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Spirit Albarn♫ August 4th, 2010 8:24 AM

Has any one actually beaten a kecleon?
 
I hit one with 3 focus punches and it still killed my level 44 team...

Sydian August 4th, 2010 8:55 AM

I swear they made them super fast in Darkness/Time, haha. I've never beaten one. What I hate is when you pick up an item that's on the edge of this carpet and you accidentally step off, not having time to put the item back. And then if you say you're not gonna pay for it, they call you a thief. You don't even get a chance to put it back. And if you do say you're gonna pay for it, but don't have enough, that makes you a thief as well. I mean...damn, just let me put it back. It was an accident. They're the rudest shopkeepers ever, really.

Spirit Albarn♫ August 4th, 2010 8:57 AM

The Worst Was, i was off the price by 1 poke and it killed everything, i even abondoned my team and ran away but then..BAM, it warps and hits me with scratch -.-, Heck if i didnt need the stuff id walk straight past them, i once got attacked by a wild pokemon while shopping xD

Heart's Soul August 4th, 2010 9:01 AM

I wanted to just steal from them one time. Stole all the items (and a few Huge Apples, too!) and put on my Mobile Scarf. It was beside the wall, those silly Kecleon. Problem- it was on the other side of the floor. That's where the Apples kicked in.

Honestly, I tried to kill them, they're worse than Safer Sephiroth. And only 5 EXP for a random encounter with a lv 99 enemy.

Spirit Albarn♫ August 4th, 2010 9:05 AM

They've got serious issues...

Åzurε August 4th, 2010 3:17 PM

Heh, I recruited one in Sky. Not impossible!

They have insane stats when they're in their 40s (255 in everything!), but it's insane trying to level them up. Whatever you do, don't take one into Destiny Tower (perhaps other Lv.1 dungeons as well). It didn't return to Lv.45 like it was supposed to. Just... Level one. 1 HP, and 1 in each stat. Can't train him worth nothing now. Leveled him up once, all that increased was his HP, by 1. I'm considering cheating just to level him back up to normal.

Morgnarok August 4th, 2010 3:28 PM

There just way to dam overpowered.

Spirit Albarn♫ August 5th, 2010 5:47 AM

They get high on gummis therefore they're epic, i wonder what would happen it i took dialga and stole from them

Heart's Soul August 5th, 2010 8:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit Albarn♫ (Post 6038162)
They get high on gummis therefore they're epic, i wonder what would happen it i took dialga and stole from them

Tested it out with a bunch of characters, even Spiritomb and my uber-wall. They destroyed me.

Spirit Albarn♫ August 5th, 2010 8:12 AM

Damn, Nintendo made them uber in PMD then

Heart's Soul August 5th, 2010 8:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit Albarn♫ (Post 6038595)
Damn, Nintendo made them uber in PMD then

When I recruited one, it was lv. 5 and had horrific stats. Could barely kill it with my lv. 90.

Spirit Albarn♫ August 5th, 2010 1:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heart's Soul (Post 6038610)
When I recruited one, it was lv. 5 and had horrific stats. Could barely kill it with my lv. 90.

They must have some messed up coding then =='

ptrhenry52 August 5th, 2010 9:55 PM

I recruited Kecleon after killing at least 20 of them in two different thieving attempts in the same dungeon.I had Blue rescue team and I'm getting Explorers of time and about the Kecleon,I stole once but the other times I got killed.

shininglatios217 August 5th, 2010 10:22 PM

Even in the normal Pokémon games Kecleon is a pain to defeat.

Planetes. August 6th, 2010 12:29 AM

I think I may have killed one In Blue Rescue Team...anyway I read somewhere that kecleon has a -0.33 chance of recruitment, so even with a friend bow, and certain abilities, the highest recruitment rate it gets 0.01, nigh-on impossible

Noka August 7th, 2010 5:22 AM

In PMD Red, I tried stealing from them once; it turns out that was a bad idea. I was by the stairs, I used a trawl orb to bring all the items on the dungeon floor, including the shop items, to me. Before I managed to get away with my loot, a Kecleon comes speeding along, and I mean speeding, moving at least four or so tiles at a time, and utterly conquers my team.

Long story short: don't mess with Kecleons.

Also, AceDragonite, the recruitment rate for them isn't THAT low, at least if you have the proper stuff, and are using PMD Red/Blue. If you're level 90-100, have the IQ skill Fast Friend, and have a Friend Bow, your recruitment rate goes up to 36%, whereas a Kecleon has a recruitment rate of -33.9%.

So...you still have a small chance of recruitment, 2.1, but it's still bigger then 0.01.

Meadow August 7th, 2010 6:10 AM

I killed a couple, but they could still overpower me, so I usually try to flee.

Eurydice August 7th, 2010 4:33 PM

i have tried to steal from one before. that was a mistake. my team was low and well i had never come across one before so i had no clue of how freakishly strong they are. so now whenever i see one i stay away unless i need something and actually have the money for it.

Weavile05 August 8th, 2010 6:45 PM

I seem to remember trying to steal from one once, can't remember exactly how it went, though. I probably died. I wonder if they purposely did that to scare the crap out of everyone. It would set a good example for kids 'you never get away with stealing'
lol.

Niprop August 9th, 2010 10:11 PM

Only the broken-ness of Porygon-Z can destroy Keckleon. After full Nasty Plot charge, Hyper Beam becomes fatal at level 80, and Discharge becomes fatal at level 100. Those Kecleons hit like a truck though, so make sure you have Oran berries, regardless of level!

Diablerie August 10th, 2010 2:01 AM

I never visit a shop unless I have a Trawl Orb and I'm near the stairs. I use the orb to grab all the items (which triggers the angry Keckleon), quickly gather the items up and get up the stairs before they come. Although one usually seems to be planted like one space outside the room you used the Trawl Orb in, so you have to gather up those items and leave fast - the Kecleon are never far behind.

Dawn August 10th, 2010 5:27 AM

I tried it once. I was maybe in my 40s? They ain't so tough, though, I never did kill them. They never killed me though either.

Except that one time I found a Monster house and a dozen Kecleons were in it. I call foul play. D;

Heart's Soul August 10th, 2010 7:16 AM

Oh! Kecleon Monster House, that's horrible.

Tried out a new tactic, Agility and then Trawl Orb. Significantly Higher Chance of Success.
Wondertomb. Failed.

560cool. August 10th, 2010 7:25 AM

Lol no.

After three Sky Uppercuts from a Lv. 91 Blaziken couldn't bring ONE down (it done like 100 HP Damage ?) I got sent to the Wonder World until my brother helped me. :P

Don't mess with Kecleon ! Or he'll mess with your exploring...

wesker7 August 10th, 2010 9:41 AM

Definitely no. It's impossible to return something, not to mention that even with cheats, (ARDS) it still doesn't work.

dragon0fangz August 10th, 2010 12:39 PM

actually yes. Perish Song + protect always wins.

Seizure02 August 10th, 2010 2:16 PM

I acually have. I used Gengar and hid in the wall and kept hitting it with a whole bunch of attacks. After about 10 minutes, he was defeated.

Spirit Albarn♫ August 11th, 2010 4:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seizure02 (Post 6057160)
I acually have. I used Gengar and hid in the wall and kept hitting it with a whole bunch of attacks. After about 10 minutes, he was defeated.

But if you didnt you'd be screwed :D

Electirizer August 11th, 2010 9:43 PM

They did that and i was like holy crap.

Dark Rukario August 12th, 2010 3:27 AM

I haven't tried to defeat one before - when I want to steal things, I bring a trawl orb and several spurn orbs/warp seeds, then use Agility to max. When I'm by the stairs I use the trawl orb, then by the (likely) chance a Kecleon comes before I have the chance to grab everything, I send them away.

This doesn't always work though - one time it kept getting warped into the next room over and came back way too quickly -.-

.Hoenn August 12th, 2010 4:40 AM

Shedinja walks into a wall with max belly

I killed a swarm of them, BUT NONE JOINED ME! I KILLED A MILLION!

sab August 12th, 2010 5:59 AM

In mystery dungeon blue I could have had one, It asked to join my team and I accidentally hit no... I still haven't gotten another one to ask.

AuraGaurdian August 16th, 2010 3:19 AM

I once thought that I could kill it by hurling iron thorns at it repeatedly and it wouldnt get all crazy and hunt me down.........I was wrong.......
also I did kill one in EOT but 1st I recruited kyogre from botemless sea and made it my leader went to mystifying forest theres a shop there that sells tons of evo items used a trawl orb by the stairs held A+B and waited for 2 secs and he was in front of me used sheer cold IT HITS!!!!!! HAHA TAKE THAT KECKLEON!

Aether★ August 16th, 2010 3:23 AM

No... I didnt... I tried on PMD 3, but I failed, there were too many. ONLY BECAUSE, I thought he had a fire stone, which was a normal throw stone...

Leafbarrett August 16th, 2010 5:20 AM

My strategy (in PMD2&3 at least) is to bring a Pure Seed. Pick up everything, then use the Pure Seed to warp to the stairs. The other option is to spam Foe-Hold & Petrify orbs. I don't care HOW strong you are, those things freeze you in place :D

Spirit Albarn♫ August 16th, 2010 5:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leafbarrett (Post 6076014)
My strategy (in PMD2&3 at least) is to bring a Pure Seed. Pick up everything, then use the Pure Seed to warp to the stairs. The other option is to spam Foe-Hold & Petrify orbs. I don't care HOW strong you are, those things freeze you in place :D

Ill use that xD, Sound intresting

Ankoku Flare August 16th, 2010 7:00 AM

As for myself I've yet to attempt that.

I've had a friend who actually recruited one of those critters in Sky. He said it was absolutely EBIL! It took him hours of slaughtering those things.

vinylscratchp0n3 August 16th, 2010 11:04 AM

I tried the Pure Seed and Foe-Fear orb, but I still lost everything.

Spirit Albarn♫ August 16th, 2010 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wartortle Battalion (Post 6077101)
I tried the Pure Seed and Foe-Fear orb, but I still lost everything.

use the orb before the seed

psychicboy August 16th, 2010 12:22 PM

Lol?
My level 100 Persian (starter was a meowth) owns them with fury swipes.

MightyKirby777 August 16th, 2010 10:50 PM

I have once tried it. I had items that stalls, and the Pokemon I used was lv. 100.
I managed to defeat one of them, but more comes, and gets annoying. I have to admit, it isn't that easy.

Spirit Albarn♫ August 17th, 2010 7:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyKirby777 (Post 6079157)
I have once tried it. I had items that stalls, and the Pokemon I used was lv. 100.
I managed to defeat one of them, but more comes, and gets annoying. I have to admit, it isn't that easy.

I tried that too, i held a warp scarf and kept warping around trying to find the exit, i ran into like 6 of them :O

Mirby August 18th, 2010 11:58 PM

This topic made me lol.

I don't think they're Kecleon, actually. They're like Killcleon or something.

Spirit Albarn♫ August 19th, 2010 6:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirby (Post 6085482)
This topic made me lol.

I don't think they're Kecleon, actually. They're like Killcleon or something.

Pokemon terminators D:,
I can imagine stealing from them, then running into a monster house :O

Mirby August 19th, 2010 9:30 AM

For some reason, I imagined doing that and a bunch more Killcleons appearing... D:

hehe

Enigma August 19th, 2010 1:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit Albarn♫ (Post 6085941)

I can imagine stealing from them, then running into a monster house :O

That happened to me once. Needless to say, I didn't make it out alive. D:


I've beaten one before in PMD Red. I can't remember if another one got me, or if I got to the next floor unharmed. I have stolen from one before, and I used Escape Orb. xD

TokioHumaNeko August 19th, 2010 5:23 PM

....Yes. I have beaten a Keckleon.

That is, when my Ivysaur finally got to use Vine Whip.

Relith August 19th, 2010 8:13 PM

I got my team jacked high on gummis...full of oran berries, and about 8 Reviver Seeds.
I lost the rest of my team, and was running and forgot...they come in bunches...ohh yeaahhhh......

So, I tried to use a sleep seed on the one, and it didn't work.

Short story: I got owned.

Fusionx August 19th, 2010 9:01 PM

me and my friend had a battle. hes kelecon [lvl 50] vs my blessy [lvl 65]

dont know how. but double team really had her confused... >.<

Spirit Albarn♫ August 20th, 2010 1:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfernoRogue (Post 6087190)

That happened to me once. Needless to say, I didn't make it out alive. D:


I've beaten one before in PMD Red. I can't remember if another one got me, or if I got to the next floor unharmed. I have stolen from one before, and I used Escape Orb. xD

I tried that :O
but it said you cant escape and then.....it all went white..BECAUSE I SR'D

Zaroas August 20th, 2010 7:25 AM

I killed one by spamming a Lv.100 Articuno's Blizzard while in a wall using the mobile scarf and having about 5 Huge Apples.
It worked.
Sadly, I could not recruit it because my cousin "accidentally" sold my Friend Bow.

Spirit Albarn♫ August 29th, 2010 8:27 AM

Ouch; At least you killed the monster O.O

Mizogorou August 29th, 2010 8:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit Albarn♫ (Post 6113289)
Ouch; At least you killed the monster O.O

its not too hard when you have sheddy

sologuy369 August 29th, 2010 3:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit Albarn♫ (Post 6035252)
The Worst Was, i was off the price by 1 poke and it killed everything, i even abondoned my team and ran away but then..BAM, it warps and hits me with scratch -.-, Heck if i didnt need the stuff id walk straight past them, i once got attacked by a wild pokemon while shopping xD

Happens to me too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niprop (Post 6055415)
Only the broken-ness of Porygon-Z can destroy Keckleon. After full Nasty Plot charge, Hyper Beam becomes fatal at level 80, and Discharge becomes fatal at level 100. Those Kecleons hit like a truck though, so make sure you have Oran berries, regardless of level!

and lots of reviver seeds!

Also in some games, you put down items to sell, try to walk off but ur partner picks it up. egh.

PlatinumDude August 29th, 2010 7:08 PM

I do remember beating a Kecleon in Blue Rescue Team, but I didn't get it. In my old Explorers of Sky playthrough, I stole from a Kecleon in Shimmer Hill for kicks. I managed to beat one (with a combination of my Lucario's Dark Pulse and Aura Sphere and Swampert's Mud Bomb and Muddy Water), but I got mauled by the Kecleon that were summoned as reinforcements as I was making my way towards the stairs (I got to them before I went to the shop).

solarowl August 29th, 2010 9:07 PM

i tried to steal and beat a few kecleon coming at me but when i found the stair room, it was a monster house! so i got pwned by those weak pokes and those kecleons.

Inferny August 29th, 2010 9:17 PM

My level 70 team beats them pretty easily. It's good to have some sleep seeds/x-eye seeds with you when fighting Kecleons, haha! I've succeeded from stealing in their stalls a couple of times.

I play MD2: EOD Btw

AliceBlaze August 30th, 2010 3:58 AM

I was at lvl100 when I first beat a Kecleon. It got me on low health then I finished it off with flail.

ngik... August 30th, 2010 5:39 AM

i managed to beat 3 kecleons.
i was lucky i could beat them but after that, i ran out of reviver seeds...

HydraFx September 3rd, 2010 5:10 AM

Level 100 team of Mewtwo, Charizard and Electabuzz = Win
But even before I got the Mewtwo, the Kecleons were too much, D=

Gardenia101 September 3rd, 2010 6:00 PM

I did, but just barely.
It was haaaaaaaard

gregory_turner420 September 7th, 2010 9:57 PM

i just recruited one in sky..it was weird. i killed one, one killed me, recruited the third..

infernotheinfernape September 19th, 2010 7:08 AM

I have with a lvl 60 or over darkrai when i was flying on a wall take that kecleons >:D

Sert908 September 19th, 2010 8:35 AM

I've probably beaten one in my old file of Red rescue team

Dahlia411 September 19th, 2010 9:22 AM

When you walk into one of those stores with them in them, take something ans run out, and don't have enough of money, they're extremely strong, I don't even remember beating one!

MarstheCar September 22nd, 2010 6:21 PM

Once, when I was a lv 100 Venusuar by myself on PMD 1. It was extreme, and reached the stairs after killing three of them. (I had no clue what I was doing).

curiousnathan September 23rd, 2010 2:16 AM

I have never defeated those phenomenal pokemon. Seriously the stats on those things are out-of-this-world! I tried once before to defeat one, not to recruit, just to defeat. I recall using jusy my Darkrai I made it attack from in a wall so they couldn't attack me, but I easily lost my hunger even after eating several BIG apples! Plus my PP ran out really quickly actually; quite faster than normal. :\
When I died I was like nooo so close! I was certain I was going to get my revenge on those things.. D:

Blackpaw Stormfeather September 23rd, 2010 12:50 PM

Once, in my time file.. this happened yesterday while our power was out.

I used a trawl orb, killed one, and flew to the staircase! xD

RulerArceus September 23rd, 2010 9:21 PM

I stole a Reviver Seed.
It got mad.
THREE DEATHS LATER..
15 HP Left.
I KILLED IT!YAY!Now to steal some apples...
TWO MORE KECLEON APPEARED!
:O
So in the end,I lost all my Cash.And I had A level 70 Venusaur and Level 65 Pikachu.
Moral:Kecleons are Epic win.A level 1 could beat a Level 50.

123wert50 September 24th, 2010 10:46 AM

Yep. Wasn't "easy" and I really didn't mean to but I guess I'm stuck with it being dead. D:

pokeman rawr September 24th, 2010 11:42 AM

i have
 
I have once with cheats and once without cheats.

When i beat him without cheats it was just lucky....
And with cheats it was realy easy.

But i run from him alot.

TwilightBlade September 24th, 2010 3:40 PM

Yeahh those pesky Kecleon. I have defeated about a dozen in Dungeon Blue, although I had to get out of that chaotic floor because my Defense was low (I don't remember how that happened, but Ancientpower started to take away a huge chunk of health.. Level 100).

Satoshi Ookami September 25th, 2010 12:59 AM

They may be uberpowered but they can be beaten easily if you have the right team =)
I was Lucario lv.100 and was probably in Southeastern Archipelago, stole some items (they were valuable so why not xD) and I had to beat at least 10 Kecleons O_o" That was kinda... crazy xD

Flyboy September 25th, 2010 1:06 AM

My munchlax ate him...
Literally.

Spirit Albarn♫ September 25th, 2010 4:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 6179613)
My munchlax ate him...
Literally.

i literally LOL'd at this

Pichuichu September 27th, 2010 4:09 PM

I Killed ONE! it didnt want to koin cause i was level 96! boom!

Blastin'Tyruntz September 28th, 2010 12:30 AM

their damn strong!!
i tried to kill one with my lvl 99 infernape......
and died

Quirky September 28th, 2010 9:59 AM

Keckleons are the developer's idea of evil. I've never beaten one, but a friends has

Pyrax September 28th, 2010 1:58 PM

I once killed 23 Kecleons in explorers of darkness without dying. :p
Then I woke up. :(

Impo September 30th, 2010 11:21 PM

i managed to kill one ^^

my venasuar and blastiose did and energy ball + hydro pump combo until it died.

They steal there gummi supply and eat them,
they shouldnt be making a profit from eating their wares >.>

Kevin October 1st, 2010 2:01 PM

I never even encountered one in the dungeons yet.. 0-O Though with all these posts I don't want to meet one. xD

XFakerX October 1st, 2010 7:57 PM

I killed 5 in a row with my charizard(level 100) then 3 of them ganged on me and I got cornered

Satoshi Ookami October 1st, 2010 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destiny Demon (Post 6195518)
I never even encountered one in the dungeons yet.. 0-O Though with all these posts I don't want to meet one. xD

You must steal something from his dungeon market =D

vinylscratchp0n3 October 14th, 2010 4:36 PM

I bet the developers of these games are watching us and laughing because of how hard it is to kill one Kecleon.

Spirit Albarn♫ October 15th, 2010 12:40 AM

LOL, i bet they are peeing in their pants rght about now.

Prometheus October 16th, 2010 5:08 AM

There impossible, Me and my brother joked that they were illegal immigrants and Mafia members.

ray423 November 9th, 2010 5:26 PM

I used the item that pulled all loose Items on the floor to me while I was next to the stairs. I picked them all up and ran down the stairs. free Items. yeah!

Mikami November 9th, 2010 9:40 PM

I murdered one, It's fairly easy when your working exclusively with dragon type.

L5Animations November 10th, 2010 11:52 AM

Depends which game you're talking about. In Blue Rescue Team, I destroy Kecleons all the time. In Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky, I can barely take a few steps with twenty Reviver Seeds without getting kicked out of the dungeon. Unless the steps happen to be VERY close, but that luck has only happened to people I know, not myself.

Pikachu fan November 14th, 2010 11:16 PM

Once i acidently stole a metal coat from him and... let's just say i had four one-shot orbs. R.I.P Kecleon, you won't be missed... COZ YOU GOT OWNED!!!

Hooh November 17th, 2010 9:02 PM

Ugh, tons of times. Still can't recruit him. Kecleon is WAYYY more hard to beat in PMD2, He just like, OHKOs you.

miltankRancher November 20th, 2010 11:25 PM

I was forced to steal an Apple and the gummis from the shop. I had no money. I was using my jolteon that time (Red Dungeon) Level 100, and still brought me to red health. I kept using Pin Missiles, and normal attacks, but they still mugged me like crazy. Good thing I found the stairs.


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