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Devil Flamingo September 6th, 2010 10:57 AM

lmfao, I like that post, Tyxxom. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow01192
Worthless attempt here but I'm gonna try to steer this more in the direction of the starters themselves and not if they are fake or not. What will the stats be like on these guys? From experience I would say the water will be a bit slow but good in the other area's especially defense, the grass will either be very fast or very slow and pick an attack and defense and it will be good at it and lastly the fire will be decent all around but nothing so high that you really wanna write home about.

I agree we should be concerned less with their looks and more with their typing and stats. I for one will not be using Leafsnake a lot if it turns out to be pure Grass or Grass/Poison, and even less so if it has Sceptile-like stats. I'm hoping it has high special offense and special defense (~100s), good physical offense and defense (~90s), okay speed (~80s) and low HP (~70s).

As for Boarbeque, I'm assuming its HP is high, its defenses are unusually good but not high, and its attack is higher than its special attack, but it's the slowest Fire starter to date. Finally, Otterhorn is probably bulky like other Water starters, but faster than most of them, and it has balanced offence and defense. Mind you, I won't be using them, so I don't really care.

As for typing, I know someone said Grass/Dragon, Fire/Dark and Water/Fighting, but to be perfectly honest, I highly doubt the first two. GF is much too traditional and viciously cyclic for something so original; "cool" types like Dragon, Ghost, Psychic or Dark are never going to be part of a starter for some dumb reason. That we got a Water/Steel starter is a flippin' miracle.

But I do hope Leafsnake is Grass/Dragon or Grass/Flying. I'm a Grass-type user, so a pure Grass won't do (unless it's reeeally good), and neither will a Grass/Poison type (I've got Roserade) and another Grass/Ground starter would just be idiotic, considering how good Torterra is. So I'm not sure what kind of typing Leafsnake is gonna have (if any) but it'd better be original or it'll have no place in my A-Team.

#Emochu September 6th, 2010 10:57 AM

I'm starting to like Mijumaru's final, I expect it to get up on its hind legs in the anime, Giant otters can stand up right?

I expect Pokabu's evolution to be part ground type not fight type.

I wasn't a fan of Pokemon when D/P were being released, so does anyone know when Pokemon.com will update? September the 18th I guess : p

pokewalker September 6th, 2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #Emochu (Post 6134161)
I'm starting to like Mijumaru's final, I expect it to get up on its hind legs in the anime, Giant otters can stand up right?

I expect Pokabu's evolution to be part ground type not fight type.

I wasn't a fan of Pokemon when D/P were being released, so does anyone know when Pokemon.com will update? September the 18th I guess : p

pokemon.com will update as soon as the release data in the USA is out. .co.jp september 18th :P

tomorrow I need to go to school! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#Emochu September 6th, 2010 11:10 AM

[QUOTE=pokewalker;6134174]pokemon.com will update as soon as the release data in the USA is out. .co.jp september 18th :P

tomorrow I need to go to school! NOOOOOOO
Haha I go to school on the 15th :p

So there is a japanese website?

Don't they make updates quicker than the english one?

MistahDude September 6th, 2010 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil Flamingo (Post 6134160)
lmfao, I like that post, Tyxxom. :D



I agree we should be concerned less with their looks and more with their typing and stats. I for one will not be using Leafsnake a lot if it turns out to be pure Grass or Grass/Poison, and even less so if it has Sceptile-like stats. I'm hoping it has high special offense and special defense (~100s), good physical offense and defense (~90s), okay speed (~80s) and low HP (~70s).

As for Boarbeque, I'm assuming its HP is high, its defenses are unusually good but not high, and its attack is higher than its special attack, but it's the slowest Fire starter to date. Finally, Otterhorn is probably bulky like other Water starters, but faster than most of them, and it has balanced offence and defense. Mind you, I won't be using them, so I don't really care.

As for typing, I know someone said Grass/Dragon, Fire/Dark and Water/Fighting, but to be perfectly honest, I highly doubt the first two. GF is much too traditional and viciously cyclic for something so original; "cool" types like Dragon, Ghost, Psychic or Dark are never going to be part of a starter for some dumb reason. That we got a Water/Steel starter is a flippin' miracle.

But I do hope Leafsnake is Grass/Dragon or Grass/Flying. I'm a Grass-type user, so a pure Grass won't do (unless it's reeeally good), and neither will a Grass/Poison type (I've got Roserade) and another Grass/Ground starter would just be idiotic, considering how good Torterra is. So I'm not sure what kind of typing Leafsnake is gonna have (if any) but it'd better be original or it'll have no place in my A-Team.

Im hoping that Tsutaja becomes Grass/Flying or Grass/Psychic

pokewalker September 6th, 2010 11:12 AM

[QUOTE=#Emochu;6134196]
Quote:

Originally Posted by pokewalker (Post 6134174)
pokemon.com will update as soon as the release data in the USA is out. .co.jp september 18th :P

tomorrow I need to go to school! NOOOOOOO
Haha I go to school on the 15th :p

So there is a japanese website?

Don't they make updates quicker than the english one?

yes, but that is in Japanese. And it has Flash, so some things are unable to translate... http://cache2.hyves-static.net/images/smilies/default/smiley_cry.gif

Quote:

Haha I go to school on the 15th :p
damn! unfair!

StyxFTW September 6th, 2010 11:35 AM

I go to school in two days :P

On topic. I hope Tsutaja final evo is Grass/Poison. But it looks more like Grass/Flying. It's last evo looks ridiculous imo. I like Mijumaru's and Pokabu's though :D

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 6th, 2010 11:48 AM

I have to go to school tomorrow :(
Yeah well I think that Tsutarja might be pure Grass :(

[Your Name Here] September 6th, 2010 12:29 PM

Can't wait for the truth to be revealed.

Sammuthegreat September 6th, 2010 1:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyxomm (Post 6133545)
Someone wanted to see those .gif images of the starter evolutions.:

I've become more and more convinced that the released evolutions are fake over the course of today, and those .gifs have settled it in my mind. I wouldn't be surprised if a genuined Pokemon employee "leaked" fake images to stir up some hype in the days before release, because whenever the real starter evolutions are revealed, there's going to be a whole lot of interest...

As for the starters' final stats, I think we can tell a few things from the videos. In terms of HP at level 50, Tsutaja has the worst, Mijumaru the middle and Pokabu way out in front with the most HP.

In terms of Defence/Sp.Def, Mijumaru was in one video hit with an electric attack by Shimama, which was also at lv.50. Mijumaru didn't faint despite the super-effectiveness of the attack, suggesting that Mijumaru has high Defence or Special Defence (depending on whether Wild Bolt is Physical or Special - presumably Physical).

On top of this, we can make a few assumptions based on the Pokemon's appearances and possible typings. My guess is Tsutaja will end up as pure Grass and will be very fast with high Special Attack. I think Pokabu will end up as Fire/Ground or Fire/Dark with high HP and Physical Attack, as well as decent Defence/Special Defence and a decent Special Attack. I think he'll have low Speed though, possibly backed up by the fact that his attack, Nitro Charge, raises Speed. I think Mijumaru will end up as Water/Fighting, and he'll be an all-rounder, with his highest stat being Attack and his lowest being Special Defence.

Surmonter September 6th, 2010 3:20 PM

New Fakemon:

http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/bw_parrot_doubtful-150x150.png

A sprite for Smugleaf's final evo has risen from 4chan. However, there is some proof of it actually being real. ;_;

http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/bw_tsutaajaevo.jpg

rocky505 September 6th, 2010 3:37 PM

The sprite is just like the art so it must be fake.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 6th, 2010 3:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6134684)
New Fakemon:

http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/bw_parrot_doubtful-150x150.png

A sprite for Smugleaf's final evo has risen from 4chan. However, there is some proof of it actually being real. ;_;

http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/bw_tsutaajaevo.jpg

What's the proof of the sprite being real?

Surmonter September 6th, 2010 3:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky505 (Post 6134723)
The sprite is just like the art so it must be fake.

So does almost every other BW sprite we have.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6134738)
What's the proof of the sprite being real?

I don't know. Every place that put that up just said, "There is proof" but didn't say what it was. D:

TheDeadpool September 6th, 2010 4:17 PM

Starter Evoulution Discussion
 
Did anyone's mind get changed like mine? after i saw the released starter evolutions i went from choosing the grass snake to the sea otter. i mean the other two just look a little off to me. does anyone agree? i would get some pics, but im super lazy. :'[

Boarbeque September 6th, 2010 4:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDeadpool (Post 6134849)
Did anyone's mind get changed like mine? after i saw the released starter evolutions i went from choosing the grass snake to the sea otter. i mean the other two just look a little off to me. does anyone agree? i would get some pics, but im super lazy. :'[

Almost everyone knows that those are fake.

Clark September 6th, 2010 6:41 PM

Unless I'm mistaken, haven't the (real) starter evos never been revealed before the game's actual release, in any generation? From what I've read the only instance of an early evo reveal was with Blaziken.

... I personally don't like the designs of the unconfirmed B/W starter evos at all, and I was pretty much convinced they're fake the moment I saw at them. At any rate, I probably won't mind if they are in fact the real deal. I just... won't evolve my Miju past its second stage. :D;;

Åzurε September 6th, 2010 6:43 PM

I've noticed a pattern with the new Pokemon. A bunch of them have markings that look like pants.
Here's the Serebii page.
Examples would be Pokabu, Yanappu, Zoroark, Victini, and even Zekrom and Reshiram, depending on how hard you're looking. Musharna and Kurumiru are a stretch, but still come close.

It's not important or nothin', but I thought it was funny.

In other news, the final forms for Tsutaja and Mijumaru are too different from the second-stages. I think that's why they look weird to me. The only transitions from bipedal to quadrupedal, or vice-versa in starter Pokemon are Mudkip/Marshtomp and Quilava/Typhlosion. Quilava could feasibly stand on two legs for a bit, and develops into a biped throughout it's evolution line, and Mudkip is a basic "cute" form in the first place. It's strange to see a pokemon that is growing as a biped abruptly change into a quadruped for it's third form. As for Tsutaja's gang, well... the final form is definitely odd. heck, the second, confirmed form is odd. It's arms are stubbier, and I suppose it would make sense that the last form would have no limbs, but it seems gaudy when viewed with the other two. If you'll notice, Tsutaja has a smooth back, and the next one has leaves growing where there were none. And then the gaudy one has no leaves again. Something feels off. I just hope that one's wrong, at least.

countryemo September 6th, 2010 7:16 PM

i think that it may be possiple for the 1 evos to be real (well we know smugleaf and wotters are (i dont like these names o.o) the colors are a bit off. but mainly its only the final evo's that are most likley fake. pokabu's middle has a chance i guess :/.
so middle evos: 2 real / 1 possiple-fake
final evos: most likley all fake

Planetes. September 6th, 2010 9:27 PM

not sure if this has been posted yet but a Smuglord sprite surfaced on 4chanhttp://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/tsutaaja_evo.gif

The Red Chain September 6th, 2010 9:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6135414)
not sure if this has been posted yet but a Smuglord sprite surfaced on 4chanhttp://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/tsutaaja_evo.gif

Eh, the sprite is far too well made to actually be in B&W. Like I've said before, B&W's Pokemon sprites sacrificed their quality for motion, and now match in quality with RBY's. That sprite's quality is on par with DPPt's. Blatant failure on the spriter's part. XD


Planetes. September 6th, 2010 10:19 PM

well I also noticed that someone on the nuzlocke forums has this http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/249/1/2/mijumaru__s_final_evolution_by_momijithethird-d2y6i7f.gif
as his avatar, and Nuzlocke=4chan same spriter maybe?

WindBlows September 7th, 2010 2:33 AM

Melkor (Pokéxperto) posted this on his twitter. Real or fake?

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg691/scaled.php?tn=0&server=691&filename=trp.png&xsize=640&ysize=640

http://yfrog.com/j7trpp

He also posted that:


-511: Yanappu.

-512: Yanappu Evo, same design but bigger, with an Elvis forelock, more hair and arrogant pose. Also a pure Grass type.

rocky505 September 7th, 2010 2:39 AM

The silhouette is fake he has already made one for the cat.

Surmonter September 7th, 2010 2:43 AM

^ How does that make it fake?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilite Darkrai (Post 6135664)
Melkor (Pokéxperto) posted this on his twitter. Real or fake?

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg691/scaled.php?tn=0&server=691&filename=trp.png&xsize=640&ysize=640

http://yfrog.com/j7trpp

He also posted that:


-511: Yanappu.

-512: Yanappu Evo, same design but bigger, with an Elvis forelock, more hair and arrogant pose. Also a pure Grass type.

That silhouette is very strange.


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