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alextreme July 22nd, 2010 1:56 AM

cross-gen interactions
 
So it has been confirmed a while ago that you can directly trade pokemon from your IV gen game to your V generation game but do you think that there will be other interactions between the 2 generations ?

MrGnawty July 22nd, 2010 2:11 AM

There is an airport in Isshu, so it is possible.

giradialkia July 22nd, 2010 2:45 AM

It should be possible, but it probably isn't. I mean, it should be, since it's on the DS, and since Gen 4 games were on the DS and could connect with the GBA games, Gen 5 games should be the same, in my opinion. Although since it's a new Gen, I doubt it. (Has it been confirmed that you can trade between the Gen 4 and 5 games? I'm pretty sure I read that you could just transfer from your Gen 4 games in a Pal Park method- in which case I doubt to a further extent that connection to the 3rd Gen games will be possible)

Timbjerr July 22nd, 2010 2:49 AM

If you're trying to imply the possibility of cross-generational battling, that'd be very unlikely. Aside from the annoyance of preventing the B/W player from using fifth gen pokemon or attacks, the battle system may see another overhaul like it did between genIII and genIV, making compatibility impossible.

Jaiyke July 22nd, 2010 9:23 AM

Yeah you could trade your 4th gen Pokemon over...
but it's only one at a time =\
and possibly not until after the first time you see the Credits roll XD

PaxAmericana July 22nd, 2010 9:28 AM

maybe we can trade 6 over at a time, kinda like the pal park

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 22nd, 2010 5:35 PM

I wish that it would be like gen I and II...

caelyn July 23rd, 2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5994558)
I wish that it would be like gen I and II...

Me too. It would make trading and making my dream team much easier...

polkop July 23rd, 2010 10:44 AM

I think that will probably do like the 1st and 2nd generation.
It will be a time machine and to enter in it, you must not have anything that come from the new generation.

MegaKuriboh July 23rd, 2010 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5994558)
I wish that it would be like gen I and II...

Quote:

Originally Posted by polkop (Post 5996078)
I think that will probably do like the 1st and 2nd generation.
It will be a time machine and to enter in it, you must not have anything that come from the new generation.

This.

That would be awesome and plus most of my friends won't get the game in like 100 years so I could still battle them too (with awesome graphics!!)

lx_theo July 23rd, 2010 11:37 AM

If they did it for GBA games to DS games, then why wouldn't they do it from DS to DS games?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 23rd, 2010 11:49 AM

They confirmed that you can transfer pokemon from gen 4 to gen 5 but we don't know whether they will have any more interactions and that's what we are speculating about theo :)

[email protected]! July 23rd, 2010 11:56 AM

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this already, but there was that tidbit of info about IR trades. (Infra Red trades) Very quick, very efficient, trading entire boxes over to another game. Since HG and SS are the only games with IR recievers, it's possible that you'll be able to trade from ONLY those games. But, i could be wrong, I just think there would be no way to TRADE your pokemon over since universal paradoxes ensue when 2nd gen are put in 1st gen, 3rd to 2nd, 4th to 3rd, etc.

Pal Park anyone?

MegaKuriboh July 23rd, 2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by [email protected]! (Post 5996240)
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this already, but there was that tidbit of info about IR trades. (Infra Red trades) Very quick, very efficient, trading entire boxes over to another game. Since HG and SS are the only games with IR recievers, it's possible that you'll be able to trade from ONLY those games. But, i could be wrong, I just think there would be no way to TRADE your pokemon over since universal paradoxes ensue when 2nd gen are put in 1st gen, 3rd to 2nd, 4th to 3rd, etc.

Pal Park anyone?

I'm sorry but what are Infra Red trades?

lx_theo July 23rd, 2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 5996226)
They confirmed that you can transfer pokemon from gen 4 to gen 5 but we don't know whether they will have any more interactions and that's what we are speculating about theo :)

Ah, skimming has not been my friend today.

So trading is good. They've made a bit of an effort to make it clear about the distance Isshu is from the rest. Seems like they want to keep this to a minimum to me.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 24th, 2010 1:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Haowakeorden (Post 5999495)
Due to the HG/SS game cards having an infrared transmitter/receiver that they use to communicate with the PokéWalker, a method of transferring/trading with the help of that might be possible.

I thought about the Infrared in HGSS when I heard these games had Infrared...

MegaKuriboh July 24th, 2010 1:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Haowakeorden (Post 5999495)
Due to the HG/SS game cards having an infrared transmitter/receiver that they use to communicate with the PokéWalker, a method of transferring/trading with the help of that might be possible.

Thank You!

That's awesome but it means that it probablly you canonly trade with HG/SS and not D/P/PT (not a prob to me I keep all my good Pokemon on my HG) but definatly a problem to people who don't have HGSS

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 24th, 2010 1:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokemon Trainer Kevin (Post 5999551)


Thank You!

That's awesome but it means that it probablly you canonly trade with HG/SS and not D/P/PT (not a prob to me I keep all my good Pokemon on my HG) but definatly a problem to people who don't have HGSS

Well maybe they have two methods...

Kazbat028 July 24th, 2010 1:57 PM

Unless Black and White contain all of the Hoenn, Johto, Kanto, and Sinnoh pokemon (Which I doubt highly) you'll need to be able to trade between HG/SS at least. Potentially, you can trade through GEN 4 DS games. That way, you can Pal Park from R/S/E and then to B/W from HG/SS.

Spinor July 24th, 2010 9:12 PM

If there's one thing for certain, it'd be the game programmers plan much far ahead than we think. For sure there will be at least a transfer kind of interaction.

I guess something like the Time Machine can be implemented. Like a Long Distance Trade System, but New Pokemon and New Moves cannot be transfered because of Alien and Environmental dangers to Sinnoh and Jotho. That's probably the most reasonable without breaking Wall 4 like TM in GSC.

Ninja Caterpie July 24th, 2010 9:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Haowakeorden (Post 5994544)
Short of a mechanics overhaul to the extent of what happened with Generation III, I would prefer trading capabilities, not just transferring capabilities. I didn't think it made sense for Pal Park to be one-way, but if anyone could clarify the game mechanic that prevented trading between Generation III and IV games...

Change of console; incompatibility of the trading system.

alextreme July 25th, 2010 6:22 PM

My point is that is is rather probable that you trade from gen V to IV but of course only gen IV pokemon and moves. Because they use the same systems.But what other intercactions do you think of?

Weavile05 July 25th, 2010 9:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haowakeorden (Post 5994544)
Short of a mechanics overhaul to the extent of what happened with Generation III, I would prefer trading capabilities, not just transferring capabilities. I didn't think it made sense for Pal Park to be one-way, but if anyone could clarify the game mechanic that prevented trading between Generation III and IV games...

The new moves and abilities introduced in Gen 4 that weren't in Gen 3. If a pokemon were to learn a move that didn't exist in Gen 3 while it was on Gen 4, what would it be if it were to go back?

Red1530 July 26th, 2010 6:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Haowakeorden (Post 6007096)
If the console changed, how come the games could still interact? Why specifically was only III to IV possible? I'd actually like to know, if you're aware of the mechanics.


Think about this: How were Generations I and II able to trade with each other, even though many new Pokémon moves appeared in Generation II?

The first two versions of the DS had a slot for GBA games. In order to transfer from Generation II to Generation IV you had to have the Third Generation game in the GBA slot and select the transfer option from the main menu in the Fourth Generation game. This is a one-way transfer.

In order to trade between Generation I and Generation II, the Generation II game had to unlock the time capsule. In order to use the Time Capsule the trainer's team could not contain Generation II Pokémon, eggs, and First Generation Pokémon that knew a Second Generation moves. The reason that the first two generations could trade so freely is that the hardware was similar and the data structure for the Pokémon were similar.

Red1530 July 26th, 2010 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Haowakeorden (Post 6007206)
But why was it specifically only one-way? Why was transferring back not an option?


The data structure between Generation III and IV was similar as well, and obviously the hardware was similar or else transfers wouldn't even be possible.

These two pages show the difference between the Generation III and Generation IV structure. Also the GBA slot only supported single-player functions only.


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