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redsaber5859 August 1st, 2010 10:34 AM

Black & White, Pokemon or not?
 
I have seen many changes, and they are disturbing me as it is hardly like the old games, what happened to a 2-d black and white Kanto? Now we have 2.75-D full color, rotating camera, 600 pokemon, and triple battles.

Now what do you say? I know that GAMEFREAK Inc. will do anything to keep customers, but seriously, some things are bad.

Lets take a look at the new features:
http://a.imageshack.us/img821/5459/20100801112229152x296.pngThis is a Serebii.net screenshot, first off, the new pokemon, many say look like digimon or 10-minute sprites. This is also how we felt about Gen IV so it shouldnt concern much.

Isshu's art is interesting, it has no resemblence to the others and it is far away, which furthers that these are hardly Pokemon games

Oh god, the new battle system. TRIPLE BATTLES-surf/EQ/Muddy water/explosion-half of your team gone. for gods sake leave triple battles to fossil fighters. ROTATION BATTLES-Im in competitive battling, and I know that this will be hell on earth.

To make that better-VGC, the japanese will have months experience, while we will have ONE month eperience. No brainer on the finals

The version differences i like, however we have never seen that great of a difference before have we?

The C-Gear is seeming good, but it looks like crap. I mean, why Hexagonal shapes? it seems confusing to me, but i like the idea.

The pokeshifter, in POKEMON why combine whac-a-mole with archery? It was better when you CAUGHT your pokemon not SHOT them

PS. the sprites, they are EXTREMELY pixelated in my opinion, however i like the fact that they move, hopefully its in a manner similar to battle Rev where they also move when hit.

the rest of it you can figure out yourself

~Red

Thingula August 1st, 2010 10:38 AM

I love the idea of these changes as much as I loved all the others. I've played all versions of Pokémon, and am happy with these improvements. :) As I look for a more interesting and complex experience, Game Freak keeps providing it.

Agent Clank August 1st, 2010 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsaber5859 (Post 6025662)
I have seen many changes, and they are disturbing me as it is hardly like the old games, what happened to a 2-d black and white Kanto? Now we have 2.75-D full color, rotating camera, 600 pokemon, and triple battles.

Now what do you say? I know that GAMEFREAK Inc. will do anything to keep customers, but seriously, some things are bad.

Lets take a look at the new features:
http://a.imageshack.us/img821/5459/20100801112229152x296.pngThis is a Serebii.net screenshot, first off, the new pokemon, many say look like digimon or 10-minute sprites. This is also how we felt about Gen IV so it shouldnt concern much.

Isshu's art is interesting, it has no resemblence to the others and it is far away, which furthers that these are hardly Pokemon games

Oh god, the new battle system. TRIPLE BATTLES-surf/EQ/Muddy water/explosion-half of your team gone. for gods sake leave triple battles to fossil fighters. ROTATION BATTLES-Im in competitive battling, and I know that this will be hell on earth.

To make that better-VGC, the japanese will have months experience, while we will have ONE month eperience. No brainer on the finals

The version differences i like, however we have never seen that great of a difference before have we?

The C-Gear is seeming good, but it looks like crap. I mean, why Hexagonal shapes? it seems confusing to me, but i like the idea.

The pokeshifter, in POKEMON why combine whac-a-mole with archery? It was better when you CAUGHT your pokemon not SHOT them

PS. the sprites, they are EXTREMELY pixelated in my opinion, however i like the fact that they move, hopefully its in a manner similar to battle Rev where they also move when hit.

the rest of it you can figure out yourself

~Red

Well I love all the new features.
they are great in my opinion and I can't wait to play and find out what all I can do with them. and you don't actually shoot them you throw Pokeballs at them with a Bow. Its just like catching a normal Pokemon but a little more difficult because they can move and you can miss. I love the idea of Triple Battles also,they seem like they will be fun because I loved and still love Double Battles and Isshu is supposed to look different or the fans would get bored and quit playing the games. sometimes change is good and this time it is,it is good to have something different after awhile.
so I think its a good idea that there putting in new features.

Niño. August 1st, 2010 10:45 AM

I know many people who complain because Pokémon is always the same..

GunSaberSeraph August 1st, 2010 11:11 AM

Its called a sequel. Adding features to make it different from its predecessors is sort of the point.

dieter57 August 1st, 2010 11:18 AM

i like all the new features except triple battles.

Niño. August 1st, 2010 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 6025735)
i like all the new features except triple battles.

I think the triple battles make the game more realistic...

GFA August 1st, 2010 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niño. (Post 6025740)
I think the triple battles make the game more realistic...

I dont, but it adds more strategy, and Im all for that.

Cjdamon042 August 1st, 2010 11:23 AM

Still looks like a Pokemon game to me. Admittedly I was a bit annoyed at the whole triple battles thing, but I'm good with it now. And yeah, Pokemon designs are crazy this time around but I'll get used to them.

The pixelated Pokemon though is due to how the battle screen works. All Pokemon are created at their standard resolution and if you were to rip them from the game, they'd look like they do on current games; normal size. But since the camera moves around in battle, they end up becoming a tad pixelated. Now personally, I think they should have altered either the sprites, the sprite positions or the battle screen to ensure that your Pokemon looked fine when the camera is in it's default position, but only pixelated when the camera shifted position for attacks or whatever. But they haven't, so we'll just have to get used to pixelated Pokemon. Yes it looks untidy, especially with 6 Pokemon on the screen at once, but having watched the videos, I've sort of ignored it since everything looks fast and fantastic.

dieter57 August 1st, 2010 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niño. (Post 6025740)
I think the triple battles make the game more realistic...

how is battling with three pokemon at a time realistic?
please explain

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2010 11:32 AM

I like all the new features and the updated 3D of the Game :). I beleive these Changes were needed to make it different than gen 4 ;)

Niño. August 1st, 2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 6025748)
how is battling with three pokemon at a time realistic?
please explain

...in relation to the manga and anime.

GFA August 1st, 2010 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niño. (Post 6025774)
...in relation to the manga and anime.

Thats not realistic by any dictionary definition, though, it is reminiscent of the manga and anime ...

dieter57 August 1st, 2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niño. (Post 6025774)
...in relation to the manga and anime.

and again, how is either one of those REALISTIC?
do you see kids walking around with with a pokemon and challenging other people in REAL life?
no, i didn't think so.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niño. (Post 6025774)
...in relation to the manga and anime.

Yeah it is in a way a lot to the manga and Anime in that aspect :)

GFA August 1st, 2010 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 6025802)
and again, how is either one of those REALISTIC?
do you see kids walking around with with a pokemon and challenging other people in REAL life?
no, i didn't think so.

Get off his case. He mixed his words up. The manga has been called the true spirit of Pokemon. Meaning that Black and White have gone a step further in making it the best Pokemon can be.

Niño. August 1st, 2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieter57 (Post 6025802)
and again, how is either one of those REALISTIC?
do you see kids walking around with with a pokemon and challenging other people in REAL life?
no, i didn't think so.

Okay, you win. It would be realistic if the anime and manga were real life.

P.D: Sorry for my bad english, I'm spanish.

dieter57 August 1st, 2010 11:52 AM

i'm not on his case, but if it seemed that way sorry.
i'm just saying pokemon becoming realistic to me would be like the new rumored weather changeing, or like you would have to feed your Pokemon actual food.
those kinds of stuff.
not the games becoming more like the manga.

EDIT: didn't know you weren't great at english Nino. sorry

Rengoku August 1st, 2010 11:53 AM

OHPWEASE NOT THE OMFG NEW GEN POKEYMANz LOOK LIKE DIGIMANz AGAIN.

Can I ask you 2 questions? If you can, you win.

1) What SHOULD Pokemon looks like?
2) What SHOULD Digimon looks like?

Was there ever a rule? Answer this, thanks.

Complain king, don't like the new game? Simple, I've said this a time to many, don't buy. No one cares if you're whining about it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2010 12:21 PM

What Rilence said is true, I wish the whining will stop...though maybe they are whining cuz they will buy it anyways :P

redsaber5859 August 1st, 2010 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rilence (Post 6025845)
OHPWEASE NOT THE OMFG NEW GEN POKEYMANz LOOK LIKE DIGIMANz AGAIN.

Can I ask you 2 questions? If you can, you win.

1) What SHOULD Pokemon looks like?
Normal alter-animal cool things
2) What SHOULD Digimon looks like?
Retarted pokemon rip-offs with wings

Was there ever a rule? Answer this, thanks.

Complain king, don't like the new game? Simple, I've said this a time to many, don't buy. No one cares if you're whining about it.

answered your questions, this thread is not for flame wars, it is to point out the differences, and i dont like some of them

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6025952)
What Rilence said is true, I wish the whining will stop...though maybe they are whining cuz they will buy it anyways :P

Yeah XD we will buy them, I do cuz i love the series and I cant live without battling lol, and in september, all battlings going to B&W XD

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2010 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsaber5859 (Post 6025969)
answered your questions, this thread is not for flame wars, it is to point out the differences, and i dont like some of them

Well everyone has an opinion but I don't really see why you don't like them though :/

redsaber5859 August 1st, 2010 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 6025976)

Well everyone has an opinion but I don't really see why you don't like them though :/

well, frankly i dont really like Gen IV, and diamond was my first DS game ever!

BTW how do you set the text so every post is like that?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 1st, 2010 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsaber5859 (Post 6025981)
well, frankly i dont really like Gen IV, and diamond was my first DS game ever!

BTW how do you set the text so every post is like that?

Well this is generation V not IV...
Offtopic: what do you mean?

Alyssachu August 1st, 2010 12:30 PM

I'm honestly not too bothered by it, but then again I am not an avid, die-hard fan of Pokemon gaming. Hah! I like change and updated graphics when new series of games come out. I don't really have a problem with it at all! So long as not EVERY new Pokemon looks like some bad-ass wannabe Digimon. I mean they shoulddd still keep several cute ones in there, right? :P ... And I just enjoy the new graphics. Well... we'll see once I play the game.


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