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diamondmutt1111 September 1st, 2010 8:21 PM

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Originally Posted by solarowl (Post 6121824)
umm i think he means that team plasma will try to reign with technology in white and natural power in black...

oooooooo sorry about that...I must have read it wrong

...that isn't actually that bad of an idea.

considering that Ruby/Sapphire was similiar. kinda like a "teaser" for the remakes of Ruby/Sapphire. i guess...idk

anyways, team plasma should DEFINITLY use Koromori as the "zubat".

what i'm saying is Koromori is Zubat's replacement. Zubat (Golbat and Crobat) were used by EVERY TEAM before Gen. 5.

PlatinumDude September 1st, 2010 9:57 PM

When "Team Plasma" first popped into my head, I imagined them as having high tech suits, but I was disappointed when I saw the grunts wearing medieval outfits. So I don't like them in terms of design. But in the screenshots shown, it looks like they're planning something really big, so I might like them a little.

solarowl September 1st, 2010 10:03 PM

yea i was wondering why their name isnt more medieval when theyre outfits are a knights one

Kojak September 1st, 2010 10:07 PM

I think that the name could have used work, but the costumes are quite nice.


Bay September 1st, 2010 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiiro (Post 6120493)

Just a thought, and I don't know if this has been brought up before already, but I guess now is the best chance to bring it out of the basket here.

Do you think it's possible that Team Plasma may just have two different purposes in the games? There definitely seems to be a strong sense that the plot will revolve around naturalization and technology, and I'm going with that. But if you look at Pokémon Black, it's more modernized while if you look at Pokémon White, it is more forested.

My point, what if Team Plasma in Black wants to plot for naturalization while Team Plasma in White wants to reign over Isshu with advanced technology. This would also make sense on exactly why Reshiram is in Black (the modernized game) and why Zekrom is in White (the more natural game). Reshiram is signified by the ancient flame, and Zekrom is signified by modern day electricity. As for N, he could be there supporting whatever Team Plasma has in store and is the key to awakening each game's respective mascot with the given crown. I don't know about anyone else, but this makes a lot of sense if it were to run this way given the facts and speculation we have currently.

Plus, it wouldn't be the first time that the game's differentiate in plot - Team Magma in Ruby wanted to dry up the oceans, while Team Aqua in Sapphire wanted to cover the region in water.

@ Kaori:
Yes, I definitely love that logo and the way it's introduced before battle. It just screams epic to me :3

I remember there has been vague mentions here of maybe Team Plasma having different roles in the games, though not explained how the different roles will be compared to Team Magma and Team Aqua in the third gen games. But yeah like everyone else I would love it if that happens.

As for the logo , as I watched it featured in the video I'm all "Yesssss!" because that's one awesome logo. XD

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 2nd, 2010 8:02 AM

If team Plasma does really have two plans in the both versions like in RS, then I think the third version would be like a dream I had...where there was one team that split...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 2nd, 2010 8:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 6122770)
Perhaps I was being a tad bit too analytical before when I stated that the whole nature vs technology thing wasn't going to be present in the game because both fire and lightning both exist as natural elements, but it could also be present in the game for other reasons besides that(which is more of what I'm hoping for, since...it wouldn't make a lot of sense to me if the games were nature vs nurture for the former reason, but I guess I'll deal with it).

What I hope for is that this team would actually succeed in their plan, but have it backfire, just as Team Magma/Aqua succeeded theirs(Team Galactic was really close, but the power of the legendaries might've proven too much and Giratina pretty much destroyed Cyrus' plans). This would actually be really interesting to experience again as you try to restore the balance and everything back to normal.

Actually I think they might actually succeed as they show Rashiram Awaken, and Zekrom as well in the cutsceens :D!

Sora's Nobody September 2nd, 2010 8:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 6122770)
Perhaps I was being a tad bit too analytical before when I stated that the whole nature vs technology thing wasn't going to be present in the game because both fire and lightning both exist as natural elements, but it could also be present in the game for other reasons besides that(which is more of what I'm hoping for, since...it wouldn't make a lot of sense to me if the games were nature vs nurture for the former reason, but I guess I'll deal with it).

What I hope for is that this team would actually succeed in their plan, but have it backfire, just as Team Magma/Aqua succeeded theirs(Team Galactic was really close, but the power of the legendaries might've proven too much and Giratina pretty much destroyed Cyrus' plans). This would actually be really interesting to experience again as you try to restore the balance and everything back to normal.

Yeah i would really love for them to instead of being stopped before succeeding, that they be stopped while succeeded. That would really give the story a boost, I mean you could actually see the changes in the scenery changing according to whatever their plans are.

pokewalker September 2nd, 2010 9:10 AM

i would love if you'd have a battle before reshiram/zekrom, then if you lose their plans succeed, if you'd win they fail. and if you'd lose you could battle them later after the elite4.

Sora's Nobody September 2nd, 2010 9:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pokewalker (Post 6122859)
i would love if you'd have a battle before reshiram/zekrom, then if you lose their plans succeed, if you'd win they fail. and if you'd lose you could battle them later after the elite4.

Somehting like that might work. Rumors WERE around that the story was more choice based.

Ho-Oh September 3rd, 2010 5:31 AM

I think they'll actually succeed and you'll need the help of the two main in-game character friends to be able to fix up everything. Like you'll go on errands for people to help fix certain cities, thennn during that time, your Pokemon level up, ready to face and beat Plasma once more and reclaim Isshu from them. Then, take on the e4. :)

Sora's Nobody September 3rd, 2010 5:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6125179)
I think they'll actually succeed and you'll need the help of the two main in-game character friends to be able to fix up everything. Like you'll go on errands for people to help fix certain cities, thennn during that time, your Pokemon level up, ready to face and beat Plasma once more and reclaim Isshu from them. Then, take on the e4. :)

Oh yeah, good idea,(kinda what i also suggested) so instead of beating them right away, they succeed and then you have to clean up afetr them.

pokewalker September 3rd, 2010 5:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6125179)
I think they'll actually succeed and you'll need the help of the two main in-game character friends to be able to fix up everything. Like you'll go on errands for people to help fix certain cities, thennn during that time, your Pokemon level up, ready to face and beat Plasma once more and reclaim Isshu from them. Then, take on the e4. :)

actually a good idea. but mine is still the best.

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Originally Posted by pokewalker (Post 6122859)
i would love if you'd have a battle before reshiram/zekrom, then if you lose their plans succeed, if you'd win they fail. and if you'd lose you could battle them later after the elite4.


Ho-Oh September 3rd, 2010 5:39 AM

Mine is more in-depth!

Either way, Plasma is going to be the cause of major changes in Isshu - on a larger scale than R/S, imo, anyway. Just think what Electricity and Fire are capable of...

... Soooo excited. XD;

But yeah, I guess with Plasma it'll lead up to some eventual conflict between you and them, I... just hope it isn't just because of Reshiram/Zekrom and you actually have motivation to do so.

The Red Chain September 3rd, 2010 10:00 AM

Maybe Team Plasma are actually the cult on Zekrom's side? The side for technology, and N is the side for the world's old ways? N's plan was to free all Pokemon from their Pokeballs, and have Pokemon and humans be two separate non-coexisting worlds anyway. So it does kind of make sense to me, and explains Team Plasma's name.

But it still doesn't explain why their clothing and even their logo are so.. medieval. D:


Sora's Nobody September 3rd, 2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Red Chain (Post 6125662)

Maybe Team Plasma are actually the cult on Zekrom's side? The side for technology, and N is the side for the world's old ways? N's plan was to free all Pokemon from their Pokeballs, and have Pokemon and humans be two separate non-coexisting worlds anyway. So it does kind of make sense to me, and explains Team Plasma's name.

But it still doesn't explain why their clothing and even their logo are so.. medieval. D:


Wow, that is an awesome theorie, so your thinking that team plasma and N are agains each other?

The Red Chain September 3rd, 2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 6125669)
Wow, that is an awesome theorie, so your thinking that team plasma and N are agains each other?

Something along those lines.. Maybe N tries to convince you to be on his side.
As usual your character will oppose everyone and not take a side, just how they didn't with Team Aqua and Team Magma other teams.
Evil RSE, gtfo B&W. >O

The fact you won't take his side will make N initiate battles with you. At least that's what I think. Strange for someone so against Pokemon being used for battle to challenge you to one right? XD


OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 3rd, 2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Red Chain (Post 6125698)

Something along those lines.. Maybe N tries to convince you to be on his side.
As usual your character will oppose everyone and not take a side, just how they didn't with Team Aqua and Team Magma other teams.
Evil RSE, gtfo B&W. >O

The fact you won't take his side will make N initiate battles with you. At least that's what I think. Strange for someone so against Pokemon being used for battle to challenge you to one right? XD


I think that N just battles you to test out your strength to see if you can be a worthy piece in his plan :)

pokewalker September 3rd, 2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6125710)

I think that N just battles you to test out your strength to see if you can be a worthy piece in his plan :)

and if you win from him he's begging you every time he'll see you to join his team. and you can say yes/no. would be cool it that's gonna happen xD

FrostPheonix September 3rd, 2010 10:22 AM

?!?!
For me, it seems the only got worse since the 3rd gen R/S/E games.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 3rd, 2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pokewalker (Post 6125715)
and if you win from him he's begging you every time he'll see you to join his team. and you can say yes/no. would be cool it that's gonna happen xD

Yeah I see him chasing you around, asking you to join and battles you to join him if he wins from the second battle on :)

pokewalker September 3rd, 2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6125724)

Yeah I see him chasing you around, asking you to join and battles you to join him if he wins from the second battle on :)

i cant wait to see what pokemon he has in his team :) i hope he's better than normal team grunts, with their zubat etc. (if koromori really is zubat's clone, that might be the most-used pokemon in team plasma xD)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 3rd, 2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pokewalker (Post 6125732)
i cant wait to see what pokemon he has in his team :) i hope he's better than normal team grunts, with their zubat etc. (if koromori really is zubat's clone, that might be the most-used pokemon in team plasma xD)

Yeah I hope he has as diverse a team as our rivals :)

Sora's Nobody September 3rd, 2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6125809)

Yeah I hope he has as diverse a team as our rivals :)

Yeah i know what you mean. When fighting the grunts in d/p fx. it was kinda fun actually... it was like... hmm. Will he send out a zubat or a stunky...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 3rd, 2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sora's Nobody (Post 6125826)
Yeah i know what you mean. When fighting the grunts in d/p fx. it was kinda fun actually... it was like... hmm. Will he send out a zubat or a stunky...

I was surprised when I battled one with a Bronzong 0_0 as I had been battling only skunky's so I hope that the grunts and N diversify more than Team Galac did :)


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