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Zelda September 5th, 2010 9:20 PM

More hints are adding up to the fact that they are fake more than there are facts of them being real. I know Gamefreak has letdowns for some pokémon designs but this is a disappointment for me. At least they aren't confirmed yet and the game comes out in 13 days. Then we'll be able to know everything without the rumors and unconfirmed things lying around. :)

@ the above: The whiskers don't exactly go outside of the curved face line. So they won't be shown at the little edge of the box.

The Red Chain September 5th, 2010 9:21 PM

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Originally Posted by o0PinkSquid0o (Post 6132880)
thats not proof! the 'fake' smugleaf drawing should line up perfectly with the artwork under it if it was traced! wow....huurp durrrp!

No, but there certainly has been enough evidence as of now that they are fake, despite them maybe being true. The biggest one that got me was how Wotter3 has two short whiskers and one longer whisker.. and a very short one on the opposite side that should be long. You can't deny the weirdness of that. Angle would not "chop" off that much of his other "long" whisker.

Is anyone really wanting these guys to be real anyway? They are so atrocious. ;x;


o0PinkSquid0o September 5th, 2010 9:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Red Chain (Post 6132891)

No, but there certainly has been enough evidence as of now that they are fake, despite this maybe not being true. Is anyone really wanting these guys to be real anyway?

They are so atrocious. ;x;


They are not 'atrocious"! they're fine (besides the fire dude) if they're not real I am not going to cry bloody murder, but if they are I am not going to throw a fit like so many people are doing on here!

I think they look good, they don't looked traced and they don't look 'atrocious' they look fine. Nosepass and probopass... remember those? now those are 'atrocious'!!

rocky505 September 5th, 2010 9:26 PM

IMO Probopass had a better design then all three of those final starter evos.

dragon0fangz September 5th, 2010 9:29 PM

COME ON, Whats wrong with Smugleaf's evo. ;_;

Clefairies September 5th, 2010 10:20 PM

Smugleaf's final evo got the best deal out of them pictures.

I personally think they are fake, as many have said the proof is more leaning towards them being fake then them being real,.

Haza September 5th, 2010 10:43 PM

Ugh, I can't wait until these are proven to be real. They have very good designs, well, I don't really like the fire one because it looks like a fighting type BUT the other two are amazing.

PokemonMaster97 September 5th, 2010 11:04 PM

I think that the 2nd evo's of the starters are real and the 3rd ones are not. Wotters 3rd evo is to much like dialga in a way that it could be the baby form of it, Smugleafs final evo is cool, but is very different to its 2nd evo and the fire Pig is to much like Magmortar and Ryperior. I think they are pretty Hideous!


Smugleaf 3rd Evo: Grass/Poison OR dragon

Wotter 3rd Evo: Water/Steel OR Ice OR Ground OR Dragon

The fire Pig 3rd Evo: Fire/Fight OR Dark

But I hope they are fake...

fenyx4 September 5th, 2010 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilite Darkrai (Post 6132841)
I found this image on GameFaqs board:

Thank goodness! http://www.pokecommunity.com/images/templates/smilies/cerulean/20.%20boogie.gif Best evidence I've seen so far. As others have said, more evidence is stacked that seems to be implying the "Fake" status as opposed to the "Real" status regarding these rumor Pokemon... In 11 days time, though, we can finally put all these stupid rumors to rest! I want to verify the genuineness of several of these "rumored" Pokemon, but I also want to wait until the English release of BW to look at all the new Pokemon... *sigh* I don't know what I'm going to do once the Gen V floodgates burst... :cer_confused:

Anyway, the second stages of Wotter/Mijumaru and Tsutarja look OK, but it looks like second-stage starter evos are becoming harder to design each Generation...

EDIT: The Internet's major flaw is becoming more and more apparent: rumors spread like wildfire. :( All of these artists making fake Pokemon right around release date are really getting on my nerves... If these rumor Pokemon are fake, I'm going to be disappointed with a few major Pokemon news sites who can't even bother to verify a darn source... But again, 11 days until the truth is revealed! :D

bobandbill September 6th, 2010 12:17 AM

Quote:

EDIT: The Internet's major flaw is becoming more and more apparent: rumors spread like wildfire. All of these artists making fake Pokemon right around release date are really getting on my nerves... If these rumor Pokemon are fake, I'm going to be disappointed with a few major Pokemon news sites who can't even bother to verify a darn source... But again, 11 days until the truth is revealed
It's actually not easy to verify 'sources' as it's a matter of faith and whatnot - although there are many cases in which it is obvious that it's fake, sometimes it's just too hard to tell. Going by the fact that there are unnamed sources that apparently back it up enough for Serebii to mention thme on his site suggest these aren't too likely to be fake...

And who knows, maybe that picture is actually a coloured version of the sketches? Not that likely but certainly a possibility - I wouldn't quite think it's 'busted' imo. But at any rate - every gen when a legit Pokemon is released many shout fake/ugly at it, and vice versa - it's happened before both ways, so as said - a matter of just waiting and seeing.

pokewalker September 6th, 2010 1:04 AM

i don't think they are real actually. they seem fake. but if they are real... http://cache2.hyves-static.net/images/smilies/default/smiley_cry.gif

Kanto_Johto September 6th, 2010 2:41 AM

Oh man, this is getting ridiculous now.

That is quite possibly the most retarded 'proof' I've ever seen.

For starters (lol pun), Smugleaf2 doesn't even line up with the one on the Beta art, which automatically blows any credibility this 'proof' had out of the water.

Also, the artwork might have been drawn from the Beta art purposely for the Anime.

Don't get me wrong, if these starter evos are fake, I'll be happy (providing the actual evos are better). All I'm saying is don't get your hopes up.

rocky505 September 6th, 2010 2:45 AM

What will be harsh is if these are fake but the real ones are even worse X_X

Kanto_Johto September 6th, 2010 3:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rocky505 (Post 6133192)
What will be harsh is if these are fake but the real ones are even worse X_X

If that happened, I'd go to my fridge, pop open a can of coke, sit back, relax, and watch the live storm in all its glory.

Haza September 6th, 2010 3:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kanto_Johto (Post 6133191)
Oh man, this is getting ridiculous now.

That is quite possibly the most retarded 'proof' I've ever seen.

For starters (lol pun), Smugleaf2 doesn't even line up with the one on the Beta art, which automatically blows any credibility this 'proof' had out of the water.

Also, the artwork might have been drawn from the Beta art purposely for the Anime.

Don't get me wrong, if these starter evos are fake, I'll be happy (providing the actual evos are better). All I'm saying is don't get your hopes up.

I was going to say this... I seriously think they are real. Haters are gonna love them when the are fully revealed.

Sammuthegreat September 6th, 2010 3:41 AM

Just because the middle Smugleaf evo doesn't line up on those scans doesn't prove anything - the fact remains that there's a random bit of drawing at the side of the scan, which surely wouldn't be there if the scan was of an official document.

giorgos September 6th, 2010 4:02 AM

some rumours about the starters and some other pokemon:
I am John Glover. Obviously this is not my real name but it shared the initials of my real name if you wish to know.

It has come to my attention recently that the Starter Evolutions of Tsutarja, Pokabu, and Mijumaru have made their appearance online and I can indeed confirm, despite the "proof" given against them, that they are indeed real, although they will look slightly different once you see their sprites due to the difference in poses and mediums. In fact, I am quite certain most people here will like them or, at least, find them tolerable to the best of their abilities.

Furthermore, I can also confirm that the rumored number of 156 new Pokemon is true and, in line with what Masuda has stated, they are all new Pokemon...there are no evolutions hidden away this time, all 156 are standalone from previous Pokemon. However, including Victini and Zorua/Zoroark, six of these are unable to be obtained via normal game play without the use of an event.

And now for new information I present to you the overall type count of the new Pokemon, including the Pokemon with multiple forms that have dynamic types...I don't count the type twice if the form has it in both instances, only if the form changed type.

Grass: 20
Water: 26
Fire: 17
Electric: 11
Psychic: 15
Ice: 10
Dragon: 12
Dark: 15
Normal: 22
Fighting: 13
Flying: 18
Poison: 14
Ground: 15
Rock: 12
Bug: 13
Ghost: 10
Steel: 11

Also, for proof, although it won't come till the end of the week, I can also give you the names of the Pokemon to be revealed by the end of this week in CoroCoro. They are Yanappu, Baoppu, Hiyappu, Emonga, Basurao, Tabunne, Darumakka, Shiidomi, Uzutako, Sebekuro, and Takuootu.

pokewalker September 6th, 2010 4:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giorgos (Post 6133240)
some rumours about the starters and some other pokemon:
I am John Glover. Obviously this is not my real name but it shared the initials of my real name if you wish to know.

It has come to my attention recently that the Starter Evolutions of Tsutarja, Pokabu, and Mijumaru have made their appearance online and I can indeed confirm, despite the "proof" given against them, that they are indeed real, although they will look slightly different once you see their sprites due to the difference in poses and mediums. In fact, I am quite certain most people here will like them or, at least, find them tolerable to the best of their abilities.

Furthermore, I can also confirm that the rumored number of 156 new Pokemon is true and, in line with what Masuda has stated, they are all new Pokemon...there are no evolutions hidden away this time, all 156 are standalone from previous Pokemon. However, including Victini and Zorua/Zoroark, six of these are unable to be obtained via normal game play without the use of an event.

And now for new information I present to you the overall type count of the new Pokemon, including the Pokemon with multiple forms that have dynamic types...I don't count the type twice if the form has it in both instances, only if the form changed type.

Grass: 20
Water: 26
Fire: 17
Electric: 11
Psychic: 15
Ice: 10
Dragon: 12
Dark: 15
Normal: 22
Fighting: 13
Flying: 18
Poison: 14
Ground: 15
Rock: 12
Bug: 13
Ghost: 10
Steel: 11

Also, for proof, although it won't come till the end of the week, I can also give you the names of the Pokemon to be revealed by the end of this week in CoroCoro. They are Yanappu, Baoppu, Hiyappu, Emonga, Basurao, Tabunne, Darumakka, Shiidomi, Uzutako, Sebekuro, and Takuootu.

WTF? why is everyone saying that those starter evos are real? they are not real AT ALL! and i'm gonna laugh if they arent at pokexperto, serebii and you, etc. and who are those shiidomi, uzutako, sebekuro, and takuootu? show a picture of them, and i'll believe you.

EDIT: 100st post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://cache2.hyves-static.net/images/smilies/default/smiley_hosanna.gif

Ho-Oh September 6th, 2010 4:06 AM

Just a note, since they were already posted; only discuss the unconfirmed starters from the rumour, since we know how they look. Everything else is just speculation which isn't needed - unless you want to discuss the rest of it in the certain threads that they relate to.

giorgos September 6th, 2010 4:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokewalker (Post 6133242)
WTF? why is everyone saying that those starter evos are real? they are not real AT ALL! and i'm gonna laugh if they arent at pokexperto, serebii and you, etc. and who are those shiidomi, uzutako, sebekuro, and takuootu? show a picture of them, and i'll believe you.

EDIT: 100st post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://cache2.hyves-static.net/images/smilies/default/smiley_hosanna.gif

just to know i didn't write it i just copy paste for an other site.As for Shiidomi and sebekuro i am thinking that they are the evolutions of Shimama and Meguroko due to their names.Also i don't want either these evolutions to be real but we have to accept that these evolutions are the real


pokewalker September 6th, 2010 4:30 AM

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Originally Posted by giorgos (Post 6133245)
just to know i didn't write it i just copy paste for an other site.As for Shiidomi and sebekuro i am thinking that they are the evolutions of Shimama and Meguroko due to their names.Also i don't want either these evolutions to be real but we have to accept that these evolutions are the real


We don't have to accept that they are real because they are NOT real. and i want to see that "source" from serebii and pokexperto.

Surmonter September 6th, 2010 4:51 AM

This pretty much sums up this entire thread:



They're not real. Deal with it. :3

pokewalker September 6th, 2010 4:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6133282)
This pretty much sums up this entire thread:



They're not real. Deal with it. :3

you forgot pokabu's 2nd stage. it's a lickylicky.

billi1000 September 6th, 2010 4:59 AM

There's something strage going on, if every single Pokemon blog, including the trusted ones like Serebii, Pokebeach, Bulbapedia, and Pokexperto are taking these evolutions into serious consideration, there must be something they know we don't. It seems the confirmation came from a very special source for this to happen as the webmasters of these sites have been doing this for year after year have encountered several situations similar to this. They even mensioned it clearly that this issue has come to a very critical level for them to actually post it and stated clearly that there's a slight chance they may be fake.
Anyways, to sum up, I feel if these evos end up being confirmed, every Pokemon blog, especially serebii, is going to own everyone who said they were fake :3.

giorgos September 6th, 2010 5:01 AM

OK see:
Some months ago one of my friends in Greece was said me about the 2 legendaries pokemon Zekrom and Reshiram.I was the first person here in PC who posted this and everyone said that these pokemon were fake.Some hours later the official site and serebii confirmed that they were real.So some days ago the same friend tell me that these will be the evolution of the starters so i trusted again.And these evolutions will be the real.I don't care if you like but these are the evolutions.


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