versions of the games as made-up Pokemon.
I think it's the lines and shading of it, maybe?
The green one also looks really weird. =/
The only one that looks like it could be a real Pokemon is the first one, but, yeah...the trio's supposed to be fighting, and I don't see how it would pull that off.

Edit: Actually, now that I look at him more, the first one's stance reminds me of Entei a lot. =/

billi1000 September 14th, 2010 1:25 PM

The green one looks like a Shaymin forme, anyways I highly doubt these are true due to one reason which is I don't think a fighting-type is going to be on all fours.

Anyway, it won't be long until we discover the truth.

Surmonter September 14th, 2010 1:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billi1000 (Post 6155093)
The green one looks like a Shaymin forme, anyways I highly doubt these are true due to one reason which is I don't think a fighting-type is going to be on all fours.

Anyway, it won't be long until we discover the truth.

Another thing to add, I doubt they would make a Steel/Fighting a blue four legged Pokemon with lighting bolts on it.

coolnick37 September 14th, 2010 1:27 PM

Grass one looks like an arceus ripoff to me too, bu ti like him the most. I might even use him, if he turns out good.
Steel on elooks like he has a retared leg or something to me :/ but anyways they are most probable real, since we already had sillhouettes, and the source for them was pokexperto.

Perriechu September 14th, 2010 1:29 PM

ZOMG <3 I changed my mind about the biggest one of the trio.

It's so cute <3<3

Please don't be fake ;-;

Surmonter September 14th, 2010 1:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolnick37 (Post 6155098)
Grass one looks like an arceus ripoff to me too, bu ti like him the most. I might even use him, if he turns out good.
Steel on elooks like he has a retared leg or something to me :/ but anyways they are most probable real, since we already had sillhouettes, and the source for them was pokexperto.

PokeExperto never updated with sillouhettes of the legends.

Surmonter September 14th, 2010 1:35 PM

They're fake.

1. Why are they are on all fours? They're Fighting.
2. Why is a Steel/Fighting type on all fours, blue, and have lightning bolts on it?
3. The Steel/Fighting one resembles a fake Pokemon from a popular RPGXP Pokemon game. Resembles it a lot.
4. The Grass/Fighting one is a cheap edit of an Arceus sprite.
5. The Rock/Fighting one has the same exact stance as Entei. Similar legs and body too.

Anuhrima September 14th, 2010 1:39 PM

They're real, the screenshot is only a mockup.

Surmonter September 14th, 2010 1:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anuhrima (Post 6155113)
They're real, the screenshot is only a mockup.

Uh, and how is this proof? How do you know it's real? You can't just walts in saying they're real, with no proof.

Tyxomm September 14th, 2010 1:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6155110)
They're fake.

1. Why are they are on all fours? They're Fighting.
2. Why is a Steel/Fighting type on all fours, blue, and have lightning bolts on it?
3. The Steel/Fighting one resembles a fake Pokemon from a popular RPGXP Pokemon game. Resembles it a lot.
4. The Grass/Fighting one is a cheap edit of an Arceus sprite.
5. The Rock/Fighting one has the same exact stance as Entei. Similar legs and body too.

I get you point but.
The starter evolutions looked like: Milotic, Lickilicky, rhyperior and Dialga, but they were real.
(I want them to be fake...)

Surmonter September 14th, 2010 1:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyxomm (Post 6155137)
I get you point but.
The starter evolutions looked like: Milotic, Lickilicky, rhyperior and Dialga, but they were real.
(I want them to be fake...)

Yes, but the starters were actually revealed by a reliable source. These silhouette and screen shot popped out of thin air. No source. And people, PokeExperto did not release the silhouettes, and they were not the original source of the screenshots. So don't say they were. :3

Perriechu September 14th, 2010 1:54 PM

Well instead of starting flame wars (I know no one was.)

Let's just wait for Friday/Saturday when we'll get a huge news sweep.


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