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Aloe
Okay, well in the new promotion video for bw on pokebeach there is a trainer named Aloe, unlike most trainers in the Pokemon games, she is black. Now Pokemon doesn't regularly include characters that are not white or tan, so this is quite odd. She seems to me like a healer, as there are many healers and witch doctors on the continent of africa, the rooms she is in looks like an E4 room instead there are like some sort of glass cases and tile floors. It actually reminds me of a champion's room. Watch the video if you haven't already and speculate. What do you think of aloe?
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The reason that there weren't any black people in previous Pokémon games is simply because... Well... When was the last time you saw a black person in Japan? There aren't even that many, if any, white people in the game. They are all Japanese. |
Champion would be awesome, I'd love another female champion. Cynthia <3
Though I'm more leaning towards the idea that she's probably one of the early gym leaders. |
My only question is 8if she's the only one in the whole game. And NPCs... also ,it' be great if she's Champion ^___^ But I'm thinking Gym Leader over Elite 4.
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I'm guessing she's a Gym leader...what type...lets see glass box, could she have Psychic...or maybe rock...
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I Strongly think she is an E4 because of the room >.< Looks like the champion room for the Hall of Fame, but why would their be a battle :S, I Think she is an E4 or 7/8th Gym Leader
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I'm sure if she was the Champion the Challenge Sequence would be ALOT more intense
like Cynthia's it would probably have a different Camera Angle and things would be all WHOOSHY like >.> sorry for my third grade Onomatopoeia =DDD it's fun >.>; Anyway, i really like her =DD and yeah probably an early Gym Leader i'm gonna go ahead and say she is a Psychic Gym leader too... since there was a rumor stating Psychic Gym would be one of the first and i know it's just a rumor but some (no a FEW) rumors have come to pass so whatev |
.... Does she really need her own thread? @[email protected] Skin color doesn't really matter people! -_- People are people! That's it!
But yes, it is kinda exciting to see her! I love her hair ^^; But I think that she's just a gym leader. And I'm guessing that we'll see a few other black NPC's throughout the game, |
Yeah color doesn't really matter, what I care for here is what position she is in...
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http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/aroe.jpg I don't think she's a gym leader (but what else would she be with the mugshot and all?), and if that's an E4 room that's definitely a downgrade from Gen 4. They seem to be in some office. Note the desk behind. |
Wait I just looked at her clothing and the desk...could she be a teacher at the pokeschool...
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^Magma,you could be right :)
But I also think she might be a Gym Leader and that her type will be Psychic. I don't think she will be the Elite 4 Champion though... |
Yeah I doubt she is an E4, the room looks way different than past E4 rooms...
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She could be a teacher at a PokeSchool like MRAS said. Her clothing says so...
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Yay Black People
This is awesome She reminds me of Michael Jackson She looks evil to me maybe she might be an admin of Team Plasma? If she is a Gym Leader (assuming we have Gyms this time (Hopefully)) I'm guessing she will specialize in Psychic Pokemon she reminds me of lucian and Will and MORE proof the Isshu is based on NYC yay! Edit: And with MRAS maybe she might be a teacher |
Ah... i think Magma's got it right... ;-;
@Pokemon trainer Kevin, that's what i though :/ although i posted her being a Gym leader or E4 but i changed my mind after Mulling it, But MRAS has got it |
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Her clothes do look a litte old timey (going along with the Team Plasma's old timey outfits) so she could be a high ranking Team Plasma member. |
Actually now that you say that :/ The battle could be taking place in the headquarter's
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Why do I keep thinking Michael Jackson!?
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The room reminds me of the Devon companies room with the cases and the chair actually so could this battle be taking in Isshu's tech HQ?
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Yes, Maybe MRAS was Wrong, Maybe we figured it out :D, but she could be a teacher. she doesn't look evil Enough :/
@Pokemon trainer Kevin, Your the only one who thinks that |
Maybe she's the boss of this region's tech co and she decides to battle you and if you win you get the Gear (that's this gen's device right?)
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Finally we have someone Black in the game. I like her hair color. I'm pleased.
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She doesn't have to look evil mabey she is a serious member that doesn't like to show emotion. |
I Still think MRAS is right... But, Gaaahhh, there's to many Idea's >.<
Teacher Plasma Admin Tech Boss |
Yeah, also Gym leader is in the list, hey I just remembered, Roxanne was a Gym leader and she dress/ was a teacher also...she could be like her...wonder if she also rock type...
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Hm... Looking at the video again... The room reminds me of a museum hall or something... ^^; ... Hm... I dunno, that's just the vibe that I'm getting from it... Or some really fancy home.. Oh! Maybe it's like that Pokemon Mansion from D/P.... Except that you battle the wealthy owner! .... Nah, she's probably just a Gym Leader... But then again... Looking at the room, it has flames/lantern-thingys on both sides so it reminds me of a castle... Team Plasma's HQ? ...... Uh, I'm still sticking with her being a Gym Leader, jeez, my stupid long post full of nonsense. XP
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but your right the room looks like more of a office then it does a big Musuem. That also helps my theory of it being a Team Plasma office ;) |
I like the idea of her being a teacher, she might as well be. Maybe she's the Gym Leader but not at the Gym, we'll have to go and meet her at work. First through the kids she teaches...
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I bet her second name is Vera.
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Judging by that name you gave... Bug Type Trainer? Grass Trainer? =DD
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Her name points to being a gym leader (Grass) but the (barely visible) setting just doesn't fit.
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I bet Aloe is the Champion and Iris is her daughter. Aloe would follow the tradition of using a Pseudo Dragon in her team (Kibago final form is most likely Ononokusu)
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Wasn't Candace dressed like that, with different colors though? And she was also a teacher. So, Aloe could still be a gym leader.
I would love to hear her say "kiai"! ^^ Also, why does she have the little vs. thingamajig if she's just a teacher? Unless all characters get a vs. thingamabob, which I doubt. |
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She's probably Indian is Isshu is in suppose to be set in Japan though. |
This post on serebii forums has uncovered what was hidden behind the versus shots:
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What the glass boxes are doing there, I have no idea... I still don't think it's a gym because didn't they change the gym symbol? Quote:
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but it looks like a Gym and a E4 room at the same time,but the E4 room would not be that plain. It could still be a Team Plasma office though...mabey... |
Barry was in the games & the anime so you never know.
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http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/43/HGSS_Koga_Room.png Also, the logo in Lance's room sported similar colors so if the pattern is to be followed, she could be the Champion. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/f7/HGSS_Champion_Room.png |
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Hmm...Aloe as in aloe vera? Glass boxes possibly showcasing plants? I say she's a grass gym leader.
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Champion seems like the most possible position for her, but she looks like E4 to me.
I mean that room seems like a champion room to me, but it got an obvious downgrade. I can say however that SHE WILL NOT BE A PLASMA ADMIN, you can quote me on that. Thanks to whoever found the revealing screenshots, btw |
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I hope she's apart of the elite 4. |
I hope they include other races as well. Hispanics, Indians, Arabs, Native Americans will really make New York, New York.
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http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/bluerang1/Aloe-Challenge.jpg
Hope this is a better shot. I made it brighter. Same thing really... |
Its Aroe isnt it?
That room looks like some kind of Museum, not a gym.. |
I hope that's a gym. A ghost gym! :D
I dunno, if that's the elite four... it looks really different and I dislike it. Though looking at it, it has the setup, but... idk it's too empty. I think what's in the back unlocks something. It sort of looks like a map of Isshu. |
Has anyone thought that she might have something to do with Team Plasma?
I mean, since she's in an office-type room, a Leader or E4 Member is doubtable. I doubt she's a teacher... but that's just me. Going back to the Plasma speculation, I think there's scope for that. Sure, DPPt didn't have a mugshot for even Cyrus, but look at HGSS- all of the Rocket Executives had their own mugshots. I personally think she's an Admin (or maybe even Leader) of Team Plasma. (And for those who think I'm making 'Team Plasma' up, no, I read on Serebii that it has been confirmed as the team in this game). |
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She's ugly ... >3
It seems quite odd to include a black person. I [[[think]]] that it'll be censored and made white for the US version... I thing GF never made something alike because they were afraid of racism and stuff. /o\ |
Well the stairs lead somewhere so she might actually be an E4 member...
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she's got to be E4 but the room is so plain...
I like the idea of stairs instead of doors if she is e4 |
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I think she is a high ranking member not the leader,because the guy with crown looks like he is going to be the leader. |
She is obviously an Important character, and the only time I've seen the versus thing ever is when fighting a gym leader or E4. Even in HGSS, the admins get a versus screen, but it's vastly different from this one.
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Every time i see that name Aloe Vera pops into my head... :laugh:
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Hmm I don't know but I'd say a Champion with the royalty room. |
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The desks have papers on them...maybe she is a rock gym leader, and rocks/fossils might be behind those cases...
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I had enough of Rock Gym Leaders, so much I hate that 3. |
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From what I know, aloe is a plant, so, if she is a Gym Leader, she could be a Grass Gym Leader.
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Maybe she even studies Botany.
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I only hope she's better than Erika (Gardenia always beats me in the first battle because I always choose Piplup).
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Yeah Erika was a push over... |
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Barlow wasn't censored and he was a black person.
EDIT: This message was directed to 560cool. |
Granted. But whose Barlow?
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Barlow is a main character in Pokémon Ranger Shadows of Almia.
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Oh. well, I dont like that series ...
Anyway ... Aloe hasnt been translated yet, so if she is a Gym Leader, dont take it to mean anything quite yet. |
In the japanese games they also name the Gym Leaders according to type. Example: Erika's name comes from a japanese word that means pear blossom.
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No offense, but this is just plain stupid. The reason that black people are sometimes censored in dubs of anime is solely because they are usually portrayed in a somewhat offensive manner (IE big lips, pitch black skin, etc.) As you can see, making them lighter doesn't really offend anyone at all. Aloe won't offend anyone except white prejudices, she's just a normal anime-styled character, with a darker skin tone. Usually all five of the black people in Japanese media look exactly the same. Quote:
This might actually be more powerful than a lot of you may think. Showing people with different skin tones is a great thing. Pokemon is insanely popular with children worldwide, and this has potential to build tolerance amongst many of them, especially with the age group that doesn't even notice "races". It's wonderful that Game Freak is making an attempt not to exclude people of different skin tones, without making them seem like "token" characters. With Pokemon being as popular as it is, this could possibly make black people become more common in anime, manga, and video games. There's a new generation of media creators coming up in Japan, and many of them are growing up with Pokemon. And no one forget Barlow. http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:dxwG1yaTRm8QNM:http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/bf/Barlow.jpg&t=1 As for her role in the game, for some reason I don't think she's a gym leader. I like the idea of her being Iris's mother. We do have that rumor that says Iris is based on an in-game character. |
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Well they didn't censored Yorichi from Bleach (though this is not related to GF but it still serves my point), so I doubt they will censor her in the US version... |
And they didn't censor Barret from Final Fantasy VII.
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okay, I have nothing against black people, so don't act like I do, and I was making a point that aloe is a healing plant found on the continent of africa, and so are healers, I'm not saying all black people are from africa, if you actually knew anything about history or culture you would understand. I'm all for nintendo adding mixed races to Pokemon Games, it definetley adds a more friendly feel. |
There is nothing offensive about her... if they dubbed her, then that would be racist :P
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Not that it really matters, but I've been studying African cultures recently, you were pretty quick to make that assumption. :/ |
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well i think she's a teacher too..coz the room does look like a classroom and her clothes looks kinda formal and her hand gestures...it looks like that shes teaching or something x] |
There has been a PokeSchool in EVERY region so far (except maybe Johto... I don't remember it) so maybe this time instead of battling the students and answering easy mechanic questions we will get to battle the instructor, and Aloe is her.
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She gives me and Ororo Munroe vibe. Maybe that's who they based her on. So definitely teacher. If she's a Flying or Psychic type Gym Leader, it'll definitely be Storm they based are on.
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I dont think they censored Brock and all of his siblings either
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Brock had a darker tone in the anime, but If you look at his skin-color in FR/LG and HG/SS, you will find out he's never been dark to begin with. Well, the older games might've given the feeling he would be dark.
Anyway, I don't think she will be censored. There is no reason for it. She has none of the stereotypical signs of being dark skinned. No big lips, okay, she has an sort of afro, but I think she resembles more of an average '70's disco-dancer, who happened to be black. |
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Yeah every time I see black person with blackface IN A CURRENT ANIME
ex: http://housemanga.over-blog.com/article-26491186.html I don't mind THAT much but it's still kinda like a slap in the face. (my reaction every time I see a character drawn like this) Ah damn it... -_-U |
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But yeah, Aloe isnt blackface, so she'll stay the same. As did Dahlia. |
She looks like an Elite Four member. Or maybe even champion.
Off-topic: Did anyone notice that the male challenge sprite changed? o.o |
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But really people, race isn't important. I really like the idea of having an optional tutorial-esque battle with Aloe, since she looks like a teacher at a trainer's school. |
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I hope Aloe isn't censored. That would seem racist. People would kick and shout and no one would look good. |
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