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Planetes. July 31st, 2010 10:50 AM

Aloe
 
Okay, well in the new promotion video for bw on pokebeach there is a trainer named Aloe, unlike most trainers in the Pokemon games, she is black. Now Pokemon doesn't regularly include characters that are not white or tan, so this is quite odd. She seems to me like a healer, as there are many healers and witch doctors on the continent of africa, the rooms she is in looks like an E4 room instead there are like some sort of glass cases and tile floors. It actually reminds me of a champion's room. Watch the video if you haven't already and speculate. What do you think of aloe?

Thingula July 31st, 2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6022321)
Okay, well in the new promotion video for bw on pokebeach there is a trainer named Aloe, unlike most trainers in the Pokemon games, she is black. Now Pokemon doesn't regularly include characters that are not white or tan, so this is quite odd. She seems to me like a healer, as there are many healers and witch doctors on the continent of africa, the rooms she is in looks like an E4 room instead there are like some sort of glass cases and tile floors. It actually reminds me of a champion's room. Watch the video if you haven't already and speculate. What do you think of aloe?

She's black... That's it. I don't see why people are going crazy with excitement about it.

The reason that there weren't any black people in previous Pokémon games is simply because... Well... When was the last time you saw a black person in Japan?

There aren't even that many, if any, white people in the game. They are all Japanese.

JP July 31st, 2010 11:09 AM

Champion would be awesome, I'd love another female champion. Cynthia <3

Though I'm more leaning towards the idea that she's probably one of the early gym leaders.

Bluerang1 July 31st, 2010 11:25 AM

My only question is 8if she's the only one in the whole game. And NPCs... also ,it' be great if she's Champion ^___^ But I'm thinking Gym Leader over Elite 4.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 31st, 2010 11:41 AM

I'm guessing she's a Gym leader...what type...lets see glass box, could she have Psychic...or maybe rock...

Perriechu July 31st, 2010 11:43 AM

I Strongly think she is an E4 because of the room >.< Looks like the champion room for the Hall of Fame, but why would their be a battle :S, I Think she is an E4 or 7/8th Gym Leader

Jaiyke July 31st, 2010 12:44 PM

I'm sure if she was the Champion the Challenge Sequence would be ALOT more intense
like Cynthia's it would probably have a different Camera Angle and things would be all
WHOOSHY like >.> sorry for my third grade Onomatopoeia =DDD it's fun >.>;

Anyway, i really like her =DD and yeah probably an early Gym Leader i'm gonna go ahead
and say she is a Psychic Gym leader too... since there was a rumor stating Psychic Gym would be one of the first

and i know it's just a rumor but some (no a FEW) rumors have come to pass so whatev

sabapple July 31st, 2010 12:52 PM

.... Does she really need her own thread? @[email protected] Skin color doesn't really matter people! -_- People are people! That's it!

But yes, it is kinda exciting to see her! I love her hair ^^; But I think that she's just a gym leader. And I'm guessing that we'll see a few other black NPC's throughout the game,

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 31st, 2010 12:57 PM

Yeah color doesn't really matter, what I care for here is what position she is in...

orange discontent July 31st, 2010 1:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shinx95
.... Does she really need her own thread? @[email protected] Skin color doesn't really matter people! -_- People are people! That's it!

I don't see what's wrong with discussing it. I mean, no one's said anything incriminating. It's just a little curiosity.

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/aroe.jpg

I don't think she's a gym leader (but what else would she be with the mugshot and all?), and if that's an E4 room that's definitely a downgrade from Gen 4. They seem to be in some office. Note the desk behind.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 31st, 2010 1:04 PM

Wait I just looked at her clothing and the desk...could she be a teacher at the pokeschool...

Agent Clank July 31st, 2010 1:14 PM

^Magma,you could be right :)
But I also think she might be a Gym Leader and that her type will be Psychic.
I don't think she will be the Elite 4 Champion though...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 31st, 2010 1:19 PM

Yeah I doubt she is an E4, the room looks way different than past E4 rooms...

Haza July 31st, 2010 1:26 PM

She could be a teacher at a PokeSchool like MRAS said. Her clothing says so...

MegaKuriboh July 31st, 2010 1:27 PM

Yay Black People

This is awesome She reminds me of Michael Jackson

She looks evil to me maybe she might be an admin of Team Plasma?

If she is a Gym Leader (assuming we have Gyms this time (Hopefully)) I'm guessing she will specialize in Psychic Pokemon she reminds me of lucian and Will

and MORE proof the Isshu is based on NYC yay!

Edit: And with MRAS maybe she might be a teacher

Perriechu July 31st, 2010 1:33 PM

Ah... i think Magma's got it right... ;-;
@Pokemon trainer Kevin, that's what i though :/ although i posted her being a Gym leader or E4 but i changed my mind after Mulling it,
But MRAS has got it

Agent Clank July 31st, 2010 1:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokemon Trainer Kevin (Post 6022700)
She looks evil to me maybe she might be an admin of Team Plasma?

Yeah,you could be right also. (I still love Magma's Idea)
Her clothes do look a litte old timey (going along with the Team Plasma's old timey outfits) so she could be a high ranking Team Plasma member.

Perriechu July 31st, 2010 1:37 PM

Actually now that you say that :/ The battle could be taking place in the headquarter's

MegaKuriboh July 31st, 2010 1:39 PM

Why do I keep thinking Michael Jackson!?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 31st, 2010 1:40 PM

The room reminds me of the Devon companies room with the cases and the chair actually so could this battle be taking in Isshu's tech HQ?

Agent Clank July 31st, 2010 1:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonomega (Post 6022738)
Actually now that you say that :/ The battle could be taking place in the headquarter's

Yeah,cause the desk looks like where the head of Team Plasma would be sitting and He got away at the last minute and told Aloe to stall for him,so then the battle unfolds.

Perriechu July 31st, 2010 1:42 PM

Yes, Maybe MRAS was Wrong, Maybe we figured it out :D, but she could be a teacher. she doesn't look evil Enough :/
@Pokemon trainer Kevin, Your the only one who thinks that

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 31st, 2010 1:45 PM

Maybe she's the boss of this region's tech co and she decides to battle you and if you win you get the Gear (that's this gen's device right?)

Umbrella July 31st, 2010 1:47 PM

Finally we have someone Black in the game. I like her hair color. I'm pleased.

Agent Clank July 31st, 2010 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonomega (Post 6022750)
Yes, Maybe MRAS was Wrong, Maybe we figured it out but she could be a teacher. she doesn't look evil Enough :/

Mabey but Magmaruby has a very good idea also.
She doesn't have to look evil mabey she is a serious member that doesn't like to show emotion.

Perriechu July 31st, 2010 1:53 PM

I Still think MRAS is right... But, Gaaahhh, there's to many Idea's >.<
Teacher
Plasma Admin
Tech Boss

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 31st, 2010 2:22 PM

Yeah, also Gym leader is in the list, hey I just remembered, Roxanne was a Gym leader and she dress/ was a teacher also...she could be like her...wonder if she also rock type...

sabapple July 31st, 2010 2:36 PM

Hm... Looking at the video again... The room reminds me of a museum hall or something... ^^; ... Hm... I dunno, that's just the vibe that I'm getting from it... Or some really fancy home.. Oh! Maybe it's like that Pokemon Mansion from D/P.... Except that you battle the wealthy owner! .... Nah, she's probably just a Gym Leader... But then again... Looking at the room, it has flames/lantern-thingys on both sides so it reminds me of a castle... Team Plasma's HQ? ...... Uh, I'm still sticking with her being a Gym Leader, jeez, my stupid long post full of nonsense. XP

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 31st, 2010 2:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shinx95 (Post 6022887)
Hm... Looking at the video again... The room reminds me of a museum hall or something... ^^; ... Hm... I dunno, that's just the vibe that I'm getting from it... Or some really fancy home.. Oh! Maybe it's like that Pokemon Mansion from D/P.... Except that you battle the wealthy owner! .... Nah, she's probably just a Gym Leader... But then again... Looking at the room, it has flames/lantern-thingys on both sides so it reminds me of a castle... Team Plasma's HQ? ...... Uh, I'm still sticking with her being a Gym Leader, jeez, my stupid long post full of nonsense. XP

It also reminds me of a Museum (NYC theorist will use this as proof for their theory if true I bet :P) though the room seems small to me:\

Agent Clank July 31st, 2010 2:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6022929)
It also reminds me of a Museum (NYC theorist will use this as proof for their theory if true I bet :P) though the room seems small to me:\

It does sorta remind me of a Museum too.
but your right the room looks like more of a office then it does a big Musuem.
That also helps my theory of it being a Team Plasma office ;)

Bluerang1 July 31st, 2010 3:09 PM

I like the idea of her being a teacher, she might as well be. Maybe she's the Gym Leader but not at the Gym, we'll have to go and meet her at work. First through the kids she teaches...

myrrh25 July 31st, 2010 3:12 PM

I bet her second name is Vera.

Bluerang1 July 31st, 2010 3:18 PM

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Originally Posted by myrrh25 (Post 6022990)
I bet her second name is Vera.

This! Absolutely this! I was thinking that she may first be called Ms Vera by people then say, "Oh, you can call me Aloe". This will work with the idea of her being a Teacher. Like how people say Mr Xxxxx and Ms/Mrs Xxxxxxxx

Jaiyke July 31st, 2010 3:22 PM

Judging by that name you gave... Bug Type Trainer? Grass Trainer? =DD

WarpstarX July 31st, 2010 3:41 PM

Her name points to being a gym leader (Grass) but the (barely visible) setting just doesn't fit.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 31st, 2010 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaiyke (Post 6023027)
Judging by that name you gave... Bug Type Trainer? Grass Trainer? =DD

Oh yeah I forgot that the trainers names give away their typing :P

MistahDude July 31st, 2010 4:19 PM

I bet Aloe is the Champion and Iris is her daughter. Aloe would follow the tradition of using a Pseudo Dragon in her team (Kibago final form is most likely Ononokusu)

rockman0 July 31st, 2010 4:45 PM

Wasn't Candace dressed like that, with different colors though? And she was also a teacher. So, Aloe could still be a gym leader.

I would love to hear her say "kiai"! ^^

Also, why does she have the little vs. thingamajig if she's just a teacher? Unless all characters get a vs. thingamabob, which I doubt.

GFA July 31st, 2010 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisMims (Post 6022336)
She's black... That's it. I don't see why people are going crazy with excitement about it.

The reason that there weren't any black people in previous Pokémon games is simply because... Well... When was the last time you saw a black person in Japan?

There aren't even that many, if any, white people in the game. They are all Japanese.

I saw 4 when I was their. They lived in Shibuya, and were men.

She's probably Indian is Isshu is in suppose to be set in Japan though.

orange discontent July 31st, 2010 5:03 PM

This post on serebii forums has uncovered what was hidden behind the versus shots:



What the glass boxes are doing there, I have no idea... I still don't think it's a gym because didn't they change the gym symbol?

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Originally Posted by MistahDude
I bet Aloe is the Champion and Iris is her daughter. Aloe would follow the tradition of using a Pseudo Dragon in her team (Kibago final form is most likely Ononokusu)

Iris is an anime-only character as far as I know. She has and probably won't have anything to do with the games considering that we already have a well-appreciated female PC.

Agent Clank July 31st, 2010 5:19 PM

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Originally Posted by orange discontent (Post 6023386)

Ah now I defenintly don't know what this room is!
but it looks like a Gym and a E4 room at the same time,but the E4 room would not be that plain.
It could still be a Team Plasma office though...mabey...

WarpstarX July 31st, 2010 5:20 PM

Barry was in the games & the anime so you never know.

rockman0 July 31st, 2010 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by orange discontent (Post 6023386)
This post on serebii forums has uncovered what was hidden behind the versus shots:

What the glass boxes are doing there, I have no idea... I still don't think it's a gym because didn't they change the gym symbol?



Iris is an anime-only character as far as I know. She has and probably won't have anything to do with the games considering that we already have a well-appreciated female PC.

They use a similar symbol in the E4. I'm not gonna post the image but the link is below. Maybe she is an E4. I don't know. Guess we'll have to play the game to find out.


http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/43/HGSS_Koga_Room.png

Also, the logo in Lance's room sported similar colors so if the pattern is to be followed, she could be the Champion.

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/f7/HGSS_Champion_Room.png

orange discontent July 31st, 2010 5:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Warpstarx
Barry was in the games & the anime so you never know.

Except that Barry was actually in the games first and made it to the anime. Iris seems to be anime-only at the moment. Watch, they introduce her in the third gen V game.

Dillon_68 July 31st, 2010 7:39 PM

Hmm...Aloe as in aloe vera? Glass boxes possibly showcasing plants? I say she's a grass gym leader.

Planetes. July 31st, 2010 7:42 PM

Champion seems like the most possible position for her, but she looks like E4 to me.
I mean that room seems like a champion room to me, but it got an obvious downgrade. I can say however that SHE WILL NOT BE A PLASMA ADMIN, you can quote me on that.
Thanks to whoever found the revealing screenshots, btw

MistahDude July 31st, 2010 8:07 PM

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Originally Posted by orange discontent (Post 6023386)
This post on serebii forums has uncovered what was hidden behind the versus shots:



What the glass boxes are doing there, I have no idea... I still don't think it's a gym because didn't they change the gym symbol?



Iris is an anime-only character as far as I know. She has and probably won't have anything to do with the games considering that we already have a well-appreciated female PC.

Who says there cant be more supporting characters?

Zet August 1st, 2010 4:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6022694)
She could be a teacher at a PokeSchool like MRAS said. Her clothing says so...

I wear a suit everyday, does that mean I'm a lawyer or some other high paying profession? No it does not.


I hope she's apart of the elite 4.

Eathrock August 1st, 2010 7:08 AM

I hope they include other races as well. Hispanics, Indians, Arabs, Native Americans will really make New York, New York.

Bluerang1 August 1st, 2010 7:50 AM

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/bluerang1/Aloe-Challenge.jpg

Hope this is a better shot. I made it brighter. Same thing really...

Resultz August 1st, 2010 8:00 AM

Its Aroe isnt it?
That room looks like some kind of Museum, not a gym..

Ho-Oh August 1st, 2010 8:11 AM

I hope that's a gym. A ghost gym! :D

I dunno, if that's the elite four... it looks really different and I dislike it. Though looking at it, it has the setup, but... idk it's too empty.

I think what's in the back unlocks something. It sort of looks like a map of Isshu.

giradialkia August 1st, 2010 8:19 AM

Has anyone thought that she might have something to do with Team Plasma?
I mean, since she's in an office-type room, a Leader or E4 Member is doubtable.
I doubt she's a teacher... but that's just me.
Going back to the Plasma speculation, I think there's scope for that. Sure, DPPt didn't have a mugshot for even Cyrus, but look at HGSS- all of the Rocket Executives had their own mugshots. I personally think she's an Admin (or maybe even Leader) of Team Plasma.

(And for those who think I'm making 'Team Plasma' up, no, I read on Serebii that it has been confirmed as the team in this game).

GFA August 1st, 2010 8:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Eathrock (Post 6025058)
I hope they include other races as well. Hispanics, Indians, Arabs, Native Americans will really make New York, New York.

We still dont even know its New York yet. And really how would you differentiate between those, it'd be hard

560cool. August 1st, 2010 8:38 AM

She's ugly ... >3
It seems quite odd to include a black person. I [[[think]]] that it'll be censored and made white for the US version...
I thing GF never made something alike because they were afraid of racism and stuff. /o\

Bluerang1 August 1st, 2010 8:46 AM

Well the stairs lead somewhere so she might actually be an E4 member...

Planetes. August 1st, 2010 9:43 AM

she's got to be E4 but the room is so plain...
I like the idea of stairs instead of doors if she is e4

Agent Clank August 1st, 2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by giradialkia (Post 6025274)
Has anyone thought that she might have something to do with Team Plasma?
I mean, since she's in an office-type room, a Leader or E4 Member is doubtable.
I doubt she's a teacher... but that's just me.
Going back to the Plasma speculation, I think there's scope for that. Sure, DPPt didn't have a mugshot for even Cyrus, but look at HGSS- all of the Rocket Executives had their own mugshots. I personally think she's an Admin (or maybe even Leader) of Team Plasma.

(And for those who think I'm making 'Team Plasma' up, no, I read on Serebii that it has been confirmed as the team in this game).

Yeah,Me and dragonomega have already said that she might be a high ranking Team Plasma member.
I think she is a high ranking member not the leader,because the guy with crown looks like he is going to be the leader.

Weavile05 August 1st, 2010 10:13 AM

She is obviously an Important character, and the only time I've seen the versus thing ever is when fighting a gym leader or E4. Even in HGSS, the admins get a versus screen, but it's vastly different from this one.

Storm_has_formed August 1st, 2010 10:14 AM

Every time i see that name Aloe Vera pops into my head... :laugh:

Rengoku August 1st, 2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 560cool. (Post 6025333)
She's ugly ... >3
It seems quite odd to include a black person. I [[[think]]] that it'll be censored and made white for the US version...
I thing GF never made something alike because they were afraid of racism and stuff. /o\

I didn't know they made Brock white too.

Hmm I don't know but I'd say a Champion with the royalty room.

JP August 1st, 2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 560cool. (Post 6025333)
She's ugly ... >3
It seems quite odd to include a black person. I [[[think]]] that it'll be censored and made white for the US version...
I thing GF never made something alike because they were afraid of racism and stuff. /o\

What? Why would they "censor" her to white? lol Makes no sense.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2010 11:57 AM

The desks have papers on them...maybe she is a rock gym leader, and rocks/fossils might be behind those cases...

Rengoku August 1st, 2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6025857)
The desks have papers on them...maybe she is a rock gym leader, and rocks/fossils might be behind those cases...

Don't tell me.
I had enough of Rock Gym Leaders, so much I hate that 3.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rilence (Post 6025875)
Don't tell me.
I had enough of Rock Gym Leaders, so much I hate that 3.

Well hopefully she isn't the first gym leader then...Well I like Rock I just hope it's later in the game though...

shininglatios217 August 1st, 2010 12:05 PM

From what I know, aloe is a plant, so, if she is a Gym Leader, she could be a Grass Gym Leader.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shininglatios217 (Post 6025893)
From what I know, aloe is a plant, so, if she is a Gym Leader, she could be a Grass Gym Leader.

Maybe there are Plant specimens behind the glass cases then ;) Then that would explain the lack of plants compared to Erika and Gardenia's gyms...

shininglatios217 August 1st, 2010 12:12 PM

Maybe she even studies Botany.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shininglatios217 (Post 6025914)
Maybe she even studies Botany.

Yeah she could, that room could be her study room, and also her gym room...that would explain the papers and the cases in a way...

shininglatios217 August 1st, 2010 12:15 PM

I only hope she's better than Erika (Gardenia always beats me in the first battle because I always choose Piplup).

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by shininglatios217 (Post 6025926)
I only hope she's better than Erika (Gardenia always beats me in the first battle because I always choose Piplup).

Well I defeated her in my first try with my Piplup and Staravia :P.
Yeah Erika was a push over...

GFA August 1st, 2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 560cool. (Post 6025333)
She's ugly ... >3
It seems quite odd to include a black person. I [[[think]]] that it'll be censored and made white for the US version...
I thing GF never made something alike because they were afraid of racism and stuff. /o\

You stupid? Theirs more racial diversity in America then just about any other country. Caucasians (AKA White People) were in the minority of births this year.

shininglatios217 August 1st, 2010 12:26 PM

Barlow wasn't censored and he was a black person.

EDIT: This message was directed to 560cool.

GFA August 1st, 2010 12:45 PM

Granted. But whose Barlow?

shininglatios217 August 1st, 2010 12:47 PM

Barlow is a main character in Pokémon Ranger Shadows of Almia.

GFA August 1st, 2010 12:49 PM

Oh. well, I dont like that series ...

Anyway ...

Aloe hasnt been translated yet, so if she is a Gym Leader, dont take it to mean anything quite yet.

shininglatios217 August 1st, 2010 12:51 PM

In the japanese games they also name the Gym Leaders according to type. Example: Erika's name comes from a japanese word that means pear blossom.

Kirbychu August 1st, 2010 4:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6022321)
Okay, well in the new promotion video for bw on pokebeach there is a trainer named Aloe, unlike most trainers in the Pokemon games, she is black. Now Pokemon doesn't regularly include characters that are not white or tan, so this is quite odd. She seems to me like a healer, as there are many healers and witch doctors on the continent of africa

That was very stereotypical and maybe even a bit racist. :|

Quote:

Originally Posted by 560cool. (Post 6025333)
She's ugly ... >3
It seems quite odd to include a black person. I [[[think]]] that it'll be censored and made white for the US version...
I thing GF never made something alike because they were afraid of racism and stuff. /o\



No offense, but this is just plain stupid. The reason that black people are sometimes censored in dubs of anime is solely because they are usually portrayed in a somewhat offensive manner (IE big lips, pitch black skin, etc.) As you can see, making them lighter doesn't really offend anyone at all. Aloe won't offend anyone except white prejudices, she's just a normal anime-styled character, with a darker skin tone. Usually all five of the black people in Japanese media look exactly the same.


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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 6024603)
We have Aloe, we have the football player, we have Iris in the anime…

I'm starting to see a pattern here. Still, a teal afro seems like a silly colour for her hair, but it's interesting to see different skin colours nonetheless.

They have darker skin, so what?

This might actually be more powerful than a lot of you may think. Showing people with different skin tones is a great thing. Pokemon is insanely popular with children worldwide, and this has potential to build tolerance amongst many of them, especially with the age group that doesn't even notice "races". It's wonderful that Game Freak is making an attempt not to exclude people of different skin tones, without making them seem like "token" characters. With Pokemon being as popular as it is, this could possibly make black people become more common in anime, manga, and video games. There's a new generation of media creators coming up in Japan, and many of them are growing up with Pokemon.

And no one forget Barlow.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:dxwG1yaTRm8QNM:http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/bf/Barlow.jpg&t=1

As for her role in the game, for some reason I don't think she's a gym leader. I like the idea of her being Iris's mother. We do have that rumor that says Iris is based on an in-game character.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2010 4:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 560cool. (Post 6025333)
She's ugly ... >3
It seems quite odd to include a black person. I [[[think]]] that it'll be censored and made white for the US version...
I thing GF never made something alike because they were afraid of racism and stuff. /o\

That's kind of racist of you to say that...
Well they didn't censored Yorichi from Bleach (though this is not related to GF but it still serves my point), so I doubt they will censor her in the US version...

shininglatios217 August 1st, 2010 4:29 PM

And they didn't censor Barret from Final Fantasy VII.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2010 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shininglatios217 (Post 6026781)
And they didn't censor Barret from Final Fantasy VII.

Nor the Guy from Final Fantasy 13...

Planetes. August 1st, 2010 8:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirbychu (Post 6026753)
That was very stereotypical and maybe even a bit racist. :|




No offense, but this is just plain stupid. The reason that black people are sometimes censored in dubs of anime is solely because they are usually portrayed in a somewhat offensive manner (IE big lips, pitch black skin, etc.) As you can see, making them lighter doesn't really offend anyone at all. Aloe won't offend anyone except white prejudices, she's just a normal anime-styled character, with a darker skin tone. Usually all five of the black people in Japanese media look exactly the same.


They have darker skin, so what?

This might actually be more powerful than a lot of you may think. Showing people with different skin tones is a great thing. Pokemon is insanely popular with children worldwide, and this has potential to build tolerance amongst many of them, especially with the age group that doesn't even notice "races". It's wonderful that Game Freak is making an attempt not to exclude people of different skin tones, without making them seem like "token" characters. With Pokemon being as popular as it is, this could possibly make black people become more common in anime, manga, and video games. There's a new generation of media creators coming up in Japan, and many of them are growing up with Pokemon.

And no one forget Barlow.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:dxwG1yaTRm8QNM:http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/bf/Barlow.jpg&t=1

As for her role in the game, for some reason I don't think she's a gym leader. I like the idea of her being Iris's mother. We do have that rumor that says Iris is based on an in-game character.


okay, I have nothing against black people, so don't act like I do, and I was making a point that aloe is a healing plant found on the continent of africa, and so are healers, I'm not saying all black people are from africa, if you actually knew anything about history or culture you would understand. I'm all for nintendo adding mixed races to Pokemon Games, it definetley adds a more friendly feel.

Haza August 1st, 2010 8:33 PM

There is nothing offensive about her... if they dubbed her, then that would be racist :P

Kirbychu August 1st, 2010 8:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AceDragonite (Post 6027454)
okay, I have nothing against black people, so don't act like I do, and I was making a point that aloe is a healing plant found on the continent of africa, and so are healers, I'm not saying all black people are from africa, if you actually knew anything about history or culture you would understand. I'm all for nintendo adding mixed races to Pokemon Games, it definetley adds a more friendly feel.

I'm sure you don't have anything against black people, but saying that the first black trainer in a real Pokemon game is a witch doctor from Africa when we hardly know anything about her is kind of strange. :|

Not that it really matters, but I've been studying African cultures recently, you were pretty quick to make that assumption. :/

Haza August 1st, 2010 8:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirbychu (Post 6027525)
I'm sure you don't have anything against black people, but saying that the first black trainer in a real Pokemon game is a witch doctor from Africa when we hardly know anything about her is kind of strange. :|

Not that it really matters, but I've been studying African cultures recently, you were pretty quick to make that assumption. :/

Lmao, especially when she looks more like a teacher or instructor than a damn witch doctor...

shininglatios217 August 1st, 2010 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 6027547)


Lmao, especially when she looks more like a teacher or instructor than a damn witch doctor...

Maybe that gives my "Aloe is a botanist" theory more credibility.

Dialga812 August 1st, 2010 8:54 PM

well i think she's a teacher too..coz the room does look like a classroom and her clothes looks kinda formal and her hand gestures...it looks like that shes teaching or something x]

Haza August 1st, 2010 8:59 PM

There has been a PokeSchool in EVERY region so far (except maybe Johto... I don't remember it) so maybe this time instead of battling the students and answering easy mechanic questions we will get to battle the instructor, and Aloe is her.

Bluerang1 August 2nd, 2010 2:14 AM

She gives me and Ororo Munroe vibe. Maybe that's who they based her on. So definitely teacher. If she's a Flying or Psychic type Gym Leader, it'll definitely be Storm they based are on.

MistahDude August 2nd, 2010 2:18 AM

I dont think they censored Brock and all of his siblings either

Volroc August 2nd, 2010 2:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 6022366)
Champion would be awesome, I'd love another female champion. Cynthia <3

Though I'm more leaning towards the idea that she's probably one of the early gym leaders.

im gonna go with this, from her name youd think shes a grass trainer, but she kinda looks like shes dressed for Dark Types... maybe a dark gym finally ;)

Spherical Ice August 2nd, 2010 3:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 6025183)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/bluerang1/Aloe-Challenge.jpg

Hope this is a better shot. I made it brighter. Same thing really...

That looks like a stage behind her. Perhaps she's got some relation to the Pokémon Musical? She looks like a person who'd be interested in the arts (look at her clothes, hair, etc.).

Demonic Puppeteer August 2nd, 2010 5:50 AM

Brock had a darker tone in the anime, but If you look at his skin-color in FR/LG and HG/SS, you will find out he's never been dark to begin with. Well, the older games might've given the feeling he would be dark.

Anyway, I don't think she will be censored. There is no reason for it. She has none of the stereotypical signs of being dark skinned. No big lips, okay, she has an sort of afro, but I think she resembles more of an average '70's disco-dancer, who happened to be black.

GFA August 2nd, 2010 5:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonic Puppeteer (Post 6028298)
Anyway, I don't think she will be censored. There is no reason for it. She has none of the stereotypical signs of being dark skinned. No big lips, okay, she has an sort of afro, but I think she resembles more of an average '70's disco-dancer, who happened to be black.

Is called blackface, and your right.

WarpstarX August 2nd, 2010 6:24 AM

Yeah every time I see black person with blackface IN A CURRENT ANIME
ex: http://housemanga.over-blog.com/article-26491186.html I don't mind THAT much but it's still kinda like a slap in the face. (my reaction every time I see a character drawn like this) Ah damn it... -_-U

GFA August 2nd, 2010 6:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WarpstarX (Post 6028375)
Yeah every time I see black person with blackface IN A CURRENT ANIME
ex: http://housemanga.over-blog.com/article-26491186.html I don't mind THAT much but it's still kinda like a slap in the face. (my reaction every time I see a character drawn like this) Ah damn it... -_-U

Yes well, they toned him down in the American version ...

But yeah, Aloe isnt blackface, so she'll stay the same. As did Dahlia.

Kevin August 2nd, 2010 7:59 AM

She looks like an Elite Four member. Or maybe even champion.

Off-topic: Did anyone notice that the male challenge sprite changed? o.o

Haza August 2nd, 2010 2:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonic Puppeteer (Post 6028298)
Anyway, I don't think she will be censored. There is no reason for it. She has none of the stereotypical signs of being dark skinned. No big lips, okay, she has an sort of afro, but I think she resembles more of an average '70's disco-dancer, who happened to be black.

She is afrocentric... when us African Americans embrace our culture, and wear our hair naturally instead of altering it to fit in with what society generally classifies as beautiful. That is why she is the complete opposite of offensive.

Kirbychu August 2nd, 2010 2:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MG (Post 6029633)
Ummm... Dahlia wasn't of African descent, she was Eastern Asian(Middle East). Just as brock is Southern Asian, also not of African descent.

I disagree, I'd say that she's Hispanic. Dahlia is the name of a Central American flower. She also uses Ludicolo.

But really people, race isn't important. I really like the idea of having an optional tutorial-esque battle with Aloe, since she looks like a teacher at a trainer's school.

orange discontent August 2nd, 2010 2:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MG
Just as brock is Southern Asian, also not of African descent.

Brock is dark-skinned/tan Japanese. He's not black or anything else, tyvm.

I hope Aloe isn't censored. That would seem racist. People would kick and shout and no one would look good.


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