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Bluerang1 September 8th, 2010 10:40 AM

I feel like crying. If some of this stuff is real, fail on GF's part. In my opinion. And sepaking of opinions, let #Emochu have his own. We're all entitled.

Also, this has to be fake. I've already seen it somewhere before.

Fushigidane-Chan September 8th, 2010 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by takkunlove7 (Post 6138410)
pokejungle is reporting an evo for kibago.

PokeExperto has said it's fake, so I wouldn't put too much credence into it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6138424)
http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/experto_gigaisu-300x124.png
Gen 5 just took a huge crap on the geodude line. These actually look real (from pokeexperto)

Well, the first two are fanart, although the silhouettes they're based off from are real.

WindBlows September 8th, 2010 11:04 AM

If all these 'leaks' were real, Nintendo would have already make Pokéxperto website.

Or at least, that's what I think.

Volroc September 8th, 2010 11:04 AM

yay the starter evos are fake :D
more than enough proof for me :)
i just hope serebii hurries up& removes them,or hes gonna get alot of bad pr, when the real ones are revealed :/

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does anyone remember the 4legged "spider" we saw months ago next to the sarcophagus? anyone else notice it used either spark,or wild volt (or a similar electric attack)? im guessing its bug/electic :)

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oh& i saw a list containing the amount of new pokemon& their types is that confirmed? :)

Fushigidane-Chan September 8th, 2010 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6138464)
yay the starter evos are fake :D
more than enough proof for me :)

What?

At this point, they're practically confirmed to be real.

Quote:

oh& i saw a list containing the amount of new pokemon& their types is that confirmed? :)
No, it's not.

pokewalker September 8th, 2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6138471)
What?

At this point, they're practically confirmed to be real.



No, it's not.

Are you a Pokéxperto slave or something?

EDIT: @fushigidanechan cool signature :D

Volroc September 8th, 2010 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6138471)
What?

At this point, they're practically confirmed to be real.



No, it's not.

have you seen the zoomed out pictures?

im sure its still on pokebeach, & in this thread

& anyone could tell those borders are horribly fake without those photo proving it

not to mention, i never knew nintendo to trace over their own work *points to the small curve next to the 1st grass evos head*

plus they dont match the official artwork AT ALL, the colouration is horrible, plain, & amateur at best (this is coming from a major in art)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokewalker (Post 6138485)
Are you a Pokéxperto slave or something?

EDIT: @fushigidanechan cool signature :D

i second both of those :)

Fushigidane-Chan September 8th, 2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pokewalker (Post 6138485)
Are you a Pokéxperto slave or something?

Oh, yeah. I'm PokeExperto's slave, simply because I happen to understand how unconfirmed Pokemon, who have been backed up as real by Serebii, WPM, PokeJungle, and many others, have an extremely large chance of being legit.

Great logic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6138490)
have you seen the zoomed out pictures?

im sure its still on pokebeach, & in this thread

& anyone could tell those borders are horribly fake without those photo proving it

not to mention, i never knew nintendo to trace over their own work *points to the small curve next to the 1st grass evos head*

plus they dont match the official artwork AT ALL, the colouration is horrible, plain, & amateur at best (this is coming from a major in art))

These were arguments I used. But when you take into consideration how PokeExperto had leaked a silhouette of a cat-like Pokemon, which happened to be confirmed legit, along with the fact numerous other important figures in the fanbase have confirmed the legitimacy of the evolutions, it's hard to deny them.

Volroc September 8th, 2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6138505)
These were arguments I used. But when you take into consideration how PokeExperto had leaked a silhouette of a cat-like Pokemon, which happened to be confirmed legit, along with the fact numerous other important figures in the fanbase have confirmed the legitimacy of the evolutions, it's hard to deny them.

i saw it on serebii & pokebeach first.... so ya...

Fushigidane-Chan September 8th, 2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6138509)
i saw it on serebii & pokebeach first.... so ya...

Your point?

Serebii had put them up, then soon took them down. But after being shown proof the evolutions were real by PokeExperto, he put the evolutions back up on the site again.

Volroc September 8th, 2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6138514)
Your point?

Serebii had put them up, then soon took them down. But after being shown proof the evolutions were real by PokeExperto, he put the evolutions back up on the site again.

and now theres more than enough proof,and he changed his statement to say its NOT confirmed :P i trust serebii before experto, since experto is even less reliable than serebii :P

Angelroid September 8th, 2010 11:36 AM

They are fake, So let's stop fighting about it.

And Volroc is right.

Volroc September 8th, 2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelroid (Post 6138537)
They are fake, So let's stop fighting about it.

And Volroc is right.

my last comment want fighting it was merely a jest :laugh:

but thank you for keepin the peace :)

Arma September 8th, 2010 11:38 AM

Man I pray that the starters' evos are fake, except for mujimaru's first stage evo.

Compare the evos to already existing pokemon, Pokabu's first stage evo is basically a fire type Azumarril, and his second stage a Rhyperior. Mujimaru's first stage also resembles Marshtomp a lot, but I kinda like it, so that doesn't really matter. Mujimaru's second stage also looks like Dialga, wich, unfortunately, isn't a good thing. and Tsutaja's final stage is just plain ugly.

Fushigidane-Chan September 8th, 2010 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6138522)
and now theres more than enough proof,and he changed his statement to say its NOT confirmed :P i trust serebii before experto, since experto is even less reliable than serebii :P

Serebii has said they're real, without a doubt. He's said this on his forums.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelroid (Post 6138537)
They are fake

:|

Volroc September 8th, 2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elarmasecreta (Post 6138542)
Man I pray that the starters' evos are fake, except for mujimaru's first stage evo.

Compare the evos to already existing pokemon, Pokabu's first stage evo is basically a fire type Azumarril, and his second stage a Rhyperior. Mujimaru's first stage also resembles Marshtomp a lot, but I kinda like it, so that doesn't really matter. Mujimaru's second stage also looks like Dialga, wich, unfortunately, isn't a good thing. and Tsutaja's final stage is just plain ugly.

im the completely reverse, the other evos rhyperior wannabe& dialga wannabe are gawd awful IMO

but i did like the grass final, its a Quetzalcoatl minus the wings, which is what im hoping the grass starter turns into :)

Sammuthegreat September 8th, 2010 11:41 AM

I know I stand to look like a fool if I'm wrong in saying this, but I'm just convinced that the evos are fake. Evolutionary lines have something in common at every stage - things like the fact that Tsutaja and the confirmed 1st stage evo have the same leaf on their tail. The final evo does not.

On top of this, I just find it incredibly difficult to believe that Gamefreak would have so little creativity to make new Pokemon that look SO similar to Rhyperior (Pokabu's final evo) and Salamence (Mijumaru's final evo), and even Milotic (Tsutaja's final evo). I know a lot of people think they're running out of ideas, but this would just be ridiculous.

Looking at those .gifs showing the way the sprites could have been created - i.e. by photoshopping existing Pokemon like Lickilicky and Rhyperior - just convince me even further that they're fake, as does the fact that little inconsistencies are all over the designs, like Pokabu's final form having different-coloured claws, and Mijumaru's final stage having asymmetrical moustaches.

In short, I just can't honestly believe they're real. Which is handy, seeing as I think they're nowhere near as good as they could and should be.

Volroc September 8th, 2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6138543)
Serebii has said they're real, without a doubt. He's said this on his forums.

not anymore

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

scroll down several days. enough said :)
their fake, more than enough proof, plus my eyes have perfect vision :P

Fushigidane-Chan September 8th, 2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6138552)
not anymore

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

scroll down several days. enough said :)
their fake, more than enough proof, plus my eyes have perfect vision :P

What he said several days ago doesn't matter, as he said this yesterday.

Volroc September 8th, 2010 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammuthegreat (Post 6138547)
I know I stand to look like a fool if I'm wrong in saying this, but I'm just convinced that the evos are fake. Evolutionary lines have something in common at every stage - things like the fact that Tsutaja and the confirmed 1st stage evo have the same leaf on their tail. The final evo does not.

On top of this, I just find it incredibly difficult to believe that Gamefreak would have so little creativity to make new Pokemon that look SO similar to Rhyperior (Pokabu's final evo) and Salamence (Mijumaru's final evo), and even Milotic (Tsutaja's final evo). I know a lot of people think they're running out of ideas, but this would just be ridiculous.

Looking at those .gifs showing the way the sprites could have been created - i.e. by photoshopping existing Pokemon like Lickilicky and Rhyperior - just convince me even further that they're fake, as does the fact that little inconsistencies are all over the designs, like Pokabu's final form having different-coloured claws, and Mijumaru's final stage having asymmetrical moustaches.

In short, I just can't honestly believe they're real. Which is handy, seeing as I think they're nowhere near as good as they could and should be.

i never thought they were running out of ideas to begin with :)
so im 100% with this :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6138554)
What he said several days ago doesn't matter, as he said this yesterday.

the edit was made today/yesterday depending on your time zone :/

Fushigidane-Chan September 8th, 2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6138557)
the edit was made today/yesterday depending on your time zone :/

Edit? I'm referring to a forum post.

In addition, this is what Serebii said at first:

Quote:

Normally, I wouldn't post something like this but the circumstances behind the post has encouraged me to do it. A short time ago, a user posted on the Japanese forum 2ch various images of what are allegedly the evolutions of the starter Pokémon; Tsutarja, Pokabu & Mijumaru. This post was placed upon 2ch's Siberia board where leaks have come in the past. For example, the starters names, Professor Araragi, Team Plasma and both Triple & Rotation Battles were posted there back in April, way before they were included in CoroCoro. As 2ch publically logs the IP, I was able to trace the IP of the posters of both rumours to the same area of Japan running on the same ISP, which in itself isn't significant but does add credence to this. These images are NOT CONFIRMED AT ALL so don't take them as fact yet. However, due to the circumstances stated above, I am going to post them. Just remember that these are not confirmed and may very well turn out to be fake. We'll bring more on this as and when it comes
Edit: We have reason to question these as a user has claimed them to be his creation but he provided no evidence for this.
Later, he said this:

Quote:

On Wednesday, these images leaked onto 2ch for the evolutions of Tsutaja, Pokabu & Mijumaru. Everyone was unsure about them until some user claimed he created them. However, with no evidence, we were all unsure as to whether they were real or fake. However, I have received confirmation that these Pokémon are in fact the evolutions of the starter Pokémon. While there's a slim chance that this is wrong, everything I have been told has turned out accurate thus far. We'll bring more as it comes. Click the spoiler tag to see the evolutions in case you didn't catch them on Wednesday.
And here is PokeBeach's own confirmation on the evolutions:

http://pokebeach.com/2010/09/isshu-starter-evolutions-apparently-leaked-blue-yanappu

Angelroid September 8th, 2010 12:00 PM

Both, Tsutaja and Mijumaru 2nd evo are right for sure.

But, Just in diff colors. :)

Volroc September 8th, 2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fushigidane-Chan (Post 6138571)
Edit? I'm referring to a forum post.

In addition, this is what Serebii said at first:



Later, he said this:



And here is PokeBeach's own confirmation on the evolutions:

http://pokebeach.com/2010/09/isshu-starter-evolutions-apparently-leaked-blue-yanappu

take a look at the "official" artwork

here now look at these:

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/7/7e/006Charizard.png/765px-006Charizard.png

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/3e/254Sceptile.pnghttp://...

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/7/7f/395Empoleon.png/480px-395Empoleon.png

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/2/20/206Dunsparce.png/525px-206Dunsparce.png

the colours are far more vibrant than those fake starter evos, that alone is proof.

heres some 5th gen official artwork if your not convinced:

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/de/494Tsutarja.png
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/4/45/Victini.png/481px-Victini.png

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/38/Swanna.png

compare the quality of the artwork

i have 20/20 vision, so i can see the clear difference in both the styles, the colours, & the over all quality.

Sammuthegreat September 8th, 2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelroid (Post 6138589)
Both, Tsutaja and Mijumaru 2nd evo are right for sure.

This is a good point - Serebii could be right in saying that the evolutions are confirmed as real, but he may not realise that only the 1st stage evos are and the final stages aren't.

Volroc September 8th, 2010 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammuthegreat (Post 6138609)
This is a good point - Serebii could be right in saying that the evolutions are confirmed as real, but he may not realise that only the 1st stage evos are and the final stages aren't.

thats what ive been trying to say :)
we know the first stages on those 2 are confirmed, but the finals arent, & with the awful artwork compared to the official artwork ive seen so far, i find it hard to believe, even the beta picture he put up in an earlier post has far better quality.


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