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prateek203 July 29th, 2010 9:12 AM

Intel Core Processors
 
Is it true that Intel is gonna stop producing Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad processors cause or Core i3, Core i5, and Core i7 processors?

twocows July 29th, 2010 9:50 AM

Considering their i# line of processors is better in every way for about the same price, yes. There's no reason to keep producing obsolete hardware.

prateek203 July 29th, 2010 9:52 AM

But is the difference between them significant? Specially Core 2 Duo and Core i3. I'm gonna buy laptop, confused between Core 2 Duo, Core i3, and Core i5 :S

twocows July 29th, 2010 9:57 AM

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Originally Posted by prateek203 (Post 6015298)
But is the difference between them significant? Specially Core 2 Duo and Core i3. I'm gonna buy laptop, confused between Core 2 Duo, Core i3, and Core i5 :S

The Core 2 Duo line encompassed a wide variety of processors, from low-end to medium-high end. The Core i3 is the new low-end and is about on par with the medium-end Core 2 Duo processors. The Core i5 line is the new medium-end and is about on par with the higher-end Core 2 Duos and Core 2 Quads (in the case of the i5-750).

prateek203 July 29th, 2010 10:06 AM

But the series is like ......Dual Core, Core 2 Solo, Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Extreme, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, Core i7 Extreme.

twocows July 29th, 2010 10:14 AM

Core 2 is just the branding for the previous generation of processors just as i# is branding for the current generation. Dual core is a type of processor that has two logical (I think?) cores, whereas quad core has four. There are a lot of advantages to having more cores and usually very few disadvantages (the only real disadvantage is that older software/games usually don't take advantage of multiple cores).

The i5-750 is the lowest quad-core processor in the current generation and it outclasses pretty much everything from the Core 2 line.

Archer July 30th, 2010 12:32 AM

The only reason to get the Core 2 series would be:

a. You don't want to spend a lot of money; the Core 2 Duos are still cheaper than the i3s
b. You need more battery life on a laptop. The late Core 2 Duos use less power than the i3s.

If you think i3s are too low-end to compare, you need to go with the i5.

Dawn July 30th, 2010 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by prateek203 (Post 6015298)
But is the difference between them significant? Specially Core 2 Duo and Core i3. I'm gonna buy laptop, confused between Core 2 Duo, Core i3, and Core i5 :S

Yes.

Core 2 is tier 1
i# is tier 2

All tier 2 processors are superior to their tier 1 counterparts.

The core i3 was pretty much designed to replace the Core 2 Duo. So yeah... all around better.

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Originally Posted by Archer (Post 6017739)
the Core 2 Duos are still cheaper than the i3s

They aren't significantly cheaper, though. They're practically the same price according to Google Products. You'd be literally sacrificing significant performance for a couple of bucks if anything at all. i3 definitely gets more bang for your buck, and that's what matters when the price is that close.

prateek203 July 30th, 2010 2:07 AM

Well, I just came across a new fact, that i3, i5, i7 will NOT support previous 32-bit processes. They'll only support with new 64-bit processes. While the Core 2 Duo will support all.

Dawn July 30th, 2010 2:56 AM

My desktop has a Core i7 processor and runs dozens of 32 bit processes at all times. I'm afraid this "fact" is false.

Perhaps you were talking about this quote from this page?
Quote:

◊ 64-bit computing on Intel® architecture requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers, and applications enabled for Intel® 64 architecture. Processors will not operate (including 32-bit operation) without an Intel 64 architecture-enabled BIOS. Performance will vary depending on your hardware and software configurations. Consult with your system vendor for more information.
What this says to me is that you have nothing to worry about when buying a new computer that comes with an i3/5/7 by default.

prateek203 July 30th, 2010 3:10 AM

No, a few people told me this, lol. And I read it someone on internet too. So can it work with them?

Archer July 30th, 2010 4:25 AM

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Originally Posted by prateek203 (Post 6017920)
No, a few people told me this, lol. And I read it someone on internet too. So can it work with them?

Uh, yeah it's fine with 32-bit processes. Half of 64-bit Windows runs on x32 processes. The architecture itself is very similar, so there's no point to not support x32.

And Yellow, they are cheaper in quite a few instances. Basically any new product that offers both C2Ds and i3s offers the C2D for at least $100 less. See: Alienware M11x and Macbook Pro 13" vs 15".

Dawn July 30th, 2010 4:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Archer (Post 6018035)
And Yellow, they are cheaper in quite a few instances. Basically any new product that offers both C2Ds and i3s offers the C2D for at least $100 less. See: Alienware M11x and Macbook Pro 13" vs 15".

Because Alienware and Apple are great places to look for a good price on something...

Here allow me:
Core i3

Core 2 Duo

I'd like to point out that even though on the Core 2 Duo search it says $90 New, I searched and could not find anything below $110 let alone 90 on that list. While that is mysterious, the actual data is valid. It shows that the price difference is... yeah...


Here's an even more indepth look at the price difference.

Core 2 Duo E7500 (2.93 GHz) $118 from Amazon.

Core 2 Duo E7500 (2.93 GHz) $118 from Newegg

Core 2 Duo E7500 (2.93 GHz) $120 from TigerDirect


Core i3 2.93 GHz $115 at Amazon

Core i3 2.93 GHz $115 at Newegg

Core i3 2.93 GHz $120 at TigerDirect



Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 6018035)
Uh, yeah it's fine with 32-bit processes. Half of 64-bit Windows runs on x32 processes. The architecture itself is very similar, so there's no point to not support x32.

He is right on that though Prateek. It will work.

prateek203 July 30th, 2010 5:25 AM

Yeah I guess then I'll drop the though of Core 2 Duo and I'll get Core i3 or Core i5 for my new laptop (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=227314)

twocows July 30th, 2010 1:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 6018035)
Uh, yeah it's fine with 32-bit processes. Half of 64-bit Windows runs on x32 processes. The architecture itself is very similar, so there's no point to not support x32.

I think you mean x86 or just 32-bit, there's no such thing as x32. But you're right, the i# line supports 32-bit processes just fine, I know this firsthand.

Archer July 31st, 2010 1:36 AM

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Originally Posted by twocows (Post 6019514)
I think you mean x86 or just 32-bit, there's no such thing as x32. But you're right, the i# line supports 32-bit processes just fine, I know this firsthand.

I know that but I couldn't be stuffed writing 32-bit and I knew that x86 would confuse him even further. lol. If I really minded, I'd put x86-64, which is the correct notation for 64-bit. It's all still 386 architecture at the heart of it, anyway.

Yellow, keep in mind that the H55/1156 boards aren't nearly as cheap as the 775 boards. In DIY builds, sure they're about the same price, but considering that retailers are putting the C2D machines on special to get them out, they will be cheaper.


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