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Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebloom (Post 6153222)
No info on supposed Anteater pokemon other than it's a fire-type? I'm quite interested in that one, lol.

so am i, if the fire/ghost fails, i hope to hell this one doesnt...

thanx live-sama im glad someone appreciates my hard work& gives me credit :)

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2010 5:10 PM

Page 14 is the outside page and Page 15 in the inside page. They were prolly scanned seperatly and pasted together.

As for page markers, Game Informer does the same thing. The page markers are one way and then different on another page, that's a common thing for magazines. Reshiram doesn't even look like he's heading towards the center crease like he should be, and if the pages were ripped out, it missing part of its body.

Why would someone want to fake Cross Flame and Cross Thunder as well?

Omicron September 13th, 2010 5:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153231)
so am i, if the fire/ghost fails, i hope to hell this one doesnt...

thanx live-sama im glad someone appreciates my hard work& gives me credit :)

Hey, I'm sorry Volroc :) I wasn't taking part on this forum, I came here and saw no one was talking about that, and thought on posting it.
:)

Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153235)
Page 14 is the outside page and Page 15 in the inside page. They were prolly scanned seperatly and pasted together.

As for page markers, Game Informer does the same thing. The page markers are one way and then different on another page, that's a common thing for magazines. Reshiram doesn't even look like he's heading towards the center crease like he should be, and if the pages were ripped out, it missing part of its body.

Why would someone want to fake Cross Flame and Cross Thunder as well?

but why would the wing be cut off while the nose heads on the next page?

plus why would 2 attacks, from different pokemon make the opposite pokemon stronger? makes no bloody sense IMO :/
if your rivals you wanna make the other one WEAKER :/

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Originally Posted by Omicron (Post 6153242)
Hey, I'm sorry Volroc :) I wasn't taking part on this forum, I came here and saw no one was talking about that, and thought on posting it.
:)

its chill :) i just found it kinda pissy that people need to have it pieced together for them & they cant do their own detective work, thank you for posting it up for those incapable of doing work on their own :)
im just hungry, i over reacted, no big deal :)
sorry bout that, i need to fetch me some dinner :cer_laugh:

Zelda September 13th, 2010 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Omicron (Post 6153177)
O.O The evolutions of the starters may be fake after all!!!!

It's an update on bulbapedia, the coro coro scan with miju's, tsu's and pokabu's evolutions may have been faked!!!

Watch this image http://i52.tinypic.com/24wrrzd.jpg

This was shown before, but like I said we're still unsure. Pokémon Sunday had shown all the new pokémon from the scans letting those be confirmed except the final starter evolutions. We're going to have to wait the five days to find out which won't be a long wait after all. So I guess it's safe to say the starter evolutions are still remaining at the unconfirmed list. I guess I'm glad, but there is only a slight chance that they could be fake. ):

It wouldn't take a long while to get used to them anyway. People have already mentioned what they would choose based on what has been shown. Take note the starters are usually hyped in the beginning until the end of the storyline and at the end, many start building new pokémon teams and having the Hall of Fame team laying the PC box. So if the starter evolutions make that big of a hype, think of the new legendaries and other pokémon to come soon.

However aside from that, there are some people who find the evolutions to look alright. The only problem I have is with Pokabu's evolution line. I excepted a more laid back evolution. I never expected it to stand on two legs instead of four like a normal little piggy would. xD;

As for Tsutaja's and Mijumaru's line, they've grown to me. Sure the last evolution seen for Mijumaru doesn't match up too well and it would have been better on two legs, at least it wasn't overdone. There will be many more pokémon to judge and even if the starters are a main thing when starting the game; it doesn't make the end, or in fact the most of the storyline.

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2010 5:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153245)
but why would the wing be cut off while the nose heads on the next page?

plus why would 2 attacks, from different pokemon make the opposite pokemon stronger? makes no bloody sense IMO :/
if your rivals you wanna make the other one WEAKER :/



its chill :) i just found it kinda pissy that people need to have it pieced together for them & they cant do their own detective work, thank you for posting it up for those incapable of doing work on their own :)
im just hungry, i over reacted, no big deal :)
sorry bout that, i need to fetch me some dinner :cer_laugh:

The Nose and Wing stop right at the middle and the rest is missing from them. If the nose went over, then the reg aura would pass onto the second page as well.

As for the attacks, relation purposes. The attacks don't increase each other the way you say. They are direct counters to the other. If Zekrom and Reshiram used them at the same time, slowest would become the counter.

Why does Counter, Mirror Coat and Metal Burst do double the damage dealt to the opponent that attacked the user?

Cross Flame and Cross Thunder are regular attacks, but they act like Assurance with specific targeted attacks hit.

thedestinedblade September 13th, 2010 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153231)
so am i, if the fire/ghost fails, i hope to hell this one doesnt...

thanx live-sama im glad someone appreciates my hard work& gives me credit :)

Same here. I like that the fire-type isn't getting shafted this gen, but I'm also hoping for a couple strong ones too. :]

Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:31 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153288)
The Nose and Wing stop right at the middle and the rest is missing from them. If the nose went over, then the reg aura would pass onto the second page as well.

As for the attacks, relation purposes. The attacks don't increase each other the way you say. They are direct counters to the other. If Zekrom and Reshiram used them at the same time, slowest would become the counter.

Why does Counter, Mirror Coat and Metal Burst do double the damage dealt to the opponent that attacked the user?

Cross Flame and Cross Thunder are regular attacks, but they act like Assurance with specific targeted attacks hit.

but the nose does, but the aura doesnt, which would prove it fake even more so would it not? just enlarge the image& look very closely, it just barely falls over onto the other page.

i can see that now :)

Surmonter September 13th, 2010 5:34 PM

That scan can be explained.

They places the scans next to each other in the wrong order. 15 is supposed to be on the left, and 16 on the right. But it has been proven to be completely real. Someone recorded a video of their Coro Coro.

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2010 5:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153302)
but the nose does, but the aura doesnt, which would prove it fake even more so would it not? just enlarge the image& look very closely, it just barely falls over onto the other page.

i can see that now :)

I did enlarge it, the nose stops right at the middle. It doesn't cross over onto the other page.

Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebloom (Post 6153300)
Same here. I like that the fire-type isn't getting shafted this gen, but I'm also hoping for a couple strong ones too. :]

so am i but, compared to the other types it is, it always seems to get the least support :(

no offense to dragons, their my fav & i love them to death, but their supposed to be rare, so them having only 2 families& 3legends seems pretty normal to me, gen3 blew my mind with 4families, but i assumed they were making up for gen2s 1dragon.

fire is one of the 4main types: grass, fire, water, & electric
it just seems like they should be quite high in numbers :/
while psychic, dark, & dragon are supposed to be rarer& harder to find :)

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Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6153308)
That scan can be explained.

They places the scans next to each other in the wrong order. 15 is supposed to be on the left, and 16 on the right. But it has been proven to be completely real. Someone recorded a video of their Coro Coro.

still doesnt explain why theres no yellow pokeball

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153309)
I did enlarge it, the nose stops right at the middle. It doesn't cross over onto the other page.

i guess my eyes just see closer details :/

HandyBandyZandy September 13th, 2010 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153245)
but why would the wing be cut off while the nose heads on the next page?

plus why would 2 attacks, from different pokemon make the opposite pokemon stronger? makes no bloody sense IMO :/
if your rivals you wanna make the other one WEAKER :/



its chill :) i just found it kinda pissy that people need to have it pieced together for them & they cant do their own detective work, thank you for posting it up for those incapable of doing work on their own :)
im just hungry, i over reacted, no big deal :)
sorry bout that, i need to fetch me some dinner :cer_laugh:

I don't want to seem rude here, so just know that I mean this message with the highest of respect.

It's true that those two pages may have been faked, I'll give you that. But if you go to Serebii and look at the page with Aloe, you'll see that Pokabu's evo is right next to her. Now if you counter saying that that page is fake, then go to Pokebeach and look at the two pages with both Aloe and the Dento leaders and the Monkey Trio. If you look at the crease, you'll notice that; 1. The bottom left part of Mokoma's skirt is continued on the next page, and matches perfectly. 2. Poddo(I think that's his name)'s cuff and his right leg both continue onto the next page, and also match up perfectly. Now personally, this is enough evidence to prove that the page with Pokabu's evo is true, and thus, Chaobuu exists, and leads me to assume that so do Janobii and Futachimaru.

Once again, I make this statement with the utmost respect towards everyone. I'm just throwing my beliefs in the mosh pit.

Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HandyBandyZandy (Post 6153330)
I don't want to seem rude here, so just know that I mean this message with the highest of respect.

It's true that those two pages may have been faked, I'll give you that. But if you go to Serebii and look at the page with Aloe, you'll see that Pokabu's evo is right next to her. Now if you counter saying that that page is fake, then go to Pokebeach and look at the two pages with both Aloe and the Dento leaders and the Monkey Trio. If you look at the crease, you'll notice that; 1. The bottom left part of Mokoma's skirt is continued on the next page, and matches perfectly. 2. Poddo(I think that's his name)'s cuff and his right leg both continue onto the next page, and also match up perfectly. Now personally, this is enough evidence to prove that the page with Pokabu's evo is true, and thus, Chaobuu exists, and leads me to assume that so do Janobii and Futachimaru.

Once again, I make this statement what the utmost respect towards everyone. I'm just throwing my beliefs in the mosh pit.

which is why i dont doubt the 1st evos anymore :)

just cuz a page could fake, doesnt mean the info on them isnt/couldnt correct :)

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2010 5:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153317)

still doesnt explain why theres no yellow pokeball

Magazines do it all the time. Its usually part of their design. May look odd, but that's just how they work.


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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153339)
which is why i dont doubt the 1st evos anymore :)

just cuz a page could fake, doesnt mean the info on them isnt/couldnt correct :)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Omicron
O.O The evolutions of the starters may be fake after all!!!!

It's an update on bulbapedia, the coro coro scan with miju's, tsu's and pokabu's evolutions may have been faked!!!

Watch this image http://i52.tinypic.com/24wrrzd.jpg
OH SERIOUSLY WTF!?

I SAID THIS THE ENTIRE TIME! & Now you believe someone else just cuz they gave you a bloody picture? when i just told you to look for yourself, seriously how bloody lazy can you people get!?

go on forever-san give me a demerit, but you know im right, you were there, so was half the others on this thread, i was the one who stated those obvious facts on the very same night they were revealed!

hell go back a few pages, or go to the thread dedicated to the corocoro scans & pokesunday & youll see it was me who said this since that page surfaced.
Handy just proved that Pokabu's evo is real by using another scan from the same CoroCoro. Which means you were wrong in this little deal about them being fake.

Please don't contradict your self. You just said that the "fake" scans proved that the evolutions were fake and were just given evidence that they aren't fake.

HandyBandyZandy September 13th, 2010 5:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153339)
which is why i dont doubt the 1st evos anymore :)

just cuz a page could fake, doesnt mean the info on them isnt/couldnt correct :)

Okay. I just thought I'd put my opinions out there. :)

Thanks for the civility, by the way. I'm used to people in real life tearing apart everything I say. So it's much appreciated. :)

The Red Chain September 13th, 2010 5:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Surmonter (Post 6153308)
That scan can be explained.

They places the scans next to each other in the wrong order. 15 is supposed to be on the left, and 16 on the right. But it has been proven to be completely real. Someone recorded a video of their Coro Coro.

Do you perhaps have this video still? I'm actually excited about Miju's evolution at the very least, and kinda want it to be real. The other two can go burn. ;; It's strange how the order is done wrong though. It's almost unreal how that works. XD; I guess in general I want Miju's to be somewhat real [design still kept nearly the same], and the other two to be redesigned. Going from being quad to bi is just far too weird for me when it comes to Pokabu. I wanted him to be a nasty, raged boar with huge tusks and fire spewing from his body. But nope.

We instead have MACHO MACHO MAN PIG!! :D


Volroc September 13th, 2010 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153346)
Magazines do it all the time. Its usually part of their design. May look odd, but that's just how they work.

good point :/ its an annoying,but obvious fact :)

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Originally Posted by HandyBandyZandy (Post 6153352)
Okay. I just thought I'd put my opinions out there. :)

Thanks for the civility, by the way. I'm used to people in real life tearing apart everything I say. So it's much appreciated. :)

of course, your welcome,& feel free to state your opinion :)
i know how ya feel, i get it in real life& on the internet :/
we all have our opinions, we may not all agree on things, but thats what makes us different :)
if we agreed on everything, there would never be progress, as long as we disagree we can find out the truth& hopefully thatll be good enough for us all :)

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Originally Posted by The Red Chain (Post 6153358)

Do you perhaps have this video still? I'm actually excited about Miju's evolution at the very least, and kinda want it to be real. The other two can go burn. ;; It's strange how the order is done wrong though. It's almost unreal how that works. XD; I guess in general I want Miju's to be somewhat real [design still kept nearly the same], and the other two to be redesigned. Going from being quad to bi is just far too weird for me when it comes to Pokabu. I wanted him to be a nasty, raged boar with huge tusks and fire spewing from his body. But nope.

We instead have MACHO MACHO MAN PIG!! :D


i agree, i too wish to see this video, that way i can discern truth from fiction with my own eyes :)

Conan Edogawa September 13th, 2010 5:59 PM

In response to the image that was posted, the Japanese do indeed read from right to left.


Since the second evos were confirmed I think it's safe to say the source was right. They were right with everything they said, why doubt them about the final evos?

thedestinedblade September 13th, 2010 6:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153317)
so am i but, compared to the other types it is, it always seems to get the least support :(

no offense to dragons, their my fav & i love them to death, but their supposed to be rare, so them having only 2 families& 3legends seems pretty normal to me, gen3 blew my mind with 4families, but i assumed they were making up for gen2s 1dragon.

fire is one of the 4main types: grass, fire, water, & electric
it just seems like they should be quite high in numbers :/
while psychic, dark, & dragon are supposed to be rarer& harder to find :)

Yeah, not including this gen, there's only about 33 fire-types, which is pretty low when compared to grass and water. Even if two of the fire-lines are both monkeys, I'm still glad they got more than gen 4, which was only 4. We even got some new typing with fire/psychic and fire/ghost. I think there's a fire/bug too no?

Livewire September 13th, 2010 6:07 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153346)
Magazines do it all the time. Its usually part of their design. May look odd, but that's just how they work.






Handy just proved that Pokabu's evo is real by using another scan from the same CoroCoro. Which means you were wrong in this little deal about them being fake.

Please don't contradict your self. You just said that the "fake" scans proved that the evolutions were fake and were just given evidence that they aren't fake.

Is it still possible that the 1st stage evolutions are real, but the final evolutions are fake?

Xander Olivieri September 13th, 2010 6:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6153408)
Is it still possible that the 1st stage evolutions are real, but the final evolutions are fake?

Yes. Mijumaru's final has the best chance of being true though. No information of the general body look for Tsutaja and Pokabu's final forms was never hinted, but Mijumaru was said to be a sea lion look. While there was only one contradicting fact against the current picture of it, its not a hard fact as the under belly looks like it has a shell as well.

The First Stages have been confirmed though.

Ho-Oh September 13th, 2010 6:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Volroc (Post 6153209)
OH SERIOUSLY WTF!?

I SAID THIS THE ENTIRE TIME! & Now you believe someone else just cuz they gave you a bloody picture? when i just told you to look for yourself, seriously how bloody lazy can you people get!?

go on forever-san give me a demerit, but you know im right, you were there, so was half the others on this thread, i was the one who stated those obvious facts on the very same night they were revealed!

lol, surprisingly that was totally within the rules. :(

Aaaand, I believe the second scan is real, but the one of the three evolutions, not so sure. Either way, Pokabu's evo is confirmed for me.

Livewire September 13th, 2010 6:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6153424)
Yes. Mijumaru's final has the best chance of being true though. No information of the general body look for Tsutaja and Pokabu's final forms was never hinted, but Mijumaru was said to be a sea lion look. While there was only one contradicting fact against the current picture of it, its not a hard fact as the under belly looks like it has a shell as well.

The First Stages have been confirmed though.

Ahhh i see. I can see Miju3 being the most likey to be legit based on what Sugumori said. Well, we'll find out in a week. xD

Volroc September 13th, 2010 6:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebloom (Post 6153391)
Yeah, not including this gen, there's only about 33 fire-types, which is pretty low when compared to grass and water. Even if two of the fire-lines are both monkeys, I'm still glad they got more than gen 4, which was only 4. We even got some new typing with fire/psychic and fire/ghost. I think there's a fire/bug too no?

cant really count gen4 as giving any fire types, cuz the beginner fire type is always, & the only other fire type was obtained threw trade& after mani storyline :(

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6153408)
Is it still possible that the 1st stage evolutions are real, but the final evolutions are fake?

yes it possible

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6153434)


lol, surprisingly that was totally within the rules. :(

Aaaand, I believe the second scan is real, but the one of the three evolutions, not so sure. Either way, Pokabu's evo is confirmed for me.

then you should be glad i didnt post the 1st 15drafts :cer_laugh:

agreed.

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im still hoping the types are wrong& change to this:
grass/dragon-or-psychic
fire/dark
water/ice-fighting

id like that alot more :) yay or nay? :)

Boarbeque September 13th, 2010 7:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Omicron (Post 6153177)
O.O The evolutions of the starters may be fake after all!!!!

It's an update on bulbapedia, the coro coro scan with miju's, tsu's and pokabu's evolutions may have been faked!!!

Watch this image http://i52.tinypic.com/24wrrzd.jpg

Pokebeach says it came from a separate pull out pamphlet, but I don't buy it.


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